in budapest, steve is a pod cast throughout the galico, which can be found on youtube and locals in america. yes, we have martin j. d. as an award winning journalist and commentator, gentleman cross type rules and effects, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it, right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. i don't want to rehash the debate here. i think everybody's seen it didn't had commentary about it. but, and 2 of fundamental things that are close to both of us here, all 3 of us here in our audience isn't number one, george. about 11 minutes was devoted to foreign policy. considering the times that's very little. they basically agreed. but it's something that you and i talked about later, course running american foreign policy, who is behind these 2 major military complex that they could only escalate. but considering the administration, this is really worried me is a who's in charge george. it was a very good question for you just because the shows is the nobody's able to explain

of who is indeed making the decisions. and the factors of the united states is now very actively involved into very serious conflicts, both of which could easily escalade into major uh, global wars. and with we saw this man, the man who was at the button this debate. and this was quite shocking that this is the person who's making the fundamental decisions, you know, and all the things that we have talked about, you know, week of the week about the, the escalation in ukraine, the dangers that way, you know, really getting step by step into, into a very real conversational the nuclear superpower. and this is the man who was making these decisions. and he really was, you know, quite sure. okay. because he wouldn't be want to say that if america was like in the 1990 is one that didn't seem to be any problem at all that anyone needed to worry about. but now there's a great deal to worry about. and so, you know, the issue isn't just simply well, well,

by him if he's re elect to get to complete his tongue. but what's gonna happen over the next 5 months? i mean, where, you know, until january, i mean, is this man really competent to make fundamental decisions? i mean, we really did, you know what we were talking couple weeks ago about, oh, he's signed off on the ukraine using america and miss silas on russian territory. so that's fine, but that's the man who, who made that decision because that decision, which we shocked all of us. that was the man who made that decision. well, who was it? who, who made that decision? was it, was it his wife jail? was it the sullivan to, you know, we, we really need to know because he's a big, big decisions are being made. we want to know where to make those decisions. well, also judge it does is by despite have the capacity to understand that he made that decision or the teeth i get or words just being put into his mouth. and this is very serious or, you know, martin, i mean he again, you know,

looking at these 2 complex, you create and then israel palestine, this would only in bold and someone like benjamin netanyahu to this kind of traits is way into american domestic and foreign policy. and of course, if you're the russians watching that you're thinking, oh, who is in charge? who's going to make the decision? who do we need to talk to? this is a sense, a chill down. everyone's fine because in the event i've titled this program of the west drift and that's what it looks like, martin. yeah, but i think what i've been paying about for months seems to seems to be ringing true. i've always said that i saw the trunk was going to head towards a big victory. how come not being, don't know off to that performance, but bite. and when you look at a guy who is rapidly losing his sense of, of reality and he operates awesome days between rents of the list says 2 detached is kind of

a on off switch. what we see on the public stage on the time of the following day, is our campaign, right? excuse me, you seem to be more lucid. but you know, if you're missing yahoo or your boost and you're looking at this guy and you're thinking if this guy is gonna stop, if he really is gonna make it to november, the 5th a. so i think this is, and we're looking at a lot of slides from trump. i called him mentioned a lot of democrats and folks is wanting to buy it from a lot of them i think, which is not the 1st. and i think the, i type i put a guilt edge around the furnaces by simply watching the scene analysis on the 9th. they will do all of these democrats and circled on screen, you know, experts upon this. and all of them said, this is just too much is too bad because going to be replaced. and after the democrats on cnn was saying that, but the problem with, i think, nominally speaking you're absolutely right. but george, these 2 wars, a decent biden's wars is administrations wars and they don't want anyone to

interrupt what they're doing, whoever is making that decision. so the possibility of a greater possibility of the donald trump could come back into power. which mean we really don't know, we didn't, they didn't talk enough about foreign policy. trump is smart enough to basically stay away from it. but there are these people in power. they don't want to be interrupted here. i mean, you know this, this, this pest called bite and shouldn't get in the way. the reason why i'm saying that george is that it doesn't matter what voters think, it's about who has power things. then that's what makes this very dangerous. george . well, i think it is the end of the so a long way to go before the election. and one can see all sorts of the best steps that can be taken to either to do something about trunk or to make sure the trump stays in line. so we, we know that in, in a about a week or so,

the trump will be in a courtroom in new york for sentencing is now being convicted of $34.00 a felon is. and, you know, he'll be facing a judge who's very, who's a democrat, very, very on sympathetic control. it's not totally impossible that he will impose a presence in person in charge of what do you, how more likely is it now? do you think? well, i think it is more like the sends him straight to riker's island and you know, he wouldn't be doing anything wrong is that i'm, you know, he's been convicted to study for felony going. so that's, that's what happens. you know, you send the person on the straight talk to right this island. so that's a possibility. you know, you might go easy on them and say, okay, um, well i'll, i'll keep you in uh, in, in detention in your home. and you're not allowed to travel, or if you want to travel anywhere, you have to ask my permission or the condition of your probation office x. so that's still a,

a possibility. if we also know that the, if they didn't work out with the, the democrats, if things that work out in the house elections, and the democrats are the ones who are going to be deciding whether to certify a trump victory. they've already made clear. we will never certify it from richard, so much as we will never do it. you know, we'll say he's an insurrection and we will never do it. so i think there's, oh, there's a lot of things that can still happen to prevent. and i mean, we said nothing. and the other thing is we yeah, i mean that's a good. no, because as we go, i mean if, if people go to bullying, you know, these criminal charges all the civil suits and everything. they're not just gonna go away and say, okay, well that's the thing we can do. so i give us the president trump, uh, they're not gonna do that because they're gonna stop and say you just keep them up . but, but let's, let's stay on course here. martin this again this, it adds to my concern is that george just gave a few possibilities or

a lot more out there. unfortunately, none of them very good. none of them very democratic by the way. but martin, if we see the, even the potential of a it trump victory, or it's put in another way of the lack of abiding victory. i know that sounds kind of strange because you could have the lack of, of buying victory and trump is in jail. so it even is more confusing near what worries me is it people in the state department, the c, i a, the defense department say we got to speed up our timelines here. we have to continue to push our agenda because we don't know if we're going to be doing this in a few months time accelerating and that will create some more risk. go ahead, mark. if the scenario is of george's on the line, all seem to point to chaos on november, the 5th, november the 5th. you've options set yourself in a similar question with a trunk full witness where the establishment will allow them to win. but aligned that she acknowledge those folks in those states to also jo,

this question i think is pretty clear now from the debates. i'm from on the video footage. the to buy to is wanting america. i think i think she is playing much, much more on the role. so we gave her credit for and you know, a but it doesn't happen. joyce's, i mean those are generally, as i can say immediately when you do that, but within seconds i can see this guy. there's not a media advisor does not have an extra list of 30 years experience. normally, who is advising a media? takes them into the tv studio. does the practice run? doesn't the questions, i guess is image has messed whether the media vasa, if it was a media advisor, i mean, many of the other advisors he doesn't have. i think jim is filling in on oh well, i mean martin, i think i think it's pretty well clear that he was given a lot of prep it just that if you have that, the lack of mental acuity you get all the practice and prep tools and get to help you at all. yeah, but i think he thinks the of to work in television news for most of my life,

i think. so what he was doing was he was being read a script through as a pace. and i can tell you that is physically impossible for any to be present at some repeated up by some of the same space. i know. i know it's on the sit virtually impossible to you know, the best you know, judge um i, i think the martin is on to something here, but it seems to be in united, discussed is i, i get in my bones. i feel this was pre meditated, you know, what if he really wants to run, let him, you know, stand his own 2 feet and give it a shot. he failed, interestingly enough, because it's, this is an obama project to these obama. it's not very proud of. he's continuing to back him, but i think that you have everything behind the scenes when it comes to policy that apparently joe biden isn't really involved. and that's what's an issue here. and we don't know who the decision makers are. no, we really don't. and it was surprising that you had this debate because when we

talked about this many times, um uh, you know, when we were discussing the election, we were convinced that that would be no debates. because if the bible say what i'm under a debate, answer extradition, or you know, you try one of one and that said, you know, you the, i'm not, i'm not going to do it. um, and that would have been obviously the sensible thing for him to do because rubles or media type solely. joe scarborough was a and the rest of them was same item the so sharpie, so a to do so on the board. he understands the menu so well as the young man, you know, i'm, we know this because we talked to him in private then you know what it is and is, i think so now i think dollars, i mean taken this step, come and say, hey, you've been lying to as you've been selling us a bill of goods all this time. so it does now become a little bit difficult. however, the media a so in the tank with the buying. and then once they realize that he's not going anywhere, you know, obama has said he's saying i that's i, george, you know,

i agree. i think we meet with. i think you've already talked about it uh, 4872 hours to get us figure out what they're going to do. one last thing gentlemen, before we go to the break, remember there is the democratic convention, could be a lot of fireworks there to are a gentleman and to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real mistake with our to the the, the, [000:00:00;00]

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let's talk about the, the election that just started in france here in a few days. it will be the election in the u. k. mart. um, why didn't the chrome pull up call in the election because i, you know, when i think about this guy in high politics coming from nowhere, i know it may be, is put into the presidential palace. this guy, his weren't nothing about politics whatsoever. this guy is erotic and bind being told people on the grounds that if they as they go through the selection cycle here, if his party is wallet, there's going to be pressure on him to reside. and when getting rid of a french president is virtually impossible, martin is the 1st name possible, but i think we will see some new policies. and so we'll see a new landscape and from so when the defense policy wins, the lens, language is what the they ask, but it's a big thing. and the roles, micron would be very much as a, as a ceremonious president. you know, like the german presence of all the town and presidents, he,

you'll just be required to turn up. are you still have some pals on the phone policy, of course. but you know, he's made a huge mistake and he's made the same mistake that she sent it made, which he's not. if you call that's not election very quickly. then in syria, you really more support from your own side, from your own floating versus that might we thinking of leaving, you know, they apparently they quickly, you know, get focused and stay with you and that's completely wrong. let me know that. so really, so that has made this mistake. nicholas made the same state you find is pushed a lot of people to was depend, spotty and we are witnessing something pretty amazing. i mean, i've been saying to you for a long time. but the other thing elections, which i'm going to, i'm press the number of m e p for, right? i mean, please enter your pin palm, it will change the demographics and the functionality of the union. but in addition to the far right groups across europe, office groups, which can i take more power, all gonna change completed landscape. i'm entirely how the european union function

. so you're gonna have a new relationship now, whereby the pen does as the leader of this policy and possibly even the president i would imagine in 2 years time will she will do is she will basically blackmail your opinion and do what briton couldn't do, which is to say, we don't have a whole lot of new rules and exemptions for folks. i don't know. so i mean, you know, literally the realism is far more resilient than the finish. i should say this is young guy, jordan bar, della george, where you, what are your thoughts on i, i did a little bit of research. i'm a guy, pretty amazing story out of nowhere. and he's 28 years old and he's technically head of the party. so i, i think so, and i, and i don't know really where the le pen, spotty will actually get that 51 percent of the, um, uh the, the representatives and the, and the national assembly is forcing my crown to name by the law as prime minister

because it could be that the national riley will get a plurality, which case micro can stop playing all sorts of games as to who you will select this up as prime minister. because you know, it's, it's, it's very complicated. they, they have us to around the system. so we already don't know, you know, of, to what happens. uh, a union the 1st around what happens then off the, in the, in the 2nd round people. so we'll start switching their phones. so i, you know, i'm, i'm not sure they will get that, that 51 percent. oh, so the national riley, i'm going to look look pins. that's kind of watered down all of the positions. all of that. yeah. that, that for rushes, anti establishment of abuse. the a father, obviously it had but the, she had to some the for some time, i mean, you know, all the stuff about the, to the fix it, you know, from leaving the, you mean from leaving the your, from. so you're leaving the nato integrated metric come on, i mean, able to, on ukraine,

just kind of been all over the place. the no charge isn't just the getting the maloney is ation of the, of the bar. right? exactly. i think it is. so here, then you gradually become acceptable. as i said, yeah, i'm full sanctions against russia, but as long as the sanctions don't vote from i, you know, and for sending a weapons, the ukraine, but as long as the defensive weapons, no offensive weapons. so it's, it's, so it's very convoluted, you know, you know, if, if they're going to do well, and i think will be the case other, the older. well, it's more like, well, because it's not my call. i mean, that's best to read this. don't think us as a business, particularly strong positive agenda. she's not macro and, and people sick the death of back. oh no, i used to be that we'd be the case, at least the candidate isn't left and now we have it. we have a smart and, you know, one of the things i'm looking at mainstream coverage here, the bogeyman words right wing it, you know, that's what i always love to invoke here. i'm a really convinced of that,

and i look at the lot of these parties since we have the european union. um you, europe and parliament elections it's, it's more people dissolution with the me, a liberal parties of the center and then anything else. i don't see this lunge to the right or the right thing is they love to say. so this is just a dissolution. and particularly when you look at the u. k, i mean, you know, i'm an outside or way outside or but when i look at these are the main labor and the tories. i to say what, what do you want me to decide? i mean, you know, i think these are just bankruptcy of ideas smarter. yeah, i think it's a little bit to do with the shop with the new, you know, when you look at those policies, what, what is the main issue in the british election is probably immigration with the economy is a very close 2nd. and i think will be the same thing with the french apartment selections. immigration is a huge issue, which those parties you talked about? there's my simple, this is shelly away from the tacitly head on now. so 10 or 15 years. um, now you know, the,

the infrastructure he's done to crumble. yep. and people now moving towards the pen, i'm the principal motor of using georgia. that's the right. the pen has the ready class of the last 10 years. she said she was smart. she could see that it wasn't very clever move to be combining to, to remove from your opinion when you know that your opinion is so much the from so that would be a nancy votes. probably that would be a negative vote from a number of the key groups like farmers because farmers farms in the okay, for example, never lost a huge amount of money just because that culture subsidies which is government con, replace, and the pen would realize that she did that, you know, it would actually cause more problems than the i'm actually giving her a nice and leverage, but keeping into your opinion and you get some more power can. so the more leverage gives her a board, a power base live, hang on. you know, she's here a skeptic and she's hinted recently to the front for us that you know, we taught rollouts for us. it becomes a referendum, and this is a little time to blackmail game which i'm absolutely so that's and will play out in

the coming months. she will talk you for a whole load of exemptions, you know, giving priority to friends, citizens, and business friends. it is for joe, but for example, a new role is on integration border control, which is which is exclusive to friends. and if you doesn't give in to that, well then we have a situation where by she won't be forced to say, well, i can't do anything above this. i mean, people are saying that we should have a referendum. you know where the front stays in the unit, no thoughts, a founding member of the european union in less than that, not being any longer into your opinion and is on think of with us the end of the european union as we know it. so i think what happens is i've been predicting this in my articles, i think over the coming years we're going to see a streamlined new european union is hoping to and from us we'll get his exemptions . jim, you'll get it's or, or, or george, they just k as to the status quote. i'm, i'm putting my money more on that position,

then the alternator forces getting their sway. because this is this, the, the nature of neo liberalism. they will crush any faith. so you can put lipstick on a pig all you want. okay. but they crush you in the end storage. i think that's right. because when you think of immigration, i mean the immigration policy is said by the european union. you really come to stop play around with it, isn't the european union decides immigration border controls as i do conscious of the say well you know, we're not taking in anymore asylum seekers. we're going to close the borders to asylum seekers. and um, yeah, the given scenario being said, no, you can't do that but to violate. so i'll rosa it will be say, well, we're not going to take in our quotes of migrants, anything the use of what you can do that, that violates a you both. we've seen what happened to fix or by and i mean you're going to get hit him with fine off the fine off the fine because he's violating the

e u bowl is it is the positive we have set and that that's what happened to maloney . i mean maloney or you know, this is or what i'm going to close the, the border. no, no, let anyone else. so the needs of the same thing was it and we're not letting anyone else because it's done very quickly. does he use a you have to do it because those are the, you probably have the tools we have to do as soon as you have the you have to follow the products. and the same goes for the budget rate controls because i gain the use and say we have very strict rules about that through g d p ratio. we have very strict rules about the, you know, how big the budget deficit is allowed to be used on why lighting these rules. you know, and we're going to make life very difficult for your model is right. well yeah, but the end is going to the use this in order to confront you at some point. i don't see it. i mean, she's already is we should see how she caves step step by step. we're seeing what happened to me alone a. so i, you know, i have my doubt that she's the, she's way get one of the will the way in

a come from the one thing. one thing i don't know, martin is that if i'm missing the chrome is going to get the ball up. i mean, to what degree remains to be seen, okay. labor is going to the form of government. we know that. but considering the problems that both countries have a default position is foreign policy. the russians are bad guys. we have to back ukraine, because that's in lieu of dest, a solving a multitude of problems that they can't seem to solve either party, any party in the european union, go ahead work on a saturday. i think one of the, one of the things that i'm the pen may, will consider doing is meeting the fat boy being there are various weights or votes on old, pick your opinion and decisions to get our way to get help. policies rushed through and one of those, one of those decisions that she could be to, she could really make a huge, um, noise about is you funding a view claim? well, for example,

i mean i think she is going to play the black male card with you. your pain unit to get away was a, she gets those exemptions are not an ultimately leads to around the front referendum, which is the ultimate site. because, you know, the, you can't really function without frogs, that city but, but george's point about, you know, all these a rules and you don't, you don't be able to, you know, make a, a changes to the rules and immigration that they will make changes. i will make exception, the assumptions were already happening. and when to your opinion, it will. so as great says, one of the piece about some from a, from one of the complaints of a number of big other countries was the fonts. i negotiated a set of rules for itself, which included a whole list of assumptions, and there's no reason why they come out of your power, full founding foundation electronics. is there a reason why i called onto again for new exemptions? you know, the problem is, is where does that start and what does it stall, continue loss of the same thing, you know, but my point is, okay,

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