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to watch on, i'd say the hello and welcome to cross that bullhorn time peter a little. here we discussed some real news the american presidential debates demonstrated job. i'm is unfit to continue in office. the question arises and as to who is in charge of 2 major military conflicts, also will elections in france and the u. k. change the course of neo liberalism to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess towards samuel we in budapest, he is a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube band, locals, and america. yes, we have martin j e. as an award winning journalist and commentator, gentleman cross type rules and effects, that means he can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. right,
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let's kick it off with george in budapest. i don't want to rehash the debate here. i think everybody's seen it in had commentary about it, but to a fundamental things that are close to both of us here, all 3 of us here in our audiences. and number one, george, about 11 minutes was devoted to foreign policy considering the times that's very little. they basically agreed. but it's something that you and i talked about later . course running american foreign policy who is behind these 2 major military complex that they could only escalate, but considering the administration, this is really worried me is a, goes in charge. george. it was a very good question for you. just because the shows is the, nobody's able to explain of who is indeed making the decisions. and the practice of the united states is now very actively involved into very serious conflicts, both of which could easily escalate. its a major uh, uh, global was,
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and with we saw this man, the man who was at the button this debate. and this was quite shocking that this is the person who's making the fundamental decisions, you know, and all the things that we have talked about. you know, week of the week about the, the escalations in ukraine, the dangers that way, you know, we were getting step by step into, into a very real conversational the nuclear soup about. and this is the man who was making these decisions. and the reading was so you know, quite sure. okay, because it wouldn't be one thing if america was like in the 1990 is one that didn't seem to be any problem at all that anyone needed to worry about. but now there's a great deal to worry about. and so, you know, the issue isn't just simply well, well, by him if he's re elect to get to complete his tongue. but what's gonna happen over the next 5 months? i mean, where, you know, until january, i mean, is this man really competent to make fundamental decisions?
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i mean, we really did, you know what we were talking several weeks ago about, oh, he's signed off on the ukraine using america and miss silas on russian territory. so that's fine, but that's the man who, who made that decision because that decision, which we shocked all of us. that was the man who made that decision. well, who was it? who, who made that decision? was it, was it his wife jail? was it the sullivan? so you know, we, we really need to know because these are big, big decisions are being made. we want to know where to make those decisions. well, also judge it does is by despite have the capacity to understand that he made that decision or the teeth i get or words just being put into his mouth. and this is very serious or you know, more than, i mean he again, you know, looking at these 2 complex, you create and then israel palestine. this would only in bold and someone like benjamin netanyahu to this kind of traits is way into american domestic and foreign
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policy. and of course, if you're the russians watching that you're thinking of who is in charge, who's going to make the decision? who do we need to talk to? melissa, this is a sent a chill down. everyone's fine, because in the event i've titled this program of the west drift and that's what it looks like, martin. yeah, but i think um, what i've been paying on about a month seems to seems to be ringing true. i've always said that i saw the trunk was going to head towards a big victory. how can not be in doubt now off to that performance by binding? when you look at a guy who is rapidly losing his sense of, of reality and he operates awesome days between rents have elusive 2 detached is kind of a on off switch. what we see on the public stage all the time the following day is our campaign, right? excuse me, you seem to be more lucid. but you know, if you're missing yahoo or your boost and you're looking at this guy and you're
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thinking if this guy is gonna stop, if he really is gonna make it to november the 5th. so i think this is, and we're looking at a lot of slides from trump. i call the mention a lot of democrats and folks is wanting to buy it from a lot of them. i think we're just not fluids. and i think the, i type i put a guilt edge around the furnaces by simply watching the scene analysis on the 9th. they will do all of these democrats and circled on screen, you know, experts upon this. and all of them said, this is just too much is too bad because going to be replaced, nothing democrats on cnn the same. but the problem with that, i think nominally speaking you're absolutely right. but george, these 2 wars, these are bindings, wars is administrations, wars, and they don't want anyone to interrupt what they're doing, whoever is making the decision. so the possibility of the greater possibility of the donald trump could come back into power. which mean we really don't know,
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we didn't, they didn't talk enough about foreign policy. trump is smart enough to basically stay away from it. but there are these people in power. they don't want to be interrupted here. i mean, you know this, this, this pest called bite and shouldn't get in the way. the reason why i'm saying that george is that it doesn't matter what voters think, it's about who has power, thinks then that's what makes this very dangerous. george? well, i think it is the end of the so a long way to go before the election. and one can see all sorts of the best steps that can be taken to either to do something about trunk or to make sure the trump stays in line. so we, we know that, um, in, in a about a week or so, the trunk will be in a courtroom in new york for sentencing is now being convicted of for the, for a felon. is and, you know, he'll be facing a judge who's very, who's a democrat,
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very, very on sympathetic control. it's not totally impossible that he will impose a presence in person in charge of what do you, how more likely is it now do you think? well, i think it is more like the sends him straight to riker's island and you know, he wouldn't be doing anything wrong is that i'm, you know, he's been convicted to study for felony gallons. that's. that's what happens. you know, you send the person on the straight talk to right this island. so that's a possibility. you know, you might go easy on them and say, okay, um, well i'll, i'll keep you in uh, in, in detention in your home. and you're not allowed to travel, or if you want to travel anywhere, you have to ask my permission or the permission of your probation office x. so that's still a, a possibility. if we also know that the, if they didn't work out with the, the democrats, if things that work out in the house elections,
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and the democrats are the ones who are going to be deciding whether to certify a trump victory. they've already made clear. we will never certify it from richard, so much as we will never do it. you know, we'll say he's an insurrection and we will never do it. so i think there's, oh, there's a lot of things that can still happen to prevent. and i mean, we said nothing. and the thing is we yeah, i mean definitely no because it's a girl. i mean if, if people are going to bully, you know, all these criminal charges, all the civil suits and everything. they're not just gonna go away and say, okay, well that's the thing we can do. so i give us the president trump, uh, they're not gonna do that, but they gonna still see it as of keep them up. but, but let's, let's stay on course here. martin this again this, it adds to my concern is that in george just gave a few possibilities or a lot more out there. unfortunately, none of them very good. none of them very democratic by the way. but martin, if we see the, even the potential of
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a trump victory or it's put in another way of the lack of abiding victory. i know that sounds kind of strange because you could have the lack of, of buying victory and trump is in jail. so it even is more confusing near what worries me is it people in the state department, the c, i a, the defense department say we got to speed up our timelines here. we have to continue to push our agenda because we don't know if we're going to be doing this in a few months time accelerating and that will create some more risk. go ahead, mark. if the scenario is of george's on the line all seem to point to chaos on november, the 5th november the 5th. you will have to set yourself in a similar question with a trunk full witness. whether the establishment will allow him to win. but alarmed that she acknowledged those dates in those states to also jo, this question i think is pretty clear now from the debates and from on the video footage, the to buy to is wanting america. i think i think she is playing much,
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much more on the role. so we gave her credit for and you know, a but it doesn't happen. joyce's, i mean those are generally, as i can see immediately, when would you like to pay it within seconds? i can see this guy, there's not a medium size that does not have an extra list of 30 years experience. normally who is advising a media. takes them into the tv studio. does the practice run? doesn't the questions i guess is image has messed. what does that mean, advisor? who doesn't meet advisor? i mean, many of the other advisors he doesn't have. i think jim is filling in on. oh well, i mean martin, i think that i think it's pretty well clear that he was given a lot of prep. it just that if you have that, the lack of mental acuity you get all the practice and prep doesn't get to help you at all. yeah, but i think i actually think that a um of to work in television news for most of my life. i think that what he was doing was he was being read a script through his a pace. and like i'm telling you that is physically impossible for any to be present at some repeated up by some of the sudden space. i know, i know it's on the safe, virtually impossible to you know, the best you know,
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george. um i, i think the martin is on to something here, but it seems to me and you and i just discuss this i, i guess in my bones i feel this was pre meditated you know, what if he really wants to run, let him, you know, stand his own to feed and give it a shot. he failed, interestingly enough, because it's this was an obama project to these obama, so i'm very proud of. he's continuing to back him, but i think that it will, everything behind the scenes when it comes to policy that apparently joe biden isn't really involved. and that's what's the issue here. and we don't know who the decision makers are. no, we really don't. and it was surprising that he had this debate because when we talked about this many times, um uh, you know, when we were discussing the election, we were convinced that that would be no debates because of a bad bind. we'll say what i'm under a debate, answer extradition, or, you know, you try one of the one, and that's it. you know, you the, i'm not,
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i'm not going to do it. and that would have been obviously the sensible thing for him to do because rubles all the media type solely, joe scarborough as a and the rest of them was same item, the so sharpie, so acuity. so i'm a bold young besides the menu. so well as the young man, you know, i'm, we know this because we talk to him in private then you know what it is and is, i think so now i think dollars, i mean taking this step come and say, hey, you've been lying to is you've been selling us a bill of goods all this time. so it does now become a little bit difficult. however, the media a so in the tank with the buying. and then once they realize that he's not going anywhere, you know, obama has said he's saying that's i, george, you know, i agree. i think we meet with. i think you and i already talked about it uh, 4872 hours to get us figure out what they're going to do. one last thing gentlemen, before we go to the break, remember there is the democratic convention, could be
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a lot of fireworks there to are a gentleman and to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on summary on this day with our to the the,
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the, what is part of the blog post that isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part is it something deeper, more complex might be present let's stop without collision. let's go out of the as the welcome echo across that both orange and peter live else. here we're discussing some real news. all right, let's talk about the,
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the election that just started in france here in a few days. it will be the election in the u. k. mart. um, why didn't the chrome pull up call in the election? because, you know, when i think about this guy in high politics coming from nowhere, i know it may be is put into the presidential powers. this guy, his weren't nothing about politics whatsoever. this guy is erratic and by being told people on the grounds, that if they, as they go through this election cycle here, if his party is wallet, there's going to be pressure on him to reside. and we, and getting rid of a french president is virtually impossible. martin is 1st name possible, but i think we will see some new policies. and so we'll see a new landscape and from so when the defense policy winds the lens, language is what the they're supposed to been fixing. and the rollers, my phone would be very much as a, as a ceremony, as president, you know, like the german presence of all the time and president, he, you'll just be required to turn up. are you still have some pals on the phone
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policy, of course. but you know, he's made a huge mistake and he's made the same mistake the she sent it made, which is the if you call that's not election very quickly, then in syria, you really more support from your own side, from your own floating versus that might we thinking of leaving, you know, they apparently, they quickly, you know, get focused and stay with you and that's completely wrong. let me know that. so really, so that has made this mistake. nicholas made the same state and fibers pushed a lot of people to was depend, spotty, and we are witnessing something pretty amazing. i mean, i've been saying to you for a long time, but do you repeat elections, which i'm going to press the number of m e p for, right. i mean, please enter your pin palm, it will change the demographics and the functionality of the open union. but in addition to the following groups across europe, office groups, which can i take no power, i'm going to change completely as landscape. i'm entirely how the european union function. so you're gonna have
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a new relationship now whereby depend does as the leader of this policy and possibly even the president i would imagine and to this time. well, she will do is she will basically blackmail your opinion and do what britain couldn't do, which is to say, we don't have a whole lot of new rules and exemptions for folks. i don't know. so, i mean, you know, literally the realism is far more resilient than the, i just, i mean this, this young guy, jordan bardello, george, where you, what are your thoughts on i, i did a little bit of research on that guy. pretty amazing story out of nowhere and he's 28 years old and he's technical. you head of the party. so i, i think so, and i, and i don't know really where the look and spotty will actually get that 51 percent of the, um, uh the, the representatives and the, and the actual assembly is forcing my crown to name by the law as prime minister because it could be that the national riley will get a plurality, if you,
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which case micro can stop playing all sorts of games as to who you will select this up as prime minister. because you know, it's, it's, it's very complicated. they, they have us to around the system. so we already don't know, you know, of, to what happens. uh, a union the 1st around what happens and off the, in the, in the 2nd round people. so we'll start switching their phones. so i, you know, i'm, i'm not sure they will get that, that 51 percent. oh, so the national riley, i'm going to look look pins. that's kind of watered down all of the positions. all of that. yeah. that that for rushes, empty establishment of views as a father, obviously it had but the, she had to some the for some time, i mean, you know, all the stuff about, you know, the fix it, you know, from leaving the, you mean from leaving the, your, from so you were leaving the nato integrated metric them on, i mean, able to on ukraine, just kind of been all over the place. the no charge isn't just the getting the
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maloney is ation of the of the bar. right. exactly. i think it is so here, then you gradually become acceptable. as i said, yeah, i'm full of sanctions against russia. but as long as the sanctions don't vote from i, you know, and for sending a weapons, the ukraine, but as long as the defensive weapons, no offensive weapons. so it's, it's a, it's very convoluted. you know, you know, if, if they're going to do well, and i think will be the case of the other, the older. well, it's more like, well because it's not my call. i mean, that's best to read this. don't think us as a business, particularly strong positive agenda. she's not macro and, and people sick to death of back. oh, no i used to be. that would be the case. at least the candidate isn't left. and now we have a river martin, you know, one of the things i'm looking at mainstream coverage here of the, the boogeyman words right wing it. you know, that's what i always love to invoke here. i'm a really convinced of that, and i look at the lot of these parties since we have the european union. um you,
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europe and parliament elections it's, it's more people dissolution with the me, a liberal parties of the center and then anything else. i don't see this lunch to the right or the right now the thing is they love to say. so this is just a dissolution. and particularly when you look at the u. k, i mean, you know, i'm an outside or way outside or but when i look at these are the main labor and the tories. i to say what, what, what do you want me to decide? i mean, you know, i think these best, they're just bankruptcy of ideas smarter. yeah, i think it's a little bit to do with the shock with the new, you know, when you look at those policies, what, what is the main issue in the british election is probably immigration with the economy is a very close 2nd. and i think we'll do the same thing with the french apartment selections. immigration is a huge issue, which those parties you talked about? there's my simple, it is a shiny way, some tossing head on now. so 10 or 15 years now, you know, the, the infrastructure started to crumble. yep. and people now moving towards the pin,
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i'm the principal motor of using judges up to the right. the pen has de radicalized over the last 10 years. she said she was smart. she can see that it wasn't very clear to move to be combining to, to remove from your opinion when you know, the, your opinion is so much the from so that would be a nancy votes. probably that would be a negative vote from a number of the key groups like farmers because farmers farms in the okay, for example, never lost a huge amount of money just because that culture subsidies which is government con, replace, and the pen would realize that she did that, you know, it would actually cause more problems than the i'm actually giving her a nice and leverage, but keeping into europe and here you get some more power can. so the more leverage gives her a board, a power base. look, hang on, you know, she's here a skeptic and she's hinted recently to the french for us. but you know, we can't rule it out for us. it becomes a referendum and this is a little time, a black no game, which i'm absolutely. so that's and will play out in the coming months. she will out to you for a whole load of exemptions, you know,
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giving priority to french citizens. indigenous friends. it is for joe. but for example, a new role is on integration. border control, which is exclusive to friends. and if you doesn't give in to that, well then we have a situation where by she won't be forced to say, well, i can't do anything above this. i mean, people are saying that we should have a referendum. you know where the front stays in the unit alfonze, a founding member of the european union to in less than not being any longer into your opinion and is on think of with us the end of the your opinion. and as we know, as i say, what happens is and predicts in this, in my articles, i think over the coming years we're going to see a streamlined new european union evolving to and frost will get us exemptions. jim, you'll get it's or, or, or george they just k as to the status quote. i'm, i'm putting my money more on that position. then the, a alternative forces getting their sway. because this is this, the,
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the nature of neo liberalism. they will crush anything. so you can put lipstick on a pig all you want. okay. but they crush you in the end storage. i think that's right. because when you think of immigration, i mean the immigration policy is said by the european union. you really come to stop play around with it. there's some the europe in union decides the immigration border controls. are the side be gone to simply say well, you know, we're not taking in anymore asylum seekers. we're going to close the borders to asylum seekers. and um, yeah, the given scenario being said, no, you can't do that, but to violate. so i'll rosa it will be say, well, we're not going to take in our quotes of migrant since the use of what you can do that, that violates a you buzz. we've seen what happened to fix or by media, get the get, hit him with fine off the find out the fine because he's violating the e u bowl as it is the positive we have set and that that's what happened to maloney,
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i mean maloney or you know which is or what i'm going to close the, the border. no, no, let anyone else. so the needs of the same thing website and we're not letting anyone else because it's done very quickly. does he use a you have to do it because those are the, you probably have the tools we have to do as soon as you have the you have to follow the product to the same goes for the budget rate controls because i gain the use and say we have very strict rules about that through g d p ratio. we have very strict rules about the, you know, how big the budget deficit is allowed to be used on the y lighting. these rules, you know, and we're going to make life very difficult for your model is right. well yeah, but the end is going to the use this in order to confront you at some point, i don't see it. i mean, she's already is we should see how she caves step step by step. we're seeing what happened to him alone. a and i, you know, i have my doubt that she's the, she's very good one of the will the way in a come from the one thing. one thing i don't doubt martin is that if i'm missing
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the chrome is going to get the ball up. i mean, to what degree remains to be seen, okay. labor is going to the form of government. we know that. but considering the problems that both countries have a default position is foreign policy. the russians are bad guys. we have to back ukraine, because that's in lieu of dest, a solving a multitude of problems that they can't seem to solve either party, any party in the european union, go ahead work. one is a saturday, i think one of the, one of the things that the pen may will consider doing is being the fat boy being there are various weights of oaks on old. pick your opinion and decisions to get our way to get help. policies rushed through and one of those, one of those decisions, if it could be to you can really make a huge um, noise about, is you funding of you claim well, for example, i mean, i think she is going to play the blackmail card with your fan unit to get her way
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was a she gets those exemptions are not an ultimately it leads to around the front referendum which is the ultimate site. because, you know, the, you can't really function without folks that city. but, but you'll just point about, you know, all these a rules and you don't, you don't be able to, um, you know, make changes to the rules and immigration that they will make changes. they will make exceptions. assumptions are already happening. and when to your opinion, you will 1st grade is one of the piece about some of one of the complaints of a number of big other countries was the fonts. i negotiated a set of rules for itself, which included a whole list of assumptions. and there's no reason why they come out of your power, full founding foundation, let fall into the reason why i called onto again for new exemptions. you know, the problem is, is what does that start and what does it stall? congenitally lost in the same thing. you know, but my point is okay without sorry for the tools passes so
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