leisure that the countries so it'd be a pdf social and you'd be lucky indication that the people okay. yeah, that's a couple that's my thought. how come of age and the see we will do once to the government. the see the kind of government to book a company that has been that just funded, it has to be created as a result of the go. so the advice for my a man for them us see him, but you can you and we are saving under the people what be protesting. i've been saying no, we would want a copy that accountable to us not accountable. i am old miller walter about this was the reason why we didn't to the finance be, which was doing an adult to be all to the from am it's right. uh, you know, i guess the next real question would be, do you believe that the dissolution of dissolution of the cabinet could satisfy the protests of, i mean they also wanted route to, to resign?

well, they'd be a piece by him firing so many of his top officials for the doubt, this is not the age of getting these as one of the missions that have been taken by the system. so we do not expect this default. we would love, we are looking forward to a situation where by the government, the whole government supposed to see if he has never thought, but i'll be solved a bit. i think i think it's the only remaining possible executive himself and his deputy, if they got a bucket, the positions that they are holding up, probably that's when the education over a change in governance of our country is going to stop. but you know, spot has to be a concern. we don't expect today for the distance to stop. we expect them in the team substitute intensive light because they have seen whatever they shouldn't be due to full has to be implemented or i'll be the peace be they want and all the hard to do the coverage. ok. so name a i use saying that the route,

so we'll have to resign in the end. or would you think he'll hold out? no, it is not possible for me to see how he's going to this board, but ultimately the part this task uh the monday for his booth. how, how he is going to take these and how he has been, i believe it went up by designing more for the one. wow, i do not know, but this is what happened. i bought bleeding by what has happened in the past enough because i point to that we do not expect to pull the study entities. i. they have to be, uh, multiple that does what do you think, right, when i have the name of that that hey, we came on a you called on some of those as well as the, as low came consultant services. so thank you so much for joining us. here today on the budget, so thanks again. well, that route was up this new though, as always, great to have your company that was here on all the international. going to be back in about 28 minutes. we'll see you the,

the okay. hello again everybody. i'm rick sanchez. this is direct impact, and this is what we're going to be talking about to get decent, courageous, visionary, people who believe in something bigger than their own. he is right. he is super smart. he is not afraid to speak the truth. he's a harvard professor, and he's running to be the president of the united states. cornell west joins me here on direct impact. let's do this of the, you know, i thought a lot, i thought a lot about what we wanted to start to show with the today and i was, i was thinking of myself as the way it looks to the united states and wonders what

the hell is going on here is what they're saying. they seem to man who happen to be the oldest presidents in the history of the united states, and now they want to do it again. one seems to be a little off as walker and the other seems to need a rocker. they represent 2 parties that are generally the same and tend to offer up mostly status quote, people with status quo ideas. and the truth is the way most americans see it. both parties lie both loved to play up narratives that divide rather than unify again, that's the way most americans see it. so why, why is it continue? let me give you an example by the way of what i'm talking about. the whole country knows that there, there's something horribly wrong with the president's mental and physical fitness. i mean, you're, you're, there's no, there's no escaping that, right? and, and it, and it's killing his pulse, and it's killing his, his chances of winning the presidency. and not to mention it's killing us party now

too. so, given that scenario, you wouldn't think right, that republicans would just to shut off, leave it alone. shakespeare said, what leave well enough alone, but they can't. they can't help themselves. they're starving for the spotlights starving for attention. so yesterday, i'm sitting here watching the news and these guys, they call a group news conference yesterday to say, i told you so about you know about, but even though really they didn't tell us. so here here's part, here it is. good morning. there is no longer any doubt that joe biden is unfit to be our commander in chief. the bite in white house far left house democrats and the main stream media are in complete disarray because they know this to be true and have been caught participating in one of the greatest media cover ups in american history. for the last 3 and a half years house republicans and the american people have been demanding details

about jo biden's mental and physical decline. no, they haven't been doing that. look, not for nothing, but the republican party has been having hearings on capitol hill tons of hearings one after another where they seem to be saying, we all watch this with our own eyes. do they think we don't remember? they said just the opposite. in fact, they described joe biden as some even a genius who had masterminded a negotiate and these elaborate deals in contracts with the chinese government was millions of dollars. and they said he did the same with several other countries including ukraine. they made about to be some incredibly corrupt which still might be true, but yet sophisticated wheeler dealer. and now, because everybody else is saying, oh, they portray him at some doddering old man and can't even put a sentence together look, which is it? because it can't be both. manila, let me bring you in on this. you know,

as i was watching this, i couldn't help and take that and i wonder what your reaction is a well rec, i want to be fair to the republicans here. i think all of these house committee hearings that they were holding regarding biting were all based on factual at least some part factual events that they can improve from joe biden younger days. either you know, from when he was a senator or definitely when he was vice president and the spend the envoy basically to ukraine at the time where we heard him on video threatening to withhold money and funding to rena. unless the ag there got fired. so there are, there are some legitimacy to what they were saying before, but that was before, that was the guy that was threatening the job. i didn't, that was threatening people in town halls to like push up competition. we hold that joe biden is long gone. so i think that's fair. yeah. what i mean. what about, what about, what about, what about my point about when, when, when you have an opponent and he's struggling, leave him alone. i mean,

i agree. i agree with that. let him dig his own grave. no pun intended, i'm not what she said. no, no, i know. i know what you're right. just strategically try to do exactly as strategically let him dig his own grave. let him make his own bed with his stutters . and his fumbles. let him do that. just like president trump has been kind of mom, mostly mom, this the debate because he's letting joe biden to try to muddle through and have the, the negative media focus on joe biden. and not him at this time, which is why we've not heard of donald trump announce who has the pack is and he will announce that at the republican convention next week, and know walkie. so i think, as far as the media goes, they have been accusing what we've been seeing me as, as 1st, a republican spin, because joe biden is vibrant and vigorous and bureau and all that really natalie stuff. but now it's a, it's a russian conspiracy that the russians are,

they're pulling out the old play book. and now that the russians, they're saying the russians are amplifying that jo biden's condition really is or have bad as we see it has a brand new thing. and we'll have 24 hours. i haven't heard that. i imagine them, if it's not the russians, it's the iranians. and if it's not the right iranians, it's the palestinians. and it was about the palestinians. it's the chinese because we have to live in a world where we only have enemies, and those are the people that we seem to play the god, you're absolutely right. you're absolutely right. manila, pleasure, little short and segment today, cuz i want to spend some time with an old friend. thanks so much and it's still sticking around. i look forward to seeing you again tomorrow. partner. look, you don't want this conversation. i'm in the middle and i were just having the real question and all of this is no matter how you see this, we're spend, this is why do we have to choose seriously? why do we have to choose between these 2 parties right now whether whether you like buy them, then you think is not craze are too. busy so there are you like trump and you think

he's not too crazy? whatever. when, when, when right now 25 percent of americans hate both parties and both candidates. that's a real gallop statistic by the way. 25 percent. so why can't we hear the voices of other candidates? why are we gotten to this point in this country? why can't other ideas be we can be thrown into the ring? well, that's what i'm going to be talking about today. and we're going to join by presidential candidate, former harvard professor cornell west. you will want to hear what he has to say. so whatever you do as you look at them right there, his smiling face do not go away. we'll be right back the

there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit, this is the 3rd world will receive re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to helping living on mac have very close propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is will be the . it's a great pleasure right now. as we welcome you back to welcome to our show, doctor cornell was former harvard professor running for the presidency of the united states. and you know, it's interesting being able to talk to i, i think someone who's an old friend in many ways, cuz as many of you may know,

and i'm sure he remembers it. when i worked at cnn. and i worked at the nbc and i worked at fox and all those years. well, one of the things that i remember was having the opportunity to interview dr. cornell west. and i've always thought that he was one of the few real truth colors in this country. they were, there aren't enough of them and you know, and dr. west is, i'm thinking about what i'm saying to you. i'm thinking to myself that i said something at the beginning here where i said, we've got, we've become a country where our politicians are all status quote, people with status quote, ideas, and use or happen to be just the opposite of that. do you understand where i'm going with that, you know, and they were one nobody just so very kind and generous. and we have precious memories of those days and cnn, and facts and others. but the crucial thing is you are as strong and fresh as ever . and that's a beautiful thing to be because when i think of

a brother but brother trouble, i say to myself, they both lottery king lear and learn how in fact, a powerful man and ruler becomes a human breed. being out of humility, to move from hubris, to, to humility, and to move from lying and mendacity to integrity and genuine generosity. that's a spiritual issue. that's a moral issue. me, you understand that well, with your own background, you've got to wrestle with all allowing that integrity to a merge. and all of us have that struggle on the battlefield of our own souls. but when you look at button and trump is very clear that they've, they've hemorrhage they've had listening so many different ways as a certain addiction to mendacity in lying and trumps. and the side, the trump, where is no accountability, say, and do anything he wants. and by this toll only the good stuff and not really the

full stuff. yeah. who really is everybody's got a good and bad in one sense. you think maybe it's what makes ma'am is cuz we, you know, i think one of the things that we all ought to do in this country, how in this world is, you know, look at everything through our own and professions and look for better things that where we can create maybe a better world, and i'm not seeing that. and when i use the term status quote with you, i've been doing a lot of reading lately. and i was thinking of myself, you know, it's the same people, the guys who are in the state department today were there with, with, with, with bush and with trump and with clinton and with obama. and the same people on the c, i a were there were the oldest and the same people in treasury. and after a while it's like we're growing, we ain't changes. we, we, i know i'm saying 8 and i probably shouldn't say that cuz i'm a grand that now. but you know, we're not moving forward professor. then you're absolutely right. i mean we, we're, we're, we're in a deep moment of spiritual decay and more of decadence. want to be honest about

that, you would tell them what your precious grant the grandchild. yeah and, and we all have kids and grandchild. it's a trying to give them examples of what it is just to be decent. what it is be consistent in what it is to be compassionate. so those are the things that have been pushed to the margin. it's all now just mike, a 1000000000, talk about power, inspect the cold and putting people down and tragic other people and being so obsessed with attention. and you said you said what about maturity, go back to shakespeare. it again, when it hadn't had goods is right, and this is all. now, what is rightness? maturing over time. what happens to an empire when it grows powerful and grows rich? but does it grow up? me doesn't really grow up in one sign of growing up is not just humility, but concerned with the vulnerable when you become indifferent to the vulnerable. when you become indifferent to those who are suffering,

the great reb i have show used to say in difference, the evils more than city is the evil itself. that's it shows you dec understanding of maturation. we can go to martin king is the similar insight we can go to guy and even a to the similar hand do inside we can go to bell hooks. is a symbol of buddhist inside or in bed. does the service bonus inside, but it's a deeply human affair. we're losing sight of our common humanity. the then that's not just the platitude. and that's real. as i hear you speak, i'm, i'm wondering why we're not allowed to give import to your candidacy as, as we should. i would, i would give you more important than i'm giving to any other candidate or certainly as much. do you have the, do you feel personally cheated? i know our country is the you as well. no. not really. i mean, any time it empowers in the k, it means that they are far removed from the best that went into the making of that

in part because every empire got some positive elements. the problem is you've got to deal with domination and oppression. and you've got to deal with the poverty and the suffering. you get to deal with the militarism. you got to deal with various forms in a phobia. but there is a best of america, you know. see the java is the bass. martin king is the best. this is the here, harriet tubman, she's about john coltrane. they are as american a dial drop. yeah. they are as they are the american as apple pie. but if we no longer have access to their examples, access to their love, the truth, the justice. then all we have access to other lies, the revenge, the retribution, and in the in. that's just the seeds of destruction. bravo. and you know, the great american novel mobile did because about what america is addiction to self destruction as a half melva wrote that

a 31 year old man that's deep. and so i wouldn't go to toni morrison. similar cutting. yeah. how do we a ring that into our politics? how can i politicians be as trooped? like, as are honest, have been, you know, you use the word destruction and as you say that something clicked in my head and i said, well, you know, it would be bad enough to destroy yourself, but we now seem to be planning to destroy the world. the fact of the matter is where it's going to start a war with china. why? who knows where it's shooting to start a war with russia, who, by the way, has more nuclear warheads. then we do buy essentially sabotaging at least 3 attempts so far. to stop the war in ukraine. look what's happening right now with nato. uh, same with a ron, by the way. and of course, the guys the situation. it speaks for itself. and on going on going, he can actually see the precious babies being killed and then we would say that's

about anybody babies. the baby of the same values is really baby, same value as a cuban baby. same values in ethiopia and baby, same value as an e. ronnie and baby, we want to be morally consistent. is it with you or president of how would you be able, you know, we use the word status quote, you know, when i think of our foreign policy, when i think of our state department, i think status qual, uh yeah. how are you? how would you tackle that? because, you know, if you did, you would get a lot of resistance. oh, well indeed indeed, make an end and nothing wrong with resistance. you just have to be resilient, but no, you see, i am an anti imperialist presidential candidate, which means that i'm running, they had the empire in order to dismantle the empire. i don't think that america needs 800 military use around the world. a $130.00 special operations and over a 100 countries and $0.62 of every discretionary budget,

a dollar going to the military. we've got 62 percent of our fellow citizens doing what living paycheck to paycheck, where, where is the money to trace the dollars? it goes to war. how would that money be better spent? we need quality communities, we need quality education. we need the right to health care. we need to ride the house and we don't need to have a 1000000 fellow citizens living on the streets and the richest imply the history of the world. does that at all? does this have more priority brother warp rella or it just does? it does surprise you that suddenly the democratic party, i'm sure if you're like me, you grew up a democrat, you know, or looking at the democratic party as the, you know, today trusted me. that's not where i am today, but by the way, i'm not on the other side either. i just, i, i criticized. oh, you think to yourself, you really like what use up to vendor. but did you ever think that the democrats would be such a more longer that they've become as a party, a well you member might. and jane had to break with l. b. j,

because he was lying to had the crimes of the vietnam war. yeah, you're right. you know, and i mean very much the sad thing is the both parties had been tied to big money in big military and you have to be truthful about both that as me do exactly identical. but it certainly means that both have consensus when it comes to military adventure, them around the world. look at, look at the various us government and dimensions in latin america over the last 50 years. that was republicans, as well as democrats. yeah, yeah. yeah. could be guatemalan, $54.00, oregon, b, brazil, and $65.00 dominican republic and $65.00 and go on and oh no, yeah. and a, a jilly and you're right. oh, it's sheila and $73.00. 0, my god, you mentioned guatemala on 54200000 people. that because we decided we didn't like the person they elected and we decided to go in there and take them out. and it's a story that's too often and told them, by the way, when i tried to tell that story and cnn, they said you're out of here. we don't want them. andrews who criticizes our

country, but new. i criticize my kids, it doesn't mean i don't love them. that's exactly right. we'll say this is what i mean by maturity and humility. when you love both, you respect, protect and also call wreck. and if you love your country, you protect you respect. but you also correct. yeah, and that's the only way in which you continually mature what you give up on maturation, bravo. you got stagnation or destruction. and we're living it in a moment in which, you know, the united states is the 68th input and the history of the species. we, as there's been 70, and all empowered sooner or later begin to do the decay as the military overreach abroad. and corruption of the leads across parties and the frustration of the citizenry and the hunger for a strong man using the strong workman, but a strong man. that's where the patriarchy comes in. we'd know, but the strong man, his tire ran a go and usually that tire they go next to really plato's republic. the tired

himself is so shot through with a, a narcissism, and of masochism and an inability to engage in introspection. and what does it do? he leave the place off the cliff now you said before, as the world would tell him where we got an ecological catastrophe, we've got to come to them. if the nations can't respect each other and work together to deal with ecological catastrophe, what are we really talking about? yeah, but the good news is, there's always a cloud of witnesses. the wave of people of all colors, all genders, august, 5th, drawing patients, all religions who were willing to be courageous, compassionate, sacrificial truth. tell in just the seeking and joy spreading that to keep the joy of that brother. 5 minutes left in this interview. and i want to ask you about 2 things that are in the news right now. one of them obviously, is nato because it's taking place as we speak. and the other one, of course,

is going to be the condition of our president. why don't you say we start with nato? i'm curious about what you're thinking. as i look at nato meeting this week, here, no less in the united states. i see a group of nations who are trying to define themselves by separating themselves from other nations. they seem to be saying, we don't want anything to do with india or russia, or china, or iran, or south africa, or many of these countries who are on the other side instead of saying, come join us, let's be big. they seem to be saying, let's be small and we're going to be getting ste. yeah. that's the most of my, i'm getting. how am i wrong? you know what i'd say. it was what it as a 1945 in chicago defenders. he said he sees a world war 3 coming about with the united states, trying to strangle hold russia and suppress china as 1945. and the boys wouldn't write on everything. nobody's has a monopoly on true, but it's very deep inside. he has because you're absolutely right. of course you

can see the attempt to did the counter, the counter, the merges the various countries in the global south. yeah. and you can see tip attempts to act as if we're not in this thing together as a human beings. acr. busy off of global side global north, no, it's going to be the predatory capital is ones that have to have history. the very ugly colonialism that's bill want to hold on, rather than embracing each and every one of the $192.00 precious nations and country that constitute this blo. but you're absolutely right. but another place to start there was, is george ken as pa, for peace in february and new york times 1997. when he said it is an air to expand nato, that george kennan was the very mind that brought not just containment and that the comment is policy. but nato 1949 together in the game with rid of to 1947. as you know then what the, what was the responding to the collapse of the soviet. yeah,

yeah. a lot of it's refresher but all of its domination. how do you bring them in? we didn't do that. yeah. important themselves said recently, twice, i've come to the united states and said, make me a part of nato instead of engineering. right. i mean, let me be a part of what you guys do. and they said, no, we don't want you to be why, why would we not? and i would invite she, i would invite the i have to, i wouldn't, but why not disagree with them to their face? not away from them. don't you think that's it? that's exactly right, that's exactly right, but apart, but it has to do an orthodox, the dogmatism narrow on this and especially those at least the causes do the washington consensus that you've talked about in an, in your presentation. know, brother, they just locked in to that kind of parochialism and also tied to the big corporate interest and the war manufacturers and others. well, payton here mike for director is given me the big 2, which means we've got 2 minutes left. so i think let me leasing the last 2 minutes

for this very important discussion about something that's taking place in our country right now. the condition of our president. what, what, what is your take on we, what we as a nation, what his wife, maybe the people around him should be telling. uh, as you would say. uh, brother, by. oh, yeah, yeah. we gotta pay for the brother and jill and the others is clear. he doesn't have both paddles in the waters form of elderly abuse, to have him out there acting as if he's. he's 41 rather than 81. i'll go back again, re king nearby and please come to terms with father time come to terms with the client, all of us on into the very moment they were born. we're old enough to die. we're already in the process of a certain kind of decline and it becomes crystallized by the time you get a certain age. and it's clear that it's highly crystallized and his time is not just the move a side. but then you've got to deal with a democratic party that has its own corrupts and then the allies been told about by

me is if he somehow is on the cutting edge of fraction, isn't it? me? don't believe a line i that that's what would, oh, it looks like it's it's, it's a lot like watching a felina movie with my all the athletic free. i think the leading the cartridge or the 2nd civil war by lead. because you do a war 3 in both of them have been in such spiritual lives as the go decline and, and it was supposed to sit there and take it. no, i mean while we're saying pulled numbers where people are looking at both, i'm saying i'm not even sure i want to vote for either of these guys. it's a fascinating situation in our history. and then we have people like you, as we leave this conversation, let me just say that i'm sure i speak for millions of americans when i say it would be so good for our country to have you standing there, toe to toe at these debates with these 2 gentlemen and not just you, but others as well who may have a little different perspectives and they're being denied that and i,

for one believe the more voices the better. and that's the reason maybe we're not growing as you. and i said earlier, um professor, thank you for taking time. there's always the bless the nobel then used a strong absolutely is always a joy to be in conversation with him and god bless you and your loved ones, my. your good man. thank you so much. god bless you as well. that's our show. remember to always look outside your own box is truths, don't live in boxes. we like to say around here. i'm rick sanchez and we'll be looking for you. next time, the

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