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of no idea what they're doing or the color story with videos and by selectively and showing the pictures. they control any story they want and there seems to be no control over, you know, ground truth. and i find it rather shocking, but the new york times has really become an extraordinarily unreliable source on anything that's international. well, of course it was the media celebrating the $75.00 yeah. or anniversary of nato and held in washington with all of these. well, the lead is propaganda, machine info flow. what do you think of the state of nature was all the gentlest, including those from the new york times. the swans around saying now is the time to confront russia, china, iran? i don't know how many other countries. well, 1st of all of here's, here's a delusion, every aspect of this whole thing. because if you look at the ukraine war and i've
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been following it on the date daily basis, be the russians are overwhelming. the ukranian forces and they are inflicting tremendous casualties on these forces. and it is clear that the russian strategy is to cause a tremendous amount of attrition on the crating and forces a dd to a weakening so great that when russia bend chooses to go on the off ends on options in this case be just take territory because they're not trying to take territory, but they're trying to do is reduce ukrainian forces to, to, to shout, to, to go. so what they were, and they're so treating very well. i think they're probably 550000 casualties and
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the credit in force and bullies are, it's hard to know what the russian casualties are, but they are much lower in spite of the car into the country. and the reason for that, there are numerous reasons for that. the russians have complete control of the air over the line of combat, which means that they can deliver munitions anywhere. there's a, a need for a powerful bomb of some time to destroy a fortified position. and they have a $10.00 to $1.00 advantage in artillery. and artillery is the big chart in this kind of war, about 60 or 70 percent of the casual things are typically caused by artillery not not on farms. and this is tremendous advantage in or calorie
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is is profound because nato nato cannot produce much more than $30000.00 or maybe $40000.00 a $155.00 millimeter howitzer shells a month right now in russia is producing 10 times rather than in charles, which of course are under the lincoln, i'm sure to which of course, and the blinking secretary of state would say and has been saying at the nato, a conference in washington this week. that's why and he himself is a consultant before becoming secretary of state. west exec cannot, consultancy defense companies said we're going to give f sixteens to control the air as well as the aaa of defense systems. so how will that change the conflict? well, partner mr. blinking should know a little bit of well doesn't unfortunately,
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but we have 16 is not going to make any difference at all. as far as i control the it's it, it doesn't have a lot of, i mean it has significant ability to carry bombs, but it's no rush or an air defenses become dominant in this area and they shoot down claims like crazy in you're 16 is not going to be any better and avoid being shot down. then a relatively modern, you know, russian or sylvia chat. if you want to call the draft that the, the gradients have been trying to operate near craft will be destroyed on the term back in the near fios, which are now under regular attack of from long range missiles. yes, explains, will be shot down over the horizon from beyond the horizon of the
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russian air defense systems. because the russians have a tightly coordinated system of airborne radar. so you're just like are what a wax are airborne warning and control systems. those radars can see you have 6 needs well beyond the curvature of yours when you're on the ground and they can immediately send all the information to the ground uh to the ground air defense or for it to launch a very powerful, giant interceptor that can fly with can reach out to be almost 400 kilometers and engage have 6 name that we have 6 name is not even going to know. it's under a track. what's gonna happen is this uh, this giant dealership that will fly at 1st under a ballistic trajectory,
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trading the altitude for speed. and it will not turn on. it's a determining rate or until the very light time. and it will be arriving at such high speed as a pilot will not even know you're under attack. or even if they know that roger attracted will have no time at all to react. and the russians have been using this very successfully to shoot down a ukrainian aircraft and upsets me and it's not going to be any more impervious to this. then. uh, then the, the aircraft that the gradients, i've already been using this, oh, the a pull is in washington. what i found just wasting taxpayer dollars of nato countries. then you'd say, i mean, if you believes it in ski rush or deliberately hit the children's hospital in the past few days, if you believe propaganda, media like the bbc, comcast sky news, cnn, and all these kinds of propaganda stations. they say actually russia is famed for its poor targeting during this ukraine war. and that's why the children's
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hospitalization, because the russians say it was ukrainian defenses that hit the children's hospital, so catastrophic. well, i mean it's, it's hard to know my, my guess is that this building was unfortunately hit with a russian rock. that's my guess. i want. i want to use the word. yes. and then the reason i believe that is not because of any videos i've seen of rockets coming in there in the x direction. some pretty interesting videos of these cruise missiles arriving. but that's because the level of damage at the local level is much larger than you would expect from an air defense interceptor hitting the building. so i'm going to collapse the whole building, whatever it and now whatever it was intentional or not, i don't believe for a minute or 2nd that it was intentional. and uh,
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we certainly have situations like what occurred as the rest of the cold where it leaves a tack of units ease, uh, uh, bomb like, uh, dropping the missiles that were fired. the rest of the pope was killed and injured a large number of people on the beach. and i don't believe that was intended, but i think it would be the comes up supply by the united states. uh, that killed all those civilians killed or injured a 100 people in the on that crime in beach was because they were trying to attack civilian target downtown. so basketball because daily the u. s. u. k, u back ukranian forces are attacking and civilian targets in belgrade and elsewhere . the russians say they're attacking military facilities and deny, of course, that it was the russian as well. but i actually looked at the trajectories involved and i tend to agree that it looks like the, the re vessel that dropped the bomb lights on the beach was very likely heading
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toward the north central region. those have asked the pole which is not a military area. and so i don't think the russians were clear enough on the trajectories of reason coming rockets. but what i could tell, based on what was said and, and, and from the locations of the launch points and, and the accident to, uh, the trustworthy. if you want to call it, but it does, it does appear that the rockets were a that's a 1000000000 areas and one of them got hit the damage. the others were apparently shut down, but one of them got damaged and it fell short. and it released all these bonbons and faster but loss if you were shooting at a further south that downtown area. like if you're shooting at that area, there's
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a mini what, where a russian uh, naval vessels. uh, what would be the more and but what i don't know why you would shoot at those naval vessels using bomblets because the bomb let's just land on the decks of vessels and exploding it there. if there's, if there's cro longer back though, it'll kill or injure them, but they won't destroy the ship, not at all because of you know past, i'll stop you that more from be for my find difficulties. engine depends because naval operations cheap after this, right. the for them mean forget to when it comes to that even more than defend donasia that they just to counter rush. and i think the simulations going to that are very, very aware of the fact. and they try to use that uh,
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notion for data on the as a how are they a cps? because they kept the store i visited and then use familiar. e mail futures great to fit into the rules. the nazi theory of racial superiority, finished style for years of creating an ssl all the place and 14 concentration comes. so the full prisoner of war labor comes 10. prisons say well, you know,
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think she's the media venue. so i'm assuming you need even the chest, the leading enrollment i couldn't lift against. i'm assuming people's going to city . and approximately 25000 people went through the kind of go finish camps according to official figures. these move stuff, dudley level. if the ship did utility and i gave you an idea nauseous as the slightest of sarah youngest, i'm in your world founded in disease, forced labor torture by the war some formulas. what was the last? it also need you to continue the city available? if you're off with those who put in these 9, push these things up to give you what you want to do to create the, those thousands of testimonies of crimes and the impunity of criminals. when you look on here, you know, one or 2. so do to speak, it's not even a good idea of what they're going to see to release the apartment they decided to discuss with you. please don't. so you can just you, because you put this danielle,
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that was put in the mood along the of the welcome back to going on the guy not affiliated with the mit professor emeritus of science, technology and international security and following scientific advisor to defend against naval operations. chief professor, tempo, so you know, you were saying in part one about the children's hospital attack, you were talking about the attack, them's attack and cry. me a as regards targeting of these, uh, nato nation weapons in this 75th and the 3 a party week in washington dc. does the united states have boots on the ground in ukraine to target? these miss, i'll say, with the one that uh, killed or injured a 100 people on a beach civilians on a beach is around my 6 on the ground. is it special forces? i have no way of knowing, i would put it past the under the c i a are among ships to be on the
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ground. unfortunately, both of those agencies have a long history of being a rogue government for both the rich and americans. so we have the secret c i a, which is now interfering with the western press. i mean, these guys are, you know, paying journalists to what evidence would you have to see a paying west a journalist. the job is, i know i have to say, i mean, i spent a long time in the bbc they would do this. the i is meeting with no need for any extra money. well, you have, i mean i'm thinking of the group that i tangled with the uh, this guy deleon, higgins, who, uh, billing cash for to pay for 2 years. this organization called bell and got it. and it's just a bunch of people were making it up as the go along and they have
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money. so my understanding from outside sources and to make big, i'd be correct. i don't, i don't know where this money would be coming from. let's just support a group of people like this, but the tool they live is they've attacked this program while we invite any of higgins on any time to task about to to answer about where is the source of funding is. but you said the attack comes that hit the beach in crimea will look to target to the civilian areas. and he has a vast apple with this of needed targeting. i know you said that the patriot missile batteries many more which of which are going to be sent according to the nature conference in washington dc. this we, they need us boots on the ground to help with the targeting. i'll be honest with you. i, i don't know about the direct them to the patriots. i need to be banned by people who are trained and it's hard for me to understand who's operating these patriot
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events. if 0 or not, if you know your gradients to have to be trained in the training does take some time and the destruction of patriot units about the russians which has been going on for quite a while, almost certainly kills a lot of people who operate these air defense system, so i don't know where the ukrainians are getting retrain personnel. now maybe they get them trained to outside the head of time, expecting them to die. or just don't know. now you are one of the world's pre eminent military uh, scientists. you know, like doctors range love though. i know that people can watch our interview with the, with the sandy goober. do with their own regular channel. uh you, uh, we've had a string of film or us military officials. horrified about the attack on russia's nuclear, early warning systems. what was your 1st thoughts when you heard or read? so these are the landscapes troops as an ascii soldiers had targeted rushers early
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warning. you to systems are actually immediately, immediately wrote to jeffrey sachs a. oh, yeah. and, and copied a whole bunch of people because of the i was in the street. well jeffrey sachs advises the middle of this. you know, he was horrified to you as well. he drives as the secretary general of you and so i wanted to make sure that jeffrey knew so that he could alert the secretary general them whatever mechanisms they have. it could be one could be for that you know, activated. but i have been studying the russian early warning system for decades. it's not the only thing i do. thank god, but uh uh, it stems from a concern i had from the days i was in the pentagon because i was in the category that was very suspicious that the russian early warning system was not up to the
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job. when i was independent on it, i didn't trust the intelligence pharmacy. it just didn't look right. and when late many years later, i analyze a false alert accident that occurred in russia. and to a series of um, detailed analyses. it became clear that the russians did not have a space based global surveillance system. now let me explain what that means. so united states has satellites, what are called geosynchronous orbit? so those orbits, or an high altitude and the orbital rotation is once every 24 hours along with your below. so the satellite appears to be stationary over. oh, oh, you know,
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above the ground courses, it's very far out. it's about 40000 kilometers in space. and the satellite looks down and it could see the hot exhaust blue vessel when it's watched over ballistic missile when it's launch. so for example, if the united states lost one of its fairly wandering radars, we could immediately use the satellites to determine that nothing was happening happening and that potential attack card russians do not have use capability. it is not because they haven't tried and have a lot of detailed analysis and historical data that shows they made a significant effort. and incidentally, it's not because they don't know what they're doing. i've been a whole bunch of russian satellite experts. it was very clear to me that they're probably give your people is extremely high, your scientific capabilities, but they don't have the electronics. and they to read sensing technologies that
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they need to be able to look down straight at the ground and, and in, and see the small signal from a rocket to against the right reflections of sunlight of cloud tops. so filter they completed the, depended on any warnings. i mean you don't, you think it was a, is a landscape marshals and landscape those because of the elected anymore. you will issue to collections. it was a ukrainian or as off, not see a line the group tactic rather than any kind of collaboration with the bite and administration would surely, well count and, and such as drag is it's hard for me to know because we're dealing with actors who are really largely ignorant and i mean, i include mr. blake and mr. barton and mr. sullivan. i've dealt with white house people over the years and they never,
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they never know anything about the us early warning system. get along the russians . they just don't know. they don't get briefed on it for reasons. there is a whole lot of discussion about government failures, of government communicate into internal communication. part of the reason i asked jeffrey to uh cuz he has people you can contact at the white house that he tells them immediately. they talk to, you know, they extend the information to the white house. because i doubt that anybody in the white house understood how dangerous this attack on this radar was, because the russians would have no ability to understand what could be happening in that particular direction. i mean, how capable is the united states for all its early warning using the satellites? and they've actually been reliant on the law must sell increasingly lately, because it got seem to low into the satellites of intercepting how cable is the
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united states of intercepting a russian nuclear warhead. in any case, i know they said that the north korean miss, i'll was um, invincible, against current to us, we are okay with the united states. actually with united states has no capability to ship any ballistic much some sense. that's why when people talk about all these hypersonic missiles and new, you know, for a long range attack. so i, i kind of laughed to myself because i said they can't intercept the ballistic missiles. we cares about ivers on it. so it doesn't need to be a console with uh, with the new pay or, i mean the united states has no defenses against no, none at all. sure. how does that come to be that you are uh you are g scientist and the advisor at the pentagon. there you were naval operations didn't no one think under reagan and success of presidents, this might be something that needed to be looked at rather than the projects when you were planes that there's never worked well. i mean,
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for the long range ballistic missile defenses, missiles that are, are flying in space against the united states. if we're, we're attack would, would be in the near vacuum of space. and it would be a high altitude then, in that environment, a rock and a feller will travel together because there's no error than amick drag to cause a heavy object. is that a light object to slow up relative to a heavy object? to all you need to do is put the blown up. you know, it doesn't even have to have the shape of a warhead, because all you see from a distance is a, is a spot of a warm, you know, a warm signal. i shouldn't be laughing professor, but of course the chinese balloon was because we are talking about again and we always say, what do you try is that the chinese balloon got over then the met, whether to learn as much i need school. right. and so, you know, belong,
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and you can have hundreds of balloons, a company, each ballistics, forehead. it's very, very easy to make for space. and it can wait, frank anxious or you know, few ounces. and the system has no way of understanding what it's looking at. okay, well finally a very, very briefly then if the united states isn't uh, is destroyed beforehand and you, capitals, you expect, certainly the ukraine in its present form will not exist after the current uh, complex is over and, and you believe that you realize all this because there's no room for independent thoughts and in washington at the moment. well, i could use nato. the way i see the nato celebration which i've been watching, part of this is a kind of feel sick and ill when i've watched this because i see these people deluding themselves into believing that they winning
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a war and that they have already lost. there's no question they've lost it. you don't terms of, you know, the russians give it any time decide to take the rest of your grade. it would be very fast because there's no army left english. but actually don't wait til to continue destroying the final remnants of ukrainian army. so when they choose to take the rest of your grant, so they'll be minimal. russian casualty, that's what you're trying to do is keep your cache and things that make sense from their point of view. so i'm looking at this, requiring the celebration in, in washington. and it's, it's, it's, it's kind of disgusted to be honest, because these are people who are in positions of responsibility. they make decisions that costs human lives. those human lives are not only ukrainian or russian, such as a war that is going on down for no purpose because it's over. russians getting in
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to any time they choose. i'm just a knocking down what's left of the door and walking through. and then you have a president is already have you got, it's very clear. he's not competent. houston's got something seriously wrong with him. and, and i wonder how much is going on before it's become very clear, because when he talks about is whether it will be a good, it's kind of astonishing. next, you know, he's bragging about converting nato from a defensive organization, which it was up until the 19, like 1980 to 1990. you do a highly regressive offer to organization that has cause a war that did not have to happen, where
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a tremendous number of people are being killed and injured. in any talks, you got an interview just a few days earlier where he actually presented himself as, as the leader of the world who was managing the whole world. he actually said this, i just cringed when he said this and then i'm thinking of, of, of, of record yahoo in. gotcha. and slums is nose advise, went by, you makes an empty statement, stop killing all these innocent people. because i mean, he has no influence of any time and then he's progressed himself. buttons is big, important figure. last of all this control. and if he starts, what we're trying, i want to go out of my way to make this point. united states will lose that war professor that also thank you and that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences
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