work and projects and now so the market is offered to them maybe is not enough. they want more. syria is closer to has much, much more need for a to kish expertise and structure building on a construction and other issues like yeah, i mean does like sides we heard from the uh well the toughest for me it is. uh uh, previously mentioned this, this is, i mean, you said saudi arabia we'll get involved with the negotiations. we also had the iran and rush, i will also participate in helping a, uh, the negotiators what, how do you think these totals will go? do you think um, aside will welcome the involvement of all these uh countries. i guess i don't know about the other countries, but i know that i said very much to embrace the initiative. so the already being

presented to that, to him and invited him to get that to attend for the 1st time in a long while and the so i'm just conscious then there was steps to clinic what was wrong and to reengage c area and into the font and so the idea in a very good position, since it's the one who came up with this initiative and to get cecilia back into the other words to, to help with this uh, your on. uh, maybe it's dr trumping to punch in the bucket of the solution also. uh, i'm on the rush of course have a good relationship with both factory so they might be also able to help you. the problem is that it's not just an issue with the government, it is complicated and rushes there are on is there. so i,

i think every body was envelopes and syria would like to have a see even america might want to office. it provides a lot of a all coming. so we know the sun media out as a know, did that previously afraid relations between syria and saudi arabia being restored for a broader improvement of relations. but if over all, for the reason you said yes, everybody wants to have a say, perhaps during the negotiations, are they likely to even include the usa of this? what will they know oscar usa to leave? well, the problem is maybe the usa has a different track on this issue. they weren't study happy when we invited the syria to the summits. there weren't very happy when we took steps to include 3, include syria into the articles. so i'm not sure syria would be a and to the,

to get to the american on board over the russian. this, you guys are here on. so it's the americans have bots of syria. i have been impulse for since the beginning of the ocean and syria, but i don't think they are. we come to the clubs right now. yeah, it's interesting and it would have to leave it as i late but very interesting. solve it. that's hope. peace does come to the region like again, via time, provides a holiday, but trying to see thank you again. thank you. bye. well, but rob some of this and he was i'll, i'll see, don't com, great place to go. next will be back in about 30 minutes. the

know energy is a fundamental indicator of highway already going to be storing. probably when this does vision of in the is of a board and of any and vicious roofing. i think the more the government things back up today. we've all become victims of fire stick politics brings a logic kind of us. that's all the russian federation, cooperation is an exceptionally important. you said you're buying a so much. i said i bought it from whoever sends me at the most competitive price. why does it bought the? i don't think it does the hello and welcome my name is unable to make them do my show better for the next half an hour. we will discuss all the things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician who served as india as permanent, the representative to united nations and had 4 administrative positions today.

subbing of india minnes dropped petroleum and natural gas. they completely put it. here are the party was born in delhi in 1952. he got his master's in history from del university and joined and used for in service in 1974. during his remarkable diplomatic career, she has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indians permanent representative to the you and in geneva and in new york to join the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed minister of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 mister o positions at the same time. she is currently serving, administered petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to. i 1st i met you in new york, and now you had, here's chatting about life. you come from

a diploma family, the low disability and not to a joyce that to me to get into this. i don't think i ever exercised a choice as of 12 in terms of career. and i wanted to be a diplomatic because my father was in the ministry of extending the 1st. so that's a life i was born in to me. as a 4 year old child. i accompanied my father when he went on his 1st boasting to born in germany me. when i was 16 years old and joined the university. i was exposed to student politics. i floated with both the left and the item as we understand it, the normal language, and yes, i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma,

that could be a of 39 years. it's not that i exercise a choice that goes on most of that sort of lisp into the next phase of my life, which was the visa p. uh, i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact, an instance uh in 2008. uh, when i just come back from brazil, but i was an advisor to i would say country and daily. and i wanted to consider joining politics even then. i remember i went to the then leadership of the poppy and expressed an interest in uh, contesting the 2009 elections from bailey, the party, for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hens. hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative and

i had the privilege of presiding over this to go to pick on something. and then there was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he for, she's, yeah, was appointed. i was appointed to the brand. and as the advisor there also, so it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york. but when i came back in 2013 uh, what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra a ticket to find the looks of direction. i would have thought it did not find it right. they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed it comes up. but then before i knew what is happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017, and that's with nearly 70 s plus. what does the main difference between being a diplomat and a politician bigger but i'm just a movie and as a cabinet,

as unbelievable. lee brilliant diplomats down into ministers. and it speaks about his acumen also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know, and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i, i get nice about this. i usually get nice carefully, you know, just interest. i agonize about it. what mix a bus and able to navigate a diploma is just a look at it that i use ition. but i think a lot of civil 7 audio, an academic audio, or if i may respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and agree if it was a cinema this on streak that which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people, but your point of view across sit fanatic to reach out to your audience and that's part of the problem is what that's also part of what it takes. i mean,

i was reminded when i was very young as a 77 and we lost a very senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards politicians. he couldn't use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye had bureaucrats, he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the other facets of the same personality as to some people never make the funds of the time seen. you know somebody, but i think if you've been in any profession for 39 years as i was shortly, there must have been something we have to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people knowing how that. and the wonderful politics brings a logic and what's that's all i mean is a diploma you had accredited from one country to another. or if you want in the u. n, you are dealing with the member states, but political gotten this is much larger. so i think it also provides good training

now, but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get there? i think the probably when this does vision of india exhibiting board and how many alicia's rubin, because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you, what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25.00 trillion dollars as against. busy trillion the fortunately and all that. now, no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be doing. i know from g, if you ask anyone a question on any countries, consumption goes on, energy rising, are the declining at this table? if you give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption please. i don't want to start early with the facts,

but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil in a day, which is going into other science, 5000000 bottles in a day. this was of the good thing about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured has come up to 5330000. that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of how we are going to, in the next few years to look at them in google and consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next to tickets. next 20 years, 25 percent of the increase in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question and i apologize, we're giving you a long way and it on so it will come from several things. one, a massive increase in explanation and production. what happened is for. busy long

period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this one is 33 years ago. a lot of people in well place that the why do you want to import? oh, i do want to spend money on prospecting, but no, i think the more the government things better. and we have released out of the $3500000.00 square kilometres of said imagery basically would be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was noble area, has been released for prospecting. we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major oil companies in the world are now coming, wanting to invest here in the earlier george was, you know, a new government invest and if you find the oil and then we a sort of solving, right, this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in reason?

now we are willing to incentivize the invest upcoming and we are willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the obligation to look forward. we're going into biofuels and a very big with list of all the assumed responsibility. our total biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are doing 15 percent last month. really 50 percent. we're to thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go to green hydrogen in a big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, we will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean, they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 bottles of that. it will go up to even save and all that about is it going to be all done domestically?

domestic production will go up. the rest will be important and the up limited, but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and i do self sufficiency coming from solar . a big with green hydrogen, like i think green hydrogen is a fuel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that the solar we've already demonstrated that from 25 cents a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. then you need an electrolytes that we put that on the p a light scheme. so today i would say that all out of statements of re nitrogen for the next 5 years,

6 years 2030. all right, i'm gonna estimate i see green hydrogen exploding. i see biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to put the 40 percent 40 percent in mall. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve your aggregate for problem proven with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 gross because you save that money due to inputs. now when you do 20 percent blending, depending on the global price, it will give you a promise more today the biofuels that's an old feed is coming from sugar. okay, and it's coming from is it's coming from broken. for green, it's coming from agricultural waste. so be self sufficient energy in. yeah, part of that the prime minister in the side is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in part of that is making audits or why? but i think what is happening in the product is something which is

a combination. if i'm, if it's a submit of 3 fact, as we have gone from being apologetic about our development, the space we will under develop, bieber wondered, looked at it devices for and there's something remarkable that this happened. is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers in spirit, in us, a pride in our historical and civilizational boxed as a thing to say. and i think he believes that it's only countries which have free 10 bride in them says japan being a case in point of have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that at the one that's an additive, i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went anywhere, you know, they would look at india as a, as, as a country, which is, you know, maybe to be with the different art despise and you have

a long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying and just as a snake country upsize smith. i'm live in elephant and angelo divided up peoples by the all that, that be in the i position. absolutely. so then came along mr. i totally had a bunch, but i do my them a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing it for a long time and we couldn't get it out. the nuclear tests, which gave you a sudden edge in terms of once you have a new cleared attendance before they just like me. mostly it has been, but then the last 10 years have been remarkable in terms of the kind of economic product, the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small catalyst. they can provide some ideas, no matter which way you go in. and what used to happen is there is to say that that i said what i'm in the as out there, that is the flow and india, which is um, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and high,

they would be more than years of succeeded in doing this realization is we not been able to get that negative across the key is that the said the good governance is also good politics. so sort of all day until day and he's taken the develop the folks of development or the benefits of development to the buddhist to the farthest by which was by the way, the agenda of the sustainable development goes 2030, which came into being, i think, the 2016, but more than you'd already started in 2014, which means what? for good or for the 13 of us who is not. and i was saying version another 3. cool. if people didn't have cooking gas, he would give them cylinder. we'll draw out 10 grow. busy 28 black cylinders given under that would you are asking the metro system. know india is a country on the moon to day i metro system is guiding one drawer people, passengers, but they but today are open. population is just over 30 percent and we had 1400000

people, so 30 percent. by the time we do 50 percent of a population, that will be 800000000 people living in india. so you would need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd largest in the world, a little bit to south korea, japan and the united states, which is that $1560.00 of them. and the point i'm making is it's not one thing you bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital imaging and financial intrusion . and we can, let's go, was all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of the pen to me in and of itself. we have one country in the world, which declared the loved them quickly. also, because if it's a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lively, will do kind of slides. and then we came out of it also quickly, but it was like all indigenous to be manufactured vaccines. not only provided what

something like 220 quarter vaccine, those as 2 people in india more most feet. what do you want to supply to a 100 other countries? so today, you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know, but g is a replica both on a larger scale in the global south, in, in africa and latin america, even in parts of centrally shots such as and central europe also. so india has come up, you look at the automobile and do the, but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to be nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things. civilizational fast, they think development now and then embracing technology, digital and all that with a religious. well, i'm phasing, do you feel that in the see the list and the word from a huge economic model down into 1020 to absolutely how you see when the military operations to produce. so if you're talking about 5 of the $22.00,

let's look at the hard facts. the hot fact that these actions regulation produced 13000000 barrels of crude oil in a day. if you what i'm gonna say, hope that hypothetically, if you were to take the position that a little bit annoying boards or purchases from the shop, then it's done. so he's been thought of putting wheeling bottles which was being produced and consumed. whatever we purchased from somewhere else, where it was, it would have been purchased from, from the other supplies. so just imagine if the doors were supplying the global total was about a $120000000.00 bottles of it would take $13000000.00 barrels off. it is the other matters, it will be a more pressure on that, which means the price went up short up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception was that, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i see that with great a price i question, does it wait a minute? wait a minute. what are we discussing?

the oil, which comes to a pipeline from the russian federation to hungry is exempt from any such bulk. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china, is exempt sales from the cycling to japan and the parties that exam. so what is intended? again then slowly everybody's that? no, no, it's not that it's best that you should buy. then they impose the price gap. i have been saying to a lot of my friends all over the world, i don't want to name any country. you said, go buying a so much. i said, i bought it from whoever sends me at the most competitive price because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store revenue. so they will be short and, and they will say, we want to disagree or divide. anyone wants to compete can complete them, but then, but in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good argument. rush of it only 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last

month it was over $35.00 nearly 40 percent. so why does it bother the, i don't think it does. the rest, it doesn't bundle on the bank for the winter and also in the us. how come nobody mentions that please the political limited move or is know that is i it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them know medic, a large oil farm and who have suddenly find all that we know. and if you can provide a cheap, we will so know these things will go up and down. power the imports to a large lead from saw the end, it'd be, uh, the minutes go with it out. what i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone what they have their problems are they? what's that? i want us to buy an oil at the competitive rigs. but that's an entirely different discussion. and i know the construction is under before the new reactors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any reading? i can tell you, we've been to

a very fascinating phase in our approach to energy doing them. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new nuclear energy ideally shouldn't be a source of providing a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an index specific safeguards agreement. we did all these things, etc. but it's always been what took off and that or not, but idea of the russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of cooperation with the slide soviet union. in many fields, i mean defense you know, energy now the nuclear etc is extremely important. and we greatly evaluate, so what are in the us key objectives or it's engagement in the categories and in terms of energy, energy, as defined in the broadest possible times, broad as possible. and i mean new look forward, whatever energy you can get, we can all but today, you know, the new and new mix you're going to be looking at,

read some of those, all that. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country has gone off the mark earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere. and i believe that somebody's vision production and supply lines would industrialize. and countries which are large markets, well it has to be the saw. so we'll also need to say no buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying, say what 5 or 6000000 barrels a day. you know, how much on, while it would be in way would be the organ advised me. i mean you up on lodge biased or to china and india and you have others. but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in with the advent of other hob hybrids, biofuels coming in, green hydrogen, etc. the one that's changing. but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future, this kind of energy mix is something we will need to be anchored in photo wise. how does, how do they put a, relax, a very good question. the question may assembly of oh,

why doesn't have to be put in the lab? so i mean i've, i've, no, i, i do a, i go to the next person venue. i know that i'm relaxed otherwise, but the know by relaxed i think you had a very positive construct under like some is the switch off. switch off. today we've all become victims of the technology before you sleep. but prototype in one at night, you're looking at the messages when you get up in the morning. first thing is you're looking at amazon. so i think taking a time off. well, that's not going to happen just now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to work and i don't think he is bigger than a 100. and did you want? does a task master done that's up to you? i mean, he has a lot of lot lot, a lot of people working for him. i don't think everyone shows what drives to respond to that lucas or letting me i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what else do you want us to know who is it or how does it out and i received him in the and in geneva,

when i was loan and representative. but the point is that i think this one has progressed over the last few months, has been particularly hectic because it's a lot of 85 b election campaign. actually we were working in the election more. do you in for 6 months earlier? so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think uh, what needs to before. uh. i don't think you know, i but i, i think it is, it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch a feeling or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i'll go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. well actually it was here. i would invariably watch netflix also. uh, you know what? a lot of movie and, and uh, both of us and both of us read quite a bit. thank you. of the 1980 and i guess mike and thank you for watching. joining

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