the, the hello and welcome to prospect bullhorn john peter lavelle. here we just got some real news. the attempted assassination of donald trump tells us all we need to know about the extreme tensions that make up american politics. sadly, america has a long and deadly history of political violence. the country's political culture is simply toxic. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess your to send me while we in budapest, he's a pod counselor at the goggle, which be found on youtube and locals. at americas we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that goes in effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. right, let's start out with george in budapest as usual. george, we called this one. we had been saying for a very long time because of the, um, the perceived um, extremes of american politics that something like an attempted fascination could happen. well, it is already happened. so what does this tell you in a,

how does this change the dynamics if at all, go ahead george. that's what it says of the election. i think the dynamics so we simply don't know, does he have how that is going to affect the outcome? but this was entirely predictable because of the movie theater, years and years of, of on the side. oh, harold, hysterical of coverage of trump. i mean, so i mean the media and contributed to this. um, absolutely ridiculous, hysteria, but of course all the patients. and chiefly president, by the who has repeatedly is declared that this doesn't exist then shall matter. but the united states that, you know, trump poses the next essential for activity that says he has been saying this since 2019. and that's remember even before that the trunk was a q is essentially by much of the media. and again, much of the, the democratic party of having been an agent of the kremlin level as it was

a traitor. and it goes when you go to somebody afraid so that when you say that that person is literally add all hip left. well, what happens is the, the, the amazing thing that it's taken this long for something like this to happen. and, and, but what is really disgusting, is all these politicians mancy below. oh, see chuck schumer, i can you geoffrey by and so now say will we wish trump very speedy recovery political violence has no place and now this goes, well, you're golden. i don't feel well if he is out of it. but why would you be wishing him speed you recover it? so obviously you were lying and you would just been basically pulling the american people by golding of ablest oh, this was exactly what you were hoping. what happened? the son, you know, young a young man up active as of as asking was of the 20 years old. when say i go to save the world from idle hipaa. so you know, this, we did it quite

a disgusting box is now going on. you know, martin ya, you've already seen the picture, which i wrote that send it to you. it's icon make. it certainly is iconic. it's probably been seen by over a 1000000000 people already around the world. and it's like into like the flag on you will. jima, i mean, or some of the civil rights movement images we have assassinate other assassinations. but the way i read that the picture is that the way his supporters, i mean, they feel his literal pain. they feel who did the persecution, this ridiculous law fair against them. there's probably a, a 1000000 good reasons to dislike donald trump. but the, this persecution of him in fury yates people and people that maybe not have a very strong political attitude. they literally feel this man's pain. i think so. yeah, and i think of that and they will be beyond the political camp and they will be

a number of the swing swing voters are undecided versus from the other side as well . who now i've seen the, which one, they've seen the court cases and they don't believe it, but i believe what they're saying. they know that there's significant ended up behind all of this. and george's, absolutely right. because the hysteria that's been wit top against from i think it was this the fucking pm who just treated just a few minutes ago. he said something along the lines of, you know, it was an image for single day. so when you put the guy down so much, that a member of the public was going to do the job and stuff up some ok and then take the short, i'm paraphrasing, didn't say exactly like that, but you get to point to not, not you have to ask yourself um, the security of this, but these events, i mean, you know, i don't want to be a, here's a be a conspiracy theorist, but no one has to one the, with the, with the which on the i mentioned before with the, with the amount of cases that have been brought against from the up to wonder whether the deep state also perhaps arranges for the security of these events to be so poor. because it's only a question of time sooner or later before it comes to like america with some crack

pulled, brings along a $100.00 rifle and, and takes a few shots of a this guy. i mean, i think it was an image for that. we should be so shocked by it, especially when you look at the video footage, which came online just minutes late to of 3 security late to use f. b, i ladies with the very start is a dock losses who were just running around the heads of chickens. i mean, it was literally pissy for watching these 3 ladies. one couldn't host or weapon properly. another ones was more concerned about the sunglasses incorrectly to look cool. in the behind them was the smoke close to that and you know, taking something away and it was just a few letters to be honest. so you're going to also sort of questions. but i think the broad question, the bigger question is we haven't lives in these thomas before that some phenomena is entirely new grounds. i just don't, unprecedented. i don't think the bigger question is, is this a small taste of things? companies that have typically ice book, you know, we, we all been bracing us of wondering when we're not so confident we're, we're pretty confident that somebody's gonna win the will,

the country will america, i'm tentacles of all the power within it. allow him to win. you know, you're off on november, the 5th, you know, we're going to see thousands of people take to the streets with the $100.00 rifles or worse. well, but i think martin, i think it's pretty fair to say, i'll throw it to george right now. whatever the outcome half the country is not going to agree with it. that's where we are. george. no, that's. that's exactly right. that'd be the other half of the country will not agree with this. and even, even, even if he is alexis as possible, he will, he be inaugurated george. will it be another piece like that? that's right. and i mean, we'd already know and this, because he's adding to the hysteria, that if the democrats do capture the house, they will not satisfy the result. this is something that they've already said they will know sorted by the result as though it's entirely dependent on the republicans taking the house. we're trying to be installed as president. and, you know, even if he is still the president,

we're going to get full years of this and really lives with the, you know, there's a lot of training now in recent years of assassination of, i mean, russell if there's any weeks ago we were talking about this estimation of time, phone robot fits so um, you know, the, we had the, uh, the assassination attempts at the, the, the congressional bowl game that was in 2017. we had them fascination of them from them. the supreme court justices kind of on the so they were in all of these events are good. the direct result of the if you scenario that is being uh, went up by that besides the democrats and their of media allies. and so therefore, if the truck does become present, that isn't going to stop. so, so like this is this, the, they, they've determined that this is all of this is the existence loses existence like it. deep. so repeating this, somehow, america kind of survive. donald trump,

remember that a horrible person, mr. victor newland. uh victor, victoria, mr. victoria newland robert kagan wrote in an all pad in the washington post. and we talked about this. it was about 5 to 6 months ago, which was pretty much cooling for this explanation of trump. they just said this man is such a exist central thread. we can't stop him. this is like, this is julia sean's a. you know, this is the only way the way we do it, we're going to deal with him is the way they deal with julius caesar. so this is, he doesn't affect the business how, what the, how the political establishment is thinking. and indeed, as mafia said, there are serious reasons or as questions about the security elapses there. i mean, it's explicable, absolutely no real questions. well, i, it's, it's really quite remarkable. martin is that we this is and i'm glad you brought up the flow of our prime minister. i mean, this is what we see all across the west and world. everything is x a central. if everything is x essential than anything and everything is permitted

because it's, you know, it's to be or not to be. this is a, you know, it. and it's obviously very reminiscent of a civil war and in the united states. but this is a civil war that's being played out across the west as well. yeah, but it is like stuff. so, and unfortunately what i witnessed in, in my career and the last of the use of john and it says how western countries have become more and more the piece with systems become simplified binary. they become binary. and they become, you know, very much a simplified black and whites and choices for people. and i think this has been accelerated by the advent of social media. but also martin, don't you think what doing lyft thinking about the elections in france and then the u. k. and then the european parliament just, you can win a lot of votes, but you don't get too many seeds. so i mean, it's becoming more and more part of the is the system is rig system is right. i mean that the to the west of democracy, the less than democracy and it's models,

plural um on. okay, so not functioning anymore. you know, so you're getting the votes to the bottom, the books, the people know that the vote is very much in token part of the whole thing. you know that, that needs to be something else to hold politicians accountable. and um, so you know, uh, especially some attempts that public valleys in america, it's certainly something that surprises us assassination attempts in western leaders like just to back in pm. perhaps this is going to be something that we're going to see more render a grandmother in the press because, you know, as i say i, i think the confidence is just waning now. you know, we were looking for an alternative level of the present one, you know, just just don't seem to what we're looking at nature for example, which just celebrate his birthday, you know, some pundits of all use. well, the basis of may so 75 years ago it was a particular name one. i mean, the idea that the soviets had this ministry threat against us, i'm going to wipe us out the same argument, same, essentially some, you know,

st. absolute unqualified on viruses, uninstall the absolute explanations which was suppressed a smaller with the well, i mean, in never. and given a democratic testing or, you know, george is really interesting is the way when we look at these elections, but your participation legitimize is the outcome. but not your decision. you see what i'm saying is that the, no, it's the we have a we have a vibrant but when democracy because people vote but it doesn't. that doesn't deal with the outcome of the vote church. no that that's right. i mean that, and that's why there is this gunston manny attempt to get everyone to vote to tell you always really, really voted your vote. you're most about, you know, that's your duty as a citizen to vote. and then, and i think was a little why what, what difference the going to make and why we're getting lead is that we don't want to, you know, to attend. that is that we don't want any effect this level. the problem with this or the western democratic model, is that it's just based on a long, prentice, which is we have to keep out the other guy. the other guy is an existing show

threat that that's all, sir. we don't, we don't actually and promise you anything. we don't have a positive program. we don't, we don't, we have no idea how to improve your life. but that person, that person is literally hitler, and we have to do whatever we can in order to keep them on a box. and this is what we're doing. this is what is the, whether it's united states, whether it's prompt. oh, it is in germany. and i get very soon, it will be the case in the u. k. where, you know, the, the, the, the, it, the, the, literally, hipaa will be natural garage or we have to keep them out. otherwise democracy will come to an end. yeah. everything. when, when everything becomes, uh, existential, then everything is legitimate any uh, everything is on the table except for the recognition of the democratic process. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real need to stay with r t, the part of rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch

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they're crocodile tears. means it's pretty hard to believe. i mean, we went through this whole debate vs go, we all were told that he knew joe biden is just the jim dandy, you know, sharp is attack and all of that. and then we see what happened and then they do a flip. and now there's pretending that they never demonized donald trump. there are plenty of reasons to dislike donald. trump don't get me wrong, but you know, to turn around now and say don't, we don't want anything a, any, we don't have any ill feelings we do. we don't have any hope for a disaster do to come across him, but that's not true. it's all likes. very good. it exactly, it was all lies. and it was done precisely in order to whip up. this is very, i mean, you call just as i say, well, you know, this isn't really what we meant. we, we're in the business of civil discourse. i think obama issues, when we need, we need civil discourse. they're all we don't and there's no, no, no wrong. so violence. how does the civil disclose?

and we will remember that to then defend that solemn events with the red lights that the by the i call it the mussolini moment. you know, silly name over the which it was saying that, you know, and the, during the stripe was not just one trunk from child support, which is and then being on hon most of the beginning of a biden's term. he was talking about the set, the existential threat posed by all sorts of, you know, characters that we, we could go the, all the, you know, the, the ad cfax is the white supremacists, the white national is the mag, i'll follow is. that is now they've been playing this political game really, you know, for years and years. and of course, something like this is going to happen to now does go down the road, is what we wish him a speedy recovery. this. what's the mileage you decide is out all hibler and he's going to in democracy, but his agenda is to end democracy. now you wish you must media regarding why would

you wish him a speedy recovery? he's only going to end democracy according to you know, martin the, the, the way the rhetoric is been played out and it's almost getting close to 10 years. and that when you think about it, okay, almost 10 years is that there is no middle ground. there is no compromise, everything is a pure a t test. okay. you can't run a democratic society like that for very long. it's huge nissan. and i think the, the, the situation that we're not in america where we have a choice of these 22 liters who are both quite controversial, quite polemic for different reasons. i think the system is quite limited in the system. it may, will be the, this particular election will spark are completely new processing the new process of dialogue from people right across this whole section of society to ask, you know, can we do something about the system? can we create a system which is more on more liberal, more put not certain,

which it looks at as a set and more flexibility. in addition, for example, you know, we've, we've seen the emergence of kids to guest on who has basically taken control of the country with the lowest election to announce ever a. so people are starting to ask questions. you know, is it time for person to have a pen force the representation of voting system? i think i'm probably the america is on the right person. you don't have that protests vote. counts are in the middle. if you don't have a policy called the liberals, you know, it's all the one thing or the other. i mean, correct me if i'm wrong. but i think of this is really now more than ever will begin to see how this system is sustaining people. and you are quite right to say that, you know, it's very hard to imagine and come coming into power with at least half of the country. now obviously it's time into the beginning. well, come in. so my point, my point is somebody has to change and i think this is probably the breaking point . yeah, i mean it's because george, you mean elections,

they're becoming less meaningful. i mean, you, just, as you pointed out, you know, what, you know, things everybody has to vote, you know, we're a voter turnout. you know, this legitimize the election, but it doesn't happen that way. i mean, it's still, it's for voting to say in western media, but i mean, there are tens of millions of americans that don't believe the 2020 outcome. they believe that trump one in 2016. the one in 2020. and he's good. one went in 2020 thoughts except for they won't let him. they can just so you can to find that yourself. go ahead george. yes, that's, that's. that's right. and that's exactly how people will see it. and really, you know, this, this is estimation of the time comes after is the series of events. remember, you know, they try to take him off the ballot, but it's a color unheard of. you do that, that thing, somebody off of the ballot where you don't have a right to vote for this person. imagine, i mean the hosp, the country regard saying has the legitimate prison and then you said, well, no,

no we, we, we made a decision. if you don't have the right to vote, so i know none of you know, and attorney general in new york state decide that i'm just going to bankruptcy. i'm just going to take away the law of his money. and i'm going to come up with some convoluted ridiculous legal theory that has never been tried. and i know i'm going to get a sympathetic judge. i'm just going to take all his money away and they, and they tried to do it is only because they the, the court jumped in and said, well, you know, i'll give it, take it easy with, with, with, with this, say this money grab another because you know we have uh, you know, was the, uh, the in full indictments. i mean it's just unheard of, you know, years it's been a president. there's never been invited once and now we have full of time for an election. so this is the lowest 90 process in which you've got these political 5 is the absolutely determined to prevent the coming to plow of somebody will also the

country regards as their legitimately to, well, you know, all the way this is something fundamentally unstable situation. i mean, that, you know, as you may have, or that has to be some kind of a political consensus whereby, you know, you know, believe is accept outcomes and respectfully leader of the organization. now, what, what we had did during these last 2 and, you know, 24 hours easily off the he bunker as it english, the political, the stablish it pretends. well, that's the system. yeah, we all wish him well, a prez. i still want to impress that with these families of the i to the secure site at the moment is strictly this all these things. but ultimately, if we know we're going to go back with a few weeks, we're going to go back to the uh, the, the trop hysteria m. i, you know, martin, it's, and i'm glad the judge brought up these frivolous lothair suits. because the in the liberals, they preferred rigs. jerry's, but i think the rest of us would prefer the jury of the electorate let they let the

electorate be the jury. now you've already explained to us the, um, the impediments in the u. k. i mean, i'm astounded by the, the outcomes of the french and u. k. a selection, i mean, just because you're with a lot of votes, doesn't mean you get much power jill. the think come when the case of trump is what's, what's really interesting for me is that this breaks down this sort of from the crumbling of this foundation of what we believe since so long with the foundations of american democratic model. you know what people really believed to that they almost had originate reference to it in the forty's and fifty's and now it's crumbling and it's coming on both sides. you know, we talked about trump and this estimation time, it seems to me to invite him to come, don't need to buy some kid to, to sleep bite, some global company that we're not near. nobody's name here now. nobody's doing, it seems to be doing it a pretty good self assessment based or suicide on himself. you know, we were st. panic now in the whole system and the democrats are beginning to panic

in a different way. you go now i think 20 congressmen have written to, to, to but i'm saying look, you know, you know, we love you, but give it up. i think also the hollywood has been waiting and as well. people at george clearly read it was very diamond piece of the new york times. i mean, really touching base, my fingers spoke on behalf of a lot of hollywood products. you know, well, you know, i probably probably probably only, i really do not have the chair so that people like shepherds go any other say a hobby. what is so corrupt and it, it money, you know, money corrupts everything. so money coming from hollywood into the political process is just the script. you know, you don't judge what's really, what's really amazing to me. trump, it will be a dictator. he will shut down democracy. you know, refresh my memory. he was president of the dispute goes okay, i didn't shut down the media didn't shut down the trade unions. he didn't, it didn't go after hillary clinton. they made his own deal. jay went after him. meanwhile, this is just say, a narrative may add

a full song. it's not as if we don't know who the guy is. is that that's the amazing thing. because, you know, we've, if you look back on the trump, is it basically the golf and as a kind of a moderate centrist or a republican? i mean romney, derek. i'm at raleigh. i mean, yeah, you know, he brought in the tax schedule. every republican president, boy, those tax gods, i mean that's the signature policy of, or republican administrations. and it does have as far on all of say, well, they've promised all kinds of things. he never deliver it. so, you know, the, the whole idea always going to withdraw from need. so he's going to withdrawal from syria. he's going to withdraw him from afghanistan, and he didn't do any of those things. and they get over. he gets that even by the 0, you know, the over say, you know, i, i know founded by the no one here is the final violence please. the withdrawal from afghanistan and trump just sent that said, yeah, i'm going to do that. but he,

you know, ultimately he didn't go ahead with it. and so if you look back on those, he is just to take away his personality. he was a pretty, a centrist republic, a. so the hysteria has absolutely no basis whatever the whole this, like what you said made out of whole low, but the idea that he was pro russia, but he favorite brewton is just so stupid. so with the all this, well, the large was russia gauges back. ok, let's you know, you know, mind it's really interesting in looking at this campaign year. obviously there's a microscope scope on joe biden because of his mental acuity issues here. but, you know, you have to give credit where credit's due, trump has been running, and amazingly moderate to campaign was very, is very careful. he's, he's, he, he is, he's easy is got himself under control. and this is one. and now this, the campaign is completely turned upside down. again,

everyone's going to be focusing on a, was your rhetoric. it was your narrative, etc, etc, etc. and not on the policy is go ahead. i don't think i knew why. i think i knew why trump is that seems to be more so, but um, even even some of the rooms and at times when you would think he would rise to the bates and be more sensational. i think it's because he's got the media experts and, and they've looked at the types of things evaluated where he's gone wrong in the past. and you know, he's more, he's but he's between more media professional now. and the way that you can see the way that is, so evidence was it was what is the base with the bite? and then the other 2 t, the, the s plus told him you don't need to weigh and you don't need to throw your arms around and say, oh, these stupid insults. just let the guy bury himself on which, which is what he did, you know? so i think to there is, there was a new trump emerging, which is one who listens to his advice as well. and it's so clear the blind doesn't listen to any of his advisors setting up media, you know, and i think that's really going to make a difference. and it may will mean, made

a critical difference when it comes to the, to the votes and get to. but some i, i think we'll have to wait and see. and, you know, i think also um buttons got enough problems and the next few weeks. so, um, the democrats are telling me that there was a critical cut off point somewhere in the middle of august, where there will be no option any more to go with vitamin as well. but definitely with the, with the republican convention coming up. but there's going to be plenty for all of us to chew on here gentlemen, that as all the time we have, i want to thank my guest in budapest and in medication. of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are the see you next time. remember, prospect most, the least, russian states never as one of the most sense community best. nothing has all sense and up the

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