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no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be storing. probably when this does vision of india is a very bored and not really a vicious blueprint. i think the more the government thinks. but up today we've all become victims of fire stick politics brings a logic kind of us. that's all russian federation. cooperation is an exceptionally important, does it go buying a so much? i said, do i buy it from? whoever sends me at the most competitive price. why does it bother the? i don't think it does the to hello and welcome. my name is unimplemented. welcome to my show bed for the next half an hour we will discuss all the things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician was served as india as permanent representative to united

nations and had 4 administrative positions today, subbing of india, i mean this, trump petroleum and natural gas. welcome. how do we put it to pardeep party was born in delhi in 1952. he got his masters in history from delhi university and joined and used for in service in 1974. during his remarkable diplomatic career, she has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indians permanent representative to the you and in geneva and in new york, he joined the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed administer of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 mister o positions at the same time, he is currently serving, administered petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to. i 1st i met you in new york, and now you had here chatting about life. you come from

a diploma family, do both disability, not to choices that you made to get into this. i don't think i ever exercised a choice as of 12 in terms of career and i wanted to be a diplomatic because my father was in the ministry of extending the 1st. so that's the life i was born in to me as a 4 year old child, a higher company, my father, when he went on his 1st boasting to born in germany me. when i was 16 years old and joining the university, i was exposed to student politics. i floated with both the left and the item as we understand it, the normal language. and yes, i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma,

that could be a of 39 years. it's not the exercise of choice that goes on most of that sorted list. been to the next phase of my life, which was the visa p. uh, i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact an instance uh in 2008. uh when i just come back from brazil, but i was an advisor to and i was secretary and daily. and i wanted to consider joining politics even then i remember i went to the then leadership of the body and expressed an interest in uh, contesting the 2009 elections from delhi, the party for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hens hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing. then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative,

and i had the privilege of presiding over this to go to pick onto the deal was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he fought. she's yeah. who was appointed 5 of the point of the brand best design advisor that also so it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york. but when i came back in 2013, uh, what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra a ticket to find the looks of selection. uh, what if i did not find it um, but they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed it comes up. but then before i knew what was happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017, and that's with nearly 70 s plus. what does the main difference between being a diplomatic and a politician bigger but i'm just a movie and as a cabinet,

as unbelievable. lee, brilliant diplomats done into ministers and it speaks about his acumen, also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know, and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i, i get nice about this. i usually get nice carefully, you know, just interest. i agonize about it. what mix a bus and able to navigate a diploma is just the kind of thought i use ition. but i think whether the civil servant audio and an academic audio, or if i may respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and the clear there was a set of this on the street that which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people, put your point of view across, set them that have to reach out to your audience. and that's part of the problem is

what that's also part of what it takes. i mean, i was reminded when i was very young as a 77, and we lost a very senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards politicians. he could use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye, had bureaucrats, he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the other facets of the same personality as to some people never make the funds which the time seeing, you know, somebody. but i think if you've been in any profession for 39 years as i was shortly, there must have been something you've got to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people knowing how that. and the wonderful politics brings a logic, kind of what steps all, i mean is a diploma you out of credited from one country to another. or if you want them to you and you are dealing with the member states. but political gotten was is much

larger. so i think it also provides good training now, but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get this? i think the probably when this does vision of india exhibiting board and how many alicia's rubin, because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you, what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25000000.00 as against. busy trillion the fortunately and all that. now, no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be doing. i know from g, if you ask anyone a question on any countries, consumption goes on energy rising, audit, declining at this table. if you give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption please. i don't want to start early with the facts,

but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil in a day, which is going into other science, 5000000 bottles in a day. this was a figure in about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured have come up to 5330000. that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of how we are going to, in the next few years to look at them in google and consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next to tickets. next 20 years, 25 percent of the increase in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question and i apologize for giving you a long waiting it on so it will come from several things. one,

a massive increase in explanation and production. what happened is, for a long period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this one is 33 years ago, a lot of people in the place that the why do want to import. oh, i do want to spend money on prospecting, but no, i think the multi government things but up and we have at least out of the $3500000.00 square kilometres of supplementary basing would to be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was no go area has been released for prospecting. we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major oil companies in the world are now coming, wanting to invest here in the earlier the job was you will do government invest and if you find the oil and then we start to solve and right,

this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in reason now we're really in incentivize the invest upcoming and we're willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the operation to look for it. we're going into biofuels and a very big list of all the assumed responsibility to, to biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are doing 15 percent last month. we that 50 percent. we had a thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go with the green hydrogen in a big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, you will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean, they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 bottles of that. it will go up to even save and all that about is it going to be all done domestically?

domestic production will go up. the rest will be and bought it and they are limited . but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and a do so for efficiency coming from the solar big with green hydrogen. like i think green hydrogen is the fuel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that is sold up. when you bought the stated that from $0.25 a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. then you need an electrolytes. we put that on the p a light scheme. so

today i would say that all out estimates of re nitrogen for the next 5 years, 6 years 2030 odd on the estimates. i see green hydrogen exploding. i see biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to 34 percent 40 percent in mall. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve your aggregate for problem proven with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 gross because you save that money due to inbox. now, when you do 20 percent blending, depending on the global price, it give you a promise more today the biofuels that's an old feed is coming from sugar. okay. and it's coming from is it's coming from broken food green, it's coming from agricultural waste. so be self sufficient energy in, you know, part of that the prime minister in the side is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in part of that is making audits or why?

but i think what is happening in part of this is something which is a combination. if i'm it's submit of 3 factors. we have gone from being apologetic about our development to space we will under develop, bieber wondered, looked at it devices for and there's something remarkable that this happened. is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers ensued in us a pride in our historical and civilizational bost as a thing to say. and i think he believes that it's only countries which have free 10 bride in them says japan being a case in point of have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that at the one that's an additive, i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went anywhere, you know, they were locating the, as is as a country,

which is, you know, maybe to be with the different art despise and the other long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying in just as a snake country upsize may sound like an elephant, and so the buyers or people buy them up in the high position. absolutely. so then came along mr. toby had a bunch by you, my them a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing him for a long time and we couldn't get it out. the nuclear tests, which gave you a sudden edge in terms of once you have a new kid attendance before they just like me, mostly it has been but then the last 10 years have been remarkable. in terms of the kind of b cannot make product. the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small catalyst. they can provide some ideas, no matter which way you would add. what used to happen is there is to say that that i 7, i'm in the eyes out there. that is the flow and india, which is um, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and i,

it would be more deep than yours have succeeded in doing. and this realization is we have not been able to get that negative across is that he has said that good governance is also good politics. and so sort of all that until guy. and he's taken the develop the, the fruits of development, or the benefits of development to the fullest, to the farthest by which was by the way, the agenda of the sustainable development goal is 2030, which came into being, i think, the 2016. but more than you'd already started in 2014, which means what? 4 could order for the $13.00 of us who is not. and i was saying was another 3 cro. if paper didn't have cooking gas, he would give them cylinder. would you like 10 grow or 28 black cylinders given under that? would you let us give the metro system? know india is a country on the moon today i metro system is getting one drawer. people passengers

per day. but today i open population is just over 30 percent and we had 1400000 people is a 30 percent. by the time we do 50 percent of a population that will be 800000000 people living in india. so you will need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd largest in the world, a little bit to south korea, japan and the united states, which is that 1560 kilometers. the point i'm making is it's not one thing you bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital evolution. financial intrusion. and we can, wisco was all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of the pen to me in and of itself. we have one country in the world which declared the loved them quickly also, because if it's a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lively, will do god just light. and then we came out of it all to quickly, but resides all indigent needs to be manufactured. vaccines not only provided what

something like to a 120 good, or the vaccine, those as 2 people in india, motor most feet. but you also supply to 100 other countries. so today, you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know, but g is a replica both on a larger scale in the global south, in, in africa and latin america. even in parts of centrally shots such as and central europe also. so india has come up, you look at your automobile and do the. but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to green nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things, civilizational fost, they think development now and then embracing technology, digital, and all that with a religious, well, i'm facing do for you that in the see the list and the word from a huge economic might have done in 2022. absolutely. how you see when the military

operations to produce. so if you're talking about 5 of the 22, let's look at the hard fact some the hot facts that the russian federation produced 13000000 barrels of crude oil in a day. if you, what i'm gonna say hop hypothetically, if you were to take the position that a little bit annoying boards or purchases from the shop and then it's done. so these are not been thought of putting william by those which was being produced and consumed. whatever to be purchased from somewhere else, where was it would have been purchased from, from the other supplies. so just imagine if the doors was supplying the global total was about a $120000000.00 bottles of it. with that cut, the 1000000 barrels off. it is the other matters, it will be a more pressure on that, which means the price went up sort up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception was that the, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i see that with great

a price i question, does it wait a minute? wait a minute. what are we discussing? the oil, which comes through a pipeline from the russian for division to hungry, is exempt from any such stock. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china, is exempt sales from the cycling to japan and the parties that exam. so why this intended again then slowly everybody said no, no, it's not that it's best that you should buy. then they impose the price gap. i have been saying to a lot of my friends all over the world, i don't want to name any country. you said go buying a so much i so do i buy from whoever sends me at the most competitive price, because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store revenue. so they will be short and up. and they will say, we want to disagree with the wind. anyone wants to compete, couldn't complete them, but then, but in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good eyes and rest. so that only 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last

month it was $135.00 nearly 40 percent. so why does it bother the i don't think it does the rest. it doesn't bother. oh, maybe a bank. $20000000.00 into us. why, how come? nobody mentions that please. the political diplomacy move on is no. it is i it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them know america, lodge oil farm and who have suddenly find toys that we know. and if you can provide it cheap, we will so know these things will go up and down our imports to a large lead from solve the it'd be, uh, the minutes go with it. ok, well i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone. well, they have their problem solved. i. they would say that i wanted us to buy an oil at the competitive rates, but that's an entirely different discussion. and i know the construction is on the, for the new, the actors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any

reading or i can tell you, we've been to a very fascinating phase in our approach to energy doing them. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new nuclear energy ideally shouldn't be a source of providing a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an india specific safeguards agreement. we did all these things, etc. but it's always been what took off and that or not, but idea of the russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of cooperation with the slide soviet union. in many unfreezes, i mean defense you know, energy now nuclear etc is extremely important and we greatly evaluate. so what are in the us key objectives or it's engagement in the categories and in terms of energy, energy as defined in the broad as possible, as broad as possible. and i mean new look forward. whatever energy you can get,

we can all but today, you know, the new and new makes. you're going to be looking at, read some of those, all that. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country has gone off the mark earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere. and that'll be rationalized ocean production and supply lines. what does action allies and countries which are large markets? well, it has to be the saw. so we'll also need to say no buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying, say, what 5 or 6000000 barrels a day. you know, how much on, while it would be in way would be the organ advised me. i mean, do i own large biased or to china and india, any of others? but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in with the advent of other, the hybrids biofuels coming in, green hydrogen, etc. the world of changing. but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future, this kind of energy mix is something we will need to be anchored in photo. why? how does, how do they put a, relax,

a very good question. the question may have some really of oh, why doesn't have the ability to learn? so i mean i've, i've, no, i, i'd be like i go to the next person venue. i'm relaxed otherwise, but the know by the likes. i think you had a very positive construct on relax him is the switch off the switch off today we've all become victims of the technology before this lead, but felt happy and one at night you're looking at the messages when you get up in the morning 1st thing is you're looking at amazon, so i think taking your time off, well, that's not going to happen this now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to look. i don't think is big on a holiday in uh, did you want, does it task master? done that's up to you. i mean he has a lot of lot, lot of a lot of people working for them. i don't think everyone shows what drives through this phone like that. lucas, older than me. i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what a stephen is through the that out. and i received him in the and in geneva when i

was loaning deposition. but the point is that, um, i think its gwen as the rest of what the last few months has been particularly hectic because it a lot of 85 b election campaign. actually we were working in that election more the one for 6 months earlier. so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think what needs to before i don't to use load though i but i, i think it is, it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch it for and or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i'd go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. when actually it was here. i would invariably watch netflix also. uh, you know what, what a movie and, and uh for both of us and both of us read quite a bit. thank you. have the for like, you the, and i guess,

my dear and thank you for watching you join me next week. as we call it a new lid and yet another debate and let's stuff out of i'm on if i'm kid would by the one with the, for one of those little and so forth. us national, move the images on. so good on squared amount from us like little, much really watch the dealer words the which isn't going to with me as well. when i go and still able to stop, you just send them the function is still bothering you, but let me hear when you push the issue of the unbox remodeled and we've got this to move 011 missed this agreement. so when you go into the deal is make up the cell. i don't know what else to but yes it was so,

but i use the yeah, i was thinking and then use face that on me 58 and i maybe cause it please go ahead and always communicate that me through a couple of national minds. police are still available. we have such alteration mojitos to eulu video insights, but i don't think he will definitely states bundle in the top of the. but your move is a new one here, especially is this pretty big news. the i'm saying is that, but then you just throw in images through one and then the other will be missing. the done thing is um list of worst of movies is always in my hands. not old on the side of me, things like that is up and that sort of the, to me this one more to personalities. been heard a lot. this is a must always displayed the loading on the,

on the 2nd, but to totally out on the, on the uh, the most value of the scale they will. but he really is he still looking the i would have to really put the dish you the most piano can i have to be like what the she a little guy know are you the diagnostic lab? people throw both of them. good police, the the level of again, the subsidies, the guys that, that should have go into it that will assume rosalyn will be, i mean, i've been dealing with nearly many bits of shown in space. so it doesn't get up and get a little just the monday or they go and it's good. they will gasket on monday. did you want to go to so many doc a but it is you by law go to one and 2, but she's to go mean he goes empty and the, i mean the must be going through them. we a multi danielle or she be the be i one of all the go on beyond what he did not turn on, but kick, was it give a good or does it will be the,

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