of the know energy is a fundamental indicator of how we are going to be doing probably when this does vision of india is a board and how many and vicious roofing? i think the more the government things back up today. we've all become victims of technology. politics brings a logic kind of what's that's all russian federation, cooperation is an exceptionally important. you said you're buying

a so much i said to, i bought it from whoever sends me at the most competitive price. why does it bother the i don't think it does the hello and welcome my name is on the phone kid. welcome to my show bed for the next tough in order. we will discuss all things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician who served as india as permanent representative to united nations and had 4 administrative positions today. subbing of india, i mean this truck, petroleum and natural gas. they've completely put it. here. are the party was born in delhi, in 1952. he got his master's in history from del university and joined and used for in service in 1974. during his remarkable diplomatic career, she has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of

external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indians permanent representative to the you and in geneva and in new york to join the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed administer of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 missed hero positions at the same time. she is currently serving, administered petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to you. i post, i met you in new york, and now we had, here's chatting about life. you come from a diploma family, low disability and not to a joyce that to me to get into this. i don't think i ever exercised a choice as of 12 in terms of career. and i wanted to be a diplomatic because my father was in the ministry of extending the for i see. so that's a life i was born in to me as

a 4 year old child. i accompanied my father when he went on his 1st boasting to born in germany me. when i was 16 years old and joining the university. i was exposed to student politics. i floated with both the left and the right. as we understand it than normal language, and yes, i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma, that could be a of 39 years. and it's not that i exercise the choice. it goes on most of that sorted list, been to the next phase of my life, which was the b, zippy. hm. i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact an instance in 2008 when i just come back from brazil. but i was advised that a i would say country and daily,

and i wanted to consider joining politics even then. i remember i went to the leadership of the body and expressed an interest in uh, contesting the 2009 elections from bailey, the party, for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing. then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative and i had the privilege of presiding over this to go to pick on. so the deal was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he fought. she's yeah, was appointed 5 of the planet of the brand. and as the advisor that also so it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york. but when i came back in 2013 uh,

what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra, a ticket to fight the looks of i election. i have thought it did not find it right. they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed it comes up. but then before i knew what is happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017. and that's with nearly 70 s plus the main difference between being and deployment and a politician bigger. but i'm just, i'm more the and as a cabinet, as unbelievable. lee, brilliant diplomats done into ministers. and it speaks about his acumen also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know, and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i, i get nice about this. i usually get nice carefully, you know, just interest. i agonize about it. what mix a bus and able to navigate

a diploma is just the kind of thought i ition. but i think whether the civil servant audio an academic audio, or if i made respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and the clear there was a set of this on the street that which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people, put your point of view across, set them that have to reach out to your audience. and that's part of the problem is what that's also part of what it takes. i mean, i was reminded when i was very young as a 77, and we lost a very senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards, politicians. he couldn't use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye had bureaucrats, he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the

other facets of the same personality as to some people and never make the funds which defined seen, you know, somebody. but i think if you've been in any profession for 39 years, i was shortly. there must have been something you've got to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people knowing how that and the wonderful politics brings a logic kind of us. that's all i mean is a diploma to other credited from one country to another. or if you want them to you, when you are dealing with the member states, but political gotten, this is much larger. so i think it also provides good training now. but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get there? i think we try when this does vision of india, the exhibiting board and how many alicia's rubin, because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you,

what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25.00 trillion dollars as against your. busy entry into our 4 trillion dollar amount. no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be doing a no problem g. if you ask anyone a question on any countries, consumption goes on, energy rising, are the declining at this table? if you give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption please. i don't want to start early with the facts, but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil. in a day. we're just going into our designs, 5000000 bottles in a day. this was a figure in about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured has come up to 5330000. that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of how we are going to,

in the next few years to look at them in google and consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next to tickets. next 20 s 25 percent of the increase. the in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question and i apologize. we're giving you a long waiting it on so it will come from several things. one, a massive increase in explanation and production. what happened is, for a long period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this one is 33 years ago, a lot of people in well place that the why do want to import. i do want to spend money on prospecting, but no, i think the more the government thinks better. and we have released out of the

$3500000.00 square kilometres of settlement. the best thing would be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was noble area has been released for prospecting. we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major oil companies in the world are now coming. one thing to invest here in the job was, you know, the government invest and if you find the oil and then reasserted us up and right, this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in reason? now we're really in incentivize the invest upcoming and we are willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the obligation to look forward. we're going into biofuels and a very big we list them all the assumed responsibility to, to biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are

doing 15 percent last month. we need 50 percent. we're to thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go to green hydrogen in a big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, you will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean, they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 bottles of that. it will go up to even save and all that about is it going to be all done domestically? domestic production will go up. the rest will be important and the up limited, but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and

a do. so for efficiency coming from solar, a big with green hydrogen, like i think green hydrogen is a feel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that to solar. we've already demonstrated that from $0.25 a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. and then you need an electrolytes that we put that on the p a light scheme . so today i would say that all out estimates of green hydrogen for the next 5 years, 6 years 2030. all right, i'm gonna estimate. i see green hydrogen exploding. i see biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to put the 40 percent 40 percent in mall. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve your aggregate for problem of 12 and with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 gross because you save that money due to inbox. now when you do 20 percent blending,

depending on the global price, it will give you a promise more. today the biofuels at the low feed is coming from sugar. okay. and it's coming from is it's coming from broken. for green, it's coming from agriculture, the waste. so be self sufficient energy in the part of the prime minister and this site is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in part of that is making audits or why? but i think what is happening, and part of this is something which is a combination if i'm, if it's submit of 3 factors and we have gone from being apologetic about our development, the space we will under develop bieber wonder to categorize us as poor. and there's something remarkable that this happened is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers ensued in us

a pride in our historical and civilizational bost as a thing to say. i think he believes that it's only countries which have free 10 bride in them says japan being a case in point, i'd have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that at the one that's an additive, i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went anywhere, you know, they were locating the, as is as a country, which is, you know, maybe to be with the different art despise idea of a long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying in just as a snake country upside smith, i'm as in elephant and, and so the buyers are people to buy them up in the high position. absolutely. so ben came along mr. toby had a bunch, but i do my them a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing it for a long time, and we couldn't get it out. the nuclear tests, which gave you

a sudden edge in terms of once you have a new cleared attendance before they just like me. mostly and, but then the last 10 years have been remarkable in terms of the kind of economic product. the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small capitalist. they can provide some ideas. i don't, no matter which way you would. and what used to happen is there is to say that that i said what i'm in the as out there, that is the flow and india, which is um, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and i, it would be more deep than yours have succeeded in doing. and this realization is we have not been able to get that negative across me. is that he has said that good governance is also good politics. and so sort of all day until day and he's taken the develop the folks of development or the benefits of development to the buddhist to the farthest by which was by the way,

the agenda of the sustainable development goes 2030, which came into being, i think the 2016, but more the need only started in 2014, which means what? for good or for the 13 of us who is not. and i was saying version another 3 cro. if paper didn't have cooking guys, he would give them cylinder. would you like 10 grow or 28 black cylinders given under that? would you want to scheme? the metro system? no. india is a country on the moon. today i metro system is getting one drawer. people, passengers, but they but today of and population is just over 30 percent. and we had 1400000 people is a 30 percent. by the time we do 50 percent of a population that will be 800000000 people living in india. so you would need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd largest in the world and a little bit take to south korea, japan and the united states, which is that $1560.00 of them. and the point i'm making is it's not one thing you

bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital imaging and financial intrusion . and we can, let's go, was all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of the pen to me in and of itself. we have one country in the world, which declared the loved them quickly. also, because if it's a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lively, will do kind of slides. and then we came out of it also quickly, but it was like all indigenous to be manufactured vaccines. not only provided what something like 220 or the vaccine, those as 2 people in india motor most feet. but you also supply to 100 other countries. so today you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know from g is a replica both on a larger scale in the global south, in, in africa and latin america, even in parts of centrally shots such as and central europe also. so india has come

up, you look at your automobile and do the, but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to the nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things. civilizational fast, they think development now and then embracing technology, digital, and all that with a religious. well, i'm phasing, do you feel that indeed save the wrist and the word from a huge economic might have done in 2022? absolutely. how you see when the military operations to products we, if you're talking what 5 of the 22. let's look at the hard fact. some the hot facts that the russian federation produced 13000000 barrels of crude oil in a day. if your i'm gonna say helping hypothetically, if you were to pick the position that there will be no imports or purchases from the shop, then it's done. so these are the been thought of putting william by those which was being produced and consumed whatever to be purchased. from somewhere else,

right. or whether it would have been purchased from, from the other supplies. so just imagine if the doors were supplying the global total was about a $120000000.00 bottles of it would take $13000000.00 barrels off. it is the other matters. it will be a more pressure on that, which means the price went up sort up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception was that, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i see that with great a price i question, does it wait a minute? wait a minute. what are we discussing? the oil, which comes to a 5 line from the russian for division to hungry is exempt from any such stock. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china, is exempt sales from the cycling to japan and the parties that exam. so what is intended again then slowly everybody's that?

no, no, it's not that it's best that you should buy. then they impose the price gap. i have been saying to a lot of my friends all over the world. i don't want to name any country. you said go buying a so much i. so do i buy from whoever sends me at the most competitive price because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store revenue, so they will be short and, and they will say, we want to disagree or divide. anyone wants to compete can complete them, but then, but in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good eyes rest. so that only 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last month it was $135.00 nearly 40 percent. so why does it bother the i don't think it does the rest. it doesn't bother the bank. $20000000.00 under us. why? how come? nobody mentions that please. the political diplomatic move on is no. it is i, it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them to america, lodge oil farm and who have suddenly find toys that we know. and if you can provide

it cheap, we will so know these things will go up and down our imports. we're allowed to leave from solve the it'd be, uh, the minutes go with it. ok. well i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone what they have their problem solved. i. they would say that i wanted us to buy an oil at the competitive rates, but that's an entirely different discussion. and i know the construction is on the, for the new, the actors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any reading? i can tell you, we've been to a very fascinating phase in our approach to energy doing them. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new euclid energy ideally shouldn't be a source of providing a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an india specific safeguards agreement, we did all these things, etc. but that has always been what took off and then or not. but idea of the

russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of cooperation with the side soviet union. in many fields, i'm in defense. the, you know, energy now the nuclear etc is extremely important. and we greatly value it. so what are the key objective? so it's engagement in the author degrees and in terms of energy, energy as defined in the broadest possible, um, as broad as possible to 1000. i mean, new look forward. whatever energy you can get, we can all but today, you know, the new and new mexico going to be looking at, read some of those, all that. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country is going off the market earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere. and that will be rational valuation. production and supply lines. what additional lies and countries which have large markets, what has to be the saw? so we'll also need to say no buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying,

say, what 5 or 6000000 barrels a day. you don't. how much on while it would be and it would be the ordered by us. i mean you up large biased or the china and india. i knew about us. but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in with the advent of other, the hybrids biofuels coming in, green, the hydrogen, etc. the world is changing. but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future, this kind of energy mix is something we will need to be anchored in photo wise. how does, how do they put the relax a very good question. the question may have should really of, oh, why doesn't have the ability to learn? so i mean i've, i've, no, i, i do a, i go to the next person when i know that i'm relaxed otherwise, but the know by relaxed i think you had a very positive construct on relaxing is the switch off the switch off today we've all become victims of technology before you sleep with prototype in one at night,

you're looking at the messages when you get up in the morning. first thing is you're looking at amazon. so i think taking a time off, well that's not going to happen this now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to work and i don't think he is bigger than a 100. and did you want, does it task master done that's up to you. i mean, he has a lot of lot lot, a lot of people working for him. i don't think everyone shows tries to respond to that lucas or letting me i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what else do you want us to revise it out. and i received him in the and in geneva when i was loaning drip executive. but the point is that, um, i think its gwen has progressed over the last few months, has been particularly hectic because there's a lot of 85 the election campaign. actually we were working in the election more do you in for 6 months earlier? so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think what needs to before i don't think you know i but i i think it, it is. it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch

a feeling or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i'll go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. well actually it was here. i would invariably watch netflix also. uh, you know what? a lot of movie and, and uh, both of us and both of us reads quite a bit. thank you and the, provide you with the, i guess, mike and thank you for watching. joining me next week, as we uncolored a new list and yet another debate, and let's talk about the amount of home care goodbye. the more expensive and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. several opinions that he

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