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in for me to respond to that, just essentially the age goes into gaza, falls into the hands of some us. it's strengthened, some us ruling the strip and this is not good for the garden civilians either. this means that this aid is not humanitarian aid. it is a that strengthens the terrorist strength in some us and therefore it is not good for us or for the civilians. we as a south 9, do not oppose humanitarian aid asia. we want humanity or in a to enter and reach the civil williams. only the civilians of casa, not the terrorist. and it's really important for me to address and the sanctions because essentially, the sections mean that we are not allowed to protest in the state of israel, son, that's what it means. it means that in israel and we cannot protest anymore, the assignment is really citizen. i haven't done anything wrong according to the law. and still, as a citizen, i cannot hold a legitimate democratic protest in my own country. so this is a very,
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very severe infringement that shouldn't occur. biden is the president of the united states. he can legislate things and impose them on his citizens. but i am subject to the laws and rules and rights of the state of israel, a free democracy. they would, you said repeatedly, and you just now said that again, but the aide sends to gaza, goes directly to have mazda. is your opinion, this is why you oppose that. and no one will argue that partially yes. how mass ruled, they probably stayed in clay for 15 years before the war started. it controls many things on the ground. it's clear, but what is also clear and what has been confirmed by numerous international organizations, is that the life of ordinary gatherings, surviving famine and lack of water and medications, deeply depends on this age as well. dozens of guys on children have died from malnutrition. doesn't mothers, you are unable to breast feed their,
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they kids and they see them dying. humanitarian situation is catastrophic. the age that self 9 is preventing from reaching garza, is that a that these mothers and these children need as a mother of 8? what would you say to that? to least, to kind of the we need to look at the facts. today, there is twice the amount of goods passing through god's us and there was in comparison to before the war, twice the amount. it's an amazing figure. you can't put the difficulties of the population inside gaza on the back of the top 9, because we only delayed the goods from entering. our action was a protest to urge the state of israel or neutral international body to take control of the aid take responsibility. so that the aid reaches the civilians. this means that we under top 9, did not prevent the aid from reaching the population. the aide is passing in high
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quantities into gaza. so what you were saying about mountain nutrition and hunger, it's actually falls on the ground. the footage coming out of cause that shows beyond any doubt the situation in gaza, the markets and goes up phone with goods, the abundance of merchandise and gaza to the point that food is thrown away as this means that there is no hunger in gaza. and this, there is hunger, it cannot be blamed on israel or on the action, the new top 9. so as if you see, is really army monitoring and controlling the delivery of humanitarian aid to those in need to mothers and children. then you will not oppose that. is that what you say? menu? i feel what seems exactly. we want the a to reach the civilian population. because what is happening today? look, i live here in the 2 box very close to gaza. i've been living here for 16 years, and all these years, a moss has been firing rockets that me and my children come as far as that us not
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only during more time. they mean this is something that people around the world don't understand. the reality of rockets is a daily routine for me. my children suffer from p gsp. my children don't go to the bathroom, although they don't close the door when they're in the shower because they're always afraid. if there's a rocket now, and there's an alarm, i need to run, i need someone to look after me and meet. they grow up, always afraid. again, not just in war time as even in gauze, or they don't experience this because they experienced a storm war. we've been suffering from rockets all the time. as mine is read, the army has been accomplishing humanitarian and convoys into gaza. and they have been several incidents when they was shooting and there was a king's and casualties because of that, do you think the army is capable of fulfilling the submission of protecting human hearing aid and making sure it goes to right hands?
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i don't know. let's see him say we need to have control of a that guns bozza from south nines perspective. this can be done either by the ideas or by neutral international organizations. it's important for us to say this . maybe even a combined solutions need that. we're not the government and we won't tell them what's the best solution. mean we trust our government and ask it to come up with the best solution they see fit and put blaming the ideas for a single incident. that was truly a one time event and 9 months of war for one case of mistakenly shooting, an innocent person is wrong. this, of course, in the, in the end, this happened even between ideas. troops within the id s, there were so many casualties, including hostages, were killed because it's a war and didn't ward the people we don't want to be killed, get killed. this incident was very, very unfortunate. but again, such incidents happen. and they've happened to soldiers to my husband's friend
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who's killed this way. why one unit mistakenly firing on another idea, a few minutes. the civilians also get killed this way by mistake. because it's the sad reality of war to me. dev. then you should be id, ask us, it's best to fight this war with as few casualties as possible and does more than any army in the world. to achieve that, we see this because some austin's children to locate where the idea troops are and to harm our soldiers in the idea of never shoot to the children, lou, we're meeting these really armies considered to be one of the best in the world. shouldn't that mean that the idea of is capable of defeating him? us without restricting humanitarian supplies? how mass has that? shouldn't be a terrible, sheila bi claim, a little control and a moss. their greatest strength is that they don't care about their own population . that's why they hide within the civilian population. and so this is what you made them come in with them. they hide themselves, their weapons, their ms tiles, right?
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underwear children study, that's the strength of the mosque. and to defeat them, we have to do everything we can, we need to target them. awesome. and the idea does this in a way that protects the civilian population to the highest degree possible. and that's why the bobby taylor, of how much this restricted humanitarian aid help the idea in a tube in its military go, defeating him, us hiding dining latha. our soldiers who went to gaza, saw her mazda is tara tunnels, filled with humanitarian aid. their warehouses stocked with chocolate cans and all the goods that come with the aid, the quarterly. they see this with their own eyes to come off as terrorist sites. so we need to look at the facts. we need to consider what is happening on the ground and not the narrative. the world wants to tell itself and it's a better look at the steps on the ground. there with you also said that you don't believe that children in guys are dying from malnutrition,
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although it was confirmed by international organizations. you also said that you don't believe that there is lack of food and there is risk of famine, a fabulous friday, especially in the north. although again, this is what the wind is alarming about. what do you think is happening on the ground? what, what is the picture that you have of what is going on in gaza right now, and what are your sources specification about anyway, that's when i key. i see the full picture here because my husband was in gaza for a month and a half. and my friends are fighting there too, and we see the reality as it is. and we also see it on telegram. there's difficult reality and goes to that. but ultimately, when a soldier sees thursday and hungry people, the ideas are the 1st to give them water. when a see, we see reality as it is. it is true that a moss and other terrorist organizations published statistics. but i don't think
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that those numbers should be trusted, because in the end, they're numbers that want to tell a certain story about the reality and casa, and the reality in gaza is an unpleasant one to me, if we want the war to end an israel to we want the war to add to the man. let's get back to sanctions. as freezing is, i'm on the sanctions. how will it affect the work of your organization based semester? it's the same field and i know to for the sanctions began, we had stopped taking action on the ground to solve 9 is not a legal entity. so the sanctions didn't directly affect us, but we had money collected through donations to operate. this money is essentially frozen in a fund and we can't access it to mean all our movements. social media accounts are blocked call you can find to mos propaganda, an incitement videos on social media, calling for violence and the murder of jews. we who ever released non violent non
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offensive videos. first, we were blocked on all platforms. youtube, facebook and tape talking, instagram. g. now we were blocked everywhere. even though we never released any offensive or violent content. and after high, can you reveal how much money was, was frozen? approximately $85000.00 us dollars. there were some they pay report reveals that is rarely groups blocking guys. humanitarian convoys have raised over $200000.00 through crowd funding signs from us. it is really donors with contributions being tax deductible. where do you find funding? lots of data. it's in a solve 9 has had support from all segments. it is rarely society among us and solve 9 their families of hostages, and believed families, as well as citizens from all over the country, including those were evacuated from their homes in the south, in the north, same shape. even those who didn't directly participate in the actions fairly solved
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in their hearts that they were with us. it was clear to them that they supported our call to the government to take the necessary measures to achieve victory and to we can come us. so those who stayed at home and couldn't join us often donated money. they were the ones who said, my heart is with you. please continue doing this because it is our ability to live here safely in our country. there's a mistake. what about the nations from abroad? the only mentioned is really donors. it's in a professional combined use. we launched a fundraising campaign and this really is as well as jews from around the world join the campaign. a came by the way because there was support to our cause. and we received messages from individuals overseas, who do the we cannot exactly locate the origin of each donation, but the funds raised from private donors are frozen in the j. d is funded and we're never inaccessible to us to mean. in fact,
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it has been locked off illegally and we cannot access the money to keep the earlier side that the assets of $85000.00 having frozen may i ask you, what is the total amount of money that you have been able to raise in 7 months said base, i'm a school associate and need a that's the amount the amount that's locked is all the funding. we had a music system. besides that, we've stopped fundraising because part of the sanctions means i can't even collect donations for my own legal donald condition. but this, i want to hire lawyers to help me get through this period to help me resolve this. so that one day i can enter the united states store to the senior. i have a husband who's a us citizen, and i have children who are us citizens. i need lawyers for that. how i mean, i can't even collect money now, even from people who wants to help me. i can't receive any money that would help to hire these lawyers because according to the presidential act, it's as if i'm some kind of criminal. it's in,
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but i'm not allowed to collect donations key. let me pull shot me a source of to me just to clarify $85000.00 is, is a total amount. mm hm. and it has been frozen, but you have been using money all these months, right. as limits a you and we so there were organizations who supported us. there was, for example, an organization that allowed us to use a p r services and advertising a divorce. but for instance, i and others in the organization are simple volunteers. so if people paid for flags or shorts, for things we use during the protests, it was paid from their own pocket because they truly supported us. and other times it was thanks to small donations for individuals is a new for me. but just like i put my own money for my gas, for my car, and for things i use, there was a lot of axes kind this from people with a many people agreed to work and help us with payment in return for their efforts in a. but some are still waiting for us to be able to pay them from what they did for
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top 9 manage inches. mm hm. so as far as i understand, you didn't spend a penny from the money that you raised through crowd funding. basically kind of the stuff that piece of j a and we started collecting money when the activities sob 9 began to receive significant immediate attention. but there's something more i really want to say. i volunteered all along because i truly saw it in front of my eyes. our hostages, who my so desperately wanted to see for you said it's, we want them off to release our hostages and i was ready to volunteer to do everything, to invest of my time and effort for this to happen. we said, we truly believe that has come off, had an incentive to do so. they would come to the table and make a deal with us. a mazda is not willing to make any deal to release our hostages, but there's one more thing i can a firm. we are ready and willing to do and sacrifice a lot for the sake of our country. however, with what i'm going through now,
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these sanctions against me, it's something i cannot remain silent without. i want my children, my friends, and myself to be able to express our opinions freely in our country. these sanctions are silencing us and then the legal manner. and you said that many times in your interviews and you repeated. now that from the moment i found the top 9, these are your words. it was solely to bring hostages home. but as far as i understand you oppose the hostage, still they exchanged still between israel and how mouse. so how do you seize rarely hostages, returning home? what is the way the best way? and then we want our hostages to come home and they can return with the deal. they can come back with the military operation. however they return, we are happy and grateful for it. we and south 9 want the hostages back home by some of the members of the top 9. they oppose the exchange deal. well,
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talk certainly met them. it's very important and i don't just refrain from sharing my private opinion for no reason. i'm representing a movement here that encompasses a wide range of opinions. if i, as a leader of this means that express my personal opinion, it can create an uncomfortable and unplug as a space for the people within the industry. there are people who oppose a deal, and there are those who want to deal at any cost. we include everyone and everyone is a part of the move that truly, this is the movement of the people of israel and everyone is a number. so officially, the position of your organization of top 9 is that you support any mean that will help bring hostages home, including exchange deal between israel and how much money produced by me. now, i simply believe that the starting point, the fact that we're strengthening him off and then expecting him off to come and accept a good deal for us is a mistake and approach for us to reach the best possible deal from us needs to
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watch that deal do think at this point, there is not enough pressure on him us a diplomatic military. political the in the end is here. i am sitting in front of you and you were interviewing me about the sanctions. are there sanctions on come off on her? most supporters is there a pressure on them from the united states. all we hear about is how much of bite and is concerned with sending them a seat. equally concerned with applying pressure on him off to release hostages. is he applying the same amount of pressure on them to stop their terrorist activities? but how mazda is considered a service organization by, by the us navigation as a son and climate. from the moment israel started fighting him off. so us has repeatedly hindered and interfered with our ability to act and defend ourselves. and if it is true that a mazda is a terrorist organization, then, so was on the right,
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it went to then it's time to present them to the world in that light. and stop treating them as is there anything else? there's something here that needs to change. so at least level my life here in israel, we understand this because we experienced october 7th. we understand this because we saw the atrocities and heard about the baby's bond. and the women raped to death, their bodies, mutilated. but the world, the world prefers to close its eyes and not look at the facts. they stick a little. how many people do you have in 129? is it like a fish? oh, i can become a member, the image, a, a see know a how the what we didn't really establish formal membership and solve 9 because it's an open grass roots movement. a people can identify with the movements values and participate without registering. and either the same at the political, you can simply take a flag, join the activities, and become part of the group, both of these and elastic. we have around 15000 active se, but 59 and joys
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a much broader support. and more than i, i know, seeing that we carried out many actions and receive support from combat and font and gaza and as just to continue. so in the dental, we receive support from all parts of the nation without requiring each person to formally register and say, i'm a member of top 9. again, i need cover them. it's something they referred to your organization as extremist and the european castle. now because of the sanctions describes of 9 members as violent acts of his would you agree on that goal eventually? of course not. so, but you can, you can simply look at our activities on the ground and see that there was no violence. every time we arrived, we brought something nice to eat for the security forces. we never harmed anyone in the actions of south 9. that's really on the contrary, when there was harm caused by other organizations, we were there to say that it was not acceptable to us. is a peaceful but videos. so in your settler is attacking humanitarian convoys,
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searching vehicles on fire. i can drivers damages supplies, but so these are not, so i'm 9, i've got has been made a lot in what they've had. so there was indeed one unique violent incidents that occurred after we were no longer on the ground. but you know, throwing weight goods, harming drivers. none of the things you mentioned are related to the activities of soft 9 days. and i also think that if we really look at how often such occurrences happened, i know only one incident. that one incident where there was violence against drivers and one incident where a trumpet was born. again, not during solve nines blockade. this happened after we had already announced that we had stopped our activities and asked everyone to go home because it might, it happened several hours later. but truly, all the things you described happened only once on the fact. this is why i ask you
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about the number of people that so i've known you nice and you said it's thousands and thousands. so it's really hard to control the behavior of all of them. i think it was in the is very difficult. so we managed to do it. the fact is, all the actions of solve 9 throughout the journey showed that we succeeded. there were many articles, many interviews and furniture all along the way to prove it. so you can see it actually happening on the ground. we managed to create a non violent, legitimate action, a beautiful family friendly protest. so even when someone to, to bridge the buses of teenagers and everything. we said no solve 9 is a family friendly protest. it's a protest conducted respectfully. and we said many times that our aim was to strengthen the government and we wanted to strengthen our people, not. we could not move violent actions only weaken our position. can we say that things went out of control? now what i need is to be like, got a, let me tell a little bit about alex. wait,
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maybe i should explain for those who don't, let's hear a video. typically the convoys passed through different areas of the country. a that, that was this time the convoys passed through areas near different settlements, essentially coming from central israel. a showing these were convoys that arrived from various sources, including from fattano, westbank to region, cause only a local people who lived there and who had no connection whatsoever to solve 9 before solve these trucks passing nations. then it happens regardless to solve nines protest. it's not, you can see that even one solve 9 stopped effect to these. those people continued and locked the trucks and did many more things. they carried out several other actions afterwards. so because these convoys passed through this area, the people living there arrived and opposed them in this way. the said they didn't start because of solve 9. it wasn't solve 9 action that caught out of control. it
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was actually the trucks that took a different route that brought different people to block them. do you have an impression that maybe somehow, without one tenant, without willing it opened the box up and dora, i mean, any movie neither showed any movie nay. and i understand the question too, right? i understand what you're essentially asking. and the answer is no. a beta mainly this was essentially done under the radar and without the knowledge of the entire nation, i assume that house, yes, we brought awareness to this issue and it was important to do so. it was important to raise awareness because it directly affects our lives. when someone in russia reads about these convoys arriving, it doesn't directly impacts that i live here, and that's involved in the fact that a mazda is still alive, taking and so strong directly affects me a horse. a while it might be true that a south 9 had not existed at that specific incident might not have happened. but if
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some 9 had not acted from us would be much stronger than it is today. it was when you are sanctioned by the you, as you said, quote, i urge all government to do everything to protect me legally. so there's this kind of a stop. what are your relations right now with these really a for which is i know that it's quite a to the toyota. i don't know all the developments, but i know and expect more precisely that the ministers in the government do everything they need to help me. because i'm not just asking them to take care of needs organization, i'm asking them to ensure that all citizens of the country can live here with freedom offers to the freedom to express themselves. so the freedom to protest, to voice their opinions out loud. and therefore, this should be something very, very important for my government that no one can apply this kind of pressure on the citizens of this country. let me the nozzle on friday, we expect the ruling by the international court of justice regarding the legality to was really presence in the westbank and many say that the court might,
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for us as well to withdrawal from israel calls today in some area. uh, what do you think about that and about this possibility. i mean with that shit, i'm sure that i want my government to have the independent ability to protect me without for an intervention. we don't need someone else to manage us just like the us has freedom to defend itself. just like russia has the freedom to defend itself . just like every country in the world has the freedom to defend itself. israel also needs that freedom in this type of control should be the prerogative and decision of these really government. we're not talking about the countries we're talking about international court, bulk of and no me an international law. if someone starts a war against you, you can conquer territory, you can fight them a south 9 was established after october 7th, and it involved what's happening in the gaza strip. and in this war,
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what's happening in to day and some are you saw of 9, doesn't need to express an opinion on that. and i know, as i said, we give our government the support. it needs to do whatever is necessary to ensure that we are safe here. i mean, kind of thank you very much for your time for your thoughts, for your ideas. we really appreciate. thank you. the, [000:00:00;00] the now you need your research typically from here to me, i think,
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you know what kim's in the book is that the nurses should see where it gets to the young showcase use the so i'm just going to the, by the ways that the boys, the the most new and that'll be for them. i'm not sure if this slaughter doesn't want that extra them for the but we're just going to see
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what it was around there. so sounds good. just so basically of course we need the last thing was, these really sounds good when we used to imagine we have support for someone who is this, we would show new people to the the i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people, a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to makes
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a truck rather than fit the barriers job. i mean with the artificial intelligence we have so many of them in the a robot must protect this phone. existence was alexis, the what is part of the, the employee would post good. isn't the deepest view of us and good in the word part, is it something deeper, more complex might be present?
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