tv Cross Talk RT July 22, 2024 2:30am-3:01am EDT
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that's the truth. you look for movement, the spots you, they go for you, the psychological effects to ease silvia during brief spells of clive, we move trees to ruin. buildings never fall from cover. the train station where in a rush, but this is who most was said to go to the 26th 26th at cv, drove the last vitality to the full ukraine was catastrophic. it's allowed russian forces to sweep beyond capturing village,
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often village. and so every ukrainian drone, a russian one flies right back of the least little pace of technological evolution is striking. never before have druids being utilized in such numbers. and with such intensity, dozens upon dozens, every hour, every day, just you know, to date, you know, a new and terrible way of rule that is here to stay for i'd gas v of odd sieve from i to the to the then the people's republic. that's right, got us because we get back to some of the updates. now the news that's been reaching us just this hour here at most goes now what $931.00 here, a bloss is blown upon. a provincial shopping center in russia is a southern region of crass not
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a major part of the building has collapsed some local employees of fia to still be under the rubble. emergency services are on the scene. there are reports that at least 10 people have been injured. officials say that a gas explosion spot, the fire that's now been extinguished. but bringing more updates as we get them here on archie, international of the for the present outcry, regional structures all the way down to the black sea. it's a favorite hot spot for the tourists, for example. and the fuse yes. up the local venue. and so a lot of opinions in that part of the southern russia, or for the meantime, we back soon top of the our, this is all to international use, continues in about 25. the
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hello, and welcome to cross top boulevard. and john peter live out here, we discussed some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to an end, given the forces arrayed against him from says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast, rent the gamble, which can be found on youtube and local stand in america. we have martin j. he is and award winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman crossed up rules and the fact that news can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated quite, let's kick it off with george included as well. it's becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we have heard that from said throughout the campaigns that he would end the conflict and ukraine in 24 hours. he's even given a coffee out recently before he was or not, i'll get rated if he is victorious and november. and in looking at the convention,
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but there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neal cons, very well known individuals lives, chaney and bill crystal ball, ryan, and many, many others like pens. they weren't in there. j. d. vance was there. mike. tom pale was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know, trump is his election prospects are looking good. um and so we have to think hard about the reality that he may inherit this more than biting started slave. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining and i'm big you, it's a us do well in the 1st that is what exactly america 1st really means. but in the 2nd place, how you will resolve this problem that in ukraine because it goes and
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yes, there are other people like a j, the vans. they take it to me in the very 1st we, we focus on america's problems. we don't waste our resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime, but they're all is, well there, room such as you get a powerful congressional chem and like mike them a cool and their idea of america for us is what we go in and we own like button to ukraine, the tools to finish the job. so that is that yeah, yeah. the other, you know, what trunk will do is very different from the little button book. he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite of what uh, trump has been saying there's a trunk has been lighting by without having to exactly spell that out. i mean, they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute. like getting frederick flights and uh keeps catalog. um but the
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trump has never worked endorsed any of those plans. so yes, he says he is going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that you know final got to have uh, been think of the will will look like. yeah, learn you. i think it was on friday, the drum had a conversation with the, the now illegitimate president of ukraine zalinski and the read out from both sides was kind of boiler plate them. it was an excellent, perfect telephone, fell on his with his trunk like sikes to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing, nothing was specified. no details where's best buy, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to a put in this and repeatedly about how many goes asians because i know the details
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were given except that they weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. well, they were in agreement to the idea of trump waiving his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape but nothing, nothing further than that. no details because i don't think some of the details at this point. you know, random, i'll see you soon because if you're into the landscape position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's a little bit like shaking hands with the devil. you know, one minute from can be of for the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy if you just don't react the way you would need to direct all the time and respect his particular requirements when it, when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably this risky is trying very carefully. i mean, it's interesting that it had a conversation because as you know, everybody is now just assuming that we're gonna have trumping the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made
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a long time ago, these gonna fix ukraine in 24 hours. and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very suitable restore approach to it that i think the official statement was let us know by really stick, you know, and trump made the statement before about fixing them. at least when he was president and the facts. you know, it's sort of them hacks like me who actually looked at them at least and say, well actually, if you have not done what you did with this, well i'm, i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you didn't go and show in the from comp elizabeth took in regards to a brown the codes and shifting the capitals and acknowledge the westminster hiring more code. all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because link the to, you know, think when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture. i think october, the 7th was a huge. i'm circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm proud of that was they go sold down the river with the
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bombing codes by everybody, including the harps, you know, so i think he's in a pickle and i will in myself to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was years ago that he was so ukraine warning today because he would just throw it up and say, right, you know, i'm going to more might the end of us funding and not more or less would be the silver bullet, but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think, i think what we're seeing reality is that he will pull off a seesaw in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that is can be very, very difficult because there are a whole bag of complications the, which was the initially when he made those statements. one of which this has been mentioned by george, his daddy vaughan's who doesn't give it to the who it's about ukraine. i'm but is 6 thing up the rest right now to will say, well, i'm in china. and so that complicates things even further with russia, signing any sort of a piece deal in ukraine. you know,
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there's lots and lots of news now, and that's always a good copy of that. we mentioned on this program and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want. but if for us, it isn't at the table. we've been in it just say, hey, let's utility georgine unit. i pointed out in the past. and maybe it's a um, a material detail, but when trump has said, you know, he wants this resolved before he is a now get ready to this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach, but i've always felt and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement is this the call despite who's wards in the distance and south of from it. and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. it maybe that's just read a reach and reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean, who is famously, i think daniel patrick moynihan told richard nixon just as he was taking office in
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january 1969. that unless you bring this war and the time to an end in no time. and so this will be known as nixon's war. but until then, it has been johnson's will and now is going to be nixon's well, and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to in the media of conclusion. alex was t then god blamed for the war, and i think trump consciously or unconsciously, it is thinking along those lines that are in no time a tool and the democrats, or very, very good at the elliptical marketing will say, hey, this is drum floor. trump has made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end is actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he, once again this office planes. but it's either easier said than done now leave the issue or well, you know what, and then their suggestions of this from being the boss and their suggestions of
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this from this fred flights. and that keeps kilo go road was paid before the might of already. so as far as is, is that, well, what they're going to do is go to the lens and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cut off your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say, well, unless you show up to this phone present and clearly indicate that you want to uh and as well, we're gonna double our assistance to ukraine. so i think that they've been very queued um. but then the, even if this happens, even if the, you know, and that's a possibility of, of, i get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realized, is that the days of the, these, these conferences without russia are over. i think you've come, willing says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend, but even if that happens, then where do we go from? yeah, yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place. but what would be the point of that?
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the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is all involved this one buying is that he doesn't care about nato. and so that whole issue of, oh, we're, you know, open the door to nato for you. great. you know, every country has a right to decide the joining a control doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both of those, your installing the, the whole, the more so george of the mark right now, nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day, at the end of the day. that's what it's going to be, they can, they can have all of their p, r, and they're complaining and trump proofing and all that. but once the word is out from washington, nato will follow ok. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean, if we will, next we can be around to, i mean, since you're pretty small, people certainly much smaller people to may follow these events. so i'm out running a list, but up it's a say that is native is on our self destruction, cause i think, um, i don't think trump would have any, probably been going down in history being the capitalist who bought that about you
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know, he, the protocol from scott, is that whichever way he moves he's going to come from a full own collision with europe and is there it is so many signals. now the americans are heading to the trade will in europe. trump on funds now want to, um, hike up tires with china. effects on a whole lot of goods right across the will not only with china, but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that doesn't have delivery. so you said that, you know, america basically is nathan nitro is america, if he has a massive ton from and cents to the present scalar, you're not only having normal aid from america. you have a normal aid from nato and from the big players individually in europe, that could be a huge game changer that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that i think you were referring to, but the meetings on the phone go sorry, between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details and found list for the 10th. one of them was the full key
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regions, you know, which are and, and, and the disputes and was a, so then scale gives them up. it's rich and the best is, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in my view, go from being a friend to so we from and the reaction to that was going to be, well, you are the problem now, so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is lucy's golf course is that is due to them see, you know, you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore. yeah. how much longer than that go for when you have these international piece conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge are showing our viewers very clearly health problem may drums, problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on try and you quite and stay with our to the
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the welcome back across that boulevards. i'm beautiful though, dear. we're discussing some real news. okay. george, i need to back to you. so come question in peace. don't worry to crate. you might think though, we should remember that. okay. more of it. you know, it looks at it very with any varies with this very silver mine, but buying this entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless. and people are attached to this. i mean, it's pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, made the effort to the, and it's like the strategic to feed on russia is just as real now as it was for years charge. so that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise. but come, because the republican party, along with the democrats,
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um, supports this war and i mean by the republican, but being on big, large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that's 61000000000 dollar package where ukraine uh was passed um a few weeks ago. um basically, you know, the, the senate republicans fall off the congressional republicans supported it. so that's really a trumps problem, that if, if he does go down this path, if it decides to bite the bullet and this and it goes along and says, well this, this, when you brand, it makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks, even though he goes up to speed consistently thinks that says way, it's like same. so therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america with our interest. let's just bring it to an end. he is going to come into conflict immediately with him to the congressional republicans. and they are very unhappy about that because the input, the other was,
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well now say we need to do you agree and everything is needs to get the job done to the feed russia. so ultimately he's going to have to be able to confront this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue and a for, let's do it. let's remember who's of his own speaker, you know, mike and like, but he doesn't, you know, mike johnson, he's the one to push that 61000000000 dollar package for ukraine. so you're going to keep him happy. is it so it's going to be very difficult for him and you mentioned about the impeachment. yeah, that's a real possibility. i mean the lead people like lindsey graham and, and michael mccaul and all the rest of them. they're not just going to sit still and, and watch. uh you, ukraine was, they said, oh we the craze being sold down the river. we're getting boots and everything. we george and we see the russian gate rearing its ugly headache and they'll rush. it
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gave him a deer. okay. this is already in the mix right now. more than, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike from pale he actually spoke at the, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or uh, uh, appropriate to himself what america 1st is, which is definitely complete. diametrically opposed to what someone like from and well, from what we know of advanced, but there were other people around john rad flip robert o'brien, rick right now. um, i don't see them going along with the trump vance vision here. i mean, we can say that it is going to be congressional resistance, but even within his administration, if he's thinking about my own pay or mark, oh, rubio. oh i, i don't. yeah, i would think that the, the, the, the impeachment process would be set up in january. he's got some problems. he
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definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly soto and visions. and earlier on when he made this a re, the simplistic statements. but you credit your credit isn't going to be resolved in a day or a week or, or, or i think in months i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump, in his new administration. what was interesting for me about the conference is the 3 brits who turned up. i'm not sure if i would just trust them both. don't see what really shocked me. it really did. opens that i'm a jewel. just let me further drill. i couldn't not believe pizza, how much time trump gave devoris johnson and the restaurants remote. this with the british press, the wrong articles and the independence saying basically the bar as johnson is more or less convinced from that. so he needs to can continue the campaign with ukraine and against russia. i'm the front of the him gets pressed, covers the fact the, the lowest johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication,
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but he's not quite so gun. how and quite so binary now on new kinds he was before. he's prepared to work with some of the people around the well to a very close to ukraine is i of course don't some golf to be was less he's by really has to pick up. people just have a big that's really how can you, i just think, boy, just jesse around the well, just basically, you know, promote seeing your cravings. let's get. it's not the old one. he's not either, but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way. but it, so we, we might be surprised. we might be surprised, but actually trump reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to find the right solution, which gives him still the price from the and the, the, the international procedure. they need the way this thing about the whole thing of your credit for me is you have this relationship between a trump on 210. and one has to ask this question. what's it based on?
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is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries that creates another as a real control over real state, whatever. or is it just an operation, or is it the wrong by do the russian secret service? they've got all sorts of things on from the he's worried about age. it's really amusing how this continues, but i just don't see how it felt like, i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean, why should the united states and love should be enemies? why over? yeah, well, yeah, of them george. so that's exactly right. and i think that instinctively trump on the still the, when the cold war came to an end and the book, but the well what, what, what's, what's this of the football um, i don't think that there's any real um, relationship between from and russia. i think it was the late, steven co and your supply down. you know, trump is actually one of the few kind of leading business men in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in roster a another. you know,
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he's talked about various projects building of trump. uh, but he's never really uh, pull that, oh, i think that's he does see russia as a potential ally against china. he believes, and brands believes that china is a moving thread and that, and that's, and they basically have to have to mobilize a really alliance the extensive, you know, if it's still worth having, you have to mobilize it against the china. i think he would like to downgrade the europeans in those as well. look at we, we will contain russia, but you do that that's, that's your task. and other idea of europeans like, you know that that's what you need to focus on. we will focus on china, is that what we we will reorient though, so those 2 contain china in asia. i think that's what he would like. um, ukraine is just as a message here with you and you know,
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you can either way it has to be resolved, but um, you know, the but it was like so, you know, because 6 to oregon and so far is johnson. so your van goes to the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah, trump told me he's gonna bring this to an end on full of confidence that you know, he knows as though he's gonna bring it to an end. um and then the bar is done. so it says, yeah, i'm absolutely confident going to drop those off to do with you crate. so does that feel as if joseph looked from just sent that tells you his name. so lucky it does what they want to hit, or if i'm not able to was going to come to an end of the test to bring it to an end, hidden in by, by the time he is in order to write the bar as john. so does he have to go guy trump season he's with us on the need so he's got to do well, you're going to see the role is the made disappoint to everyone. and i think that somebody yeah. who bring? you know, so we've talked about what barnes johns and things and j. d. vance. and maybe what trump saying they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, that's a very good point. the other thing that the,
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if you look at the, like the origin of patient and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union, and america coming close together and even russia becoming a lot of nature. i think he's our deal and so his role ideology is to grow us. it should be both of us. it should be integrated more, you know, so from a business point of view, from a group, this group point of view from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe put in is a little more, but i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen name, but keeping martin, i mean i, you know there's, there's the anesthesia is to all of this. i mean, i'm, if you look at it at a distance, you know, i'm good was very kind of a much more liberal when he started out then in this chain. why? because the west is a club in russia is not invited. certainly thing. i mean, what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think does include the most,
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i think what i think trump i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean your, we even had the, the, the of, or administer loved it off is that you can actually me something i said to you when they come with this in part of the contract and you agree and started, this is going to be a breach of covering and generation generations. george. yes, i think that that's right. i do think, oh, the russians would like the the to written to some kind of uh no mallet the normal races, but we'll trade trade. yeah, exactly, but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time really in the foreseeable future. and the thing that's because one of your has decided to do your business either to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire go to europe in continents against russia, is done it without any real concern for its own interest. but either. so it is
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mobilized any style going to be very, very difficult for all that has happened. i'll throw, you know, all of sending all of this and military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult, very well. ok. what do you really mean if let's, let's go back to the good old days of what good old days will be held with cole and the boy is the old to know on, give them the bill and the young boots and just isn't going to happen. and, and i think of that, so let me get them. i think you some ideas of your hopes along the russians that well, maybe we can do that, but that's just not all. marvin finish it up for the last 30 seconds. go ahead. i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels that live on the land is now going to have another 5 years in part. what does that tell you about health and stuff that the european solution to a european problem? good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table. i'm talking about,
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you know, getting more gun, who were china and, and pulling more money off to good money into the trained black hole. you know, um it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in a long time there's gonna be some sort of resolution in the countries and much else more. you know, other, you know what you're stuck with unfortunately, but cups on yours, you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck on. we heard a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around on a think, my guess in budapest, in may of america actually, and of course i want to think of yours for watching you. c r t c. next time. remember across stuff was the, [000:00:00;00]
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