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these men and the church official is the, is there any going above the discomfort that is part of the major eastern politics and all those countries are actually guard feature that states. unfortunately, they have their own record in uh, as in the interest of the see today is the fee towards this contract to them and to the best. so i don't think so that there will be a kind of pressure from the, from the international community as well. and them in their lives and continue to step up. my son is mobbing behind the channel came back to him a different, but he's been out of country. let me that some other countries to put some kind of pressure on. those are the government and on the western order as well. so the 1st responsibility and the 1st priority of them is there and it is certainly sir, middle eastern, the mysteries and governments over there shouldn't be into some of our former friend. airlines are kind of for landscape is on the back porch and put it under the pressure so that they can resolve this issue. and then the rest of the
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the hello and welcome to cross top boulevard and john peter a little here we discussed some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to it. in given the forces arrayed against him from says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he is a pond cast forensic capital which can be found on youtube and local stand in america. we have martin jay, he is and award winning journalist and commentator for a gentleman cross up rules and the fact that news can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated quite let's kick it off with george and booted as well. it's becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we have heard that from say throughout the campaigns that he would end the conflict
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in ukraine and 24 hours. he's even given a call the recently before he was or not, i'll get rated if the victorious and november. and then looking at the convention, so there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neal cons, very well known individuals lives, chaney and bill crystal ball, ryan, and many, many others like pens. they weren't there. j. d bans was there. mike pompeo was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know, trump is his election prospects are looking good. um and so we have to think hard about the reality that he may inherit this for the binding started space. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining and i'm big usa s do well in the 1st that is what exactly america 1st really means. but in the 2nd
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place, how if you will resolve this problem that in ukraine because it goes and yes, there are other people like a j d vans. they take it to me in the very 1st we, we focus on america's problems. we don't waste the resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime, but they're all is well there and such as we get a powerful congressional chem and like mike them a cool and their idea of america for us is what we go in and we own like button to your credit and the tools to finish the job. so that is that, yeah, yeah, the, you know, what trump will do is very different from of buying book. he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite of what trump has been saying. there's a trump has been dividing by without having to do exactly spell out. i mean,
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they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute. like going frederick flights and uh keith kellogg. but the trump is not working those to any of those plans. so yes, he says he's going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us, some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that you know, final kind of, uh, anything of the will will look like. yeah. line you, i think it was on friday that uh trump had a conversation with uh, the now illegitimate president of the grange zelinski. and the readout from both sides was kind of boiler plate them. it was an excellent, perfect telephone spell of his with his drum, like sikes, to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing, nothing was specified. no details where's best, like, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to
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a business and repeatedly about how negotiations. cuz i know the details were given except really weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. what they were in agreement to the idea of trump waiving his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape, but nothing, nothing for us has not no details because i don't think some of the details at this point. you know, random, i think it's good because if your insurance gets position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's a little bit like say, you know, to the devil, you know, one minute from can be of for the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy if, if you just don't react the way you was needed to direct all the time and respect his particular requirements when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably with as an excuse, trying very carefully amazing, simply had a conversation because you know,
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everybody is now just assuming that we're gonna have trump in the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made a long time ago. these going to fix your credit and in 24 hours. and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very suitable restore approach to it. that i think the official statement was like, it's nobody really stick, you know, and trump made this statement before about fixing them, at least when he was president. the fact, you know, it's sort of them hacks like me to actually look at them at least and say, well actually, if you have not done what you did with this well, and i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you didn't go and show in the trump comp elizabeth took in regards to abraham accords and shifting capitals, and they know, as you went into how in more code all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because linked to, you know, st. when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture, i think october,
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the 7th was a huge. i'm circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm part of that was that they go sold down the river with the obama codes by everybody, including the harps, you know, so i think to, he's in a pickle and i will in myself to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was years ago that he was so ukraine ward and died because he would just turn up and say, right, you know, have any more might the end of us funding and not more or less would be the silver bullet. but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think, i think what we're seeing reality is that he will pull off a seesaw in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that it's can be very, very difficult because there are a whole bag of complications the which one that initially when he made those statements, one of which this has been mentioned by georgias j. d buns. who doesn't give a to, i don't about ukraine and i'm, but it is 6 thing up the rest right now to will say,
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well, i'm in china. and so that complicates things you feel as a, was russia signing any sort of a piece. deal in the craig is lots and lots of news now. and that's always the cab the that we mentioned on this program. and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want, but the pressure isn't at the table even then it's just a utility, georgine, you and i pointed out in the past. and maybe it's a um, immaterial detail. but when trump has said, you know, he wants this resolved before, he is a now get ready to this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach, but i've always felt, and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement. is this the call despite who's ward's in degree and he does things in south of from it. and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. i think maybe that's just read
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a reach and then reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean, who is famously, i think daniel patrick moynihan told richard nixon just as he was taking office in january 1969 the unless you bring this lauren via tom to it in no time. that's all this will be known as nixon's war. but until then, it has been johnson's will, and i was going to be nixon's well, and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to in the media of conclusion. alex was, he then got blamed for the war and i think trump consciously or unconsciously. it is thinking along those lines that he notes. i am a tool and the democrats, or very, very good at the political marketing will say, hey, this is drums floor. trump has made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end is actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he wants to again this office planes. but it's
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a little easier to send them down now. um the, the issue of, well, you know what? and then their suggestions of this from being the boss and their suggestions of this from this fred flights and that keeps cat local road was paid before the might of thought. and so, as far as it is, is that, well, what are they going to do is go to the lens and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cut off your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say, well, unless you show up to the strong presence and clearly indicate that you want to end as well, we're going to double our assistance to ukraine. so they think that they've been very queued um. but then the, even if this happens, even if the, and that's possibility of a, they get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realizes that the days of it is based on process without russia are over. i think you've drunk william says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend. but even if that happens,
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then where do we go from here? yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place. but what would be the point of that? the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is all involved, fish from buying is that he doesn't care about nato. and so that whole issue of where, you know, open the door to nato for ukraine. you know, every country has a right to decide and joining a control doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both on was yours. ok . they get hold of more. so george of the market right now, nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day at the end of the day. that's what it's going to be. they can, they can have all of their p, r and they're complaining and trunk proofing and all that. but once the word is out from washington, nato will follow. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean is we'll nectarine be around to, i mean, since you're pretty small, people certainly much smaller people to me, photos of them. so now writing and this up, it's a say that is made. so it was on
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a self destruction course. i think um, i don't think some would have any problem me going don't history being the capitalist who bought that about you know, he, the bronx on school. is that whichever way he lose he's going to come from a full own collision with you or is there is so many signals. now the americans are heading to the trade will near of trump on funds. now want to, um, hike up tires with china. effects on a whole lot of goods right across the will not only with china, but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that they have the leverage. so you said that, you know, america basically is night at night. it was america if he has a massive time from an cents to the present scalar, you're not only having nimble aid from america. you have a mental aid from nato. and you from the big players individually in europe, that could be a huge game changer that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that i think you're referring to,
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but the meetings on the phone go sorry, between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details and gentlest photon. one of them was the full key regions, you know, which are and, and, and the dispute and was a, so then you would give them up. it's written the message, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in life, you go from being a friend to the so withdrawn. and the reactions of that was going to be, well, you are the problem now. so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is lucy's golf course is that is due to me see, you know, you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore. yeah. how much lower than that go on for when you have these international piece conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge showing our viewers very clearly health problem. ag drums problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on from and you can say without
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the water is a part of the leg. is it a party would post isn't the the place you of us and that in the word? or is it something deeper, more complex might be present good. let's stop without cases. let's go products. hi, i'm rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. listed of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department to see i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and
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whatever you do. don't want marshall stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way and say the welcome act across the old woman's. i'm beautiful though dear, were discussing some real news. okay, george, i need to go back to you. so come course in in peace. don't worry to credit. you might think though, we should remember that. okay. more of it, you know, it looks at it very with any varies with a very sober mind. but buying this entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless. and people are attached to this. i mean, it's pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, made the effort to inflict the strategic defeat on russia is just as real now as it
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was for years charge. so that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise. but come, because the republican party, along with the democrats, um, supports this war and i mean by the republican, but being a big, large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that's 61000000000 dollar package where ukraine was passed um, a few weeks ago. um, basically, you know, the, the senate republicans fall off the congressional republican supported it. so that's really a trumps problem. that if he does go down this path, if he decides to bite the bullet and this, and that goes along and says, well, this, this, what were you brand? it makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks, even though you're those of been consistently think that says way and 6 name. so
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therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america, with our interest. let's just bring it to and then he is going to come into conflict immediately with it into the congressional republicans. and they are very unhappy about that because the input, the other was, well now say we need to do you agree and everything is needs to get the job done to the feed brush up. so ultimately he's going to have to build a good to confront this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue . and a for, let's do it with us. remember who's of his own speaker? you know, michael, mike, but he doesn't, you know, mike johnson, he's the one to push that 61000000000 dollar package for ukraine. so you're going to keep him happy. is it so it's going to be very difficult for him. and you mentioned about the impeachment. yeah. that's a real possibility. i mean the lead people like lindsey graham and, and michael mccaul and all the rest of them then are just going to sit still and,
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and watch. uh you, ukraine was they said, oh we, you crazy being sold down the river. we're getting boots and everything we george, we see the russia gate rearing its ugly headache and they'll rush. it gave him a get. okay, this is already in the mix right now, martin, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike pompei o, we actually spoke of a, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or appropriate to himself. what america 1st is, which is in government complete diametrically opposed to what someone like from and but from what we know of advancement, there are other people around johnny rad flip robert o'brien, rick right now. um i called so you can going along with um the uh, trump vans vision here. i mean, if we can say that it is going to be congressional resistance, but even within his administration, if he's thinking about my pay or mark,
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oh rubio. oh i, i don't know, i would think that the, the, the, the impeachment process would be set up in january. he's got some problems. he definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly soto and visions around when he made this a re is over simplistic statements, but you credit your credit isn't going to be resolved in a day or week or, or, or, i think in months i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump and his new administration. what was interesting for me about the conference is the 3 brits who turned up. no, you found this trust and both johnson what really shocked me. i really didn't open that. i'm a jewel, just let me father feel i couldn't not believe peter. how much time trump gave to burst on some of the restaurants really milk this with the british pressed the wrong articles in the independent saying basically the lowest johnson is more or less convinced from that. so he needs to can continue to campaign with ukraine
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against russia. and the front of the even gets pressed, covers the fact that the lowest johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication, but he's not quite so gun. how and quite so binary. now on new kinds us before. he's prepared to work with the other people around the well to a very close to you find news i of course don't to the golf to be i was landscape. i really have to pick up. people just have a big that's really how can you, i just think, boy, just jesse around the well, just basically, you know, promote seeing your cravings. let's get this. not the old one. he's not either, but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way, but it's we, we might be surprised. we might be surprised, but actually trump reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to find the diplomatic solution which gives him still the price. i'm the and the, the,
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the international prestige they need to wear this thing about the whole thing of your credit for me is you have this relationship between a trump on 210. and one has to ask this question. what's it based on? is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries the pitching of that as a real control over re state whatever or is it just an operation, or is it the wrong by do the russians secret service? they've got all sorts of things on from the he's worried about age. it's really amusing how this continues, but i just don't see how it so i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean, why should the united states and rush should be enemies? why over? yeah, well, yeah, of them short. so that's exactly right. and i think that's the look instinctively trump on this stuff. but when lee colewell came to an end and the book, but the well what, what, what's, what's this of the football? i don't think that there's any real um relationship between from and russia. and i
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think it was the least steven co and just to point out there, no, trump is actually one of the few kind of leading business men in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in russia. i already know the, you know, he's talked about various projects building a trump top, but he's never really uh, pull that. oh, i think that's. yeah. he does see brush up as a potential ally against china. he believes and vans believes that china is a moving threat and, and that's, and they basically have to have to mobilize them really alliance the extensive, you know, if it's still worth having, you have to mobilize it against the china. i mean, i think he would like to downgrade the europeans in those as well. look at we, we will contain russia, but you do that, that, that's your task. and other idea of europeans that you know that that's what you need to focus on. we will focus on china, is that what we,
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we will reorient those. so those 2 contain china in asia. i think that's what you would like. ukraine is just as a mess it here with you. and you know, you can either way, it has to be resolved, but um, you know, the but it was like so you know, because 6 to oregon and so far is johnson. so video go around goes through the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah. trump told me he's going to bring this to an end, not full of confidence that you know, he knows as though he's going to bring it to an end. um and then the bar is done so says yeah, i'm absolutely confident deal. uh drunk those up to do is you crate. so what does that feel as if joseph look from just sent that tells it his name. so lucky it does what they want to hit, or if i'm not able to, the was going to come to an end of the test to bring it to an end. hidden in by, by the time use a in order to write the bar as johnson's as yet prompt to go. guy trump, the season is with us on the need. so he's going to do your gods. you think the wrong is the made disappoint to everyone?
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and i think that somebody, if you don't mind me bring, you know, so we've talked about what barnes johns and things and j. d. vance. and maybe what trump saying they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, that's a very good point. the other thing that the, if you look at the, i see all of the patient and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union, and america coming close together and even russia becoming of nature. let's think he's our deal and so his rule ideology is that russia should be both aware, so it should be integrated more, you know. so from a business point of view, from a group, this group point of view from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe puts in as a little longer. i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen name without you being martin. i mean, i, i, you know, there's, there's the antecedents to all of this. i mean, um, if you look at it at a distance the, i'm good was very kind of a much more liberal when he started out,
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then in this chain. why? because the west is a club in russia is not invited. certainly thing. i mean, what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think does include your most of the time i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean your, we even had the, the, the, the foreign minister loved it off the items that you can actually me something i said to you when they come with this and part of the contract, then you agree and started. this is going to be a breach of covering and generation generations. george. yes, i think that that's right. i do think, oh, the, the russians would like the the to written to some kind of uh, no mileage and no more races but well, trade, right? yeah, exactly, but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time really in the foreseeable future. and i think that's because one of your has decided to do your business. i'd have to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire,
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going to europe in continents against russia, is done it without any real concern for its own interest. but he, this is mobilize, that he's style going to be very, very difficult for all that has happened. i'll throw, you know, sending all of this military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult. oh, okay, what do you really mean if, let's, let's go back to the good old days of it. what good old days will be scaled. elmwood colon, the bar is the old general on gillum colon, the young boots and just isn't going to happen and, and then they give that to it and then they get them. i think you some ideas of your hopes along the lessons that maybe we can do that, but that's just not all a large me finish it up for the last 30 seconds. go ahead. i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels that live on
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the land is now going to have another 5 years in part. what does that tell you about health and stuff? that's a european solution to a european problem. good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table. i'm talking about, you know, getting more gun, who were china and, and pulling more money off to good money into the ukraine. black hole, you know, it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in a long time it's going to be some sort of resolution in the countries and much else more, you know, the, you know, what's, what's stuck with it unfortunately. but the cops only. yes, you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck on. we heard a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around on. i think my guess in budapest, in mary america hash and i will course, i want to think i'd be worse for watching you. c r t c. next time. remember across stuff was the
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from july 26th until august, the 11th 10500 assets from all over the globe will gather to compete in the summer olympics and paris france. however, present crones snap decision to dissolve. parliament has not only raise the risk of political and rest, but also security concerns for those involved with a game. this cannot come at a worst time as the international olympic committee is being called, hypocritical, and their branding of russian and bella roost athletes due to the ongoing conflict and ukraine, while ignoring the conflict in the middle east. at this point, one event which is suppose to unite the world in the near.

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