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of local analysts and will aspects of the region. it is opposed by one of the tool reg rebel fights as in ukrainian novelist message to ukrainian brothers. do you ukrainian brothers? we, the armed forces of the csp, the one to express, our solidarity with your fight against russian criminals. we have captured a significant number of wagner's mercenaries and would like to hand over these captive to you as a sign of support. and so he diety, these jester is intended to help you in your fight for justice and freedom. we hope that this will contribute to the strengthening of our ties and our shared victory with all our supports, the csp, the be armed forces. now one important detail to understand about this man is that while he's quite known on twitter, he is also known to be not within the chain of command of the 2 or a good rebels. end of the tory community. a pathway is just a, just a pair of boots on the ground, but it's not the 1st time that he has publicly reached out to the ukrainian authorities in their native language via twitter of police. then now he's made
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a very sweet proposition to well work. something out about delivering are these captured, wagner sizes allegedly captured back, the fight is to ukraine. so this is a very large scale attack that has been carried out very, very professionally. the place and time was chosen almost perfectly, if not to say flawlessly. so what they did that it does bring this to bring them to another level and now whoever, whether it's the training that they had had before, or whether it's somebody else on the ground who was a mid the rank is to help them, you know, carry out this attack still it does showcase that the turing fight as the 2 are grapples and now they're a very different breed of fights. and then when then they used to be and so well it is not because they somehow evolve themselves. but from what we can understand and
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from all the evidence that we can see here, they are being actively helped side is our rundown of the day is new source. so thought check back is nice, but any add all up tables in the meantime, cross full self into the brain negotiations. what a powerful trump presidency would maintenance on the hello and welcome to the cross stuck on peter la bellevue. we discussed some real things. there was talk and maybe only talk you great is interested in a negotiated into the conflict. what does drugs have to do with this? also, what a harris administration take
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a different position on the golf of genocide. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, steven guides and bell rate. he is a research associates at build rates, institute of european studies, and in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he is an international legal analyst or a gentleman, prospect rules that affect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. i start out with steve and, you know, it's interesting over the last i'd say 2 weeks. we've had a lot of different um, noise being made, people can call it that. we had a vatican envoy on void 2 p a. and so as he's saying this more must come to an end . we had a picture of a photo bond doing um, being a real globetrotter going to get going to moscow going to be using and then to be shown when he got back to europe. and then curiously, we have drums still say that he can end the war and the war before he is inaugurated. if elected, we have precious
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a little information on that. and then we had some of the likes of mike pompei o show up at the republican national convention, basically wanting to trail double down triple down wide, triple down. completely at odds that went from seemingly his said, but, but there is something going on here. and i think it has to do with the american election, your thoughts exactly. it has to do with the american election, but also with the american grabs strategy. because the americans cannot, they realized over the last 2 years that they can not lead to major wars or be behind 2 major wars at the same time. so what we see with the possible trump return might be that they want to shut down the premium of the eastern european conflict for awhile and to complete the costs and trace on nothing. yahoo has planned to conquer the middle east uh to spread the war. uh so what is really important is the
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message that the napa was sent to the congress. it is also imposing most of that to a lot of colors and did not very come, but still have the have she had a very warm welcome after 10 months. busy busy of feeling but similarly goes in some diligence. so uh, i think the trump and the west in general, once a stalemate in your brain, which i don't think the directions are going to 12 or that a so their whole game, i think in a way is based on uh, several completely false assumptions. they are behaving live role sheet brokers, assuming that surveys are going to happen for instance. assumption number one is that the russell was to negotiate. first of all, where i show does not have we've room to negotiate because after may 20th, it does not recognize the last key as a legitimate president after the 28th of august. that on the parliament to great
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also won't be legitimate. a body to negotiate with. so hoarding, i did go see it with and uh, why would they want to negotiate before the end of the go, the bills uh that uh they have set. and so this is the assumption number one that is based that it, or the one was the part from the racist thought that russia is going to bile to the white gods from capitol hill and brussels and then to whatever they like. and please, so that is one thing, but what we hear constantly from people in the west is that the, the current line of division is going to be the future border of 800 or sorry, the south korea kind of the supplement. where did they get this story from? so 10 that is there is one thing. uh, we will see what happens because i'm sure there's a lot of tension in into us, not maybe about the growth strategy,
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but about how to do that because you have for american badly. yeah, i mean, coordinated. yeah. russia, china, north korea and iran. and you have the american uh military as a potential. okay. you can walk me through. so i have to leave this war. so i, i honestly don't though. what really quality, but one thing, one thing is for sure is, is that the, the client state, let me throw this out. xander. now the client state ukraine sees the, the, the real possibility that there will be a change of power in, in the white house, at least, maybe not in the bureaucracy. and that they are, they want to hedge their bets. i mean they're, they're obviously see themselves in a very, very weak position. would you look at the news about the financial situation that it isn't giving enough coverage and the west me, ukraine is broke. i mean,
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in bad we broke and that there is no. um, you know, you can, you know, you're getting the interest from a russian ass that's, you know, 1300000000 here, 1400000000. that's not going to change their financial situation. and you praise. but it's, it's really interesting to me, is it because of the potential change of administration? you have people that are saying this is biden's ward with wind it down and then you have like people like my mike from pay. oh that, oh, this is really what we, we want to go back to a reagan foreign policy. there's a lot of different things going on at the same time. what are your thoughts exactly? so 1st let me and let me remember once again that to bring is not only broke financially is world politically drastically is no longer a southern states far as the some time ago. and at the present moment it is more than a felt state. it almost looks like somalia is the same style, but in europe,
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so it's not no more, no longer a matter all financially plus or shape. it has nothing to do with it. it has at the present only to do with the future of a country. and what country are we going to have in the matter up to 3 years? so what you brain are we going to have if any. so this shouldn't be the point to be discussed presently. then at the same time, i think that we should focus on the very specific aspects of american politics. because as we all know, the president of the united states has limited powers. g bad as he realized a lot on the congress. and i believe that it was due to this that my on bail came to public to give this guy the interview, stuck with the blood pressure pressure in donald trump. but at the same time, if we remember sam semel and donaldson speech scenario last 6 to 7 months ago, she was defending and supporting the decision of a land lease to break. no, he wants to put and then to this. but what kind of, and does he want to,
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what do we know that he can approve? he can adopt several executive orders, but no more than that. you will need the support of the congress to make the best any kind of plan or project for you brand new in war presently, which i have to remember. it's a long term war, a new brand, since 2014. so it's not only concerning the rush yet, this plan must cover at the same time, aspects of all this. so if you bring in resistance, which is presently no longer, not fully active, but is way too strong in order to evolve the museum lensky against the wall. and makes seem at least accept any kind of peace deal is the west. just steps aside, leaving your brain alone. so no longer your brain has enough power to have award to have a say on this conflict. so i don't think i understood they, they've had this a say for a very long time. it, you know, stephen, but the, the,
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the variable or people like to say the 800 pound gorilla in the corner is quite visible in, in people in the west and policy makers ignore it, rushes already presented numerous times. it's a starting point for negotiations. no big deal with the the lead me obviously the ukrainians aren't happy about him. it's will cut their patrons and the west are not happy about it, but it is a starting point and that is a way this conflict can come to an end. but until up until the west recognizes the terms and conditions of starting negotiate next, this is up in this is debbie denny day. go ahead, steve. but for us that doesn't have any incentive to believe that the west is going to stick to any word or any deal because they had missed one and these 2 and then the number to the girl by that. but i mean, every thing, all the are, all the body arsenal was out there. and uh, i mean,
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starting with the deal that the, uh, the local, which uh, some of the flaws that far away with the, the western countries or the last it for less of by 4 hours. so i don't think the dresser is really motivated at this point where he's has a really huge leverage in the conflict. what i don't get is this discrepancy between what the west wants and what it can do. what the collective data, let's say was that what do you do? you have kids can do. so maybe co, um, let's say, uh, change in washington from by the to, from, from democrats. the republicans is to uh, to have a fresh start black and se, in this ongoing global war. i have said, yeah, did you meet with stephen? i? i think i agree with you in the fresh start. let me throw this to alexandra. now
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the press start. she read framing this conflict completely in that we naming is pan european security architecture that, that's actually a base saving measure it as well. if you think about it, like how do we, okay, we can all disagree and how we got here. but we were at the end, we have an in game where everybody has the indivisibility of security. i know that's a hard sell for western politicians because they don't even know what the word indivisible, in indivisibility of security means. but i think that is a starting point. of alexandria, it shows me but this, please remember that we have the so called rules based order. one that you about according to western concepts and idea, all of these means that whatever washington says, it must be followed by all other western european countries. so uh, it shouldn't be an easy ability, it also shouldn't be to prevail,
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the bracey fall of celebrating the quality. this is not only customary paysimple in international law, it's also enshrined in the shelter of the united nation. so therefore, i think that all this should be taken as an, as a starting point. but when we listen to the speech is of course live on that lie. and even during this week, suggesting that you want to harass them to sell into the, to deliver all the money from russian assets to, to support your branyon military efforts. i don't think that we are getting any, any place like that in the meantime, because they just want to pursue their just want to feed the war machine. and when do we end the same time? listen to the democrats, the democratic party, the alternative, which allegedly should be kamala, 1st, she likes good reason, and then she likes idea elegy, she's changing her opinion, depending on where the ball but alexander is that the perfect the vessel for the
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deep state. i mean, she's there waiting to edit it all. my goodness, the boy sheet okay with walker is like, alright gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about some real in stay with our team, the, [000:00:00;00] the,
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we don't wanna watch it because it might just change the wayne thing the welcome make across that time peter live out here. we discussed some wheels. all right, let's go back to steve that come over harrison so that he is the big name and the news right now. um, uh, i think it's really interesting how quickly everyone's forgotten, joe biden. that'll be something for the history books to discuss. okay. the reason why i wanted to talk about, you know, she made these, if he met with the benjamin netanyahu, this really prime minister when he was on is a man american tour that was cut short. um and um, you know, she said that she will not remain silent, which it, oh wow, really hit the bare with the bid sends, you know, a shock waves of around the eco system of those. so who's a support of israel and it's genocidal conflict in gaza? but, you know, it's, it's really interesting to me is that, you know,
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virtue signalling isn't going to do the trick here. ok. i mean, so much of american politics is about that. but there are, there are a number of people and you know, it could be 234 percent of the electorate, but that could make the difference in an election. they're not on team a genocide. so kamala harris, as we mentioned in the 1st part of the program, you know, lacking careers, were lacking in knowledge. but if it's a isn't good to get her, isn't gonna get her the votes that she needs. let's put it that way. go head to be exactly or her whole campaign looks to me. you mean uh, judging by the 1st uh video to be seen. uh, it looks like a bank piano, coca cola company as its its very core press. it's a, it's a, it's all in purchasing link and then that would be the language that she uses. she said that she knows the type of guy, the trump is. i mean, what is that suppose to mean it is that he's really, uh, is really interesting. i mean, because the democratic party has a big, i would say,
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i be a logical problem and is going to do some soul searching. i think even after this election, because a large portion of its, especially young boulders are completely, i guess the, the surface of boards supporting it. i wouldn't say only he's real but, but specifically that the knack was policies which are quite harsh as even by the guns would say suicide over these relative stakes. so uh, i think that's her campaign. and what would she do if, if she ever got elected, which i really doubt are 2 completely different things. and the very fact that uh, at the end of the day she met with the knack who is the volumes. so i think the
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main problem here for the americans is how to assert the dominant position that they are losing to they are not hiding anymore. and how to lead to or uh, perhaps in the future. 3 major complex uh the same time. so what they may be want to do, i, i be obviously this from the beginning is the pause one so that they could accelerate the, the other bile. so they'll know how is that possible? because even if, let's say israel past plays with lab or no, uh, possibly with the ron and the other icons says, uh, added the america gallery comes uh, where is the, in the game to this confident. uh, we even know solely looking at the numbers. uh, what is to come out of it? and i think that the, the, the answer to this question that doesn't have um and neither of the but that one se campbell, i think, you know, you had seen that it's really interesting. is it i agree with you, i mean,
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if there is no strategy here, there are a lot of tactics involved, but there's no strategy and that's why it's flailing. i'll, when we look at the conflict, the new grade and obviously the sample american backing of israel's genocide will campaign and gaza. oh it's under me. that's the fact that, that someone like kamala harris would say that, you know, um she, she wants to, she expresses empathy tube for what's happening to the palestinians. but that is actually an act of cowardice. because, you know, you'll be the chief executive, the dotted states as enormous power when it comes to a support of an individual country like israel. but she won't exercise it. okay. and it's very easy even saying that she will not be silent, shows an admission a big will. she might talk about it, but policy isn't going to change this. so think we're that buckled this, you know, appear to be for one of the simple reasons, is that kamala harris is part of the,
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by the ministration or the last 4 years, the have been totally supportive of israel along all these years. what has so then we change, besides the fact that now she needs to present to the public, the different speech. she must left forget that in united states, it's all about the donors. don't forget foot buffle joe by the door. the dollars only. they would take the whole don't mind and don't forget to buckle the news saying don't, there is no longer support to buy than dollars are asked and you run by them to step down us. so it's all about any leads. and at the same time, forget national goals, we have to focus on the swing states, and presently kamala is losing big time. all those falls in the spring state. so it comes up only to these elements. she needs to present to the public a totally different speech. don't also forget that kamala is frequent popular among
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the american billy communities. so she needs to bring something completely different because she knows she has been part of the problem. over the last 4 years, she supported blindly, all the solutions brought by the, by the restriction she is the, by the in administration. so we can forget that this change of his speech. i believe that the press should put some pressure on her, at least to ask her what kind of solution this to support. because coming to all the thing i want you to like mentor, you're, you're here, you're thinking lights of lawyer. okay. you are okay. i guess the but it's 5 already watched the media coverage here. all this is such a told him about it's unbelievable. i said after the, the democratic 2 against the body. i just said buckle up and embrace spray impact. you're going to see the greatest make over in such a short amount of time in a, in history, and we're seeing it or right now. okay. like i said, i'd say it's remarkable how joe biden is just been disappeared. i mean,
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he's gone today and we have a new administration bits of income, but it's really amazing what they're doing. okay. but they have his alexander pointed out, you know, it's basically michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and the year he and then with in those states themselves, it's certainly congressional districts. that's where she has a huge problem. and that's with the make over challenges all about, go ahead and see that exactly. i mean, the whole procedure of getting go from by the into harris was completely and then we'll grab it. and then we'll credit the procedure. because previously by the end of the unilateral of that and then the unified, the, sorry, uh, support of the democratic party. and then all of a sudden, uh, they own gets capitalized and realized after 4 years that he is indeed they might dementia. and uh, they realize that only during the debates. uh,
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but this probably was the worst, let's say, uh, that was the worst appearance of bite. and in general, i mean, she had some really good moments before the debate. and it seems all decided that they are because they were coordinated indeed efforts to, to get came off of the picture and put harris, which um, i mean, we can bill to have and try to figure out several z or is why is that? uh and whether there is a new consensus about that, the trump $2.00. uh that should uh, you know, make this fresh starts uh, when with the, with the complex re, it'd be, i tried to appease the ra, shows. uh and i tried to, but there's also, and the 2nd fault both is i'm trying to and with that is that russia, if it's samples or whatever b is the,
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was the well was that will for age will not help here on russia has already signed and he's already coordinated in the files way they're brought with syria, with north korea, which side with the in the potentially all this done and many other players in the me. but we only use describing, you know, what you're describing in, you know, i talked about this on this program before, is a, with we've been told that we were on the, on the verge of a 3rd world war. i would posit to both of you were already in the 3rd world war. exactly. tell me very start. yeah, exactly. we are and does their reward and ends the, the, the only question is, how to frame it, how to sell it. and what was good about trump is that, is she, is she, she was always a good salesman. so why don't he's talking points is that if i,
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when i will stop the 3rd world war, what he's saying is i will settle a deal with russia and focus on other parts. because the major problems from economy to the global security are not going to be settled with one piece deal. i think that the best well the right cuz i can't achieve at this moment, but i don't think they have the rationale or the this whole powerhouse wants to has any incentive to do that is to move to the historical example of the call sir, to break powers of game off. there's any bully on boards, but unfortunately i don't see niger aside in the american olives, they said political heart bowers spectrum rooting for him, increasing even. you know, that's one of the major ongoing motives of this program is having rationality and be because we'll be with global solve understands geo politics. the, the west is
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a pure a t test and that's why it doesn't work. alexander stephen is absolutely right to me. you know, i don't want to be try to anything, but we, when we look for a win win here, no, the west will not allow that. they will not be good for ideological reasons. alexander, personal if they want to collapse. so for us. yeah. and on all the blog that's present play is on the same side as russia. they have a mentality of funding to which they have to prevail. they want to double think a pollution from russia and it's spell eyes as simple as this. they don't want to leave the, in the peacefully, the peaceful way along with russia and all other countries they want the profile. they want to impose their ideals or they want be both in principles. it sadly is as simple as simple as this. they, they don't know how to lead along with any other different spaces along with other cultures. they don't know how to do it. that's why they are so allergic to the
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wording black at the blue, realistic world also to a model mindful arity is what they actually they do support, they will be able to in closing here, america 1st means whatever you want it to mean in the united states. map for most people means more to gemini, gentleman, that's all the time we have. what a thing my guess and lisbon in belgrade, or of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. or do you see you next time
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