the, the action or tenancy and welcome back to going underground broadcasting over on the world from the u. a. e. what's to become of us about sol western europe and now a month after elections, which proved how it's off. a 1000000000 population do not support it's a n t piece. negotiation lead is a recent poll showed close on 90 percent of the people of nature, belligerents like the usa, germany, and france and britain, once a negotiated peace in ukraine, while blinking his in tokyo today organizing paps and roll preparations against china with australia and the japanese and indian kinds of pods. the new head of the british army. meanwhile, times the u. k. has to be ready full war on russia, china,

iran, and north korea within 3 is joining me now from you. capital brussels is vx united nations assistant secretary general. michael, financial and bug is the elected m e p with the sar wagon, exact alliance or reason and justice party in the or if you're in bottom. and thanks so much for coming on for me. you end assistance equity general, you've uh, you mean warning of world war in recent weeks yesterday booting celebrated the power of the russian navy and that's well blinking is amazing. is maybe woman good . quad partners in tokyo, britain double down oh, more with rusher. it seems what is the schultz a position that let us live on the land, of course, who was re elected the head of the parliament to uh, is it like uh, i don't know they, they still think one guy though is the president of venezuela. i don't know if he has any real position. i say he seems to run always behind history and say yes off

to west everything. but that's the have a strategy behind it. i doubt it a much. i think the, the gym government is completely overburdened by, by this war and being engaged in this one. i don't think he himself is of them longer, but he ends up all the time to say yes and at something in addition. now i probably know more about the yorba bonham as what happens here than i know it's in germany. but um, but uh, i think germany is going to pay the price for, for this in the size of attitude. so we have to the wall, of course we have to have a piece piece, negotiations and things like this on the comp. i continue this rumbling around that we will, that'd be have to be ready for war. and the thing is, i guess, one of the things that you still, when the war and things like i said, it's completely unrealistic policy sizing. so when you're watching from brussel, even more than it was probably a year, a year ago when you're watching for brussels, boris, the story is the drum and the drum and the defense minister who's with johnny,

the bridge counterpart of the other day, comparing food into hit to a and, and this is tell me my boris based story is actually, i mean is good showed is deputy chief of stuff and the what, what does he mean? i mean that alone, that supporting israel to the hilt in a, in a village genocide, in this region. i seen you, i'm the wrong person. you're honest. i haven't lived in germany. and since 1978, you know, it was always busy. you went outside, i've never come back. now i come on in the 1st time back. i think the uh, i don't understand them. and actually i as you know, it's a policy. they pass you which they are going to lose. they are going to lose because it is something that you will not be able to. they will not be able to maintain such a policy for a long time. i mean, you're saying that, but i don't know and we'll get back to the are being problem a bit. yeah. the russian goodness marguerite. the tell the marguerite assume on. yeah, nevada t. u i t use general release to the world lead conversations of german offices

discussing the the use of taurus of ms. tiles target in russia. what's the reaction in the are p environment that alone in the bundle stag or in june? i mean, the use of fuzzy a minute cool. i didn't know whether you listen to it, whether it's just talking about targeting missiles into russia is or yeah, of course it's somebody like, oh no. but uh, yeah, i mean, i mean that's the situation. i think the haven't political lead, which is completely detached from, from reality reality in their own country reality around them. because i thing the, what happens in, in ukraine is not pretty sure say, you know, with which direction it's going to go and they've, you see the changes in the united states and things like this one. i think germany does something which is, is unexplainable for me. i just can't explain it. there was a connect, explain what happens. see, under your pin fall limits, you're saying it's pretty obvious, but a lens because you lose the war. but that's not reflected in the newspapers you're

getting on the last of all, i mean, the last of all, i mean this, this is a type of thing, you know, couldn't catch them to continue the war by people who, who don't have a son or daughter in the wall who don't have any kind of a child coming back. i mean, i've seen was, was asked and nothing here. roy about was, i've seen a lot of horse in my life. there's nothing here really getting the engine this never every night and it and be still saying that we can continue this war and try to have it we know against the restaurant. it will not happen. yeah, but i mean, the, the, by the ministration says, is now was to station long range nuclear capable of missiles at ram shooting. and i base, uh, thousands, i mean, they already host thousands of us soldiers, obviously on germany, german land. i mean, what do you think would be western europeans? i'm thinking of all these huge developments. i mean i, i mentioned britain earlier, they pledged 3000000000 pounds every yeah. way, more guns and ammunition. they don't listening to what you're saying about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost of men, women, and children and ukraine. you know, as a sort of,

i feel that 1st of all of the stationing of these attack and results on jet them, territory would be, i think in 2 years or some, i think is actually a sign of weakness. it's not assigned a strength. it's, you know, they, they feel they lose the war and they have not just strength of nato. they have for you to that. the, all of this propaganda that were the ones to have coffee and berlin on the and off and so on. i see what these basically do, trying to defend why we have still have nato because at the end of this war need to be in a big crisis. and i think it would be more prices if you have a next president. that's carbon truck. mr. trump, nato is in big trouble for it's future. and yet, you know, is this thing, the defendants and we have to go big strategies. i think it's all the sign of weakness is of course, a dangerous one, but it's a sign of weakness. but you read the newspapers that come on your desk in brussels that has an m e p and what all of them will watch the tv, presumably,

obviously television stations, newspapers, lots of them banned in western europe. what does it feel like they have your ideas in brussels knowing the in time media or is presenting this as zalinski will when if very more weapons and more subsidies and more german tank sent to the front line . okay, so you just something about the european parliament because, you know, i'm here on the since what or 4 days? i mean, it wasn't, it's it of course instruct book. i was actually shocked, and i've seen a lot of nasty things in my life, but i was shocked by the language use and that's 5 on the deputies out of 700 voted for the war resolution. i mean, it was nothing else and the board was resolution in a war that is already in it. in the 3rd year in the says, yeah, usually you have and resolution which sort of tried to find ways all of the

assessment absolutely nothing. it speaks about that we have to continue the want to ukraine when civil war against pressure. so i shall be defeated. it speaks about the special quote that all the russian politicians have to be present at the to it . it speaks about brush up having to pay for all the costs it speak on in specially it's a safe shopping during mega stations and they cut down on open. i mean, as you call and have more loss of reality and touch strategy than just sort of resolution with this resolution, the you basically have said good bye to participating in any solutions for of your create more. and this is a very dangerous thing because it's of on europe in territory with the biggest organization that you are being car territory is led by. i don't really stick them on sick, can not possibly possibly reach, especially not europe. look at the front this week and not just the week. and i mean who else is that for me that may be mrs. maloney. the attack is what's not do

anything. i mean the do it be the most anything that will never never happen. and this in after to an obvious of war is unbelievable. and i'm, yeah, i mean i going yes with the car doors and i see all these more rhetoric. i, i, i, i'm, i'm just flabbergasted. i'm i to, i can't say, i mean i've seen a lot of was and i know how to develop and i know how the negotiations go. it was in quietness, but we don't even have pride take association. so you have nothing. you are p s, basically say good bye to this solution on its own. come come to net. i mean, you can't be crazy of them. this means that lensky is that by president my very clear, i hope i'm about to accept the landscape. i present the looks, i didn't, you know, i compare this to the ronny rock boy you know, a lot to do with this and it was a is a ceasefire. the language for you see in the parliament, i think is more aggressive than what i've experienced in the wrong. is this i'm believable. i mean, and i think if you have such an aggressive language,

it is usually people who don't have an idea of how to get out of something as well . they've heard of nuclear weapons. there's other ways that by and by being more aggressive. but it, of course, the reality is what it is and in moss is a real thing. and the, and, and, and you won't change it because we've made a change of language. and so, you know, if you look at this one, i didn't do this, let me look at this, what we have a public opinion in europe has that don't reflect public opinion anymore. was this resolution, you know, we know that in the united states as basically say, i mean whatever you say about 5 and even then i think that basically said good bye to the small. i've seen the americans in enough contest on the rock. how quick easy they withdraw from something they felt they couldn't ring anymore. and, and of course we have the whole house. i mean, it's just also what global styles. i know, it's not the good word, but i mean, nobody supports the europe is, is isolated. what's europe?

it's 5 percent of the population, maybe 5 in off to send and declining and be, be still behaved. when we listen to the language of missiles from the line, the behavior this, we are great paula in the world and you know and be decided. sanctions, everybody would shrink and say yes, as soon as we do what you want, it doesn't happen anymore. the world has changed to all these people. us live on the land. morales being replaced, i understand the foreign policy chief of the they may know, plan be, or contingency for. if washington decides, forget to lensky, it's over enough subsidy to take care of it. but the notice already, i mean, we know that the united states is drawing from this war and it, i mean, i may like if you have a trump there, and then these days, you know, be i do it early and i think he's right. he will do it and um, and he doesn't over our heads. and so the danger really, for europe is that we have an agreement on how to end the war in ukraine without

any of all participation. and the result will be that we will have to pay the bill because it will be a very expensive end of or wherever you have collapsed ukraine, very likely. but if you have enough people fleeing still, there will be a lot of misery usually. you know, at the end of washing since they're not much worse and during the war which keeps seeing some altogether, i mean the ending of a was that was easy, a terrible thing and it could cost us billions. we don't have, i mean, the gym government already announced that going to something that they will next. yeah. off their contribution to the ukraine. i mean, what does this one? i mean, it's a bit tre of, you know, that ukraine will not become involved. the european union, even though they will not become members of nato this, this assault, it's called as a question my view and the people you sit next to in that you are being a union building in these buildings with european union. i mean, do you think they are being brainwashed? they actually believe persian wants to invade mullin or do they,

or are they being bribed somehow to the right? no, no, no, no, no. what is, why did they think, i mean, do they think they do it and wants to invade, been in and brussels, the number of people, which i think are very serious, which i certainly believe that if you don't, you know, something people have putting into you said that's why these days speak about the 2 years. we have to be ready for war and is all the things that yeah, this i think a lot of people, i mean, i couldn't kind of, i mean i've been home outside in my life. like i'm so strong that people, as i know say this, and it's a completely unrealistic thing. you know, the, what interests me most have what i or the question i asked myself so often why is often a highly educated people who sit in these parliaments and all the rest of it. why does it take this position? they must see that, that what is different than what they present it is. and i have now only one onset to this one. and that is, and i, you know,

i've left most of my life in this house. oh, what you called in on the rest of the countries. the realize that it's that we live in more shots call that size and then the only not the size. and then the human, you know, at the time of change must have change. the dominance of the western world, which is mostly a wide world, is coming to an end. the nice things, especially the middle classes, realize that this ukraine, more if it ends for them badly image, it looks at the us it. we also have long term impact on, on how they're seen in the unlikely most like all of the shows i use michael 100 and without stop you. the more from jeremy is news, are i why going to connect alliance ibp and full when you and assistant secretary general after this break the the,

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the was a shame, but it was a shame. but i see you look on my game to with a see. yeah. this you should be able to hold any more than with your number. sure. that was missing here on those. go to present it with that group. look what i need to was the documents to sort of really good thing is that it does look like at least if you have a single class. now that's because you have us doesn't wish of successful with that . i'm more comfortable this one, chest for chills. it's the stuff that's in the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with for me,

you in the systems equity general and president jim and member of european parliament microphone to show them back. or michael, we were talking about the cognitive dissonance of your fellow. i mean piece in brussels, you know, it was only the other day that we had reports of 43 british special services as a s maybe s b, you killed by russia in odessa. then in germany, there's supposed to be this report on the north stream pipeline. we've had sy hersh who exposed to the us involvement in that. what did you make of jeremy refusing to really is not stream investigation results? and is that not a debate in the european parliament, the largest environmental catastrophe? manmade perhaps in history, in terms of methane emissions because of the node stream pipelines, applying energy to germany from russia. they are the few days i'm here. nothing is about it. and if you think if you want to protect environment green deal, i mean,

nothing is worse for the environment and the walks and the even these meetings are over, asians probably produce more c o 2. but the kids have all our cost of them diesel and no there isn't. is no, it is also one sign of the nice thing. it's fee a i thing really it is fee it essentially it's fee a to face reality. and the t is that the world has changed. it has not changed because of the ukraine war, but it did create ukraine will accelerates the whole thing, you know. and then the bulk of its doctoring came in 92, you know, saying, you know, the united states as now the only superpower it has to have is the responsibility, blah, blah, blah. and to, to, to bring on up to the world. it's not anymore. i mean, the united states is economically technologically, politically, not anymore. so, but maybe still militarily. but the interesting thing is this to buy, it's old, a strong military. they lose all the boss. and i know as quite the opposite,

which i experience myself. yeah, i think the west isn't if they did a situation and what do you see in these elections in the united states between trump and bite, and i think a symptoms off of the western world, which is actually losing out. yeah, losing. and the european union, as somebody from the line just doesn't want to realize that you need a different policy. you cannot become a superpower. i see, she wants it to have a huge state. uh, you know, very uh, ukraine and uh, john john moved over and all the rest of the copy becomes part of his is such a huge paula. and we want now to invest in military and have all and military and things like that. so it won't happen. lucky, it won't happen. yeah, i mentioned, i mentioned 40, i know the sooner we should just say $43.00, but the special services it killed or wounded not killed, but it's all a secret. and is the point that the,

these people like us live on the land and getting their information from somewhere else to where you're getting your information from to have this vision of the world that they have. where are they getting their information easy? no, i don't know, i saw some of the oregon, but you know, i've been all my life in these countries. i've seen so many was i have a different take on how's it all works? you know. yeah. they always and these couple of some of the thing that, you know, this is what does this but the like, i can't explain any other way for me. it's a mystery a little bit. i think it's, it's great via that. they are losing the losing out dominance. i mean, look at the natal look at nato rethink next to are so important for us a but if you're sitting in yeah, or in, in cane, you know, i south africa. oh. and not in america, what do you see? you see a military lions of the ex colonial powers. operating mostly lights. and you know, this is of course is contacting the cons. stay on like this. yeah. but of course,

joseph burrell, the foreign policy chief, said the rest of the world is a jungle compared to the god and of europe and asia cigarette. it doesn't even know what of what jungle means. that means far as that may be, should be made happy. if you have some force, he's being replaced by this estonian tie, a call us. who said that the important thing here is the end of the russian federation for the whole of russia to be broken up. yeah, i have already gone over this. i am the guy you know, i wanted to ask you some questions when it comes to you know, if you have such a resolution which say snow negotiation and see when you all have to go for victory and same time as mrs. kyle asked to present the european union in the fall and policy. i mean, oh, do you think is going to talk to us? nobody. we are not strong enough to do it, it just will happen overall i have. i mean, trump is a lot of negotiate this. china,

them is us 3. i completely use this as we behave use this as it is for our content that has such a long political history. so many think as so many for lots of us that the come to a point been reduced such a serious thing is this resolution? it's almost unbelievable for me. it is unbelievable. and you're going to try and speak in the european parliament about that. no, they didn't give me any why? so i made a video saying the angry on the what? oh no, i really did. you already did the describe it to you. this is all the things you know, you cannot be talk here and that it is dominated this, this, you know, this parliament. and i think we have probably a bigger chance to talk to the public because of public changes and the public is very of war. the public is marius of a decline and in the social about being and the client on the purchasing power of the salaries and things like this one. this is where we have to talk the have you have to have a change if. if people more people vote for us,

because we are the only piece spot the, it's really a piece by the if you take it easy, right, right. making things boy, in germany actually almost in all europe. i mean, if you don't have something similar and in australia or in the netherlands to countries i know and the other on fonts. i mean, this is a, i think is all of our take this a very important, very important, a new addition to the political scene and i will do everything that we are successful because i think it's important for europe. and of course, i know what will be important to other working classes of your, of what will be economic impact of people like kaya call us, seeking the end of russia, of a sholtes allowing a nuclear capable misfire, a long range missiles in germany, continuation of the war through ukraine, up until maybe the november elections anyway. we'll see can long term economic impacts of all of these decisions are to be made over the past couple of years in european capital steps the impact already. i mean,

do you have an almost decline into purchasing power off of small salaries? you know, those people sitting like me in the parliament, they won't feel that because we get enormous amount of money. so if you have inflation the uh, you know, the industry is declining a via d industries rising for germany. it psychologically very important aspect. and you know, because also helps off from the natural resources which can get from is javi cut themselves off from the markets going markets in asia. if you have an older traveler over the transatlantic, i mean this is not going to go well, i mean, look at this in the sections restaurant, scroll by 3 parts, 6 percent, and jimmy is going to somebody even find it falling into the crime. i mean, you have to realize what they're doing is not going to, can not continue. it can not continue, it must break and one day. and while the rest of the world expands, and as you say west and you are a declines maybe into recession,

maybe it's in slump. i don't know cook's cook's the books there in front. we've seen gains from the left and you all look better shows bazzi and others. in germany . we've seen the rise of the a if the will it will it be to the rise of fascism in western europe. this economic decline will. will there be more progressive forces that will benefit from this economic decline caused by the war and ukraine to reset it onto this question x cost? i don't know. i don't thing that frustrates my battery in germany. it was never frustrating. it wasn't me talking and saying, i mean, neo nazi isn't i don't thing has, i know, i don't think that will go that far. but people vote for policies which have more extreme solutions because they are so upset by the, by the stop this politics name. and that is going to continue. and i think what we hope from the vs v that'd be can harvest on this one from a policy which is maybe more on,

on reasoning and social responsibility and things like this one more defending democracy. my issue today or a press release also about democracy in this problem. and so i think that if he can be successful and if he can know when also the local elections and industry driven states, that would be a very, very good site. and also for the rest of europe, that's a, it's a market for pete bought poppies which actually talk more like side of bunk next. uh you said that the rush or violates of the un charter. and it's a reaction to uh, from vacation. uh, they say obviously from the nato powers in the eastern ukraine. but now you seem to be saying that it is your opinion power. is that a breaking the spiritual? be you in charge all the you enjoyed it by outlawing negotiations, a r i c. then you haven't read this is this thing probably, you know, i'm,

i'm saying of course, that in an amazing or another country is a brand, a breach of the, of the you and shot that. but you know this, and it'd be, you know, but that's it. you and try this much more because you're in charge as 1st of all saying that you should negotiate. and they refuse to negotiate, to the run up to the more and b, b, b, y, cause of the negotiation and peace, negotiation between russia and ukraine. and also now you say, even in a document like this, a resolution that you will not negotiate or even say that one of my, i think probation that i thing that this resolution is actually also a breach of the un charter. because into you and shot the old member states agreed that they wanted to prevent more to limit the war by negotiating peace. and if you go ahead, have a resolution like this one having a vicious me, it's a, a, a most defeating another country. and then same time be the same, you don't negotiate and then strongly not in line is that you and child. so it's

the child that is more complicated than just simply that the saying that russia violated. so you're in charge of this much more through it. and you are an assistant secretary general at the united nations. doesn't that hold any weight or power in the or being following up with your colleagues? a yeah, i'm to new. yeah, i, i, i will get more. i'll talk also to everybody. you know, i'm, i'm not, you know, i, but you know, i'm day that, you know, it's a started to be stopped on the 16th of july. so don't ask me how that is all going to happen. and the 1st thing was this resolution, which i saw to come up some of these trucking shopping shopping. i also got not trucking because of rush out trucking because of the future of europe itself. i have more concerns about europe than about russia. what's going to happen to us if we, if he continues such policies, michael wanted to show them back. thank you. thank you. thank. so that's over the show continue condolences meanwhile to those very by u. k. u. s u,

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