the, the large scale prisoner exchange by russia, the us and several other countries has been broken by a 2 men, but they pick us. this is evan good because it's cold. we live in particular that you know, as a russia on the list of move into the prison is being exchanged this way, something wrong, or opted into a fee of warners today as thousands gather to paying. there was faxed to for hamas leader as mine, honey who was assassinated, piece of wand on wednesday. as soon as people gather in chair on to mournful assassinated, how must be the issue and how the attentions wise between a run this by the

basically the international life, the last studio and most go great to have you joining us as we taking through what's been a really busy news day. we're gonna start though with our top story, this our and that's the fact that ne, 2 members they took you has confirmed a large scale exchange of prisoners between the us, russia and several other countries move in to does move christmas, all on the list, a fish opperation has been recorded in history as the most extensive prisoner exchange between the united states, russia and germany, and recent years. the channels of dialogue for the story cooperation were established by the tigris national intelligence organization. 10 presenters, including t minus, were relocated to russia, 13 presents to germany, and 3 present us to the united states. as we speak, a number of planes of landed in cut in the turkish capital to ensure that the

present or exchange does continue without a hitch. what we're looking at right now is one of the largest prisoner exchanges since the 2nd world war. this is a significant step forward for a number of different reasons. we understand that more than half a dozen countries are involved in this presenter swap and the turkish military as well as the intelligence agencies have been providing information, suggesting that direction intelligence played a key role in mediating this present or exchange. we understand based on a statement from turks intelligence that they started to mediate these talks in july of this year of 2024. and over the course of the past month, church intelligence ensured that the tardies that are, of course, are involved in this present exchange came to a certain understanding. and does that the swap would take place in neutral territory, which is on code at the church capital. but also is important here was of course, so that this is considered as i did want to bite me in a easing of hostilities or something. but i would suggest that the easing of strains by countries such as the united states and russia,

particularly when we take into account the conflict in ukraine and the stance that washington took since then, this could become a pivotal step forward. yeah, i think given the relations of being what many describe as being the worst between russia in the west is interesting that there is this contact now between the various intelligence agencies. the yes and that came a reporting for us from is stumble about the fact that took care has been brokering that present experience. thank you very, very much. well, let's get more details now about who has phoenix changed? all correspondents, all teased. correspondent, states. we need is in state where the speed you have been following this. it will say we do find you have confirmation of some of the names of the 26 individuals who are being small. can you talk us 300 now? okay. well, speculation was right early on thursday morning about this potential must present as well between the russian federation, the united states, batteries, germany and other european nations. now one,

as we soon discovered it was one of around 6 russian government planes that did take off. we spent most of the day kind of tracking those to see that whereabouts. of course, there was a lot of speculation across by russian media and american media, cbs, the american media media route. but when it reported that i do have been struck by the, this was according to a senior by an administration official. now of course we had the confirmation from to a case intelligence in a, in total key thoughts. and could i have mediated this data. now they've released this list of $24.00 prisoners that have been exchanges believe to be $26.00 inside to the biggest prisoner exchange since the end of the cold hole. now we have some of those names confirmed. now we can talk about some of the, i guess the most prominent or high profile of those names top of the list. of course, the wall street journal report to evan goose give is now,

he was recently dialed for 16 years on espionage charges. he typed into the country, he was gathering information about the wagner private ministry company, but he was caught by russian security services. he was caught red handed. they say with irrefutable evidence that he was gathering information military information that could be useful to the west of the united states. and that he was preparing to hand this information over to the c i. he of course became a cause to lever i in the west. his detention was seen as an up front to. busy unless i'm on a front to use gathering many of the many of these weston governments and jordan. this, of course, from countries that were behind the detention on the expedition with the planned expedition of that which it expanded judy massaged about whom they remained incredibly sign. and now most go has a game. we get to write it that it has incredibly strong evidence that goes to,

which was, in fact, spying a talk, a call soon. the conservative bull casa in his interview with not in a position where he confronted him directly on the scriptures case and said, would rush. i'd be willing to release him as a gesture of goodwill and punching replied inside. well, he's always open to this kind of thing. but it hadn't been reciprocated at by the west, and he said, well, of course he would be happy to discuss the possibility of a prisoner exchange, but this needed some degree of flexibility from western intelligence. another of the high profile, the names on a list, of course is poor reading the full not us marine of former us police officer. he again had a very checkered history in his own country. he was found guilty of embezzlement when he was a member of the united states armed forces. he suddenly develop this very keen interest in russia. he started learning the russian language. he was communicating with the russian citizens over social media. he came to the country in 2006,

reportedly to attend the wedding of a friend. again. he was, hey, for a while and he was a cost and he was arrested and found them in his possession, according to russia with state secrets. so he was imprisoned on espionage charges. he's a guy and he's on this list released by the tow occasion intelligence service. and of course the german national rico kreger. and his name guy is on this list of people, the and i have confirmed by turkish intelligence to have been part of the present exchange deal, where he worked in the u. s. embassy in berlin. often leaving that post, he decided he was going to go to craig and on. 3 assume on a tavian mission, as so many of them do, but he soon became caught up in combat operations. one of his missions was to photograph batteries in ministry installations and he was called interested in the batteries in capital minutes. he had

a rough side load and rock sack loaded with explosives, which was due to be used on that countries royal network. he was sentenced to death from medicine re activities, but he was recently pardoned by the by the resume president. yeah, an interesting you going through the list of details that we've had. so the fall this to minus who are on one of those planes coming back to russia. i think that suggests that a russian couple from slovenia amongst those being released from the russian side to come back home. yes. well now to them on, on the old chevy. this is a couple that were detained on espionage charges in slovenia of all places. now, according to the neighbors, they had been a fan of the ordinary couple. they were living that with the children they were living at old me, but it'll cost life in. uh so, but it'd be in slovenia. they had a number of companies i t company and all company and all the business organizations. but this will be in, you know, solar t's said that these with friends for russian spying operations. they were

arrested that was sentenced to just under 2 years in prison on charges of spying, the other charges against them, which would have time even a year sentence if they were indeed found guilty. they are now included on this list. and of course, along with the children of named cross equals now he is at game, he was one of the names that was really meant to be paul, this prisoner exchange. and he's a paid on this list of people that being confirmed to be on that present exchange this he is an f s. b agent. he was caught in russia back in 2019 and he was charged with kidding. a georgia national who is believed to be a checked him set protest, and he was sentenced to life in prison. well, that still further into this subject with political consultant in human rights lawyer. although deborah lay, thanks very much for joining us on,

on the international. i just want to get, 1st of all, your thoughts on the fact that that has been this prisoner exchange in ankara. and whether you think this could potentially be some sort of showing that there's a cracks in the ice. and a woman of relations between the west and rush, or the us and russia in particular, or what the thoughts just to read hiring or what i think could to be sure one could be speaking about a following. as opposed to a warming, it's a step in the right direction. let's be call that in 2022. uh some water is to meet or swap uh to place which i saw some uh as of uh um, mid things being sort of how released. uh, my of the turkey sho, digital services and those people for the most part, found their way back into the uh,

ukranian theater operation. so this sort of how probably, uh, while the most go somewhat and when it came down to again to discuss the terms of, uh, creating a trade swap involving this time uh, the wall street journal journalist and the willing must go somewhat hesitated and wanted to you know somewhat get a bang for the buck, so to speak. yeah, interesting. you mentioned that about the last prisoner exchange to investor in the us, which took place 2 years ago. i kind of wanted to what you may to the timing of the fact that this is taking place right now. and whether this has anything to do with the fact that we for the us presidential election taking place in just a few months. and this could be spun as a win for kamala harris. impacts boost her chances as well to be sure there's 2 sides to it. there's the objective facts, which is that,

as we're speaking about as of as off, we actually use the coalition don't actually there appear in, sees, and european countries where the programmed uh, the last few days. uh which just to ensure that uh, the appropriate already to use waiting in the as far as the, the masters are concerned. and of course in the background we have this us for the initial election. and i tend to collect, uh, the feeling that uh after the break and was really had down into about striking some kind of a deal. you know, is that much rides on trying to offset for the president. trump's rise in popularity in the wake of the sale. this was initially event and so it's a way. ready to somehow pop up, come on the highways. yes. yeah, an interesting, yeah. i wonder whether the really the aspect. so really, since this was the fact that is only 2 weeks ago, that the,

the american journalist and evan disk of which was sentenced to for espionage called right time data, according to the following, the russian quote, this thing came from, but we heard just a few months ago, left me approaching, telling tucker calls from the american tv host that russia was open to prison, the swaps but it was the west. it was the us that was kind of holding back on this . do you think the us administration potentially waiting for the end of that trial 11, go sure. which before it decided to say yes, let's proceed with this. we'll well, it certainly was a factor. i would also semis that in this wise, most cool west country on the terms of the deals as far as with most cool wanted to obtain in exchange, we're not quite up to par. and this would explain in terms of why other countries were involved in something we made a sense of a sweepstakes for instruct you

a little neil, per se, with a multiple teams involved. okay, i don't know, we're going to have to leave it that. thank you very much for joining us. all know deborah lake political consultant and schumann writes lawyer that's had to a wrong. now, if thousands of people are being gathering in the capital to more for the assassinated leader of how much this is a smell honey. as tension was between is rattling around all reaching a boiling point. we've got us airlines delta i'm you know, i think counseling that's lights, the israel that came off the nice break that the missile strike had killed tanya at the residence into ron. just hours of the he was an only guest, uranian presidential integration, all these contributor, roby bowman, and all these const correspondent use of jal lallie reported now from israel and iran in this place up to juan and wrapped her into a sea of mourners today as thousands gather to pay their respects to former,

how most metre is mine, honey, who was assassinated himself on. on wednesday, the funeral procession saw one. he is holding portraits, somebody. yeah. where these house feed is lots and lots of both 3 fees that are on express. their outrage against, as well as a whole, so a be responsible for the assassination. your boss will be leader by for law harmony . also attended this. the ceremony where he met a funeral prayer for the late her mazda official finance body. i will then be transferred to the guitar e capital dual. have her very old partner. and speaker mom, i'd love everybody, boss silly, but it's never heard a speech during the funeral or he vows would tell you shouldn't i guess as well think it was a response as to why time and place honey. it was killed in the early hours of wednesday morning. here's what i have done since i want shortly after attending the not the ration of it was new. president muscle position on our wow is warehouse neither confirmed nor denied involvement. many places on the plane square the

squarely on as well. so i think the country's history of targeting resistance meters leaders, which took a surge in the wake of the gaza war now as concerns grow and okay, scale escalation, the one security council contains on wednesday to address the tensions sions between as well and 11. also, as well as well as this assassination of honey i that meeting it was and going to do you want to do now? she is off the nation for such a violation of international law i don't manifestation, but to quote you as well stairs to turn down saying that such a move could not have happened without intelligence support from the united states . peace act could not be a kind of re towards the authorization and intelligence support of the us. they stomachs, you probably complete a result of this in your head on the right to self defense in the cold and sweet international low to dispose of them decisively to these stories and criminal act

when it deems necessity appropriate, their washington voice for the when also condemned the killing of the how must meet or liberally. it's a political assassination that undermines peace efforts and pushes the regions on the rings of war. not clear on the streets of the wrong mourners are demanding a harsh revenge. the site as well as skilled a guest. anyone and has lost all red lines by breach a sharon's sovereignty. not only how mazda and his beloved on these moments with public itself has vowed a serious rivera and supreme leader i for lost. how many quickly issued a statement following god, instead of saying his route, chose, quote, our dear, he asked me into our country and made us uh, as the one has we actually which what's on boulders on high alert that one is the also reported we are preparing for an attack against as well. we also heard that there was a warrant out contribution against opening the air space for a potential is really cancer attack after your was which on your insurance.

otherwise, those countries would be a legitimate target for error on your times. also published a report sign was a claiming that there was 2 free leader of ice off. i'm in a has ordered a direct switch salvatore. so i guess as well as the report side as we anonymous. but i want you to press holes because the directive reporter became during an emergency needing off here why. so we national security council on wednesday and shortly after honey, i was targeted to nipple it wants to dr. transfers and it gets select yourself as well. launches hundreds of missiles and rows in response. one is whether ya sports on his embassy comes home castillo several. they want he and military commanders in syria, new york times the last guy got this fine to get one is likely to use a mix of missiles and ones plans on some of these and play for people i spoke with here. so he's obviously not a long to respond to that in the past. eventually the lot of fun. yeah. i know with the french, unfortunately, the loud loud the crowd on high ranking officials,

all i could say stuff, the assassination of as far as how dea has ignited it for peril. your situation for compound was woochie consequences for the entire region. well, 1st of all, there was a rumor today that can go in the airport is always main. airport was closed. but as you can see behind me, that's just not true. there are many airlines that have canceled flight stairs or such as united delta those ponds, etc. don't forget while cannot see on which is like the, the is really air force wonderful. the prime minister and l. all they are armed with banzai ballistic missile systems. most airlines normally or not. so people are very concerned about coming out of the air space. pop morris by the lebanese border has been closed for a few days for civilian aviation, no more. small piper is no more small on $152.00 cetera, or our helicopters are allowed up there. we do know that the citizens of 11 on had been told us, they put america, issued a warning to it. citizens and love it on to seize, leave the country, expecting

a can flag duration. here we, we know we're, there are ports that are more than a 1000 american warships are in the region. a one of them being the u. s. s. theodore roosevelt, an aircraft carrier, which doesn't just carry uh, aircraft, fighter planes. it also has more than $4050.00 as marines on it and that can attacks wherever if need be. we had news today that mohammed dad who was bombed on july 13th, so wasn't sure if there's a lot of killed him. news came out today, this confirmation by the idea of the mama draft was killed. these people, these names which might be new to people out there in the international interface. every is really knows the name of mohammad. yeah. mohammad. yeah. these people have been involved in planning attacks or excuse me, attacks and killing innocent civilians for years on the northern border. so they, since the war has happened, they have been launching many people from 11 on has been launching missiles and on man a vehicles. harring warheads that have killed more than 40 about 44 is really civilians

and soldiers, including tragically the 12 body model for what people called cruise uh, citizens of north on the go on. i've just this past saturday. the leader of has the law says hayes voice is all ready to face is right aligned, it's west and back is on will never surrender. he made those comments in his speech . deliberate don't spend is really attack on pay reach early this week. killed a has full a come on the, on a strike on to it on killed the political leader of how much is that going to do? i will say that the enemy and those who support the enemy have to expect our response . our response will come for sure. this is a historical battle, and today we say to design is that if you want to finish us through killing our leaders and scaring our people and killing women and children get man, if you want us to surrender to be weaker, you are wrong, your, this will not happen, as our ladies a knob has said, whatever you do,

but whatever efforts you make, nothing yahoo and all of the americans, whether it's biden or harris or trump, they're all the same. it doesn't matter what whatever you do, and the efforts you make, you will not erase us. you will not kill our resilience and our spirit. if you are planning to finish us, this will not work. this you with surfer entity is going to be finished because the people of god will win. well, we've been speaking with hani sullivan, who is an executive director of the arab center for research and studies that he says the mid least. and he's not alone in this and thinking is on the brink of a major confrontation. really to do is uh, stealing and throwing these uh, these vs. and any chances for seizing the buyer, and it's uh, it's clear now that the united states of america is most goes in the,

the 8th or it's one of the main reason through the. so early on, i did see what they think on the tub in the for ends in has beloved in the living room by a submission of before it show could and just started a by a submission some and on the same was a green light from united states of america. so in this point, i think we will have a new escalation. if you're on good sideline, it's have to remain silent forever. because when you're on, when response to his right or this a dex and submissions, i think it's a problem to express. it's safe on the door to store. it's a vision of the vision the businesses or is uh, mediations for any new additions. i think it wouldn't be in it. we have a way of depression from is if the on the costs are in the theaters. i think we,

we, we need to a very bad way in to sort of bring you some news coming out from the news of africa. this is were 5 people were killed in a drone attack on an army base in war torn down. while the head of the transitional government was actually in the area the, or assess the power military which is fighting against the states has denied responsibility full dr. tack following the incident, the governments lead to has rejected c spar tools that were planned to take place in switzerland. and we will not lay down our guns until the country is cleansed of any rebel or mercenary. and we will not accept negotiations that undermine the dignity of our people. the battle with the enemy continues and we will not retreat or surrender. and we will not negotiate with any party, no matter who it is. but that score slide down to all things correspond to deliver your convey who joins this to tell us more about this 1st. well,

this is very complex to it, but can you just break down what's happening in see donna particularly what's happened with this attack phase? a full shot at the army lead to stones came as she survived destination and came to that took place during a graduation ceremony that he was attending in the east to aust. done. those that were present at the the ceremony say close to the conclusion of the whole gathering an array of suicide. drones attacked the ceremony. 2 of the droves of manage to strike in the center of the gathering for han was able to escape. i discovered how if 5 people, as you have mentioned what she owed, by the impact of those 2 drugs, the strike is the closest, is the closest section the tech has time to pull sedona since the war began in april of 2023. the attack has yet to be claimed, properly,

like any group and the all me so says have also stated that to the not to certain who exactly is responsible for this attack and the rapid support forces which has been engaged in heavy fighting with this don. * forces that have not the least um claimed some sort of responsibility as you've mentioned. and we also know that to all the positions i was way across to don. i've come and repeated attacks of blamed on the i receive. yeah, and it's interesting because we know that the warring sites have been planning to engage in these piece talks in switzerland. do we understand this recent attack is apparently sort of really ruined those plans. do you think they could be any progress for negotiations at this time? given uh, the sentiments that we're hearing coming out posted on right now. as well as this

moment, it seems very unlikely because the strike comes off to the government condition of the accepted an invitation to attend the peace talks in switzerland on the 14th of this month. the talk so would have been the 1st major if it, in months to get to the army and to the i receive, to sit together in one place. but the need to stay to that to be student needs on forces with not to be negotiating with the i receive for putting it in to piece towards that had only recently started also though that the obviously if accepted the invitation very soon, all said was proposed the saying that it was the paul to most concerned with the, with saving the lives and the dignity off the student needs people. so it will cooperate with any entities that aims that to do so just that we are ready to engage in these tools constructively and look forward to them being a significant step towards peace stability and the establishment of

a new suit and the state based on justice a quality and federal governance. we affirm a commitment to all people in the international community to participate in the talks on august 14th in switzerland. but it's listed by many countries to push foisy cya and in, in the to the will have proven. oh, most inadequate talks last year, for example, between the 2 sides, broke it by saudi arabia and the united states failed to even reduce the size to add to reset the attempts to revive those tools to breaking down in need soon, even this yeah, age of hosted support is off both of the, the forces in cairo for negotiations. the only outcome from that was a d. i'm creation off a subcommittee to draft in agreement which was meaningless because it was a visually violated. even though you in hosted in direct peace towards between the parties of the 2 sides could not even needs face to face only meeting the you in

secretary general's personal info. just to don seen how these if it's in the conflict to sedan, have intensified but so far the last thing ceasefire has remains elusive, violence and attacks. movie, what we see in teams is the headline, but really there was a huge humanitarian crisis going on and sit down as a result of this conflict. i mean, somebody like 8600000 people displaced in the country. can you tell us more about that situation? and the impact the are solid. it is bad so much so that even the sudanese consider the tools in switzerland as the best opportunity to negotiate and into the war. because families are displaced to multiple times of war . uh, following hawks on the hills, food aid forwarding desperately sold on what's needed communitarian aid, intercepted by soldiers and on the on the groups before it can even reach the

intended recipient. even crop production capacity is being sabotaged during a hung emergency not to mention the violations committed against children, even the you in itself saying that they've never seen or verified so many violations of a soldier and as they did for the period of 2022 and 22 in the city, and as we speak, tales of thousands of people have been killed and millions, as we mentioned before to, to see the homes making sit on the country with the largest displace population in the world. distributive in groups continue to say that to both of these parties have committed abuses a submit a multiple cries and deliver, you will need to leave it back. thank you very much associates corresponding new to where you come. okay. well oh, it's a pleasure to have your company that say for me, but mike, a quite che, we'll be head just off to 8 pm most good time was moonies and.