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the service department and spokesperson it has disclose some of the details. all this will saying that the children of the adults have family didn't even know they were russian until the plane took off from took you go to negotiations on this complicated exchange were conducted through the f s b, c i a line where this was the main line upon which the agreement was reached, the children of the legal intelligence agents who arrived yesterday only found out that they were russians when the plane took off from ankara. before that they did not know that they were russians, and that they were related to our country to windows agents were in prison, their children were deprived of the opportunity to continuously see their parents. they were able to see them once in a while, but not as much as they want to go to. the parents were shown the children, but they did not have that opportunity all the time. they rushed to really 6 being present as some of them, with the dual citizenship, among stories being exchanged to americans, such as evan, goose eviction,
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also pull wheel. and not both of these individuals had been convicted of espionage in russia. another prisoner released with german citizen recruit creek, who had been found guilty of terrorism charges in batteries to bite in greeting the returning americans outlet port in maryland and was well as usual self as my colleague will receive shade. disgusted with all these strips really the lines of my job is to make sure we get your message. yeah. sorry. so just it's just what is your message to page and then by that says stop whatever that means. listen. so let's talk about this. it hit start. prisoners swapping out with all these steps we need. joining us in the studio here look is
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massive like a lot of people involve a lot of smiling faces. but what's the reaction so far out of certain western leaders? when of course, this is the biggest prisoner exchange since the end of the cold war, i must exchange between the russian federation, the united states, germany, batteries, and other nations, some 26 people involved in, not extracting from 7 countries. now, of course, the negotiations on the ground work that went into this would have been fairly lengthy, would have been very complex. but of course the united states, what it seems to want to take. so credit for broke during the day, and as of today, my business has brought them over. 70 americans were wrongfully detained, held hostage abroad. the president was himself personally engaged in the diplomacy . the block that's about many since before i took office, i would say that if you had not had job, i'm sitting in the oval office. i don't think this would have happened edition,
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i issue the executive order 2020 to authorize the penalties like sanctions and travel vans and those who hold americans against their will. and honestly, guys, i can just say this was vintage joe biden, rallying america rally and american allies, to save american citizens and russian freedom fighters and doing it with intricate stay craft, pulling his whole team together, just drive this across, could finish line a. well, plenty of itself. congrats. likely box slapping praise for the role of the outgoing you as president joe biden will by didn't himself piece lead up to his own threat to paving until wonder off from the plane as it landed with those freed america increases. he couldn't, of course, resist taking a swipe, russia taking his wife, but form us present. donald trump while heaping prize on the nato countries where you mention nato countries. what kind of reaction are we getting to the prisoner exchange for various nato?
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well, yes, we have had some reaction that know all happy uh, german jones out of sholtes among them. and now he's limited to the release of what you described as a convicted criminal. he's referring of course to a body cross. he called on the he was a child he was of, since it's a life in prison for the shooting of i checked in, but it's an object to but it's a good time down. some particular grease of all kinds, including using his call to run over the heads of russian p. o w. c, the spacing about innocent people they hold off in prison is across the world. he was of course, referring to the german national rico creek. he was a child, he was sentenced to death of the he was caught in a better ruse, posting a bomb attack on the viola network. now sholtes in his speech at the airport in cologne for he took to the podium and praise germany's special relationship with the united states. that is not my once again, it was a special moment for me
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a moment that a certainly further intensified the friendship between the us and germany. the conversation i had with the american president emphasized this very much, and it was also a sign of our mutual willingness to do something based on our shared tradition as states governed by the rule of law as democracies. and also as free societies. well, the german media, perhaps predictably, well, it's going into a meltdown. it saying that this is a victory for the russian president vladimir polluted. now they said that any pardon that should have been granted by own sholtes upon the, the german justice minister. well, he forced this port in through the prosecutors again, they were opposed to it so that not very happy with the situation. some criticism has also been leveled at spain for fighting to lift a finger to secure the release of the russian bone. spanish during this popular gonzales, he's been held a postage prison. and i, we,
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we heard from his lawyer who said, well, russia did all the running, but he went as far as to choose spain, of conspiring against him. of spain has done nothing. ablow has jewels citizenship. i don't know how well when the spanish authorities found out that 5 lo gonzales would be released. they did not contact us, and i understand they found out about it from the media. the last moment, spain participate by sending intelligence reports against public gonzalez and his lawyer that his me, pablo is a very resilient man and has stood up to everything he made it through. and now he remains to be seen what the consequences will be. it was an unjust imprisonment, long and hard to, you know, state we sold the russian president vladimir putin welcoming those of look of apple with hugs and smiles. flowers in the hand, shakes as well. we still put in that. but what about reaction from other russian official most good, who has struck a farm or conciliatory tone that we've heard from the western countries?
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it's a price better roof for its role in securing the release of a prison. the prisoner that was hold up that rico craig. oh, of course there was no mention of batteries. his role from the west, russia has of course, praise either of those countries that were involved in the negotiations. we can hear you now some reaction from russia's photo ministry spokeswoman, literally as a. how about, let's take a listen, what many have called in exchange i would call a bashful, of self control. self control of prison is self control of political sorts. his self control of special services. by all accounts, i was of the best. perhaps it is also a question of face and hope that the people in this state are behind you. and today's history has once again sandy's face and hope into the knowledge that we don't abandon our room. now, there's been some talk about sorting of relations between russia and the west. uh
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we, i'm sure we wouldn't have seen a prisoner exchange of such magnitude, not even one. do you ever go and i went to put it in its geo political context, of course, as the conflict in garza, the fiasco over the bite and tendency in the presidential elections of the united states. the change of government in britain, russia continues to advance on the battlefield. we've seen this, this change in tone, from cabinet now talking about possible peace negotiations with russia. so these are very small steps at this stage, but hopefully i move in the right direction. well, we've been hearing from former republican state center, temporary smokes, he says, the democratic party may play out this prison exchange has been a victory for its own political points. but pretty sure exchange, i think, reflects a great diplomacy by both the russian federation of the united states as well as
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the other countries that were involved. there were a number of nato countries that also really were involved in the release of the russians. who were, you know, in prison there. so i think it shows the importance of maintaining good communications between the russian federation, the united states and the leaders of the 2 countries treating each other respectfully, not in solving one another. i think that by and by the relationship the vice president shares are going to use this to show that there have been a successful in their dealings with russia and it's pretty obvious it is being done very close to the election. however, i don't see this is eric 6 can for good suggestion that the relationship between the 2 countries are, are going to overall improve the because we have one very, very large obstacle which is the situation and you grant the
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militants in the west african nation of molly save, have killed more than a 100. and so he soldiers from the national government and from the russian wagner group in clashes near the altar in food to the west. and major says ukraine has trained many molly and rifles. i'm sure i didn't tell about wagner. operations in the region on the east coast when that new for you can get, has the details on this. a group consisting of russian missing the reason local forces was eliminated by a local group, the csp doing in them this me the town of 10 pallets and according to reports, more than a to 5 to that's what kills in the factual and another 15 were captured by local to r, a fight to the rebels received information and everything they needed to for the minutes . the operation from the train in advance. and as of late, the rebel group has indicated that they have killed a 2 full back in the sciences at 4 to 7 monday soldiers in the new day to comes as
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the was a news report released by publications basically suggesting that ukraine is hurting the rushes all the way to advocate because you created and authorities, i'll collaborate to with the military operating of the notice of my lead by providing them with strategic information with the ukrainians we face the same russian threat. we are therefore, naturally led to show solidarity. we have exchanged information on wagner's capabilities and it's modus operandi the ukrainians have promised to go further, says and executive from the strategic framework for the defense of the people of us a lot. according to concord in sources cooperation is not limited to sharing intelligence. do ukrainian special services have trained malay in rebels in the handling of small homemade drones loaded with explosives and aerial weapons regularly used and there war against the russian army. and this goes back to the initial information where you create an intelligence services declared that they
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were involved in the disney. and was even the spokes person for the ukrainian military intelligence service was reported to have claimed that they had provided to our examples with the necessary information to conduct a successful operation against the russians. there is plenty of information on new craze involvement in this meta also note that the members of the c s t d p a travel to ukraine for training. so behind this whole ambush is a ukrainian official raising. the question of, with the ukrainian military personnel were involved in the 5 to present to the countries, but not much. light was shared. that's specifically bishop of spine. see the fact that the rebels received the necessary information that allowed them to conduct a successful operation against wash and war criminals. the whole world has already seen this. in principle, this can be commended on. we certainly will not disclose in details, but let's say there will be a continuation for many. i'm not shocked at all by your praise involvement in this
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incident. in fact, the russian foreign ministry spokeswoman said that she is not surprised that he has received cooperates with terrorist. and even though molly has been fighting and is the mist insurgency for years now, with the assistance of russian military ukraine has made to this the biggest loss for russian minutes, sheets in the region. and it seems like the end goal is that to the ramp, the ripples and over a captured rushes to ukraine. will that stay in west islip cannot? because the coffee has been put in place in nigeria, this does protest. so the inflation and also crumbling economy continued to erupt or correspond, that's the wrong location for us. a report as something talked 10 days of rain and the protesters are for getting to march out right here on the 1st day of the protest based where does work forward essentially by use compromise and on social
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media to say about, you know, there's so much honda in the country, i mean it's gone to a level that has to come on. variable for families are also asking the government, you know, for more accountability last year and i joined for, for these prompt vips pen secure subsidy payments. and i'm also sharply defined to my dream car and see the myra, these policies, let's do the prices of goods and services and commodity prices essentially. you know, uh through prices in the countries skyrocketing beyond the weights of the ordinary people behind me. you can hear porter, sophia chancing on that date optimizer and slides that says we are hungry and we can no longer cope with a situation of pre and space. but at some point i had despite abuse or would i say warnings by outside these the government can, but today's outlets, these demonstrations ones that the products could descend into keels and um are security operating rights here? are you trying to ensure that that does not happen?
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to pay these are also trying to coordinate the purchasing are asking them to move into the stadium, to my labs. that's where we want people to protest us to convert sorts of multitude of strips to flow of traffic in the city. but the protest, as i said, it will not be consigned to a place or say about the will carry on with the most traces right here on the streets. nigeria is face it as most economic crisis in a generation with i know a flexion soren's over 34 percent the highest and nearly 3 decades. food prices have search even more dramatically in lagos, the country is commercial hub. nigeria is a typically known for their resilience and adaptability, but many of now struggling to cope the situation is diane, and it's unclear how much more the population can in due date escalated to the hardship as let's approaches. and i do a use of demand. did an ends about governance and
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a better economy and those who are the end to go no way to place you a response, not just press the button. i meant to be as appeal patients. urgent organizes to quote off the process of several state governors of want a potential violence, an a citizen. so stay up the street. but the use of defiance at a ball to remain on the streets until the demands of metz. well, luxury and law enforcement have won the foreign interference and when this just groups aiming to cause tails, the police inspect the general has assigned to the casing 10. yeah. where the government's is accused westland joseph smoking protests that we've been hearing from bye. oh no, no, i'm good. who is a special presidential advisor on media and strategy? and he said the demonstration is will do nothing but bring move violence and instability where the president was due to not, of course,
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in the quarter. so the, we promise by our booth we're going to assume are the, the, the, the porters. it's going to be a chain big overage, a 10 or 10 days of revolution. turn big piece of red juice change. so this is on the line to your filters. this is going to be language or normal, gross, who wants something better for their country? is the language of americans. there's not a problem with this. you said bryce. good news here. there's no big bonus. people want to use the new reporters. we have enough them for, for the rest know to try to bring the government down the track. of course, all kinds of these are fiction or folders destroyed. public property on this that those are the things that i'm worried well off the drug binding was supposed to
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walk up, plan couldn't drive his dream of us 2nd presidential 10 voting for who is now going to be the democrats choices. gotten them the way state side, but there's a real kick a hey, there isn't actually a choice on the bottom of the only name is that is comalla harris. now you may remember that she was the most unpopular democrat during the 2020 primaries, but she is now being presented as the best choice ever. the only choice over now to all sees caleb open for this report from the so called best in of the missing the democratic party presents itself as an all inclusive representative organization. they say democracy is at stake in this upcoming election. and if they lose, the constitution could be on the chopping block. and of course, they just drive their organization as democratic and representative. democratic delegates from across the nation made their voices heard, overwhelmingly backing vice president campbell of harris as the democratic policies
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. presumptive nominate all there's a problem. nobody voted for economy harris. she was not on the ballot and the democrat primary. and then actually the, to me, the most, the most interesting thing that i see is when you watch all these, these delicates, all these allegations are coming out. now, perhaps carolina has decided they're buying tomlin harris and new york says they're buying come wires and each delegation starts. but this is like watching the election results in north korea because what do you mean? the delegates are suddenly for cala harris. the delegates were voted for by the people of the democratic party, like 14000000 people or something voted in this election, and suddenly their votes don't matter anymore. now, despite not even being on the ballot during the democratic primary comma era still has all the delegates, the dnc chairs that so our party has met this unprecedented moment with a transparent democratic and orderly process to unite behind the nominee with a proven record. who will lead us in the fight ahead. so how exactly does that work? no debate, no contested convention,
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comma harris is now in charge and the conversation and prepare the coordination. now the dmc says they will post calling about to august. the 3rd, if a credible challenger can be found, but so far there is nothing and the clock is ticking. meanwhile, pamela arrows is picking her. ve the running mates? a lot of people have been calling connell here is a disaster for a long time, including a lot of people on her own side tire is really the 1st woman president, 1st black woman, president and 1st asian present. but i don't vote for who will be the 1st and i vote for who will win. and for whatever reason, iris has never been popular. you can count the number of delegates she won in the 2020 primaries on one hand. as long as that hand has no finger in 3 years as vice president, she's been quieter than an electric car. but it looks like a done deal. what a democracy when one of the 2 main candidates,
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one of the only candidates that has a real shot of winning is somebody but nobody voted for caleb mob. archie, new york let's take you back to one of our top story. ringback biggest president swapped since the cold war, lovely painting, welcoming 10 russians, including 2 children as they arrived back in the homeland. also present for the event with the chief of both the russian for an intelligent service on the federal security service department is also being disclosing details about this historical arrangement. saying that the may negotiations were conducted between the f s. b and also the c i a while that's cause to live that evicted by the, to the russian regional parliamentary member on to put a and of course, a full money exchanged prisoner. i thanks for joining us on the show book about a you, i just want to ask you, you watching. i assume yesterday's. this exchange was happening long negotiations.
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finally, we've seen the prison is from different countries being put together, swapped in, i'm career, i. what was your initial reaction to the news that this was finally happening, as well as usually its amusement the, this a believable you know, can happen because so complicated throughly, because i've never heard in the history. i don't know when such happened even, you know, for past 8 years. so this was extraordinary. and most important. i was a few with a joy that the, you know, russians find the return home from the old. they sort of deal. they went through in the united states and europe and the, it's really a very important, significant home and she and russia because, you know, we have been long said we have truth on those will be arrested in the fed countries
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. unfortunately, for less, the 1520 years american administration decided that the hunting russian all over the world, it's a good idea to create kind of exchange, you know, buckets, so they can negotiate. but to do um, finally with all these efforts of diplomats and special services that exchange happened yesterday and all cut off talk to you just briefly. obviously you have personal experience that they expect in 2020 to you a pulse of a person or exchange. well, well, emotions would have been going through the russians as they found out they were coming back to the home soil. as well as usually it's gum. you know, like a big surprise. see that you'll be middle a way can of middle side because i tell you, but up you're going out. then this whole, you know, for the biology is going through. they are indeed marshal coming,
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pick you up. all these, you know, chains, uh, you know, kind of calls and the other is then you have to just to know some, some how old are likes yourself. come down to say, well, i get, i have to go through these of closer filled up with this in zion. the, you know, you can't wait until the airplane finally, you know, fetch down in this forest of exchange and dime, you know, joy when you are back in the airplane video, you know, russian kirkpatrick yeah. know the western media, the way they covering, they say, suggesting, and it's not just to me, there's also the politicians, i'm the courts of in the west claiming that most of those who came back to russia were actually involved in illegal actions in other countries. and that's exactly what happened to you, the accusations against you. now, despite the fact that you have stated many times that these accusations are not true. and in fact that's been echoed in the ty judicial system in the us do
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additional system. but there was no evidence that you were trading in west buttons . what do you think of the chances that we're seeing history repeating themselves again? the are these accusations against the russians coming home, but they're all spies. they will the illegally involved in activities and possibly they want. and fortunately for the past 20 such years, american just assistance about, you know, shifting the gold polls and all the standards become sole mold to qualify. so finally, you know, you are like, they say in united states, you can invite the, you know, hand sandwich. so what you're talking about, i mean i understand it so well the crime click there's what the crime for this i q 's ation was absolutely nothing because they never coming up with a certain, you know, evidence against manual of those. and those who really did something like mr. across the gold, from beverly in our, you know, russian, the eyes,
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he's like national hero. so he'd be fully justified by doing, by killing you know, that the touch of total res. oh, he's half is a beloved of many, many hundreds, if not thousands russians and also judging people. so what you're talking about, what kind of the model stand, the, you know, american scan accuse anybody, you know, so little late, or they can't accuse just watching in the middle one day, you know, walk up in the morning and trying to raise their growth. and yeah, it certainly seems like there's a lot of double standards that play in the west and narrative has been painting, as i said, the russians getting back it secret agents and invitation. russia is releasing a few political dissidents. do you think it's really as clear cut us that as well, it's not as clear, but if you look on the so political chessboard definitely as usually, you know,
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russia played a brilliant combination. and 1st, before it's got what it wants. and the way is jobs, they use the child support on small political games, which is will be, you know, quickly forgot. that's it. yeah. so we've got, taught us officials also the main stream media appraising vide in, in the us. but this will essentially suggesting that he was the one old cust rating it all. he's a great diplomat. i'm interesting the why do you think that doing that and dismissing the role of the mediators, we know that the f s b and the c i a were actually the intelligence agencies in talk to each other to make this happen. and of course, why they not giving credit to moscow, which of course has to be part of this process too. but then the entire world going to collapse if they're going to meet anything like that. look on the biden. i'm not even being aware of the button i realized where he's and all day and time and year
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easy. you know, i'm fortunate they all been definitely, you know, deserve to have some good, nice retirement, not to be the front man or the some deep states. we're using seem as a stooge, and then trying to blame to fold a do behind he's back. yeah, and again, interesting. he on that, you know, there's this big focus over the us did. it's by didn't who did it, but when we looked at the reports and we look at the search in prison, is who left russia and galleries and went to germany. in fact, it was always 3 that when she even notated states, what are you doing? is washington receiving all this credit in the press? how does by exactly what a well, i guess the credit has to go to the, you know, this, the people who in this general, between the washing 1000 moscow, those who are really talking to each other. and those would be in arranging all this conditional. you know, i've been there, you know, seeing those people from the both sides and would say that the professional and the
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i want to do do respect woods do because they really do the job. this is a res level people, irish that the, from american side more people like that. who handle those question, then maybe what would the to reach these point of this, you know, observed you know, condition where to huge congress can't even discuss it for a problem. and this is collation leads to nothing except the more bigger world. conflicts of this and pick a narrative from moments we have the whites have saying that the now deceased this in a position to speak a alexi, nevada. and he was actually supposed to been part of bass swamp. however, just a few months ago when he died and he died, obviously in jail. many western media on politicians said that russia had killed
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him, that that order has come directly from the kremlin. so how does that connect if i like seen of all the on the 100 was supposed to be important at this present as well, but the kremlin killed him. it doesn't quite make sense. well, but you're absolutely right. it's makes no any sense because if you remember off of presidents logged in and put you in and she's interviewed to tucker, carlson said that you know, everything was going to be, you know, ready for exchange and then you know, i'll explain the volume, the dying gonna federal colony on a very strange circumstances. there is what was no incentive for russia to kill him shoulder. they've been in the jail, it was no harm. he had the value to get back, the russians were being abroad. so this was absolutely baseless accusations. as usually you talked earlier at 5, dividing classical who was released by the.
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