is that spelled out of the the action or that say, welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world, from the u. a in the middle east. the nature of proxy war on russia through ukraine is ended. it's 10 via since the u. s. coo and can be renewed u. k. u. s. and you unborn. garza has ended its 10th a month now involving lebanon, the ron, yemen, syria and iraq. how much more is washington prepared to sacrifice as it provokes war with north korea and china? that's that alone regime change plans and venezuela and feigning strategy in africa . a country that has over 750 military bases and over 80 countries, the united states as a world away from its pre world war 2, isolation is policies somebody, whoever is in charge of the white house,

may kick start world war 3. even before kamala harris or donald trump in here at 1600 pennsylvania avenue in january, kind of douglas mcgregor is a u. s. army veteran info. i'm a senior advisor to the us extra defense in the trump administration. he advised on putting the was on yugoslavia and iraq and was on the board of his alma mater, the u. s. military academy at west point, his books on military changing clues transformation under 5 revolutionizing how america fights. he's also now the ceo of the move and country, our choice. he joins me now from virginia. thank you so much kind of for coming on, so us extra se, blinking meaning southeast asia this week. and the actually, this is this idea of us revising our signing the us japan agreement giving, giving you ok. now m u. s. as in boulder, venezuela or africa, new jeron, molly, apparently, against russia, against china, against iran. how prepared is the united states for more as well i would say at

this point, they're not terribly well prepared. we're stretched very, very soon around the world. our armed forces are perhaps smaller than they have been in decades. although having said that, we have more general officers and admirals than we've ever had in our entire history, which tells you something about the mental, the stage or condition of the armed forces. too many chiefs, very few indians. i don't think we're ready to fight anybody at this point who is really capable. and by that, i mean, we are focused over the last 30 years. certainly since 1991 on, on fighting opponents without armies, air forces, or navies, certainly no air defenses. now we are, we confront the very real possibility, not only with iran and other states in the middle east, and i would also add the potentially turkey at some point. you got russia and china interested in what's happening. they're not going to sit quietly on the sidelines

if we truly succeed in bringing on a very large scale regional war. and it certainly looks as though that's our goal. yeah, but to add, some would say your criticizing it far too much. i mean that strike on the tyrrell, and that's a, perhaps in f 35, the type of plane stealth assassination. all those troops and all those bases remarkably say, fall through the is yes, there was defeating, i've gotten, is done in iraq and in syria and libya, but to things on the as bad, especially when you think the say trucks many is being on this show. so it showed of the procurement program, so i actually corrupt and incompetent. so now the military is still there, it's still going the us as i, as in how it wasn't destroyed by the answer, a lot movement in human as well. that's a, an interesting way to, to look at it. we certainly are not invincible,

invulnerable or immune to attack any longer. and we're very vulnerable here inside the united states, thanks to our open borders and more than 52000000 people now residing inside the united states who were never born in the united states. we've got a lot of problems and societal cohesion is much lower than i think it's ever been. this is not the same population that responded. let us age of pearl harbor were not the same country we were in 1990 or 91. the armed forces a game do not have the depths in terms of structure and experience. and more important, i would argue we don't have the arsenals. in other words, the stocks for logistics and munitions and missiles and rockets that we had in the past. and we don't have the capacity to search very much. so i think we've been behaving very foolishly acting as though whatever we do, doesn't matter that no one will fundamentally challenge us and i think we're wrong . and i think there is a sense, right now, not only in the middle east,

but certainly in eastern europe that we are not particularly strong, but the military industrial complex of rubbing the ads of that balance. or if you get a post in a jump administration, is it a case of the money is being badly spent? or is it okay? because it's the biggest spend are on the military in the world. why? and is as far as plus, you're not to know better than it is, as well as to look at the how the percentage breaks down of where the money goes. a lot of the money goes into pensions, medical care. so you eliminate a 3rd to 40 percent of the budget right off the bat, trying to pay for all the retired wounded and surviving veterans that have to be cared for medically. that's one part of it, but then the other part is trucks. many can talk about in greater detail that i can obviously use the acquisition system, which is a disaster and has been for many years. and in contrast to let us say the russian

military command, structure and system, we are fragmented. everything we do is service centric. so each of the services are their own independent lobbying organizations with their own independent doctrines. their for structures designed as they see fit. and everyone is very comfortable with the model that emerge after world war 2. which makes power at the top very, very weak and strength is power inside the services. the outcome is that you buy a lot of things you don't need and, and frankly, or the wrong answer. so then 2nd, the other 3rd part of this it needs to be kept in mind is a lot of what we do is re distribute incomes through the defense department to make sure that we keep factories and ship yards and things across the country operating even when we don't need them, or we should certainly be building something else. bizarrely blinking sullivan and lloyd austin quite open to publish it. have never heard the administration be so

open about it. saying that the military spending is not about military strategies about military keynesian keynesian is i'm do you think they understand what you're saying when they parade around the world? talking about important uh, your political issues. the united states is militarily weak as well. they, they don't see it through the same lens because they're not viewing it from the standpoint of fighting power. mean one of you got that you can commit. that is really going to fight and make a difference to the outcome of the conventional level. when you begin to add those figures up and look at those troops that are ready and the equipment that they have, you get a very different picture that's not their, their focus or their interest. you know, you gotta understand that the state department, along with the department of defense is essentially in the business of bullying. everyone. bullying a not just a potential opponents or address areas, but also bullying allies to do things that we want them to do. everything that we do is about bullying. we've developed

a global financial system designed to bully people into doing the things that we want to do. this is after all, what people like, she and foods and, and others have complained about this is why you've got the bricks. rising very rapidly to challenge us because people are sick of being bullied by us. most americans don't know this, they don't understand it. and they cheer, you know, when we talk about war, people have no idea what war means. i mean, i don't know how many times i draw it to people who seem to think that word is something that only happens on other people's oil. so and someone announced that, well we, we bomb syria, we bomb olivia, we bomb sudan. everybody goes, oh, it's great or they think they're great and is as a nation, is being demonstrated by bombing, hapless abundance. it can't really defend themselves over is use it for the most part are irrelevant to us. so it's a complex problem and it's not surprising that we are reaching the point of implosion. we're, we're overly stretched. we're, we're reaching that destiny that paul kennedy talked about and his great book,

good. the rise and fall of great pulse. a lot of the things that i'm saying you just said about the spanish state and it's military towards the end. and for that matter, about the british. so who is running the government to the united states of america and we're getting to the media, the media, the problem, that's the critical question. and it's clearly not the people you see on television . they are convenient facades, and behind them stand these unknown anonymous people. many of them are simply huge donors. some of them are, most of them are american. some of them are not. is it's not a secret by any means that jake solomon and the president of the united states have periodically taken long phone calls from george soros. as i said, the other day, i'd really like to get ahold of the white house phone log with the last 4 years and find out who's been making what decisions mean even when trump was in office, he made the decision to appoint john bolton is national security advisor,

someone he did not want and personally disliked and did not agree with. but he received a call from mr. at also sheldon adults and who was his biggest campaign donor and allison said please appoint boulder and ultimately donald trump complied. well. i think you have the same thing going on behind the scenes in the white house and obviously on the hill. so yeah, joel has been on this for a few times. we were gonna watch out interviews with them because donald trump said later that he just wanted, i mean that's a know he was thinking. but of course now trump is being financed by a 1000000 adults. and sheldon, adults, and widow, you know, sympathy with these politicians, given the it costs a $1000000000.00 or more to become a president. so they're going to get the money from somewhere and they want to negotiate that power. play with ridge, all the gods because that's the system in the united states as well. the republic as an institution is reached entropy. remember that the constitution was devised in

the late 17 eighty's. and the constitution and the government together were designed for a population of perhaps 3000000 overwhelmingly, uh english speaking products at 80 percent of or from the british isles. and whoever was it came from germany or scandinavian parts of france. the population has changed. the nation has grown to a normal size, yet we cling to this old form of government. it shouldn't be surprising to anybody that it is being overcome by events overcome by the economy that it manages, overcome by the money that it can not control. so we're at the end of a long cycle. we need to go through a long period of i would argue, reform and retrenchment to deal with the problems and the issues that we have at home. but instead, we're being driven overseas. and this is not because this is something the american people want. if you go back through the polling data that starts before the 1st

world war leads right up until the last couple of years. the majority of americans, when ever they are asked, always oppose overseas military event interventions. they don't want it, they don't support it. so then the question is, well then why do these things happen? well there, there is a government that doesn't respond to the american people in response to donors. and today washington is donor occupied territory. as it's as simple as that next week we've got a whistle blower on new was advised, the chair, the joint chiefs of stuff. do you think jake sullivan is seriously running the white house on these different issues receiving the call that what happens in there on what happened in lebanon, and then just reacting directly to it. i mean on those attacks, i don't know what you thought of the fact that he knew it was in washington. and then there was a meeting between that of the c i and most of that in rome. and then all these attacks that started happening, and you don't think joe biden has any involvement,

particularly in the strategy now. you know, and i think if you go back and look at job, i know for several decades, joe biden, of 20 years ago or 30 years ago, would never have done the things that we've seen him sign off on over the last few years. this is another point that i made. most of these executive orders that have opened the border and created the enormous products we have inside the country was criminality. and the rule of law essentially suspending the rule of law for all intents and purposes, releasing criminals onto the streets and mandating the settlement of billions and billions of people about whom we know absolutely nothing. bible would never have supported those things. so why is he doing it? well, he's signing effectively. whatever is put in front of him. he's a front, he's a facade, and people i think of the gun to figure it out. but i don't think americans fully grass the extent to which they are republic has been subverted largely by huge

quantities of money. and right now you have the i t billionaires pushing very hard on trumps, but half against the unit party on the left. because right now, if you look at trump and kamala harris and what they're likely to do, the only big difference between the 2 is stand on immigration and the border. okay, kind of the right thing else. they're quite similar. kind of douglas mcgregor, i'll stop you. that will offer me the full. i'm a senior advisors of us secretary defense after this break the,

the, the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the senior advisor to be a secondary defense counsel. douglas mcgregor. i kind of you talking about the implants of us that a good valley and the, the influence of who's in charge at the moment to the united states,

a government that the one loan hand at the un security council. v doing is he's firing guys. i was on show to the, to the whole world, i understand the idea of cheapest stuff, a formal one of each of you picked your book is required reading transformation on to file. do you don't think that the neo is play the played some genius moves here with a weak us administration? no, i mean for him personally rather than for israel, which it was maybe destroyed because of his actions. what do you think of these? riley's how they play the united states, the, the sponsor of israel, michigan, as in yahoo, who has lots of experience in the united states, he was educated in the united states, brought up here for quite a while. i don't know if you're aware of it or not, but for some time i don't know if it's still exist. it was also at birth or movement in israel because we're substantial numbers of israelis or unconvincing. mister netanyahu had been born in israel and insisted he was actually born in the

united states. i, i don't know what the answer to that is, but i do know that he understands the way the united states works. he knows that right now he has more control and influence over what we do in washington dc when it comes to foreign policy and defense policy. then anyone who is presiding as president of the united states is the, is really the lobby has achieved something that it set out to do many, many years ago to effectively have the unconditional backing of the united states government for anything they want to do. so his view is, this is not going to last, he's not unreasonable in the sense that he doesn't think this is a permanent condition, but he knows that he's got that kind of control right now. as a result, he is determined to make use of it, which means that this is his moment. the moment for is realty to establish

permanent is really jewish military, political head gemini, over the region to create not only greater israel, but to put everyone on. notice that they are in charge, and he's doing this because he's confident that he has arrow backing. now, what will the united states doing? what will it not do? well, 1st of all, we're not going to put vast numbers of troops on the ground, largely because we don't have them to commit. but what about, sorry to interrupt kind of let us. so are you into a little bit? i mean, again, i'm giving them, you know, a lot of more credit surely you, it's time for them to try and provoke a response that will end up killing us servicemen and women, which will necessitate the us and response as well. yeah. but you've got to understand something that people are not totally stupid. they, under the understand that our troops are in harm's way. if you go back to the last couple of years of the drug administration, he wanted to shut down all the bases in a rack and syria and get house largely out of the region because he understood just

tell border will they were they used to be what we would call trip wires, in other words, a you strike one of these and then you bring down the entire us armed forces on you because we've made a commitment to a treaty. that's the way nato worked for years as the way things of work and career right now. these troops sitting in those spaces, are it convenient? target said that if attacked, will help justify the commitment of us military power. what i was trying to say is that the military power we commit cannot be on the ground because we simply don't have the ground forces to commit. so how we respond will be largely a function of our air enable power plus special operations forces. but even those are actually overstretched right now. so our response will be missile an air power . and these rallies are confident that that's all that they need. well, that is all that they've needed in the past to deal with the air of states that surround them. but if you include turkey and you're running the equation, you're on certainly is in

a position to level much of israel wizards rocket and missile arsenal. but then the turks have one of the largest and most capable armies in the world. they can put within 30 days to 1000000 men into the field. the last thing he is really is want to do is to provoke the turks. but they've already risk that on a couple of occasions. one is in cyprus, which is a, a very sensitive issue for the turks, as you know, and the other is southern lebanon. and recently mr. one pointed out to southern 11 in is a very important a strategic component of turkish national security. i think somebody starting down and said listen, it is southern 11 and is attacked at 11 is destroyed. it's going to have a terrible strategic impact on us will be settled, not only with refugees, but we are sales could be at risk in this country. so now he is said, if you do this, we will respond now, what is the response mean? and the most far, admittedly, or the one has been

a blow hard. but i think he is really to reach the point that they are confronting to very serious possibilities. one is iran, we know how they will respond, then the other is turkey, potentially, if he goes into southern lebanon, but i think he's decided with our help. he can master all of it. i think he's wrong . yeah. or the one now to hear and again with outside apparently. but then so we can dismiss the, the us involvement to the immediate aftermath of the assassinations into around and be route the tune of 1000 troops. we're going to come on them for these vehicles. i think for what you make of that announcement in the context of the entire global south feeling a wide west asian war, or it's ridiculous. i mean, if we put any number of the marines on the ground over there and they're small numbers, obviously they're going to take casualties. they could easily be defeated depending

on how the, the opponents respond. so this is, this is not 1991. and i think that's another huge problem. it's a problem i would argue, even for president trump at washington lives on kind of a fantasy island, where everybody is fails to note that the world has a defect. profoundly changed over the last 30 years. you and i can sit here and talk about a resurgence of strength and power and productivity in much of the world that we have not seen since the 14th or 15 centuries. americans had no notion that there was once a persian empire, they know nothing about the ottoman empire. they don't understand it for most of human history. china was the richest country in the world, it until the american and he's what, what are you talking about? the, that's our problem. people in washington don't see the changes. there is no appreciation for the strategic implications of their actions. and everything is being ported

risk unnecessarily. and it's mr. net and yahoo is doing that both to israel as well as to us interest. the united states will survive the united states as a large country. we can always disengage, we can pull back. that's what we do when things don't go our way. what happened when the vietnam war ended and we lost, we left and we never went back. we can do that because we're primarily in aerospace or naval power. these really said know where to go. so there's a very dangerous course of action for mister netanyahu. he's attempting to try her to come in and actually eating well one part of one continent arguably may not survive until the war in, in europe. the so called old war, but obviously new and then chinese civilization. what do you think about any uh, input to us from russia to try in the end, the war before the november elections in the united states. the rescue wants to end the war and i think it ultimately will. it will end on terms of rush. you

a stipulate? i think the russians have exercised a great deal of patience and for the most part is paid off. the last thing mr. booted once is a direct confrontation with united states and nato. and let's face it united states as nato. so he can avoid that he will continue to do so. from his vantage point, he looks at the various factors. number one, why push the envelope when you've got it, least in siri election coming in november, that might change the attitude of the washington at least in so far as the white house goes. so why not wait before you go for the full steam ahead and in a place like ukraine. the 2nd thing is why not wait and watch the european governments collapse. and for there they're dealing with far more serious issues connected with immigration, the industrialization. the nationalization essentially the destruction of the west

. why not wait a bit for that to have an effect? what is to prevent future european governments that fall from being replaced by those and say, look, we want out, we want an end of this, especially if you look at germany, which is in a state of almost complete economic, this destruction. so i think he looked at those 2 things, and then finally he sees it. we're willing to embroider ourselves in the middle east, talk about being overstretched. we've been fighting on rushes doorstep. rush, you can fight all day long all month long and for decades on his doorstep we cannot . but it's like us finding in mexico easy, no challenge whatsoever. logistically or in material terms or military terms. that's not the case for them, at least for us. and he knows that we're already weakened the seriously, we've done a norm is damaged to ourselves in egypt. all you have to do is look at mr. ccs position. we have been doing everything in our power to help him and even promising

him this the sky. if he sticks with israel in the united states, if he does much longer, he may not remain in power. and that's the other danger right now to many of the states that have cooperated with us in the past. if they stick with us and our policy towards israel, they were being removed or was everything is shifting against us. and no one in washington either cares or is interested because after all, we are the center of the world. we're the world's great super power. who can challenge us? he just thinks of the arrogance of ignorance, that frames what i just said, just finally then. and i should say, without the leave it uh to immigration, the next time we speak to your immigration, i'll give you from the as a consequence of all the u. s. foreign policies that are being enacted. why do you think finally it is that so many and prepared to speak out? we've had to, you know, form achieves the stuff,

the state department of people advising joint jesus stuff for officials. why is it so many more people are now willing to speak out that we shouldn't have a fact full against these policies? it's anthony blinking. and jake sullivan have been talking so loudly about these past 3 or 4 years. i think because conditions are very serious and they realize that the future of our republic and our way of life here in the united states hang by a thread. i think they know that. but it really makes no difference what i say or what they say. what makes the difference is what the american people opt to do. and unfortunately, when you deal with great powers, like united states history teaches until the population itself suffers. not a great deal will change until we see people at home, the harm directly as result of the things we do overseas. as until we see our standard living fall apart, our prosperity collapse. i don't,

i don't think most americans will be moved to do much and that's why i was trying to get the point across that right now. if you look at the people that president trump wants to install in places like the state department, the department of defense and other key cabinet pose, you're looking at the people that are there now. well, they'll be different people. but really, the thinking about the rest of the world isn't all that much different. that's the problem. so you have one candidate who sits in the middle, who really could be an agent for a substantial change, and he's actively suppressed by the main stream media. and the power structure and that's our f k junior. i'm not sure he can make it as a result. so you got the unit party versus him. and so you pick a wing of the unit party, you pick the trump wing, or you pick the come all away, which one do you want except are of k junior and israel, of course, which is dependable. but the deep state go to douglas mcgregor. thank you. thank

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