the welcome to worlds apart from cancelled culture to the canceling of culture. the western boy called on other things russian has led to paralysis, so far as to stick exchangers, further amplifying the schism created by a diplomatic and i'm all set and economic sanctions of give them the music or dance have always been able to permit language and idea logical barriers on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. we'll discuss that. i'm now enjoyed by your impression of a russian conductor and a world renowned by list your deputy mr. boss smith. thank you for finding the time . thank you for having me of over the past couple of years, what has been said about council culture and especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west. and if it's in the restaurant, this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous. but i'm sure you will agree that

the culture, especially music, has the power to directly influence the human soul. so when you force, going to have subconscious part as well as it conscious one is therefore an effective tool of leverage lee. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open that are see score 1st autumn. yep. we're good in terms of feel certain. what was the compass? that's good musicians. still play phone brushing is i can most the russian plays exactly as david. so if that was still been staged, that was so close whether it was high or the can not be any cancellation, and those who have cancelled something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because im cancelling russian music minutes cancelling a great part of the human. so in general, the new movie, no, doesn't matter what nationality, your whole,

where you live at this deal. it is easy to see why they did it very easy because our politicians, some politicians are for smaller people with and lots of sole. and it tastes from music, while others, new movies have no such taste of sydney, but i focused on hating russia the only the goose end up in the repaired room to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. no, because of. so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive the company may like limiting access to russian performers because they may be stowed with lane some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was just the financial enough, i present it to what you logan wasn't comfortable. you know, there are lots of russian musicians i don't use that i have been living abroad for long to understand is the see if we still the educated and told here in russia together with the 0 to minute. i think that listeners who can still understand the

true spirit a russian music game was i used to go until recently the segment of russian culture and most popular in the west to whom was high culture like music, belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pull, but people with a great depth of perception. do you think the best kind of empathy, comcast disability to distinguish between good find new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave the settled feelings will remain relevant. and yet the, because when we are doing the quote unquote transition to a i the most, then we can meet again and discuss this as long. however,

as our intelligence is human, as lots of social zullie, as long as we are living people to can, yesterday, this visit at some level remained relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls, we had a face on our minds to be as we may of this connection, was it come to be of talking about the authors? so musicians a, of that sound that is the connection between the rational approach really then this is a logical one. most welcome on where your brain controls your hand movements. for instance, the last 2 of or actors and singers, intonations, but that's still something that's far away from what's a i can do is vt screws at the, which you mentioned a i, which is a perfect segue to my next question can was, my person can be taught the right way, but i just think it's not what ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel is

the one that if we teach everyone the right way to fields, to pick them with sudden words. and of course, maybe the major lee proved towards artificial intelligence for us. no. because on the contrary to each person, phase 2 was on the sum total of his or hers unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these experienced in their childhood got so little of what joy's or sad moments, the experience of change and it will be made of this that helps with the civil. it was good understanding of what's good and what's bad. of so the 1st of the quote what the mom and dad, i'm told them with the mom of me. but my mom for example, i'm trying to figure out the most i was interested in this too moody but, but ultimately this could be anybody able to help me in the sense i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie but so yeah, she kept trying different things with me. so like brain thing,

sports does it by the way, are used to defense things get into that. that was a promising young sensor. no. the so to me i missed cuz then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my races. because they lose the flexibility they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo. yes. so my mom made me stop, go into the fence and process more just gucci. while i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at. and that was her last name is natal of considered with the can you? but she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place . that would please quite old. as you can imagine, most of the me, the link below that music school is named up. so the crates deals are still asking if it's my 1st parts of the russian violence. coal deal, which in turn begins as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and so what do you think when people still remember that today with them,

the cross pollination between cultures because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here for most of us, but it was, that's a great question. google's because if you cancel the russian culture the next, that all you must and cancel that influence as well. and that is there still put it in? that would mean suspending was you means holding cultural development would go to computers and that's a really good question to. so you have the most uh, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal ski. if they're still more than this, what ways mean? can you say there's mentality to tears of trinity to him, which is the advantage of the restaurants? cool. is musical thinking. it was a gun name was the that's what it is, the faith and that's what they just saw, a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians. my short and even nicky. i think a great artist is not just someone who hasn't grades,

to click on the stupid, but is always the unique personality. now an innovator and a maverick, a few world introduction. see if there's room. i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument which without the inspiration plays on to e and your to real risk of football season roof of that one level. so you were born into a family that was in physical at all. i'm a but you just mentioned, go to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling were to. so what would be your advice to our viewers? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring of inspiration to feel fully alive. of 17. okay, beautiful. so she has to, 1st of what, you know, the of the good me and there are many documents by which i mean records. so you would need the cheaper. today we're talking about the micro chips, new just to date, we'll say days. no video records for julie. absolutely. i don't think that someone

who has no connection to me is like a good good. we'll just go ahead and buy a re, quote. couple of good ways of a performance by a legendary musician who's a company. so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice be wise mom you have them for dad or the public? yeah, that's because i was, i told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which was still there. so that was like you said, good for those. i don't need tell them to children. i need tell them to the months went through and of course me and my parents were not musicians and they have not go. but my mom had a great to hear from us, like she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up with and she said she didn't have enough patients for long practice sessions pop of upstairs who was the nurse for my dad like throwing it to the work to is that a tronics you know, and it will be pretty close and that he had

a great voice when you're so as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please, my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music going. it's called living at home without a piano, up up, up in my dad. so tired this work, of course they must still tell me that she was upset, coming home from work because he learns how to play something yet. let's go. so that would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell him to the parents once the children to live interesting lives. in this movie, when i took this to, my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture. and that's where prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline. and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are very busy. or if i'm not steak and the strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know. i never tried to, well, the wrong media reports saying, but you've been bound for monitoring. what's your personal take on it?

one person i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by cancelled tours in the west. but what about, you know, i don't see them as canceled. i see them as postponed. the dentist, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades. issue some more on top of that, i have the goals that i'm post my personal sanctions. i don't want to name particular cities or countries, no more to the vehicle. there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movies. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who like me to come and perform there, but they really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that, that was the way to cancel this whole cancel a culture of the thing is that the case thing and if i may get back to my question about ukraine is it's important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents grades or in their way to, you know, i'm still waiting until this whole situation that has to come to its natural

resolution effects. and once it does, i will surely go there. but if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades moved to moscow. i have all the means to do it. a master, we have to take a very short break now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the, [000:00:00;00] the, the waiting issue wouldn't be, should viable video. simulate vehicle telic system, a little d. my, most of my store as the video would

be used for that as an industry feed last time. it wasn't there. so the the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to was important to me if you had a bus from at the russian conductor and

a world renowned violence. you'd have but i'm sure mister bosman machine, i was going to ask you a few more questions about ukraine, but not political ones since you spend to your childhood years involve it's the safety that store allergic stones responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards the brochure or because this is something really hard to understand because the ukrainian socialist republic was getting more financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other grains. half. thank you. craniums held offices of power just nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine. across the way, and i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from because of different, it just starts in 2014. it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born on the whole i was born in north stolen, don't you have 5 when you moved in thought strange. and when i turned 5 into see what was always an incredibly beautiful city, and what do,

and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory of the latest is the way you've probably heard of the golden ring. so it includes lots of work, lambert that's involved now and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities. and oh, world famous musicians would visit the conservatories in these states a significant good several times a year to give up. we now call master classes, and most of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous notes out, but the, the, this father always on one of them. so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was for anastasia. it was beautiful and had its own traditions, and it was something like poland, nor is it like old story, although of course, as a pain influenced by austria, hungary. but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards t of and that was because it involves opinion realty of degree. it did not pass up

any serious fights against moscow. the stadium used email school vice cave was well integrated into the ussr, while level of the screen. you know, when german troops entered the sits agency and they met no resistance. but most, quite the contrary. the local people, welcome to them because they, it's a push to solve them as liberators. go. what types of labor i choose from the soviet so far as a is my children. they had this kind of through, let's say, ro, west or i'm thinking. so from the very starting with 0 to when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children when everyone else smoke ukrainian less. but we could, we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we'll have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, kind of a lot of places have their own sub dialects, traditions things. but it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. you have to give them the ukrainians. williams i think is simply to be russian. but i'm sorry,

this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st. what is to be number one number to lose, and that's all there is to, which means we have the same people. how many families out there are like this is a russian husband, ukrainian wife, vice versa. and they've got the children which this little girl overall, i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue, which i'm only gonna, it's which explains why this bubble. finally, 1st, the bubble has always been there. so you sent that involve russians were it shall we say not always treated in a friendly way, but in salzburg which also mentioned thinks might be moving in the same direction to the corner. i wanted to mention salzburg because it was clear that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument and yes, you were given that on or someone from a unique contribution to the history of music. i grew reading,

dr. viola can also be a solo instrumental step that or the 1990, if i'm not mistaken, do you think a concert like that would be possible today, both on your part and on the part of cost you feel was more anything is possible the could be any problem, you could, there was a time, i don't remember the years exactly new going to happen. and when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense. i mean it, cuz you have with the and i believe i was a 1st year students at the conservatory at that time june got an idea of what it was also then would invite legendary soviet musicians fee as matter. so use, do you mean i know in middle dealers and loan and cogan would go there? some of the younger ones too much think it was the person who, even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively to conduct the whole it thinking this possible a contract to see woods. and that is why i say everything is noticeable and they've been today. the question is whether it's necessary,

whether the person himself wants to go and pass for the concert in salzburg. yes, i was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given. that's what the soonest they can to hold most of the old in my hands, to play it between this and the wonderful coincidence. but at the move, he's the all the turned out to be a brother of my own instruments. they were both made by the same people across and about 3 years about i don't remember which is older, a decent one. but if you were offered the same opportunity today, would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy and diploma on a few week ago or in more lives? no, they were offered. so let's go to most local who do most the silver ones. i've done so many. that isn't isn't the thing is that the new scrum, well, i know i am may be pain immodest. here the budget garden is my namesake up troll

square. all sorts of like a garden at heart, you know, will want to be champions. he has to be number one in sports and music and all with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago when the duke came up with a competition for young composer, some place for you. so we've received $69.00 application so far doing it and one of the winners, by the way, it was a crate in there were still no. is it safe for him to go back home? no one someone was i think is in most co at the moment, but he still has a great name passport. you never changed it. i haven't mentioned personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize though, i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the patron saint of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon, he died in march or his death renewal for refusing to recount his phrase,

in favor of the roman gods, at least one. according to the christian tradition, i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase, for its cultural and historical legacy. as well as for the right to choose its own pulse. but that's what i think, i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context with the fingers made just please don't laugh humans cuz so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave, a magic wand, if blooded my puts in where the little president of europe told of europe, the police don't scare of yours. ended of america. and the a world was, it only goes as p actually. and it's he personifies the good it then use today's conflict is also valid. evil fights and evil. it's about the good thing. yep. yep.

and the good as we see is of course the ssl certificate. and i certainly understand that a while america wants to rule view russell, this opportunity is listed and which make it paid twice the price and less blue or even more of so if the field but all this about the market, does this lou do? and yet, there also people everywhere is good. they've got the governors in every district and lots of specificities. so the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you go to manage from germany. they totally spain and so on and uses. and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one. i think president clinton has no ambitions to fool you over a while. i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. he's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you was a person distinguished with multiple international awards, including a grammy,

a very one acquaintance with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the russia as it is from if not in terms of partnership and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that were equally valuable. that we have the right to be the way we are going to work with. why do i think they think that helps? yeah, i should probably ask them yes it does it because you know it to you. but if you ask me, we have to come over slowly, i can give is my opinion of them to the pros, simple by like dressing in french wine or even cold cruising. doesn't mean that it is there. excellent to tell you. and so i like to tell in wine and food, you know, the wine is amazing and level in the 2002 and their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in session, in tokyo,

when you're writing an elevator, you just, when you said tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the fact that the japan is, it's now not very friendly to russia and what does it for? they simply did not reset the settings. yeah. well, i don't know who wrote this music, gainesville icons say, but they like it's a lot just into the kind of like shopping to do any of them. they loved piano music . so what did they think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here, attempts to be what else showing they also think the trasha represents the opposite of freedom. that's russia is a rob, a regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i wanted to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest little has more than can high culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness full freedom that combines with a lack of taste produces and r k. i think that and that's vulgar. and if

a person has a good taste, and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives, and you'll see everywhere at the resume, exclusively, even as the water and having taste means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah, and that's and that's what makes freedom different from on a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech to, of course you can cut this out. yeah. but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. we need this. no, no, this is because of all the festivals and obviously unless there is to invite the foreigners from other countries of the machine. if they're willing to come meet, they may have problems upon their return home. so someone when alrighty, date is so slow and perhaps more last question the as we see now, this attempt to cancel culture is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, to your door caresses, who is greeks is guessing she's participation in concerts cancelled. mainly for the

initiative of ukrainian positions under various pretext and within one thing, i think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect? a 3 of them, i think was the best answer to your question moist lou tubes that will be if i tell you a story of what happened to me in salzburg go to and that was sometime before the great in conflict, but they have to assess thing woods, and so it probably may ask them if you had a concert scheduled with the local, which in most i'll tell them, hold his truck, the performance went very well and there was left only the world to play one of i'm sure, but symphonies as a 2nd act for them, but for the public was very welcoming. who were a huge success. so people sending and then one person went up to the stage formula and stood in front of it with a slogan. i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly, the audience tried to boot him into silence. like, why, what's this? no. what does it come to the musicians?

well, the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra need. both of you had been working so hard for a week to perform them under my guidance use, and way she of the success. it was great for them to put the old in sort of get to closing. and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan and shouting via but as you and you think it was about cry, mia? and he was probably asking me why i support the saying, but i never even noticed something. i remember go into the beach as of cry. me as a kid was my mom, the of them was you brought to that and what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a. this is and i started guessing invitations to perform the only up to cry me. i joined rush through the room and that's when i realized i don't all the time for me . it wasn't russian. it wasn't mine as well with the yet, but do more, less and so my on so to you is back then i sold some cars. what should i do? came on to that stage for the aides time. seemed for new so but then i picks up my

music sheets, i'm sure, but it's symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience stood up and was told on the close and the police took that amount of weight was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's classical music 1st and foremost to issue some speaking again who to present thoughts. and there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane is so new takes piano lessons and really wants to play better and better. i think that i did it and i've heard him play myself since i'm sure i have these phones make him any more popular in the west, but in any case, the says here is about popularity in the west means it's what mattresses are countries. unity thank you. very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope this here again on once

a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for. so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on the have very quick propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions,

you should ask all of the questions. some more questions asked, the better the answer is will be the the, [000:00:00;00] the saw, the equation, conscription center of the office is not 70 men from the street is mass mobilization in the country goes into holly did according to pena fast. so key of is supporting terrorist enough to solve how