he gave his 1st speech essentially assassination attempt at his rally in pennsylvania, speaking at the republican national convention. it was also the night. donald trump officially accepted the republican presidential nomination, the lack of security, as well as who to hold accountable, still have not been answered. well, at least to the satisfaction of the public, what has been done since the assassination attempt on july 13th and why did it take a candidate to be shocked for changes to be made to protect the president of the united states. i'm sky now hughes and this is perspective the even with all of the advancements and protection technology from what we at this time, no. a 20 year old white male named thomas mathew crooks was able to climb

a 5 foot ladder. he brought to the roof of a building with a 50, found 50 rounds of ammunition and a high powered assault style rifle. now croaks had also flown his personal drone over the riley side just hours before the rally in butler, pennsylvania. his hyundai sonata was close by with the improvised explosive device in the trunk and attached to a translator crook had with it. no exact details have not all been released. but during a contentious 5 hour house oversight committee, the secret service director admitted law enforcement wasn't formed. crooks was on the route, but nothing was done at the time. i don't have an exact number to share with you today, but from what i've been able to discern somewhere between 2 and 5 times, there was some sort of communication about a suspicious individual. well, the secret service director has now resigned,

but chris was able to get off at least 5 shots, including the one that took a piece of president donald trump's ear off. while he addressed the crowd just a few minutes into his speech. a slight turn of donald trump's head to look at a graphic. not only saved his life, but save the country from what could have been an extremely chaotic and dangerous time for the american people. yeah, this is just a simple breakdown of the story. i can tell you, but as you can imagine, it's a lot more complicated. and the events that led up to the assassination attempt of donald j. trump did not start on that day or in that field in pennsylvania. in fact, they started in an office in washington dc, the highest office, the oval office. so it's bringing our panel to that panel for today's discussion. jonathan gillam, former navy seal and f b. i special agent and dominic use of a former chicago area, a police officer, gentleman,

i wanna thank you so much for joining me today. i'm gonna start with you jonathan. do you believe there was a flaw in the security given to former donald j. trump, and where was that? well, the whole thing was a flaw. and from the beginning to the end, the threat assessment was not done properly when they did the advance. i'm not even sure what advanced they did. they did not work as a unit or a joint task force with local and state law enforcement. we're finding that out now there they were nowhere to be seen in the meetings. and when you look at the, the tactics that they used that day, they were horrible as if down, trumpet, sustain, even a nic on an artery. you could have bled out before they got him into that vehicle and put it trying to get on him. so everything that i saw from my protection standpoint, start to finish was a disaster. but where i have the real problem is the timeline. because when you add the timeline to it and all the stuff that was going on with the suspicion,

as is the director, the former director now says this suspicion versus a thread. um, the way they continue to keep trump on the stage was if they wanted to create a funnel for this individual to get on that roof and take a shot. and i don't know if it was that specific shooter, or if it was just any spares any shooter. but there's, when you look at how bad the people are, that they, they put up there, the threat assessment and the timeline. it creates a, at a big arrow that says shoot here. well, and that's the interesting part because obviously the secret services task is protecting their presence, the president, that's their number one jobs, not just bounce checks. and yet there you are hearing some people say, well it's because of the local law enforcement that were involved. and that's why have you on your dominic because you're an expert really in local law enforcement in these situations. what role? who is that? who is the person in charge? in these situations, the local law enforcement, the share of the police officers,

even the state troopers, or is it the secret service and maybe even the f b i, if they're on site, the secret service and that's the high local law. unfortunately, you would be responsible for blocking our traffic and getting your coffee they there, there's no, i don't when i saw this with the 1st time and then i had, we had pressed conferences that night from i believe the state police. it blew me away. how even the state police were allowed to give a press conference on an active investigation. when it comes down to this, when you get the federal and municipal guys working together, even state and county, they, there's barely any communication. the orders are simple, they will not have you involved because your training is nothing like there is. you don't work as a team together. you don't have it like if jonathan with his extensive background i were together. i would have no idea how to want to work with them because our training is completely separate. so when i started to hear that they started to pass the book on local law enforcement that absolutely blew me away because the, the amount of, of municipal involvement for state or county would have been minimal. that bus

maybe perimeter guard and that's, that's, that would be the, the, the but the bottom line. well, how many different groups of law enforcement are usually on one of these sites? and i don't know which one would probably better. i mean, i see that jonathan, how many different groups are there, and are they able to all talk to each other on a single channel? that's a very good question. so i would say, typically you're going to have, it depends on where you go. if it's a smaller town, you're gonna have more state police there and probably the entire local police force. and maybe there's some surrounding forces. it will take part. but if it's a bigger city, their police force and again you'll have state police and then you may have task force officers that are there as well. you could have eyes, uh, agents that are there filling in for the dogs or for something like that that they typically like to stay with secret service. or at least that's the way i thought doing those particular things. and then you use the police as a blocking force more or less and, but it's as far as the,

the overall communication goes. uh, a lot of the times they will have a dedicated channel that they can share with the other departments is a little different. now that it's digital, then it used to be so they can have a dedicated channel that everybody can use. if there's an emergency, they go to that channel do come in and control which they had it this, it, this event, but nobody apparently was using it. well, that's the question, especially as in said, i did it by this man minutes multiple minutes before the actual shooting took place . you would think that it would been a state of emergency to a certain extent, which brings me to a question that either one of you can ask them to start with you dominic, honest. who actually would be the one to get the directive or do you even have to ask permission if somebody has and they are on the property where the president of the united states is speaking or the former president and has a gun on them? do they have to get permission to shoot a dog again? again, when it comes down to this?

if it's going to be an event, like having trump or speak it at us, i don't care if it's a small town or wherever it's going to be run, show flawlessly, you're not going to have. and i'm not trying to dump on local cops, but we've seen the quality of police officers on the street lately. you're not going to have somebody who has 0 tactical experience. you maybe, you know, it has an occasional traffic stop here and there from our town involved and such and involved. this will be good, but it requires such precise tactics. so i can't, i can't imagine the secret service not coming in and raising the living hell out of every agency for weeks or at least a couple of months ahead of time saying you're not going to do this unless we say so. this is the way this goes and the story, and i don't think you're going to risk involvement for that. so when it comes to local cops again, i can picture a local police officer being even remotely allowed to be in that area. it's a doing gauge, a threat for screwing up whatever tactics the fed setting course. so, i mean,

he would like to think it'd be saw somebody active with a gun, but then you know what? because we don't know what the secret service does. how do they know it's on a plain clothes person that saw standing guard? it's just too much in the mix. you can't mix municipal and federal with a couple of weeks worth of communication. or is it say that they say that because speak uh jonathan. yeah. that i think that's what's interesting because is dominic says flawless right? typically when you see the secret service or a protection detail, i should say when they do their movements, like when they're moving through a crowd or he's on stage, you're going to see them standing there projecting strength. but when something occurs, it should be a flawless rapid movement to get them in the vehicle and then see what injuries they may have and get them out of there as fast as possible, as flawlessly, as possible. so that's a tiny little piece of that. and it was a disaster. and when you add into that other tab school you, it's which we're, we're hearing that and the local tax will unit took

a shot as well as what something i've heard reports of as well. the secret service . why is that the case? well, i think that's the case because they had both teams account or snipers. we know that it was the least 2 on rooftops that were right next to each other. and so neither one of them had a clear shot or a clear view of that, the, the rooftop that the shooter was on. so really the flawless part of the sit down and was talking about did not exist at all during this operation. and again, i keep going back to the fact that they're asking the question why, why was this major gap set there? because when i say major, when you step back and you put all these parts there, everything and i'm excited about everything i've talked about. it creates this funnel that even a blind sniper could take a shot from and have a good chance of hitting the target. and the thing is, this was not the 1st trump rally that he had done. in fact,

he's been doing these for or think we're going on your 6 of the so it wouldn't be the 1st one. they should have it down to a routine it, it should be very tight. but as you pointed out, it wasn't flawless. it was so gaping, you have to wonder who's given the directive. so dominique, let's talk about the director because in september of 2022 kimberly a title was sworn in. she was the 27th director of the secret service. but this followed her retirement a year before where she had worked for pepsi's or she had been of the secret service she got out to the private sector, which is what a lot do because that's where you can make more money. and, but she had previously served on the biden detail and came back as director at the president biden's requests. so that brings the question, should the director of the secret service be a political appointee? they are, it's a, this, this goes all the way down to every level out there. people wanna look at her on a federal level, being a political point. you guys don't realize that your, your police chiefs are political pointed by your mirrors. this is a root foundational problem and law enforcement across the across america. it's

they put in who they want. and if you look, i should, as a 1000000 times, my former chief was the head of lake county major crimes task force and a police chief. and he was a dispatcher with no police experience. so this happens every where in america, so i, you know, you can't follow her, but you can follow the game. and yeah, it's, it is, it's politicized. and to be honest, if you just your 1st subordinates wherever allowed to talk, you'd hear well the reality about how she probably ran that agency. well, and i think internally it wasn't just her, but it was also the seo and the deputy director that i think people have questions for yet. at this point, we still have just the director who is actually offered her resignation force, almost because of her growing that she had in front of congress. but i want to go back to how the agency is handled things, cuz obviously there's also been pushed back on female circuit secret service agents . what's your take a look at this video. it's gone viral. as a woman, a female sort of service agent is seen here. seemingly unable to host or her gone,

and then she takes it out, looks to be unsure of what she's supposed to meet to age or see for to female. and then once she arrives to the hospital with the former president to to, to other women or say that the raleigh who are too short to actually protect a president, that is what 6 foot for from gunfire. is it fair to say the director tito, and some of the women assigned that day our product of d. i or the diversity of quality and inclusion initiative, and was this woman even qualified for her position? hop on issue for 2 men to add? so that's what i'm gonna ask both of you to say it. jonathan, you start. i grew up with the 3 sisters and no brothers. i got beat up our girls my whole life. that's probably where i became a seal. and i have no problem with strong women. and scotty, i, i've no, you, you're tall. so you would be a way better if we train you up tactically and you're, because i know you're aggressive strong woman to put you in front of donald trump. but you can't put somebody who's 5 foot 4 who can't pull weight. all those

individuals that really are male or female we're, we're not aggressive. uh, trump should have sustained an injury at least from getting yanked off that states so fast. but even the tadpole guys that came up there, they acted like they didn't know what to do. all 3 of those females didn't know what to do. and the whole thing was so chaotic that i would say people have to understand the d. i doesn't just mean females, it also means people who are not qualified because once you open the gate, there's certain types of people that are going to take advantage of that. people who go who graduate from ivy league schools, people have resumes that are stellar. and what they stop looking for were guys like it is though guys like myself who have experience in the military in law enforcement. the secret service guys that i knew that uh, that that guarded quinton. when he 1st went off, as i was in college working at the hotel where they stayed, they were all 6 foot 36 foot for foreign military or state troopers. and they've

got up every day and ran 6 miles with clinton and then went out and worked all day . they were aggressive hard individuals who moved with lightning speed when they needed to. i don't know what that was. and if in d, e, i goes way further than just females, it's just a complete disaster. and by the way, say this one of the thing, what cheadle did in and being with the secret service, getting out at a top level as a, as an executive. and then coming back into the federal government is another political game that gets played. where they put people in the seo or these, these presidential or, or vice president positions and, and companies. and then they bring it back in because their loyalty. so that's a whole game. all those people know each other and then you get this mess of a leader that's been around the secret service for 35 years, 35 years. and this is almost forgetting the fact of the gender issue. and it just

seems like common sense you have, it's hard to take a bullet for somebody if that person still has to feed on you, when the bullets are going towards you, dominic and your thought on this because trump has gone back to doing these rallies and despite increased security, it seems pretty typical including putting the audience behind trump while speaking . do you think that was a smart idea and what changes should actually have happened considering what has happened in the past? and do we have any reassurance is that there are changes besides just seeing a few more vehicles and taller people guarding the president or? no, i can't. i can't talk on changing the details because again, that's not my tactics a background and i won't even remotely, you'll pretend to insult with what the fed should do. but if it's good, well, i'm going to reinforce what johnston said. it's standards with the standards for law enforcement or show disgusting. we low, i could say blanket lee and i do say and very publicly, in my opinion, i do not think that female should be involved and what involved a law enforcement. i just don't. well, we have so many men out there. thanks to lowering of standards and education and

fitness. i'm 5 foot 7. when i was a kid, there was no chance i was going to be a copy because they had a 5 foot 8 requirement and my mother warned me just not going to happen. thank god . in the ninety's, they got rid of that and i was able to become a cop. but when we search, open those doors to let in people that honestly, you shouldn't have as police officers and you change the standard. well now it's no longer like an elite calling, so people don't raise their level of standards to go in and their education, their fitness, their passion, and you get crap d i is just open the floodgates for crap. i'm not right i. i will be ragged on that woman. she was out of shape. she was not technically sound. she was short. again with me, i shouldn't have been on that. that detail if that was the case. so there's nothing wrong with having standards and saying this is it, you don't reach our standards, end of story, but we're afraid to do that for, for part of the all the, whatever the media or last what you're going through our way. so we, we just need to go back to standards, hardcore standards and there are places for female secret service agents. there's

are wives, daughters or places that only females are able to go to protect those that need protection. so it's not like we're saying that women should not be the secret service. that is not at all, but they should also be addressed as or they should be just as megabytes together exactly. up to level jonathan domini. let me say this, let me say this real quick standards are created by, by need you do something, it doesn't work. you create a standard to do it better, or somebody else has a standard you, you adopt their standard. if somebody needs to be 6 foot to make that standards, if they don't, then that's fine. but. 2 in anything and a law enforcement where they're doing investigations or street work or protecting somebody, aggression is the name of the game, controlled aggression and determining what and protection what height do you need and what skill set they need. some are skill sets go one way, some skill sets going other well i know the skill set that i need because we're about to take a break. so jonathan, dominic, you stay right here because when we return, we're going to discuss with our panel,

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i'm your host guy. now he's probably the only time we talked about what went wrong is when we follow something that goes wrong. let's bring back in our panel. we have dr. gillam, former navy seal and f b. i special agent and dominic, he's a former chicago air police officer. thank you gentlemen for staying with us. and so here is the $1000000.00 question and obviously i don't know if you know the exact answer. and if you get a part of the answer to every single agent, that's a current way. i think there's $3400.00 plus. yeah, a part of the secret service. a service you don't make. do you feel the majority of secret service agents on details can be non political? i would like to help show, but i don't think it's possible today. i really don't. it's a good with how we're just in and did a non stop. everything goes to our phones and our faces. i think it's impossible not to be political. i really do. i would like to hold on the ideals of law enforcement and say that, you know, we can hang on to our passions and believes and still serve properly. i just don't know anymore. i really don't. well, it's interesting because it's not like that in the media. they say we're not opinions. we're going to have opinions since why we came in the media and you want

somebody to shift actually like food. that's why they became a chef. so it's kind of interesting that and these people that work with these, did these protect these as you definitely know this, jonathan, you get to see who the really like, not just for the tv screens are and i've been surprised of what some of my friends in the service of come back and said people like bill clinton was extremely favorable. everybody got along with a rather you like their politics or not. people like vice president my past, not so much. so considering that thinking, former director, it was a part of jill biden's detail, it was friends with them. do you think it can be non public, the political, especially if they work directly with one of the candidates? and is it right for them to necessarily be the ones that assign the detail for the opponent of the person that brought them on the job in the 1st place? so i agree with this though, but i will say this one thing is that an operator, somebody who is trained to an elite level, that they are about the job, right?

people who ignore the depths factor and know that there are an aggressive part of an elite team that will do their job no matter what. now when you get that mindset and it's not just the mindset, but you got to go through the training, you've got to go through the training for a long period time where you've trained the stress out. when something happens, you act, you don't react. so you can get to a level where you are concentrate on the job and you're concentrated on this the, the office that this individual holds, right? and so in protection of protect a lot of people and they are protected, fewer people that i liked, then i dislike output to you that way. but i don't, i'm not there to like or not like them. however, when we look at the political nature of what we live in now you go to the f b, i, you go to the iris, you go to the atl. if you go to the secret service,

now you go to all these different agencies in the d o d and what you get are put people who put politics, if not even with their position in tactical position, but above where you had a secret service agent. when trump was in that said, she was in colorado, she was a, i believe, in a and as a see a special agent charger assistant specialist in charge said she would not take a bullet for trump. that that is her sole job. she is living breathing body armor. and uh so it, it does get in the way, especially at the higher levels of, of all these political agencies. and i think when you look at the way that trump was treated with these details and with these lack of threat assessments, i think that's what you're going to end up seeing. well, that's the thing dominic obviously lawn for says come into scrutiny depending on an event that happens. in this case. do you think that it's been fair how secret service the agency has been treated throughout all of this? and should they hold the brunt,

or is this something that's the top press down and those that are there on the field or just following commands at the risk of losing their job? you know, i think the, i think all the pressure should be on everybody rank and file the everybody. or if we're not going to pressure test the living hell out of everybody from our street culture, a federal agents, nothing in law, unfortunately change. and right now law enforcement is a business all the way from last several years to this latest assassination attempts. know, are we need to be pressuring the living? hell, going back to what i said about standards for the people who are in the, on the streets and the details in the command positions the directors. i don't care, we need to hold everybody accountable as far as we possibly can. well, i want to thank you john. the jonathan last friday. i got keep any interrupt you the in. but if you look at the, the reagan detail when he guys shot, you don't see individuals looking around as though they're making their job up. they shove him in the car and then the individuals that are still there,

take control of that scene. you don't see people trying to put their sunglasses on and fix their jacket and stand it parade, raft, or not parade rest. you'd i, poster got one of the tenants. will the cat team supposed to be the elite of the secret service? goes on the stage and takes a need and then gets back up. i don't even know what, what that was all about, why he would feel the need to do that. but when you, when you look at reagan and that error of secret service and how they work, those are individuals, a new every part of their job. and they were cut for from the cloth that needed to be wrapped around reagan. well that will be, that's a difference. and that is difference would be interesting to see what changes happen. time will tell, especially if you get donald trump back in office, you know, that's going to be one department that he will definitely look at. does it go on dominic? he's a thank you always for coming on and having a conversation you got it. thank you. enter jackson, abraham lincoln, james, a, garfield, william mckinley theatre, roosevelt, john f. kennedy, ronald reagan,

and following the events of july 13th donald j. trump can add his name to a list of united states. presidents have been targeted for assassination. now, for us, presidents have been killed before. others injured. and just like with everything else on time, the ability to protect the leader of the free world has greatly evolved open carriages and convertibles are instead of replaced by heavily armored vehicles called the beast. and instead of people being able to just walk up and listen to the president speak, now you must go through a series of screenings and metal detectors. if you want to get close to the stage, they'll have pre submitted your name and social security number for a full background check. they're always going to be factors. however, if a situation is set up to fail from the beginning, it is a miracle to stop something evil from happening. an evil that would have spark more than just grieving, but anger not only in the united states, but around the world. it should be no secret that when you are task for protecting the president of the united states,

your service is not just one person or even one country, but rather to keeping the peace for the global community. there should be nothing part of sitting about peace or its protection. but hey, that's just my perspective. i've got to know hughes, thanks for watching. the

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