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i assume that the we are in north a city, a in the congress has mountains where beautiful people have been coming together to celebrate the ancient traditions since the beginning of time itself, where everything has a special symbolic meaning. i'm john thomas. this is in mind visions. and today we're discovering of the world of a such and culture the,

the, the, we are heading to the city of the dead. a mysterious medieval village called the gods did as heaped in miss and legends in years gone by. it was claimed. those who visited would never emerge on life. but we'll take our chances. the 1st place is fascinating. there's an incredible energy here. it kind of feels like we're going back into the ancient times, if you will. where are we exactly? what is this place? as a matter of fact,

this is an ancient or medieval symmetry. but the way it is arranged is absolutely unusual. what we have here uh the so called volts. they were supposed to be it too and the houses for the deceased and the i believe the all the things that have flo will roll but it to and it to uh, impressing i have reducing the gets into the, under the influence. now in terms of cities of the dead, this gorgeous one of the biggest in a set you in terms of the crypt themselves inside some of the people a to the rest are in both like structures even. i can't help but think about the river styx and greek. mythology. are they related to how does something from greek

mythology end up all the way here and the said to greek, this all i do is also hope in the european route. and the officials belong to the uranium branch of the to cell rico. the cultural community and in this is of course we have relation. but to my mind, lose the coffins with the cattle feeders and the us cattle feeders. they have the idea of it to an o wife and to, to make the picture more convincing. i should say that when the woman was giving this to a new born child, she would also lead down into this uh,

fee to you. and then this fee, the, because the place where the past and future to meet each other. now strategically located is this place symbolic, even in its placement in our conversation before you're talking about, we're really at the center of the universe. uh, exactly, and the that sensory is a just to the right side of my hand. this is the bow full, full for us issuing means mountain bow is the piercing only. and it is connected with ledges with the riots which are very important in a session. that's the cultural tradition. what about these towers that we see everywhere or family towers? um, what do they mean? i mean, they're everywhere in terms of when you're going through the mountains here. some

of the tell was were so it's all the cost. so they were erected to be uh for to suitcase and the construction for the family. this one is the white one hand, all the other hand. they will also secrets as the was a, symbolizing mountains and the some toys they were used for worship those in ethics for addition that we read that he most ro follow would be 3 pause, go up to the toe and for you to the gold because she was closer to him. so i've heard this phrase when doing research for, for this program that you can't build a tower from a ruined village,

but you can build a village from a ruined tower. what does that mean? that males, that's a key rule should be attributed to the human beings to people. if there are no people, there is no use of any so, and you tell it to react to it. i guess the general idea is that with all the people there is no life. there is no community. there is no. so what about some of these towers date all the way back to the 15th century. they are very old. so some families are trying to restore their towers. some are building new towers. what does it mean for a family to actually have a tower? that's was the symbol of the high social status. it wasn't that easy. we used to model the buildings and we ever didn't clear look down

at the, at this. so i came to, i was made over the simple stoves, yet it needed the several years to wrecked such or so. and it's uh, i need it very much to have to build this because the technique itself requires the set. the cool it's, is that, uh today we do not even realize. now i know that here in a sort of a worship of christianity, there's also as well and there's also their own a set in religion as well. is it true that a orthodox christian and uh, and a muslim considered at the same table after worshipping and not have any problems. so let's absolutely through the audio underlying the,

this fact is that especially on through addition adults both christianity and the east loan within the frame of the so called into european culture hero. and the, the, and i do you underlying this cold is the readiness of the hero to sacrifice one's old, one's own life. you favor of the community in favor of the human times. from this point of view, the soul that jesus christ as to why it was the hero who was ready to go to save the others. and the riots over the sacrificial animal is also in practical manifestation of this idea. in this alarm,

literally scooter month, later on, which also the many says the same audio and the families were one browser would go to the tools and the other would go to move to the mosque. and the going back home in the evening. they would the assemble their own traditional and the 3 pause and pray to go to my to do it was absolutely no problem. the synergy of religion and culture. could you say that that's the basis of what it means to be a set you to my mind. it sees the basic idea beings that, that the road, the different ways that the, the to one and the same go that is the good old molly to me and for you personally,

someone who's lived here. you're from here, you've studied the history here. what does it mean for you? when i say i said you, it is mazda loans, it is the place where i belong, and the it is the place where the wheels volunteer, and that is the center of the universe. d as the city. right. thank you very much, appreciate it. you're. busy welcome the when you drive through the mountains of north of city and you come across these giant installations every now and again. they are almost like east director that

serve people with a little reminder of where they are. we're off to meet, are towards music, off the man behind this project. thank you for a meeting us out here. this is really a beautiful piece. so i have to ask, is this just a piece of art, or is there more meaning behind it? besides, you look at the, we created the sculptures and the installation is to capture the various aspects of associated history through contemporary art. so it is just before symbolism, i say, well the most and this particular work about the dips on it carries a lot of symbolic significance for us. imagine us, which is what each. so if the meaning is to promote a city and culture. uh, how does a letter or a wheel or a giant cornucopia achieve that task, posted civil cooking for services. we built these pieces with a lot of tourist. so being coming to take pictures, you some old poppy dozen others as the wheel, for example is so massive and it just draws people to it. uh, besides what see,

it also represents the wheel of some sort of a symbol of its own, the sake of life and lots of visitors like taking pictures around it. so he's good news. let's just as for the corner, copious or the whole of kenzie recreated it because uh grandfather's grandmothers is that when we were small, had these phones hanging on the walls. it meant that every house, so have the own abundance of something where they give this to and now the mile decades laser, you mean most people by the throne, the swans away on last, the last this valuable piece of history and username. and so what do you have bundles that symbolize the every family has moved on somewhere, so i crossed over into motor and it's a, it's of a mind that john hall and we installed on the side of the rug is to honor the memory of our grandparents still one time we saw older people heading up that find them when they sold a hole. and they pointed that in and said, we used to have a home like that or boy at home. we were so happy to hear that you use. it meant

that we basically achieve the goal. we set out for this odd piece the sale to quote, you know, workshops, but yeah, we follow a sort of strategy or approach to make pieces of odds, which while martin could still have a certain sense of history to them, a sense of the old or me we tried to combine these 2 phones, look at this guy. the same goes for all sculptures and installations. isn't that course with these pieces of molding? not? yes, ma'am. you know, but all that is, we also have a national significance for us national and historical significance, and that's in line. and the same is true, the kissing fund is it's an ancient musical instrument, as well as the terms of bodies made in a kind of a modern style for border. so to me and i'm still now you have said that you have agreement to create a symbol that would unite all of the set you. what would that symbol look like? mazda is, we've got quite a few workshops here in the set. yes, i'm with. so we can pull resources for joint projects, filler. one place makes a leg over the other hand cetera for to and then you just bring these workshops

together and completes it. now what exactly could we choose for the piece with more with it could be a knowledge acquainted with my hero of assess the and folklore of what we could choose, a specific county to from the not. and then we have out schools of all levels to participate in the project school to bring people together and organized a competition to the best design with them. so like one stops on the project at the time. you are an artist, obviously you have pride in a set you up because you've created this project. what does it mean for you to have something like this as a representation, as an artist? here in a set you personally most beautiful. we want you to know what's the most important thing we get out of this as quickly. maybe when your kid, your parents often feel anxious about what you're going to be when you grow up. what i did to, to see that i had a team of about 8 people with them off to the objects were installed on the project . got a lot of attention was of so i found out that the parents of my team members were

really happy to mind. the boy approach me personally as the creator of these objects for him and told me that there was so proud to see what the children are doing. i'm no good. you're not hearing those parents woods. he's meant more to my heart than anything more than having my name on the saying why to the music is an important part of a such and culture and making musical instruments is a secret act. for many years, the time dear factory has been making and renovating musical instruments, according to ancient rules, techniques and traditions the, the, the

time alone. um, i know that you follow the most ancient rules and techniques introduction for making your instruments. what are some of the most important ones? when we started the work, we knew that these instruments were authentic because of safety and have very few of them left with many of the instruments that existed did not survive the mongol invasion to moments to move. people had forgotten this sound language. we knew that the kitchen fund did, and the deluxe, and it would be coughed from solid wood to make these 2 instruments resonate. craftsman originally used leather because they couldn't make other materials work at the time. we also started with another resonate us, but we realized that the exact sounds had been lost over time. so we couldn't make them sound like they showed in the end, we started making the deck out of would be something that i found it incredibly interesting is that a luther has to have an incredible reputation. meaning that you can't be solely by crime or have your name hurts in any way. so in terms of

being an instrument maker doesn't being an incredible craftsman, is simply being enough or do you mean why do you have to have such a good reputation that they do this? that's an interesting sort when i think it was people with highly developed musical sensors who had the requisite qualities and the 1st place they have to be pillar of soul in mind. as it said in the not so goes the sagas speak of add some us, a creator of instruments, produced sounds so noble that the musician seemed incapable of any wrong doing either. the oldest instruments we have today is set to being created by a not named still don't to return from a long do i need to find his children killed and but now he didn't know why and was beside himself. he took the hand of his eldest son to make the neck of an instrument and use some of the other bones to make the resonate to us and says, that's how he used the remains of his children to create the instruments known as the doing. dustin on this and the depth of its sound and its ability to express sorrow was so great that it became the most popular instrument among the settings

for centuries. and then the idea that the lucy, a must have a pure heart and mind is always present enough tales. useful, is also what about the type of wood that you use? is there any special specific wood or is it just any generic would, might work the sooner? traditionally, of course, we continue what's been done for centuries. we have naples, i mean sick, i'm all maple. so the deck, the body body is made out of that was the so that we use the spruce for residents. so we haven't moved away from some of the canons of instrument making its way with the used to be popular. rented was necessary for residents, wild parents, melbury because of the composition of the woods and held sound. well, today we've come to the point where the body is made of maple in the resumes over spruce. what about the preparation for the would you have to do anything special to it? i heard that sometimes you might even have to boil it. is that true is that certain they will be odd. woods must be boiled to extract the excess sap and these new so it becomes more porous, which means it reflect sound. well, for exclusive models,

we drive that would naturally for 5 or 6, see it as the looks of it. but the wood we boil is beach and maple, whom we bought. and because it gives a clearer, a sound reflection with its strength to various likes, to use spruce from georgia for the body. and what would you use the word exposure to the, to the was mostly from the northern slopes of south is that the, the spruce trees that grew, that had a good sound reflection from one of them. so he loved that type of wood and spent a lot of money to get it from here. so we're also taking advantage of this build up was and see the momentum. i know that there are a lot of different superstitions and traditions about these instruments. for example, being able to tell the weather from how the instrument looks can you talk to me about then the it's an interesting question. the practice, the only involves this instrument and then the cushion fund did you find the most getting as tightly stretched to produce the right temperament to, to prevent it from shrinking, they used to heat it up from time to time from the however, when the weather changed, the instrument would freak a little the same, it would be this happened due to increased moisture in the end,

condensation of the settings could tell the instrument had shrunk by the sound it produced, which also meant the weather was changing. well, the people might not feel the bones that the instrument would always respond to changing with them. another important aspect is that the sound pitch or the frequency of the string was used to rescue people from under landslide or avalanches, which in bad weather can cause smooth drift here. because if someone went hunting or to fetch, hey, they couldn't under one or 4 or 5 who do for this instrument is the one to use to find them was a rescue was would play it over the snow testing. it's deb, it's more than you think of with when there was a cavity beneath the strings dotted to sound different, so they dig in that spot and recover people. and when this method is described in many sources, many people know about it. so again, it was only the kitchen fund that was used for that limit a change, and it's the string pension indicated that the people trapped under the snow. you mean we haven't done this with our instruments, but the fact is, it's part of

a history. it's, you know, folk tales, you know, sound as me is who played play one up like this and see what the need for these again. and the game is news and a slight change and the parents would tell them there was a person under the snow. that's what they used to do. so that's something i sounds fascinating is i heard that to get the right kind of would you have to pick would that is on the southern and facing slope of the mountain? is this true and why is it the is that that will still yes, that's true. the distance between the gross rings of a song tree is important. why? the japanese with the 1st to prove that equal spacing between tree rings. when 10 general cuts are made to provide suit of sound reflections, the ship, the correct what you said. it's a very important detail. this needs to be taken into consideration when the what is cost quotes and the spaces between the tree rings should be perfectly equal. if it does well, then the sound is echoed properly. because this moves the vibrational properties of

the wood on how long does it take to make an example? for example, this one right here, how long does it take you to make from beginning to end? move dunham? so this instrument here was made from a hollowed out block of wood, the cutting the body from what is the traditional techniques that we use. it took us 2 months to make it who is the you have to be very careful when removing wood from the sound box to ensure universal sickness, vital for even a proper sound reflection. and so it took us around 2 months to cross this instrument. i understand that this is not your specific instrument, but you do play, do you mind demonstrating what you can do? i'm not that's good with the both. but i can show you something on a pluck string instruments this the fun deal here. and do. ready the

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