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or that would be wonderful life. and that even worse, you know, somebody said a 1000000 iraqis that release killed are displaced and the infrastructure destroyed . like all the deadly betrayal because of that light. now why do i say that the reason why we've been in a rack, as you mentioned, most of the countries are reg, was just a 1st stage of us eventually going into syria. then i ran as you well know, maybe it was taken off by local nato, but that was a part of the scheme as well, but what prevented us from going into syria. and then later on in iran, which we'll discuss later, was because we're back, we got tied down because it is honestly, as you would probably remember in history you had. so i'm in the bush administration saying, oh, it will be all take walk, will be welcomed with open arms. well, that didn't happen. and the insurgency prevented us from actually carrying out the same thing that we tried to do in a rack. i mean, there were honorable exceptions to those. um, people who kept quiet, david kelly,
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the british government scientist who was a source on my bbc program today. the today program in britain, which led to resignations of the director general of the bbc and so on. you knew that they were lies going on when you were there in the top. the star of your book . is it mangled douglas feet? who is he? because people are fight. you want to get to know he is. and you way to 20 is to cool him out. what he hell do was to endanger, kill those 4 and a half 1000 service man and women maybe you help to do that. and the 10s of millions displaced in the road. who is this man? well, let me tell you about douglas. by that time douglas bike was a number 3 individual. dependent on you had rumsfeld, been well purchased as deputy and then the deputy volt policy, which the template was the position that dropped by to build. so now let me tell you my background and my started how i,
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i came into this but we get to the find because that's how i came into contact with the bike. uh, as i was on active duty and military, of course we all throughout the world was startled by the 911 attacks until the united states. and so like any other country, we were word examples, some of one of the bands. and we felt that we had to retaliate against those that had attacked us. and so the military, we were all born. okay, we need to go to afghanistan. but we brought it here and after we had replaced the taliban, we started here in about deploying to a rack. and that was surprising to many of us in the military. we don't understand what the wreck have to do with 911. and i just cannot see myself sending troops all well more than i did not believe in. and i remember sending an email to the camera to join to staff at the time general myers and said, listen,
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i'm not understanding. i'm getting a lot of concern from the troops, us and why are we going to our rack? what do they have to do at 911? and as i was getting from the kind of god, i knew many of both at the pentagon said to, aside as i've had to previously, i, i just didn't, couldn't buy it. and i decided to retire from the military. so that got vocally, speak out against the war. never really knowing why we would go into a rack at the time. i just had this good feeling. when we started hearing about w in days, i started asking pulse. they've been gone. uh, have you seen any sign of saddam haven't w and dates and nobody could tell me? and so i decided to retire and i decided to step out and to disobey and we're all going to be able to protest worth you will. well, i was out of the pentagon in the military or few months and things wasn't going well for me in just a 1000000000 world. and i had a friend, the contact is a rich. we need you to come back to the pentagon and i had been in my life for 28 years and i gave bad. but as i would tell, many of folks, you know,
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i believe in divine intervention, and somehow i ended up working in that number 3, spot, undefined. and then our job was at the time because of the fact that the red ward was still across versus it was going down in history parkway, the biggest foreign policy blunder body united states. uh, we were told that we needed to start the classify. most of the pre planning, i'll write word documents, and because of my background, i was uh selected for that change with the all those documents we felt under douglas by the time i knew little about the fight. but as i walked into the pentagon for 3rd time, there was a lot of just like a big dog point in the past of my peers. and i have to kind of gone google. it's called a political, what didn't get into the political world. but as i went back to the kind of god, it was all political we could talk about the other service was he is released by
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well, here's what i always tell folks how i operate. i can give you an assumption. i can give you an opinion and i can give you a buzz back. now, i can't give you a fact, but i've been told by a number of sources that the date was a spot. now what i can tell you the time that i was in the pentagon and what we call the office that go to the principal policy, which does like ran uh you had a lot of is rarely bucks. one is getting it out of the pentagon. uh, at the time, i can also tell you that uh, the one the most, most most ready to go to run of the war. each capital visual uh had a, an individual who they would talk to individual to keep them posted on what we're doing in regard to planning or the invasion of a rep. and the point person that doug 5 is keeping in touch with was at the time the, the net and yahoo was, i think at the time of the finance minister,
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he was not at that particular time prime minister. but that's fine. which i can tell you. do go back, none of the pages, none of the something. what's keeping being at yahoo informed what was going on. so i can tell you if you will just by, but i can tell you he had a lot of direct communication will be gone too. but besides that, you might have to explain what far is for an agent registration? yeah. would, would it not be? yeah, go unless, if someone was doing stuff with another government in that way, should they be registering somewhere before they swimming around to can as well. this is, do you just have the nerves and you got a nerve? and a lot of us in the foreign policy, national security, a renter here in the united states, many of the country they will probably be criminal. oh, what's going on right now in independence of israel? i can tell you if you look at the history of this uh, john kennedy present,
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back in the sixty's. i attempted to warrant that for back to uh, registered down as a ford agent, anybody's working federal on behalf of israel here in our country. and i can tell you it has not worked. uh, you know, the big elephant and the roll. and i'm just gonna get right to it right now, is that the one to be our congress or whatever, but just raise it as an office at the time. a lot people like, you know here say this, but our congress is bought and paid for by just really lobby. yeah. in your book you even mention of old people called lisa rice, criticizing your boss to douglas fight for carrying the mail for israel. i mean, that's a national security advisor at the time. she knew it was the address and care in the mail for the cool part of it because it wasn't, it could and nothing. yeah, exactly. yes. yeah. if anyone thinks this book is just history, you say in the book that um, you do,
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or at least you talk about the legal military presence in syria, under the guys, these guys are fighting terrorism. many americans won't even know that. tell me about this occupation of syria and is that a hangover of of the allies cold? uh, uh, i suppose by is really proxies to uh, the us officials, uh, 20 years ago. almost. well, i'm glad you raised that point because as i mentioned earlier, the, the plan was to go into our records. and the reason behind our racket was because of the back under the bill. platinum. it is the reason we have what we call every game policy change and that was not carried out during the clinton administration. and so when, once the bush administration came in, you know, filled with neil cods, they were going to use as a rational. now to go in and, and take out saddam on the so called we didn't change policy. now,
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syria was going to be next. when i was here with you, whether it be a wreck or syria, their sovereign countries, their sovereign countries. what right do we have 1st of all, to attack a rack and next ball what it gives us the right to be in syria, uninvited, by their government. and so that in itself is illegal. now the reason we are there other, the so called disguise of the war on terrorism is to maintain sunsets a control in syria. if it not, it will not work for us getting tied down in our rack, as i stated earlier, but it certainly handled by the way we would have been in syria. but to prevent that as well. rushed her, came into the, into the rescue a syria to so in order, so we can expand further into syria. now, i've heard folks say that we're in syria to protect your bill,
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which is true. now i don't know who that all is intended for, but i'm told by sources and, and when i say i'm told by sources, right, that's what i'm given an opinion because i don't know what to be tacked, but i, so i've been told by folks who i believe that they're there to protect all pills, or here's me that they're legally there's being all sent to israel from the northern part of syria. ok. cheap. uh dear. on that klafonya $210.00 is fritz. how stop you that? i'll stop you that more from bill through the deadly betrayal the truth about why the united states and they did a rock after this break. the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we're so shorter that conflict with the 1st law show your mind. and just in case we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. at the point
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obviously is to make a truck rather than fit the area. i mean with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team in the the robot must protect this phone, existence was only exist the to possess your country. they want to possess your you around noon, they want to possess your gas. they want to at least share why you know, to and was good for them because he was just opening all the doors. but the problem with them is they do not understand that the connectivity sticks of people who they are dealing with as much as you press. the bear bear will come out the proverb, it'd be hard to put the bear back to his face.
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the rushing states never as tight as on one of the most sense community. best ingles, i'll send send up the keys to progress. be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the rush to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the senior said this was what question, did you say even closer to the
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welcome back to going underground? i'm still here with retired. come on, the chief wants to sergeant dennis ritz before i really interrupted uh, go on to the chief of us. besides you and you were talking about some reports from sources to you that uh, the oil being stolen from the syrian uh, from syria today, is for israel as part of what your book talks about as a capture of u. s. foreign policy by benjamin netanyahu. and then a good buddy and his role. yes. but getting back to the syria that we left off, we can definitely say it,
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as i've mentioned before about opinions assumptions. in fact, i can give you the fact that we're not there or the so called war on terrorism. and so what i had mentioned earlier about the source is telling me we are there to protect your old bills and some of that will lead into is really, i believe it to be true because i believe disorders and we have no other reason to be in syria, so bought it back to your original question. uh, i want you to keep this in mind. the neo cons and is really lobby in regards to the middle east. is a long term strategy. this has been going on since the early 19 ninety's. and another reason i believe were there is because of the fact that as long as the it's rarely lobby, pest control over our government, if you will. they're always going to have that long term strategy of taking over the entire middle east on behalf of israel. but, you know, as you say,
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we're currently a illegally in syria. well, likewise, are their eyes are still on a rad. that is the big kept right there. i ran and, and if you noticed like keywords, is there things about messaging with regards to what's going on and gaza right now . i mean, dropped the drug on you, but i just wanna make sure in regards what's going on in gaza right now when the whole fees are coming in, in support of the cost. and people are just to find that hard mazda is given, is what right now. and it has a lot brittany joint in here. but notice one key thing. you always hear space backed by a rand, as the law, backed by a rant. you're always a time read into that. why is that? because there's no setting the stage of trying to get our support into attacking a ran, which has been a plan in their mind. but that days given that you obviously
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realize, and as i said in your book on the leaves arise, they've just adjust israel. they must the public and have thousands of employees. when you are working there, it has thousands of employees today. do you think it must be more than just the who realizes or detect this capture of u. s. foreign policy? i mean, how many people in the, by the administration where basically is rarely assets not working for the american people that working for the liquid party and telling me well, what i will tell you is that there was not many and there's not many now it's just the ideal that they're putting strategic positions and locations throughout the government in may, it leaves you versus the us government in particular of the kind of god it consists of you do it all right, who is your up? sorry to interrupt with the commodity side you but let's just as it does feel like a conspiracy theory, obviously you're talking about
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a few people there at the top and all these thousands of people unaware that the sometimes sometimes as you said, thousands of us servicemen and women giving up their lives for this as well, and that's going to be under, under span, independent, gone, which lot of people don't understand just majority of career people. it's not associated, it's what we call a political as beads magistrates and come in with their own personal agendas. you have government employees, the career employees. their job is to carry out that particular policy or agenda at the time. now, are there solved as i was exposed to some things that could possibly be unethical or illegal? some do come out and whistle blowers, but just what absolved whistle blowers you know, demonized. and so in most cases in government, what would be the department of state or the pentagon are 2 primary major domestic
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dirty eggs. these. busy those both have been there all their lives and they don't want to put their career, you know, a state, it takes a lot of guts and even me, you know, i'm not all that great. i've told many folks, if you've heard daniel ellsberg, i'm the coward, daniel ellsberg, and what i mean by car. so somebody's adults like that. well, you know, when daniel ellsberg itself, there is one that was about right. and kind of gone saying, hey, i'm talking to kind of god during the vietnam war here. you know, he released documents. why didn't do back. and when you said i waited 20 years, my hope was that some of this will really come out and say, hey, you know, this was a lie and it never happened. and so i've been thinking about this for years in my original go with this. and after 20 years of the rack more, you know, as i said, you bought a saw in my book an entry, it's a book has not been written that you would like to read, then you did want we'd, we'd want to write it. so that's what made me decide, ok, i've got to find a publisher for this because of the fact you're not going to find people to speak
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out because they're really fearful of their career and they're not going to do that in regards to the military. we are, i cannot say it we're we, we are so uh, or my career minded and follow to take a unless we know for a fact they are illegal. so the military stays out of the politics of any particular administration that comes into the office at that particular time. so don't be surprised that of the thousands and thousands of people, in fact, the kind of gone is the largest office building in the world. but it's comprised mainly of career government employees who carry out long as they don't see it as being illegal on the festival. now the, the legal things that may be happening, it's really cap for the majority of the employees of the pentagon for the state department. and so they really don't know. and as i stated earlier, you know,
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we do have an administration coming in the bunch of ministration at that particular time was probably the most corrupt was go right to the next in years was probably one of the most corrupt and most recent ever come in in regards to foreign policy or national security, we just, we don't know, we don't know actually what's happening on to the administration and fans and we will miss that else. but i'd be able to watch our interview with the late that is, but again, is about his courage. on a rumble channel, just on what you were talking about to syria, for instance, because it's still relevant. why would they have yeah, would they surprised that they were gonna lose because russia was gonna intervene to protect syria, really because it has a base and attack if, for instance, and, and for other reasons. yeah. similarly with ukraine, i mean, do these, people don't realize that other countries are going to kick back and us imperialism . you know, the best part of the strategy list. this goes all the way back,
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i think 1998. and you may be familiar with this, and i would like to explain things so we can assume that our audience understands everything was saying, as you alluded to, daniel ellsberg back in the 19 ninety's and paul, what boards and dick cheney and rumsfeld. well, part of this we have something that was a created called the project for the new american century called the phoenix. and they were planning back in and 1998 a role dominance. i did not care the tires. it was you mention about ukraine, their goal was to be to predominate world hunger. we can rush or to challenge china . china does not want more with us. we're the ones that great the atmosphere of yeah. we want to, we can try it out. we want to region russia so that we can be the sole super power after. well, i could do this 10 years ago. i remember having a conversation with ben diploma trevor, the joint you said richard myers. and i stated that one day china and russia was
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going to get, i'll go to get tired of books, they can, we can dominate the world, and then going to come together. and that's what happened in the case of book syria . china i rested, decided no more this, we're not going to have this. and so they decided that they were going to step in, in syria. likewise with china, you know, we, we had a one china policy. i called the parents because of the rights and like were running away from that now set up for a policy wise and the people that we was we were deal with china only what we started changing back where we're going to try to do everything we can to keep taiwan as a democracy, and angelica china would say because they're still there territory is that you can do about it where china and russia north korea local, there's no direct to us, but we want to dominate them. and so these bolts are coming together and saying, hey, no longer. so did we take uh those both the neo cons,
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cuz i called them to the other service. think that what happens now, based on the fact that they could dominate the world, and roger and china were just going to sit back and do nothing. well, they are, they know now and how does this information? i mean, i should say they pulled libya or of destroying africa's bridges for capital country . how do they pull off of this information? uh, a strategy. they smear people, they, uh, they work with people, you know, the big media corporations, all the god, media corporations in the united states and around nato countries. how did they do it from your perspective? seeing it from the inside. it's let me go back and say something that you had asked me earlier, but also many polls and kind of gone in state department and you know, lot more speaking out. but i must tell you that this is the most optimistic i've been in the last 20 years, a more people speaking out and more people learn what's going on in the past,
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how they were able to get away with it was this information, how they'd message, and to be frank with you and i don't know how to take this, you know, in a negative way. but that it was big much, you know, the majority of the american people, they don't concentrate on foreign policy and how to get impact our national security. and how can i do impact us economically. you know, as you probably know, you know, being familiar with on file culture and we allow our country to just give away $3700000000.00 per year. that is no, but it's more than that to a country, a country. our call is really how can we allow that? why would we allow that when we see the market duplicate, explain in 20 years of my life in the military. when we see so many homeless veterans on the streets of the united states of america. as always, the others that are not better as the on the streets of america as homeless. how
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can we do diggers? but what's happening now through social media because you alluded to earlier the main street media, they are bought and paid for by the guards as well. you know, they do messaging in support of those things they want to do. and so the american people and the world the world has seen it. you know, there's a lot of the news media a week and america. we were not seeing those things. only those of us that had the deluxe and the luxury of being inside the pentagon during the bush administration. listen, i know i did not know anything about the neo cons airborne. even though i was in the military, i was trying to follow the orders as far as the lead survey leadership and our commanders. and so until i got into the pentagon and started looking at how things were happening. you know, i, uh, best way to both of my eyes, but i was all alone. i had nobody i could talk to them about and they believe me, you know, they believe every day to the 8 year old. uh,
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they just rarely bobby was saying that, you know what, i'm talking papers in front of our members of congress and administration. people believe that. and so i was alone. the only person i had to talk to larry works, advocate france, you know, over 15 years ago, you know, the only person, you know, jack really talked to now was social media is dominating the news. now, more people are finding out about what has been happening and what's going on now, and that's why i just really love you didn't really a freight. that's why. if i jump service on you, is really lobbies person to get rid of picked on. that will tell you as an old guy, the young people loved when i say this, i have a tick tock net. i'd love to talk because you're getting real time information, especially what's going on in gauze right now. chief plus the size of the threats. thank you. and that's it for the show, the new book, deadly betrayal. the truth about why the united states invaded iraq is i've never met to bring you new episodes every day monday until then keep in touch by the social media, if there's no sense in your country and to
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a channel going on. the run tv on rumbled combs watching, you know, the episodes of going on the grand caesar, the decades of the gaining independence and from good the law form of the ivory coast remained down as a strong influence of his foam and metropolitan pro french president. felix, who said one year, ruled the country for 33 years, ensuring the interest to from the dead, the gun on painting isn't in the trunk. then there's also including his foster larry share, which was numbers who saw him and the more appropriate officer, the death of, of a one year, a new lead to bill. i'll go back the ball came to power reset and i'm ready to
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double completed the i q is your why do you know if we're feeling cross or they're gonna use it isn't good enough for us if you need to. one is the one who runs immediately. dean, good luck. boeing, enemy, a deep political crisis is huge. walk a, the country 2nd largest city, turned into a theater of law. so we bought it from 130 to the other 2 point the rotors on warranties. how did the dramatic events unfold, and how is walk a recovering from? he is a bloody conflict. watch on. see the saw, the see the silver. so the, somebody to the how can it be that the ship to the middle east from
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a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of our munition and military equipments. destroyed low paying the boy a bit of boss milk or even monday elbow in your system and below grade level nominal facility or some of those out of slash we. i'm about the easiest little so one of the easiest on bottom of the sort of wellness that will kind of get used to have gone on the level. why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world? to turn this country into a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally is that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell weapons. yes, we're also known in the world is almost dealers that we must not be ashamed of that the or
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the, [000:00:00;00] the high speed heading the most part of the frontier processing goals is killed 15 ford. and most of the reason, of course we did some of this stuff is largest ever town to tyra operation in the 3 boarder regence of brands because i'm those are on it was on the plains. i'm president. did encourage the yeah, to more house, a king dog's eyes, more than a 100 people are reportedly pilled. and that is what it's like on a school. the idea and claims it has taken measures to minimize so cool. lots of

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