the, the the is addressed to a joint session of congress is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu spent a good portion of a speech attacking americans who had been protesting israel's genocidal campaign in gaza. the majority of law makers in the chamber responded with a standing ovation. the,

i'm not sure it has a welcome back to going underground rule. got a single around the world from the you a from garza to ukraine to china, who creates the obesity falls. narratives pirated by faith joined lists, bullets, politicians, and absurd geo political down the list. if you believe the gaza genocide is excused by october, the 7th that russia are invaded, you craving an unprovoked attack, and the china wants to control all of our minds. you probably thought iraq had w m d, come on chief mazda sergeant dennis fritz was at the heart of us. when that light was being forged, one that would kill wound or displace tens of millions of men, women, and children. iraq was to be just the start along with syria, lebanon, libya, somalia, sit down on the and the ron dennis fritz advise the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general richard myers, and his us intelligent service redacted book that leave a trail is out. now he joins me from gold off in maryland. thank you so much for

coming on. come on to the chief, but sargeant. uh, it's an amazing terrific book despite these black marks all over it. i better just quickly ask you and laurie wilkerson, the former chief of staff at the state department said it was an amazing book before we even read it. what was it like getting all these black marks of your book? i almost tell you, 1st of all, thanks for having me. and i must tell you, i was not surprised. you know, it's almost like who killed gas k. you know, other really space aliens. you know, to be certain things that the pentagon just would not let out. so i wasn't surprised at it all. now i will here in a future date challenge those redactions, but i wanted to get the book out as soon as possible. so i did not challenger the meat late, but i think the american public and the world needs to know what was redact. i mean, the book is called deadly betrayal. the truth about why the us invaded iraq equally

be why the us is attempting a legal regime change in iran, syria, so many other countries because of israel and not because of us naturally secured. well, you're exactly right, but the reason i uh, i'm gonna say how i came up with the title of some 4500 military men and women were killed based on a lie. and that just really bothered me as a member of the armed forces. the united states for over 28 years said that those lies were loss based on a lie. also the 100000 or so more that will be wonderful life. and that even worse, you know, so i'm gonna say a 1000000 iraqis that release killed are displaced and the instructor destroyed like called a deadly betrayal because of that like now, why do i say that the reason why we've been in a rack, as you mentioned most of the countries i read was just a 1st stage of us eventually going into syria. then i ran as you all know,

maybe it was taken out by local nato. but that was a part of the scheme as well. but what the better often going into syria and then later on in a ran which we'll discuss later, was because of the fact we got tied down because it is honestly, as you would probably remember in history you had. so i'm going to both administrations an automobile take walk will be welcomed with open arms. well, that didn't happen. and the insurgency prevented us from actually carrying out the same thing that we tried to do and all right. i mean, there were honorable exceptions to those. um, uh, people who kept quiet, david kelly, the british government scientist who was a source on my bbc program today. the today program in britain, which led to resignations of the director general of the bbc and so on. you knew that they were lies going on when you were there in the top. the star of your book isn't mangled douglas feet. who is he just people are fight. you want to get to

know he is. and you way the 20 is to cool him out. what he hell do was to endanger, kill those 4 and a half 1000 service man and women maybe you help to do that. and the 10s of millions displays to the road. who is this man as well? let me tell you about douglas. by that time douglas spiked was the number 3 individual independent gone. you had rumsfeld, the workforce as deputy and then the deputy volt policy, which the tablet was the position that dropped by to build that. let me tell you my background in my story, how i i came into this but we get to the find because that's how i came into contact with the bike. uh, as i was on active duty and military, of course we all throughout the world was startled by the 911 attacks until the united states. and so like any other country, we will word. i say it was some of one of the bands and we thought that we had to

retaliate against those that had attacked us. and so the military, we were all work. okay, we need to go to afghanistan. but we started here and after we had replaced the taliban, we started here and about deploying to a rack. and that was surprising to many of us in the military. we don't understand what the rac have to do with 911. and i just cannot see myself sending troops off. will ward that i did not believe in. and i remember sending an email to the camera jointed staff at the time, general myers and said, listen, i'm not understanding. i'm getting a lot of concern from the truth and saying, why are we going to our rec, what did they have to do with 911? and the answers i was getting from the kind of god i do. many of both at the pentagon said to, aside as i've had to previously, i, i just didn't, couldn't buy it. and i decided to retire from the military. so that got vocally, speak out against the war. never really knowing why we would go into

a rack at the time. i just had this good feeling. when we started hearing about w in days, i started asking folks, they've been gone. uh, have you seen any sign of saddam haven't w and dates and nobody could tell me? and so i decided to retire and i decided to step out and to disobey, and we're all going to be able to protest work you will. well, i was out of the pentagon in the military for few months and things wasn't going well for me in just a 1000000000 world. and i had a plan to contact. you said rich, we need you to come back to the pentagon. and i had been my life for 28 years and i gave van. but as i will tell, many of folks, you know, i believe in divine intervention and somehow i ended up working in that number 3, spot, undefined. and then our job was at the time because of the fact that the i read war but still across the personal it was going down in history parkway,

the biggest born policy blunder body united states. uh, we were told that we needed to start the classifying most of the pre planning, all right, word documents. and because of my background, i was uh selected uh for that change with the all those documents we felt under douglas by the time i knew little about the fight. but as i walked into the pentagon for 3rd time, there was a lot of just like a task done by in the past. and my peers attempted to kind of go beautiful. it's called a political wouldn't get into the political world. but as i went back to the kind of god, it was all political. we could talk about the open service. was this really 5? well, here's what i always tell folks how i operate. i can give you an assumption. i can give you an opinion and i can give you a buzz back. now, i can't give you a fax, but i've been told by a number of sources that the date was

a spot. now what i can tell you the time that i was in the pentagon and what we call the office that go to the principal policy, which does like ran uh you had a lot of is rarely folks running in and out of the pentagon. uh, at the time, i can also tell you that uh, the most the best, most ready to go to run up to the war. each cabinet or visual uh, had a, an individual who they would talk to in general to keep them posted on what we're doing in regards to planning or the invasion of a rec. and the point person that doug slide was keeping in touch with was at the time the be nothing yahoo was i think at the time of the finance minister, he was not at that particular time, pride management, but that's fine. which i can tell you is a fact none of the page, none of the something was keeping b b at yahoo, info. and what was going on like h i, if you was a spy, but i can tell you he had a lot of direct communication with bb commodity. but besides that,

you might have to explain what far is for an agent registration that would, would it not be? yeah, go unless if someone was doing stuff with another government in that way, certainly be registering somewhere before they swimming around the can as well. this is, do you just have the nerves and you got a nerve? and a lot of us in the foreign policy, national security, a renter here in the united states. any other country, they will probably be criminal. oh, what's going on right now? and in the past and schedule, i can tell you if you look at the history of this uh, john kennedy present, back in the sixty's. i attempted to want that for back to uh, registered down as a ford agent, anybody's working federal on behalf of israel here in our country. and i can tell you it has not worked. uh, you know, the big elephant in the role. and i'm just gonna get right to it right now,

is that uh, well the be our congress or whatever, but just raise it is in office at the time. a lot people like, you know here say this, but our congress is bought and paid for by just really lucky. yeah, in your book you even mention of old people called lisa rice, criticizing your boss to douglas fight for carrying the mail for israel. i mean, that's a national security advisor at the time. she knew it was the address, the care in the mail for the cool part it because it was really good and the nothing. yeah, exactly. yes. yeah. if anyone thinks this book is just history, you say in the book that um, you do, or at least you talk about the legal military presence in syria, under the guys, these guys are fighting terrorism. many americans won't even know that. tell me about this occupation of syria and is that a hangover of of the allies cold? uh, uh, i suppose by is really proxies to uh, the us officials,

uh, 20 years ago. although i'm glad you raised that point because as i mentioned earlier, the 8 the plan was to go into our records. and the reason behind our racket was because of the back under the, the bill, platinum, ministration. we have what we call every game policy change and that was not carried out during the clinton administration. and so when, once the bush administration came in, you know, filled with neil cods, they were going to use as a rationale to go in and, and take out saddam on the so called we didn't change policy. now, syria was going to be next. when i was here with you, whether it be a wreck or syria, their sovereign countries, their sovereign countries. what right do we have 1st of all, to attack rack the next ball what it gives us the right to be in

syria, uninvited, by their government. and so that in itself is illegal. now the reason we are there other, the so called disguise of the war on terrorism is to maintain sunsets of control in syria. if it not, it will not work for us getting tied down in a rag. as i stated earlier, but it certainly handled by the way we would have been serious, but to prevent that as well. rush or came into the, into the rescue a syria to. so in order, so we could expand further into syria. now, i've heard xbox say that we're in syria to protect the all wheel, which is true. and i don't know who that all is intended for, but i am told by sources. and when i say i'm told by sources, you know, that's what i'm giving an opinion because i don't know what to be tracked, but i, so i've been told by folks who i believe that they're there to protect all the bills. or here's me that they're legally,

there's being all sent to israel from the northern part of syria. ok. cheap. uh dear on that cliff. hang out to you because it's a $110.00 is fritz. stuff of you that stuff even more from the author of deadly betrayal, the truth about why the united states evaded iraq after this break the the, the, what happened on october. the 2nd was a deal breaker for it was the slaves revolting against the master. when slaves revolt against billy jimmy masters,

that is not going to be peaceful and it is going to be violent terrorist here and that will take care, right. and there is, there is there, there. and just surrounding the entire area of the party became ready for us. you know, they knew we're going to scatter like ship terrible tragedy and terrible revenge because ok, so i am. i know who the me to come off the the, on the floor especially the play shall be the good. this of being prevented. jocelyn. but it seems to be that we don't want, it needs to be what he wants to do, peoples of the land, to leave in peace and post spanish. is it possible to have peace in this region

ever again? the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with retired. come on, the chief wants to sergeant dennis fritz before i really interrupted uh, come on to the chief of us beside you and tell you, went talking about some reports from sources to you that uh, the oil being stolen from the syrian uh, from syria today is for israel as part of what your book talks about as a capture of u. s. foreign policy by benjamin netanyahu and the liquid body. and israel us, it's yes, but getting back to syria, as we left off, we can definitely say it, as i mentioned before about opinions assumptions. in fact, i can give you the fact that we're not there or the so called war on terrorism. and so when i had mentioned earlier about the source is telling me we are there to

protect your old bills and some of that will lead into is right. i believe it to be true because i believe disorders and we have no other reason to be in syria. so going back to your original question. uh, i want you to keep this in mind, the neo cons and is rarely lobby in regards to the middle east. is a long term strategy. this has been going on since the early 19 ninety's. and another reason i believe were up there is because of the fact that as long as the it's rarely lobby, it has control over our government. if you will. they're always going to have that long term strategy of taking over the entire middle east on behalf of a visual you know, as you say, we're currently a or illegally in syria. well, likewise are their eyes are still on iran. that is the big kept right there. i ran

and, and if you noticed like keywords, is there things about messaging with regards to what's going on in gaza right now. they dropped the drug on you, but i just want to mention it in regards to what's going on in gaza right now. when the whole face a coming in, in support of the palestinian people are the, the find, the mazda is given, is what right now. and it has a lot written a joint in where you haven't noticed. one key thing you always hear, who speaks back by a ran as the law backed by a ran. you always the time i read into that. why is that? but those ears will setting the stage of trying to get our support into attacking a ran, which has been a plan in their mind. but decades. given that you obviously realize, and as i said in your book on the leaves, arise seemed to suggest israel. they must the public and have thousands of employees. when you are working there, it has thousands of employees today. do you think?

it must be more than just the who realizes or detect this capture of u. s. foreign policy? i mean, how many people in the, by the administration where basically is rarely assets not working for the american people that working for the liquid party and telling me well, what i would tell you is that there was not many, there's not many now it's just the ideal that they're putting to change the positions and locations throughout the government in may. it leaves you versus the us government in particular of the kind of god it consists of you do it all right, who is your up? sorry to interrupt with the commodity side. you, but let's just as it does feel like a conspiracy theory, obviously you're talking about a few people there at the top and all these thousands of people unaware that the sometimes sometimes as you said, thousands of us servicemen and women giving up their lives for this as well,

and just want to be on the understand independent gone, which lot of people don't understand just majority of career people. it's not associated, it's what we call a political as beads magistrates and come in with their own personal agendas. you have government employees, the career employees, their job is to carry out that particular policy or agenda at the time now are dissolved as i was exposed to some things that could possibly be unethical or illegal. some do come out as whistle blowers, but guess what? as soon as possible or, you know, demonized. and so in most cases in government, what would be the department of state or the pentagon are 2 primary major that's dirty here, disease. you know, those both have been there all their lives and they don't want to put their career, you know, a state, it takes a lot of guts and even me, you know, i'm not all that great. i've told many folks, if you've heard daniel ellsberg,

i'm the coward, daniel ellsberg. and what i me back, i don't somebody adults like that. well, you know, when daniel ellsberg itself, there is one that was about right. and kind of gone saying, hey, i'm talking to kind of god during the vietnam war here. you know, he released documents. why didn't do back. and when you said i waited 20 years, my hope was that some of this will really come out and say, hey, you know, this was a lie and it never happened. and so i've been thinking about this for years in my original go with this. and after 20 years of the rack more, you know, as i said, you bought a saw in my book an entropy. if the book has not been written, that you would like to read, then you did want we'd, we'd want to write it. so that's what made me decide, okay, i got to find a publisher for this because of the fact you're not going to find people to speak out because they're really fearful of their career and they're not going to do that in regards to the military. we are going to say it, we, we, we are so uh,

a mock career minded and follow to take home unless we know for a fact they are illegal. so the military stays out of the politics of any particular uh, administration that comes into the office at that particular time. so don't be surprised that of the thousands and thousands of people, in fact, the kind of gone is the largest office building in the world. but it's comprised mainly of career government employees and carried out long as they don't see it as being a legal on the festival. now, the, the legal things that may be happening, it's really cap. so the majority of the employees of the pentagon for state department, and so they really don't know. and as i stated earlier, you know, we do have an administration coming in just a bunch of ministration at that particular time. was probably the most corrupt that was gonna go back to the next one years was probably one of the most corrupt, most recent ever come in in regards to foreign policy and national security. we

have, we don't know, we don't know actually what's happening onto the administration in fans and we almost had else. but i'd be able to watch our interview with the late. that is, but again, is about his coverage on a rumble channel, just on what you were talking about to syria, for instance, because it's still relevant. why would they? and would they surprised that they were gonna lose because russia was going to intervene to protect syria, really because it as a base and attack if, for instance, and then for other reasons. yeah, similarly with ukraine, i mean, do these people don't realize that other countries are going to kick back at us imperialism. you know, the best part of the strategy list. this goes all the way back, i think 1998. and you may be familiar with this, and i always like explain things. so we can assume that our audience understands everything was said, as you alluded to, daniel ellsberg back in the 19 ninety's in paul,

what boards and dick cheney and rumsfeld, well, part of this, we have something with a created called the project for the new american century. called the peanut and they were planning back in the 1998 a world dominance. i did not care of their tires in with you mention about ukraine . their goal was to be to predominate world all week in russia to challenge china. china does not want more with us. we're the ones that great the atmosphere of yeah . we want to week in china, we want to region russia, so we can be the sole super power after. well, i could do this 10 years ago. i remember having a conversation with ben diploma chairman of georgie's that richard myers and i stated that one day china and russia was going to get a go to get tired of us back and we can dominate the world. and then going to come together. and that's what happens in the case of up syria, china, i've, uh, rest of decided no more of this. we're not going to have this. and so they decided

that they were going to step in, in syria. likewise with china, you know, we, we had a one china policy. i called the parents because with bites and like were running away from that now set up for a policy wise and the people that we watch when we deal with china only what we started changing back where we're going to try to do everything we can to keep taiwan as a democracy, and in charlotte, china would say, because they're still there territory. you can do about it. we're china and russia, north korea. but no career is no threat to us, but we want to dominate them. and so these bolts are coming together and saying, hey, no longer. so did we take the boat, the neo cons, cuz i called the service. think that what happened now, based on the fact that they could dominate the world, and roger and china were just going to sit back and do nothing. well, they are, they know now. and how does this information?

i mean, i should say they pulled libya, ralph destroying africa's bridges, the capital country. how do they pull off to this information? uh, a strategy. they smear people, they, uh, they work with people, you know, the big media corporations, all the god, media corporations in the united states and around nato countries. how did they do it from your perspective? seeing it from the inside it, let me go back and say something that you had asked me earlier, but also many polls and kind of gone in state department and you know, lot more speaking out. well, i must tell you that this is the most optimistic. i've been in the last 20 years, a more people speaking out and more people learn what's going on in the past, how they were able to get away with it was this information, how they'd message and be frank with you and i don't know how to take this,

you know, in a negative way, but it was very much, you know, the majority of the american people, they don't concentrate on foreign policy and how to get impact our national security. and how can you do in fact, us economically. you know, as you probably know, you know, being familiar with on file culture and we allow our country to just give away $3700000000.00 per year. best know, but it's more than that to a country, a country. our call is really how can we allow that? why will we allow that when we see the market duplicate spending 20 years of my life in the military? when we see so many homeless veterans on the streets of united states of america as always, the others that are not veterans that are on the streets of america as homeless. how can we is through biggest, what's happening now through social media, because you alluded to earlier, the main street media there are bought and paid for by the guards as well. you know,

they do messaging in support of those things they want to do. and so the american people and the world, the world has seen it, you know, there's a lot of the news media, a week and america. we were not seeing those things. only those of us that had the deluxe and the luxury of being inside the pentagon during the bush administration. listen, i know i did not know anything about the neo cons airborne. even though i was in the military, i was trying to follow the orders as far as the lead survey and leadership and our commanders. and so until i got into the pentagon and started looking at how things were happening. you know, i, uh, best way to both of my eyes, but i was all alone. i had nobody i could talk to nobody. they believe me. you know, they believed every day to the atl. uh, they just rarely bobby was saying that with, you know, what, i'm talking papers in front of our members of congress and administration. people believe that. and so i was alone. the only person i had to talk to larry works,

advocate france, you know, in 15 years ago, you know, the only person, you know, jack really talked to now was social media. there's dominating the news. now, more people are finding out about what has been happening and what's going on now, and that's why i just really love you didn't really a freight. that's why. if i jump service on you, is really lobbies person to get rid of picked on. that will tell you as an old guy jumped the beloved when i say this, i have a tick tock net i'd love to talk because you're getting real time information, especially what's going on in gauze right now. chief class assignment that is read this. thank you. and that's it for the show, the new book, deadly betrayal. the truth about why the united states invaded iraq is i've never met to bring you new episodes every day monday until then. keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sense in your country and have to a channel going up, you're going to be on rumbled combs watching, you know, the episodes of going on the grand caesar, the

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