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a crime. sentencing and quotes act 2022 for the criminal offense of public nuisance. which is punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment. it had been almost unheard of since the 1950s for members of the public to be imprisoned for a peaceful protest in the u. k. we might do bulletins o police commission that has a boost threatened to pursue people who are not even in the u. k. think of cable gloria does not make you cite from the little you kind of guilty of offenses of, of incitement, of starting the racial hatred. and we'll come off to those individuals just as we will physically confront on the straits. the commentators from either end of the political spectrum who likes to accusations, as i said, the police because we stand in the middle, we'll try to independently under the law with that federal favor. and if you've got crazy views over there, you don't like it. and if you don't try give you some of the, you don't like it,
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we will continue to do that. can you imagine the full riff? i don't know russia or china suggested it was gunning for. so for war is in the u. k. u k continues to spin the tailored it society is free. unlike of course, here in russia where people aren't even allowed to think for themselves just terrible government overreach. you're seeing it now in england where people getting arrested for tweets. yeah. when you know people talking about the soviet, russia like how bad of russia is in terms of cracking down on thought police and the tracking down on bad tweets and things like that. i think the statistics are i think, ingle and in the lab. i think there's something like 4000 people have been arrested in england for thought crimes where they've said things online that people find to be a hateful thing or a problem attic thing. and i think it's only 200 in russia. the employees away,
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this tooling by the u. k for online trolls isn't actually new in 2016 more than 3000 people were detained and questions about things that they had posted on social media while around hall. so those investigations were dropped. that still means cases were pursued against around 1600 people. let's just compare that to russia in the same year with 54 people with jail. i hate speech, the numbers speak for themselves yet. russia is no for terry instinct. what think poll is in full force? i beg to differ, but you know, repeat to lie often enough and it becomes the truth. well the thing is i'm like still in pillar level on call, so we'll be back up with them the
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the hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered on peter lavelle. and his address to a joint session of congress is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we spent a good portion of the speech attacking americans who has been protesting israel's genocidal campaign in gaza. the majority of law makers in the chamber responded with a standing ovation. the crossing netanyahu's address, the congress. i'm joined by my guess,
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lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst. also in new york. we have stanley cohen, he is a human rights lawyer and in bay we process the bund grillo. he is a news desk editor for the cradle. alright. gentleman, prospect rolls in effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate line. well, let me go to you 1st. since you are in the fishbowl officially for this program on a weekly basis here, how do you account for the violence and the protesting outside of the venue of congress? and the majority of the law makers in the chamber itself, greeting listening to netanyahu, gave him a standing ovation. kind of a interesting split screen, don't you think as well interesting, a couple of points here. first, as far as mileage goes, i don't you know, peter, i'm not one to be. i'm not a conspiracy theorist, but i'm a conspiracy analyst. and whenever i see somebody do things which i think would necessarily hurt a particular cause. the 1st part of me, the suspicious part of me always is, are these necessarily are these are wrong,
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provide a door or so i don't really know and, and, and, and we, we can talk about that. that's number one. what i said was the most important, which i don't understand was, can anybody please tell me why mister netanyahu received more security than president trump did? when, when president trump every single day, i know for a fact she cant even keep track of the amount of threats where we had a secret service director who said, well that was a slandered roof and you know, we might fall. and in, in watching some of the coverage from, uh, yesterday, from people like, uh, the others who were doing live streaming. i, i heard somebody say they had n y p d there. they look in somebody, wait a minute, they've got new york. i'm in new york and i cross the street and i risk my life. so why is it and why be here? i and so be so i,
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i don't understand this ignored and that this dissimilarity of protection, i'm not saying to be no protection. but can you please, can anybody tell me why president trump gets nothing? well line on the line or i can add to center talking about security. i can add to that. why was there the stand down on january 6th because they were, they certainly didn't have a dearth of of police officers. uh, they could have been deployed, but we are, we uh, go astray here, stanley. what is this? what does this say about american foreign policy when it comes to israel? because the way netanyahu spoke is, is, if the foreign policy is the same, that both countries have the same foreign policy. and both countries are the same country. he spoke as if he was in american stanley a little listen, i find the power, lots of, of the media and politicians decrying. and so for violence outside. and since really a demonstration that much more being brought to us and raised by the most violent country in the world right now, being brought to us by
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a country that has been supporting the genocide by people that are supporting united states and it's march you for the genocide against palestinians. so that's the glaring, double stand. the notion that the, the, the, the emperor has no clothes is once again on full display. this is now the 4th time that that's in yahoo, who's come to congress dispute with his lies propaganda, is hate his violence in his manipulation. now, yes, you read numerous members of congress standing cheering for him. if they thought it would garner votes for their position on their side, they would share for 16 hours showing up the eating grass. and so it was once again a stage best where the zionists and 8 back in the pro is really lobby, largely republicans. and let's, i'm not going with the democrats. well, there's the fact that you don't go to a speech by a war monger doesn't forgive you for the fact that you continued to fun, the death and destruction in palestine. so there's,
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there's the double standard throughout yesterday. and now today, the notion of the vine with justin violets every day against palestinians, every day funded by billions of us dollars. the notion that he received the chair from people and congress will yes, there warmongers themselves. yep. so i think we need to be careful to back away from this double standard. it was once again, a freak show. once again, nothing you i was showing in, spewing is 8, and his anger and his violence and his distortion for political purposes for his crowd back home. and for trumps. crowded united states here. now. well, i'm glad you mentioned that, asked about let's go to you and be rude to me. the standing ovations. it was like circus seals standing every time, you know, they were waiting on every word coming out of his mouth. but nothing. yeah. who can't get a standing ovation from any group of people in this real right now, there's another, you know, oddity to this whole story. he's intensely disliked in israel, and he gets a, a bear hug in the united states. well, indicate you know, the by,
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by sometimes he's got to over 50 standing of patients truly a circus show like that not one that has been seen before was i think would be the only competition would be stolen in the 19 thirty's. keep going. indeed indeed, you know, is just uh, absolutely, uh, ridiculous display. and on top of these, you know, i guess he's viewing just the most ridiculous lives, things that i have already been to disprove. and you know, they, how mazda rape story is the babies in the all, and they hated babies. all of these things that we knew all for a fact that these point that there is no evidence to prove that he's right. the investigator. so i'm not been able to prove that any of these things happened. he goes on based on the, on congress in good standing ovations for saying these things. and you have exactly as you're saying, this is a man who is only a saving. uh, the only thing that of saving his hold them power is these war private cuz this is a man that even before it's over 7, most a large portion of the brand new society was looking to get rid of him over the
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whole traditional over whole situation. and now since 7 october, he has failed to recover, you know, more than a handful of captives from, from guys have to reach. he continues to the standing, the way of a cease fire deal to sabotage it continues to uh, to, to just perpetrate. the most famous war crimes, and this is the version that it gets just a standing ovation, i think, but more than 50 standing ovation is really i think this is a, this is just this. but just on display how out of reality. i thought the us political class leaves in, right because of the us as, as we have said already, the fact that some members of congress eating but maybe the fact that, or, you know, pamela heart is enjoy writing. we're in there. doesn't mean that they don't support it then. yeah. right. they just mean that they were in there for that speech. they're going to meet with him today. they're gonna send more bumps, bumps. i've been reaching. these are all essentially every 4 days. shipments of 2500 pound bonds, that i keep being dropped on homes on house is on fans by the guy. so right now,
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82 percent of the slaves under forced it back to asian orders. there is no safe sonia pop. medium. people are just moving from left to right from north to south. yep. being the and asked about it didn't even mentioning the a ceasefire. we have to point out to our viewers that the only time hostages had been released when there was a ceasefire. so we do have a president, let me go back to lionel in new york on line all um and it's in yeah. who called protesters, useful idiots. but i think some the people that were in attendance in that chamber there, the useful idiots as well. it did, this is the, these are the various trump isms that come on that that, that you must know this by the way, forgive me cuz i'm, i'm in just a real dolly dog. uh uh i, i do a more bergman movie. i've got the president who is of some kind of weird a i and i'm a tronic. i've got a woman who can age every 3 minutes,
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who very well could be the next president. i know i have a congress that on to jump in with the a country, by the way, who would things nothing? when's the lensky and, and on, and no show up, and they're stopping everything. and if you ask people, what are you going? who is in charge here, but you mentioned peter that the trump is simply this, that if you stand up for the, for the right, probably want to freeze it. you are a do of home us, your energy submitted, your and designers your as, and they say this and you would not be leave. if you read the, the news here. there almost is like an auto like a complete like when you sometimes you type something and it will complete. if you put mt but just submit it. and you submitted as, as, as though anybody who was against either genocide, war crimes massacres, whatever you want to call it, is making a statement about jody is um yeah,
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we have not good. we cannot get past this. and we have this comb with toes media that themselves don't say, wait a minute, let's at least get the phrase right without the actually let me throw that to span we assembly. you know, it's been not a good 9 months now. does this lower being and being, being called an anti semite, this like taking carry the same kind of punch because i'm really tired already gotta tell i've i've, i've got to tell you what's going on in the middle east. them with us money dollars is absolutely your price the better and you have all yeah. right. and that says yes, yes. well if i, if i may, it is. if i may, you've got one person that's in yahoo, who wants to murder arabs, and you've got in the united states, you've got insight, some lights, namely by and wants to help him to murder arabs or he's meeting with trump who wants to own average. so what is the insights down because the one area where a pack has been remarkably and atl successful is,
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is convincing people that the semites are, you are being jews at the semites or people from france. are people from one, there are people from brooklyn, or people from germany, but not the original indigenous people that have not left their homelands since day number one. so this distortion of anti semitism is the one area above all else besides method young coming and talking about is really is being victims. once again, especially as really jews where they've been most successful this this, this, this the stage craft, which is again the 50 chairs yesterday. how many i didn't watch it as many standing ovations as you got. this was part of this. sure. real stage graph, which ultimately comes down to one thing, this pernicious deadly malignant relationship between the united states and israel . and i'm one of the few people that does not see the united states as being lock stock and barrel by israel. but digital being a dutiful, surrogate for the united states to carry out his policies of genocide b on the ground, reading the bank, the sanctions in the region. so this, this,
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this whole double speak is just bizarre. yeah. for yeah, i mean, family essentially saying i will admit, there's likely you just said i didn't watch the speech. i read the speech because i knew we were going to talk about in this program. but i just couldn't stomach watching the lives that he spewed on one after another. even his own military disagrees with him. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. a netanyahu's address to congress state without the of the, the what is this? think of the continent of boxes. oh, shall we interact with the rest of the world? we're going to relate to the wind in terms of donations on,
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in terms of tray. africa must define what she wants political africa might define a soft top. i'll click on the define ourselves critically. the cause of your guys, no choice, but to move forward forward. she will welcome back to across huck. we're all things are considered. i'm peter was about to remind you we're discussing netanyahu's address to congress, the . okay, let's go back to asked about it and be rude. one of the things i found remarkable reading the speech is the how american foreign policy. again, this is the israeli prime minister. how american port foreign policy should move
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forward, which obviously for in the interest of the united states would be backwards. but that's another issue here. he mentioned something called the abraham alliance, which would basically be a nato like alliance. i don't know who would run the lines. the united states runs nato. but i think in this case it would be, the israelis would be running this. and essentially it is, would be in a lines directed against a rand. again, i mean, who is running the show here, who's running american foreign policy in the middle east? and we line was already pointed out. we have a present in the united states that you know, we have to check on. and every once in a while to see if he's still with us, we have a, a vice president's been anointed. um a sheet uh is avoiding this topic, it least for now. i mean, you know, but it's, benjamin netanyahu is deciding which, which direction to move forward. it's really quite remarkable and extremely dangerous. go ahead. it's quite remarkable indeed. you know, yesterday it really felt like got a king coming home. right. and all of these loyal subjects just uh,
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tripping over each other to pay it goes to pay my spare respect. right a this, this paula abraham lyons idea its, uh, its most ridiculous. first of all right, uh, the, what, what is the, is going to be a middle these nato led by israel with home, with a mean and their army of indian, my friends with the saudi arabia who has already been kicked out in the asked by gaming with jordan, who cannot, you know, move a finger without uh, the us go ahead with egypt is procedures ridiculous. it is truly upstart and i think, you know, this whole idea, but mister jackson tried to present yesterday, right about it. so i'm actually surprised that he didn't take any additional days. there's just show us how body it on ease and how he down is behind everything behind it. honestly kind of brought this you're on is behind the i see i am behind the the eyes. yeah. please, yeah, it's the drivers behind on. absolutely. every thing well as the u. s. about, don't forget us or don't forget that there, there is a, a theory that it ran was behind the attempted assassination of donald trump as well
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. keep going. yeah. is it, i'm, is behind everything, you know, i honestly, as i said they, they, they ultimately evolve in the world. but, you know, here's what's interesting to me about these need of these cards out of keep that they keep bringing up. the sign is theaters a when they say, you know, you don't responding down his generals, i brought theirs, etc, etc. you're doing is you're completing you down with a position. so just like you're saying, you don't. and the people who are opposed to genocide around the same spice you say that's supposed to be a good thing is, is uh the stuff being a genocide opposing them, asking about population. a good thing. uh, you know, in this case, what is it like what, what, what does the bank get here? right? he's like a 5 year old argument. everything i'm every one i don't like to get seen on everything and everyone. i don't like it from us. you know, it's interesting line or a good one of the lines of the prime minister spoke our enemies. are your enemies, can you explain that to me? i mean, well, so the united states should go to war with any country or group that is real,
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doesn't like, i mean, the american people sign up for that. well, it's just a version of the enemies of my enemies, my friend, and what about well, of what our enemies be, israel's enemies does it work the other way around? i've got to say, so i figured i'm going to bring this to the most ridiculous level. whatever mister netanyahu speaks, i think somebody tells him either have a line or have a problem when he had that the fuse of the, of the, you know, the road runner bom asked me, you know, with a red line. remember that that catches motivate to what he did, his uh we're not going to call them chucky. uh then yahoo! but when he did a lot about to gaze for her mind as whatever it gave for god's as i being a chicken for k, etc. that ridiculous throwaway actually captivated more people, even though nobody could understand what it was that they were laughing about. what it was that the connection maybe perhaps i don't know if it's called pink wash. i
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have no idea. when i heard this, i thought that's going to be the line. sure enough. i went straight to social media one after another. that was it. so i don't know if it's because of his really is it knowing how to target a particular medium or theme or trump, or always that silly do we do? we miss? is this all it takes to divert the attention of what's really going on? apparently. so i answered my own question. yes, you did. and stanley, i mean, but that's a very, it's interesting that line or mention that because i wrote that down too. but i wasn't exactly sure how, how i would use it. but the fact of the matter is, genocide is a put into the context of humor. is that was the attempt. a, look, the present real victim is the proverbial promoter of victimization. does nothing? yeah. is real, has arrived for 76 years now. on being the proverbial victim wallet is
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attacked. 11 on multiple occasions was slaughtered or just play store held captive or hostage to 1000000 palestinians is the proverbial victim. it's interesting to see the proverbial victim always slaughtering using fosters bomb using cluster weapons, displacing, destroying, and leveling. and they come to the united states, which is the proverbial liberator by victimizing everyone else. so this is the perfect marriage, especially keep in mind the political pattern tone of the united states. right now you've got nothing yahoo doing everything you can do to stay out of jail. west 3 pending indictments against him. you've got biden and tyrus, who up supported up arming the genocide every day of the week and refused to impose the arms export control act. you've got frank who wants to run to win, to avoid going to federal prison. so meanwhile, you've got all these victimizers making all these deals with each other, selling wraps in the middle of the sign i to avoid prison, to promote themselves to benefit themselves, and meanwhile,
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their children displacing and torturing millions of people. so the notion that nothing yahoo would come to it's like coming to see, to speak to his own family. yeah. because everyone in the room has an agenda because everyone in the room is concerned about one thing and one thing alone maintaining their personal out. and it doesn't matter how many people died. it doesn't matter how many children are slaughtered. it doesn't matter how many people are brenda displaced. it doesn't matter how many complicit deals the abraham affords. is what they're really talking about. it takes, at the end of the day, this is the privilege of the west doing anything and everything here tend to maintain its privilege at the expense and the cost of the human rights, the dignity, the liberty principle and justice for millions of people of color for most of them van, for instance, on the ground in their own home later, i couldn't agree more about it going back to you and be rude. i surmise, part of this trip. it's always p r when it comes to b. b netanyahu. but it, it, i have the, the deep worried sense that he went there on
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a mission to actually expand the war into the country where you are right now. there seems to be almost nothing that will stop that at this point here is real is failed in gaza. it's failed to get it's captives back. so this state to keep the war going, you have to expand your thoughts while the unit on october 2nd, these are all the software as such as huge defeats right. either they haven't, they haven't been able a single basis then to regain that. that sense of the parents that they once have now, and they're north of these really is completely lost to them. has all that has implemented that i've bought for some image rated territory for the very 1st time. this has started these really economy, these us for them, you know, in many, many ways and these have a smell it and make them feel up and that they haven't before and yet it is 100 percent. sure. what you are saying that the guy who is in washington to get permission right to get the backing of the us to expand the war on live on on. and
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now apparently he did get the permission because just as we're talking right now, there are some reports coming out that say that i will be showing washington have given to go ahead, jeanette and jacqueline, to expand. okay. and the issue is here, let me go, let me go to line on here. um a line on rapidly running out of time. um, what is next tier? i mean, how does this play into the campaign or, or is the genocide in uh, in gaza. and the, the violin, so yeah, in the west bank is that just going to be a push decide we won't, we'll be watching it here. but because the campaign will take precedent of the things that the democrats are worried more about that anything is minnesota. in fact, you always talk about the 2 state solution of the joke as michigan in minnesota, there is going to be a debate coming up, which we think between president trump and, and by the way, don't be surprised because she is going to under the 25th amendment, she will, she will assume the position of president cumberland harris will be the acting
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president. she will, she will be an incumbent. and during the course of a debate, if president trump were to ask for a flat out, yes or no, do you believe that israel's committed genocide just right there? just answer the question. you corey, the icpc or i c. j. watch what she will do. she, she has, she equipment case on everything. like what is wrong with line over the line on, sorry, but i don't think that that will even be brought up in the debate because they're both on the same side. but it will cost me time to let you in the family go ahead, jump in. obviously, let me, let me intervene with the bottom line is it said i'm not disclosing. is that a good faith? a good cause? iris needs young women and men, irish needs, people of color and the big issue for that through those millions of voters out there is the janet. so i said, months ago that buying was done with millions of young women and men did the streets and protest. i said, months ago that with that body politic of saying,
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know that he was done so you can talk about people can talk about showing use age or speech or, or, or forgetting what he's talking about. it was those young women and men communities of color in the streets, those young women and men in those communities of color in the streets, or what parish needs to with that 234 percent of the vote. they are not going to stay on the streets. will see us coming. you're going to have millions of young women and men and students and communities of color, backing university, shutting them down, occupying buildings. so there's no sure the genocide is going to play quote unquote, the political card in this particular case. but i don't think we're going to have a situation where arabs is going to be able to jump up and down and say, for, for zayn is a for is real. i don't think it's going to happen. i think to the contrary, this is someone who is a political monster, a political beast, like all us political leaders. this is someone who's counting votes. this is someone who understands very clearly that if he's got any chance of reading the other sinus name from, if she's got any chance at all,
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she's going to have to make some agreement with the young women and men in the streets. it may mean imposition. article and position of the arms export control act. and again, i'm not saying she's doing it, but she's prime or principal or is exhibiting some sort of humanity what she's doing it because she counts votes. so ultimately the end of the day is the young women in the streets is the solidarity was really the use of apo palace by and 11 on that i think are going to be a bit what not have a principal or purpose, what out of elect or politics okay, well i'm a necessity. may i come to the for after all here, but this thing is this whole issue of the genocide isn't going to go away. least not on this program here. that's all the time we have gentlemen. i want to think my guess in new york and in bay road, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are d c a next time. remember crossed up rules the
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the, what is part of the, the employee would post good. isn't the defense you of us and that in the word, or is it something deeper, more complex might be present there?
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let's stop without pieces. let's go part of or the what kind of negotiations can we talk about with people who indiscriminately attack civilians and public infrastructure or attempt to threaten nuclear power facilities, flattery. i've heard this as you play the rush, of course, the united bidding of civilians and hiding the games and the possibility of negotiations. so and the confidence in terms of how to have condemned the cleaning road to this new bill is a really good reason to change a little west city. a new role enough is and also the quote initially is the final phase of an inquiry to last. most.

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