the world does it just because it shows you fractured images, presented as fast can you see through their illusion going underground? can the hello and welcome to prospect bullhorn. john peter labelle. here we discussed some real news. the attempted assassination of donald trump tells us all we need to know about the extreme tensions that make up american politics. sadly, america as a long and deadly history of political violence, the country's political culture is simply toxic. to discuss these issues and more, i'm drawing by my guess your to send me while we in budapest, he's a pod counselor at the goggle, which be found on youtube and locals. at americas we have martin j. he's an award

winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman cross that goals and the fact that means he can jump any time you want . and i always appreciate it. right, let's start out with george in budapest as usual. george, we called this one. we had been saying for a very long time because of the, um, the perceived, the extremes of american politics, that something like an attempted fascination could happen. well, it is already happened. so what does this tell you in a, how does this change the dynamics if at all, go ahead george. so when it says of the election, i think the dynamics. so we've, we simply don't know, does he have how that's going to affect the outcome? but this was entirely predictable because of the move the other years and years of, of on the side. oh, harold, hysterical coverage of trump. i mean, so, i mean, the median contributed to this uh,

absolutely ridiculous hysteria. but of course politicians. and chiefly president, by the who has repeatedly is declared that this doesn't exist central matter, but the united states that, you know, trump poses, it makes essential for it to be nice if he has been saying this since 2019. and that's remember even before that the trunk was a q is essentially by much of the media. and again, much of the democratic party, all having been an agent of the kremlin. nonetheless, it was a traitor. and it goes, when you go somebody afraid so that when you say that that person is literally add all hip left. well, what happens is the, the, the amazing thing that it's taken this long for something like this to happen. and, and, but what is really disgusting is all these politicians, nancy below c, chuck schumer, i, can you geoffrey by and him. so that was a will we wish trump very speedy recovery, political violence has no place. and now this goes, well,

you're golden. i don't feel well if he is out of hipaa, why would you be wishing him with a speedy recovery? so obviously you were lying and you would just been basically pulling the american people by golding of ablest oh, this was exactly what you were hoping. what happened the song, you know, young a young man up active as of as asked and was of the 20 years old. when say i go to save the world from idle hipaa. so you know, this, we're getting quite a disgusting pit box is now going on. you know, martin ya, you've already seen the picture, which i wrote that send it to you. it's i tonic, it certainly is iconic. it's probably been seen by over a 1000000000 people already around the world. and it's like into like the flag on you will, jima, i mean, or some of the civil rights moves mean images. we have a subsidy other assassinations. but the way i read that, that picture is that the way his supporters, i mean, they feel his literal pain. they feel who did the persecution,

this ridiculous law fair against them. there's probably a, a 1000000 good reasons to dislike donald trump. but the, this persecution of him in fury yates people and people that maybe not have a very strong political attitude. they literally feel this man's pain. i think so. yeah, and i think of that and they will be beyond the political camp and they will be a number of the swing swing voters are undecided versus from the other side as well . who now i've seen the, which one, they've seen the court cases and they don't believe that they don't believe what they're saying. they know that there's a place glitch ended up behind all of some judges. absolutely. right. you know, the history of those we went off against from i think it was this, the back in p. m, who just treated just a few minutes ago. he said something along the lines of, you know, it was an image for single day. so when you put the guy down so much, that a member of the public was going to do the job and stuff up some ok and then take the short, i'm paraphrasing, didn't say exactly like that, but you get to point to not, not you have to ask yourself um, the security of this,

but these events, i mean, you know, i don't want to be a kid is a, be a conspiracy theorist. but no one has to one the with the, with the which on the i mentioned before with the, with the amount of the cases that have been brought against from the up to wonder whether the deep state also perhaps arranges for the security. these events to be so poor because it's only a question of time sooner or later before it comes to like america where some crack poll brings along a $100.00 rifle and, and takes a few shots of a this go. i mean, i think it was an image for that. it, we should be so shocked by it, especially when you look at the video footage, which came online just minutes late to of 3 security late to use f b. i ladies with the very started shut classes who were just running around the heads of chickens. i mean, it was literally pissy for watching these 3 ladies. one couldn't hosts or a weapon properly. another ones was more concerned about putting a sunglasses incorrectly to look cool. in the behind them was the smoke close to

that and you know, taking something away and it was just a few letters to be honest. so you could also sort of questions. but i think the broad question, the bigger question is, when we haven't lived in these thomas before, that from phenomena is entirely new ground is i just don't unprecedented. i don't think the bigger question is, is this a small taste of things companies as a typically ice book? you know we, we all been bracing us of wondering when we're not so confident we're, we're pretty confident that trump was gonna win the will. the country will america, i'm tentacles of all the power within it. allow him to win. you know, you're off on november, the 5th. you know, we're going to see thousands of people take to the streets with the $100.00 rifles or worse. well, but i think martin, i think it's pretty fair to say, i'll throw it to george right now. whatever the outcome half the country is not going to agree with it. that's where we are. george. no, that's. that's exactly right. that'd be the other half of the country will not agree with this. and even even, even if he is alexis as possible,

he will. he be inaugurated george. will it be another piece like that? that's right. and i mean, we'd already know. and this, of course, he's adding to the hysteria that if the democrats do capture the house, they will not certified the result. this is something that they've already said they will know sorted by the result as though it's entirely dependent on the republicans taking the house. we're trying to be installed as president, and, you know, even if he is still the president, we're going to get full years of this and really lives with the, you know, there's a lot of training now in recent years of assassination of, i mean russell. it was only weeks ago we were talking about this estimation of time, phone robust fits so um, you know, the, we had the, uh, the assassination attempts at the, the, the congressional bowl game that was in 2017. we had them fascination of the time from them, the supreme court justices kind of on the so they were in all of these events are

good. the direct result of the if you scenario that is being went up by the say, the democrats and there of media allies. and so therefore, if the truck does become present, that isn't going to stop. so, so like this is this, the, they, they've determined that this is all my business existence loses existence related dates are repeating this. so how america kind of survive. donald trump, remember that a horrible purse of mr. victor newland. uh victor, victoria, mr. victoria newland, robert kagan. wrote in an all pad in the washington post and we talked about this. it was about 5 to 6 months ago. um, which was pretty much cooling for this explanation of uh, trump. you just said this man is such a central thread. we can't stop him. this is like, this is julia sean's a. you know, this is the only way, the way we go, we're going to deal with him is the way they deal with julius caesar. so this is his, that this is how what the, how the political establishment is thinking. and indeed as mafia said,

there are serious reasons or as questions about the security elapses there. i mean, yes, inexplicable, absolutely no real questions? well, i, it's, it's really quite remarkable. martin is that we, this is a, i'm glad you brought up the flow of our prime minister. i mean, this is what we see all across the west and world. everything is x a central. if everything is x essential than anything and everything is permitted because it's, you know, it's to be or not to be. this is a, you know, it, you know, it's obviously very reminiscent of a civil war and in the united states. but this is a civil war that's being played out across the west as well. yeah. but it is like stuff. so and, um, unfortunately, what i witnessed in, in my career and the last 30 years of john and it says how western countries have become more and more the place was systems to become simplified binary, they become binary and they become, you know, very much a m,

a symbols like black and white and choices for people. and i think this has been accelerated by the advent of social media and also martin, don't you think? what do we live thinking about the elections in france and in the u. k. and then the european parliament just, you can win a lot of votes, but you don't get to live a seed. so i mean, it's becoming more and more obvious that the system is rig system is right. i mean that the to the west of democracy, less than democracy on it's models, plural um on. okay. so not functioning anymore. you know, so you're getting the votes to the bottom, the books. but people know that the vote is very much a token part of the whole thing. you know, that needs to be something else to hold politicians accountable. and um, so you know, uh, especially some attempts that public valleys in america, it's certainly something of a surprise us assassination attempts to western leaders like just to back in pm. perhaps this is going to be something that we're going to see more regulate grandmother in the press because, you know, as i say, i don't,

i think the confidence is just waiting. now, you know, we were looking for an alternative level and the present one, you know, just just don't seem to what we're looking at nature for example, which just celebrate his birthday, you know, some pundits of all use, well, the basis of may so 75 years ago it was a particular one. i mean, the idea that the soviets had this ministry spread against us, i'm going to wipe us out the same argument, same x, essentially some, you know, st. absolute, unqualified, unmerited uninstalled. the absolute explanations which were supposed to swallow with the well, i mean, in, in never. and given a democratic testing or, you know, george is really interesting is the way when we look at these elections with your participation legitimize is, is the outcome, but not your decision. you see what i'm saying is that the, you know, it's the, we have a, we have a vibrant but is that when democracy because people vote but it doesn't. that doesn't deal with the outcome of the vote. george the, that's right. i mean, i, and that's why there is this good comes to manic. a tim to get everyone to vote,

to tell you what was really, really, what did you vote your most about? you know, that's your duty as a citizen, to vote. and then, and i think was a little why what, what difference the going to make and why we're getting lead is that we don't want to, you know, to attend. that is that we don't want any effect this level. the problem with this or the western democratic model, is that it's just based on the long prentice, which is we have to keep out the other guy. the other guy is an existing show threat that that's all so we don't, we don't actually and promise you anything. we don't have a positive program. we don't have, we have no idea how to improve your life. but that person, that person is literally hitler. and we have to do whatever we can in order to keep them on the bar. and this is what we're doing. this is what is the, whether it's the united states, whether it's crossed. oh, it is in germany, and i get very soon. it will be the case in the u. k. where you know, the, the, the, the, it literally, hipaa will be natural garage or we have to keep them out. otherwise democracy will come to an end. yeah. every when, when everything becomes a, it's

a stenciled and everything is legitimate today, everything is on the table except for in recognition of the democratic process. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. i'm going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real need to stay with our to the russian states. never as one of the most sense community best in most all sense and up the in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russia, d. s r t spoke neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv

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some real news. okay, let's go back to george in budapest here. i mean what this is sending a very dangerous signal, because 1st of all, we and looking at the drums opponents, they are, they're, they're crocodile tears. means it's pretty hard to believe. i mean, we went through this whole debate fiasco, and we all were told that joe biden is just the jim dandy and sharp is attack and all of that. and then we see what happened and then they do a flip. and now there's pretending that they never demonized donald trump. there are plenty of reasons to dislike donald trump. i don't get anything wrong. but you know, to turn around now and say don't, we don't want anything a, any, we don't have any ill feelings we do. we don't have any hope for a disaster do to come across him, but that's not true. it's all likes. very good. exactly. it was all lies. and it

was done precisely in order to whip up this is there any you call, just as i say? well, you know, this isn't really what we meant. we, we're in the business of civil discourse. i think obama issues, when we need, we need civil discourse. they're all we don't and there's no, no, no wrong. so violence. how does this civil disclose? and we will remember that to then defend that solemn events with the red lights. but the, by the, i call it the muso, any moment, you know, silly name or anything which it was a, you know, and the, during the stripe was not just one chrome from child support, which is, and then being on enrollment soon. the beginning of the biden's term, he was talking about this, the existential thread prose by whole assault. so, you know, characters that we, we could go the, all the, you know, the, the ad cfax is the white supremacists, the white nationalist of the mag i'll follow is that isn't how they've been playing this political game. really, you know, for years and years, and of course,

something like this is going to happen. a now does go down the road, is what we wish him a speedy recovery this. what's the mileage you decide is out all hibler and he's going to in democracy. they, he's agenda is to in democracy. now you wish you must media regarding why would you wish them a speedy recovery? he's only going to end democracy according to martin the, the, the way the rhetoric has been played out. and it's almost getting close to 10 years and that when you think about it, okay, almost 10 years is that there is no middle ground. there is no compromise. everything is a pure a t test. okay? you can't run a democratic society like that for very long it's, it's me, tom and i think from the, the situation that we're not in america. well, we have a choice of these 22 liters who are both quite controversial and quite polemic for different reasons. i think the system is quite limited in the system. it may will

be the, this particular election will spock a completely new process and the new process of dialogue from people right across this all types of society to ask, you know, can we do something about the system? can we create a system which is more on more liberal, more put in a certain a certain which it makes us a certain more flexibility. in addition, for example, you know, we, we've seen the emergence of kids to guest on who has basically taken control of the country with the lowest election to announce ever. and so people are starting to ask questions, you know, is it time for breast, some type of proportional representation of voting system? i think i'm probably the america is unlike person. you don't have that protest foot candidates are in the middle. if you don't have a policy called the liberals, you know, it's all the one thing or the other. i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is really now more than ever. we're beginning to see how the system is sustaining people. and you're quite right to say that, you know,

it's very hard to imagine how coming into power with at least half of the country. now obviously it's time to the world come in. and so my point, my point is somebody has to change, and i think this is probably the breaking point. yeah, i mean it's because george mean elections. it, they're becoming less meaningful. i mean, you just, as you pointed out, you know, what, you know, thanks everybody has to vote. you know, we're a voter turnout. you know, this legitimize the election, but it doesn't happen that way. i mean, it's still, it's for bowden to say in western media, but i mean, there are tens of millions of americans that don't believe the 2020 outcome. they believe the trump one in 2016. the one in 2020. and he's good. one went in 2020 thoughts except for they won't let him. they can just so you can define that yourself. go ahead george. yes, that's, that's. that's right. and that's exactly how people will see it. and really, you know, this, this is estimation of the time. comes authorized the series of events, remember,

you know, they tried to take him off the ballot, but it's a color, unheard of. yeah. do that, that think somebody off the ballot where you don't have a right to vote for this person. imagine that, i mean the hosp, the country regard, sam has the legitimate prison and then he said, well, no, no we, we, we made a decision if you don't have the right to vote. so i've never done the, you know, an attorney general in new york state decide that i'm just going to bankruptcy. i'm just going to take away the law of his money. and i'm going to come up with some convoluted ridiculous legal theory that has never been tried. and i know i'm going to get a sympathetic judge. i was just going to take all his money away and they, and they tried to do it. it's only because they, the, the court jumped in and said, well, you know, i'll give it, take it easy with, with, with, with this say this money grab. and that because you know, we have, uh, you know, was the, uh, the in school indictments. i mean, that's just unheard of, you know, use, it's been a president. there's never been invited once and now we have full of time for an

election. so this is the last 90 process in which you got these political 5 is the absolutely determined to prevent the coming supply of somebody will off the country regards as their, legitimately the well, you know, all the way to the business of the funded mentally unstable situation. i mean, the, you know, as you may have, or that has to be some kind of a political consensus whereby, you know, you don't believe is accept outcomes and respectfully leader of the organization. now what, what we had did during these last 2 and, you know, 24 hours easily off the he bunker said english, the political, the stablish of pretend that's the system. yeah, we all wish him well, a prez. i still to impreza with these families of the i to the because sign at the moment is strictly to solve this thing. but ultimately, we know we're going to go back with a few weeks. we're going to go back to the uh,

the, the truck, hysteria. m a, you know, martin and so i'm glad the judge brought up these frivolous lothair suits because the, in the liberals, they prefer riggins jerry is. but i think the rest of us would prefer the jury of the electorate let they let the electorate be the jury. now you've already explained to us the, the impediments in the u. k. i mean, i'm astounded by maybe outcomes of the french and, and u. k. a selection, i mean, just because you're with a lot of roads doesn't mean you're getting much power, a seal the income when the case of some bill it's what's, what's really interesting for me is that this breaks down this sort of from the crumbling of this foundation of what we believe since so long with the foundations of american democratic model. you know what people really believed to that they almost had a religious reverence to it in the forty's and fifty's and now it's crumbling. and it's comforting on both sides. you know, we talked about trump in this estimation. somebody seems to me to invite him to come, don't need to buy some kid to to sheep bikes and welcome to where's the near?

nobody's name here. well, nobody's doing. it seems to be doing it a pretty good self assessment ational suicide on himself. you know, we were saying panic now in the whole system and the democrats are beginning to panic in a different way. you go now i think 20 congressmen have written to, to, to but i'm saying look, you know, you know, we love you, but give it up. i think also hollywood has been waiting and as well. people at george clearly read it was very diamond piece of the new york times. i mean, really touching base, some nice things spoke on behalf of a lot of hollywood products. you know, well, you know, it probably probably only i really do not have the chair so, but people like shepherds go any other say a hollywood is so corrupt and it, it money, you know, money corrupts everything. so money coming from hollywood into the political process is just the script. you know, you don't judge what's really, what's really amazing to me. trump, it will be a dictator. he will shut down democracy. you know,

refresh my memory. he was president from the just there's okay, i didn't shut down the media didn't shut down the trade unions. he didn't, they didn't go after hillary clinton. they made his own deal. jay went after him. meanwhile, this is just say, a narrative may add a folk song. it's not as if we don't know who the guy is. is that, that's the amazing thing. because, you know, we've, if you look back on the trump is basically the galvan and as a kind of a moderate centrist or a republican. i mean romney, derek. i'm at raleigh. i mean, yeah, you know, he brought in the tax scouts every republican president, boy says, tax gods. i mean, that's the signature policy of, of republican administrations. and it does have as far on all of say, well, they've promised all kinds of things. he never deliver it. so you know, the, the whole idea always going to withdraw from need. so he's going to withdrawal from

syria. he's going to withdraw him from afghanistan and he didn't do any of those things. and they get over. he gets that even by the, you know, we're going to go over say, you know, i, i know founded by the no one here is the final by and please the withdrawal from afghanistan and trumped. isn't that sad? yeah, i'm going to do that. but he, you know, ultimately he didn't go ahead with it. and so if you look back on those, he is just to take away his personality. he was a pretty, a centrist republic, a. so the hysteria has absolutely no basis whatever the whole this, like we use a made out of whole low, but the idea that he was pro russia, but he, favorite fulton is just so stupid. so with the all take this, well, the large was russia gauges back. ok let's you know, you know, mind it's really interesting. in looking at this campaign, you're obviously there's a microscope scope on joe biden because of his mental acuity issues here. but, you know, you have to give credit where credit's due, trust has been running. and amazingly moderate to campaign was very,

is very careful. he's, he's, he, he is, he's, he's, is got himself under control. and this is what, and now this, the campaign is completely turned upside down. again, everyone's going to be focusing on. it was your rhetoric, it was your narrative, etc, etc, etc. and not on the policy is go ahead. i don't think i knew why. i think i knew why trump is that seems to be more so, but um, even even some of the lumps and at times when you would think he was right in the page, the most sensational i think is because he's got the media expert center and they've looked at the types i need to evaluate it where he's gone wrong in the past and you know he's more, he's but he's between more media professional now and the way that you can see the way that is. so evidence was it was, what is the base with the bottom half is that it to he then the s plus told him you don't need to weigh and you don't need to throw your arms around and say, oh, these stupid insults. just let the guy bury himself, which is what he did,

you know? so i think uh there is, there was a new trump emerging, which is the one who listens to his advice as well. and it's so clear the blind doesn't listen to any of his advisors. setting up media, you know, and i think that's really going to make a difference. and it may will mean, made a critical difference when it comes to the, to the function, you know, but some, i, i think we'll have to wait and see. and you know, i think also um buttons got enough problems and the next few weeks. so, um, the democrats are telling me that there was a critical cut off point somewhere in the middle of august, where there will be no option any more to go with vitamin as well. but definitely with the, with the republican convention coming up. but there's gotta be plenty for all of us to chew on here gentlemen, that as all the time we have, i want to thank my guessing, budapest and verification. of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are dc and next time remember, prospect most. the

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