a extreme of american politics that something like an attempted fascination could happen. well, it is already happened. so what does this tell you in a how does this change the dynamics if at all, go ahead george what it says of the election. i think the dynamics, so we've, we simply don't know, does he have how that is going to affect the outcome? so, but this was entirely predictable because of the loop. the other years and years of, of the under side. oh, harold, hysterical coverage of trump. that means that means the median contributed to this up some of the ridiculously spirit, but of course politicians. and chiefly president, by the who has repeatedly, is declared that this as an existing shall map of the united states that you know, trump poses that makes essential for it to the united states. he has been saying this since 2019. and that's remember even before that the trunk was

a q is essentially by much of the media. and again, much of the, the democratic party, all having been an agents all the kremlin. in other words, it was a traitor. and it goes, when you go somebody afraid so that when you say that that person is literally add all hip left. well, what happens is the, the, the amazing thing that it's taken this long. so something like this to happen and, and, but what is really disgusting is all these politicians, nancy below is the chuck schumer. i can you geoffrey by and so that was a, will we wish trump very speedy recovery. political violence has no place. and now this goes, well, you're golden, i don't feel well if he is out of it. but why would you be wishing him with a speedy recovery? so obviously you were lying and you would just been basically pulling the american people by golding of ablest oh, this was exactly what you were hoping. what happened, the son, you know young a young man up active as of as asked and was of the 20 years old. when say i go to

save the world from idle hipaa, so you know this, we did it quite a disgusting pit box is now going on. you know, mark me a, you know, you've already seen the picture, which i wrote that send it to you. it's icon make. it certainly is iconic. it's probably been seen by over a 1000000000 people already around the world. and it's like into like the flag on you will, jima, i mean, or some of the civil rights moves mean images. we have assess any other assassinations, but the way i read that, that picture is that the way his supporters, i mean, they feel his literal pain. they feel who did the persecution, this ridiculous law fair against them. there's probably a, a 1000000 good reasons to dislike donald trump, but the, this persecution of him in fury yates people and people that maybe not have a very strong political attitude. they literally feel this man's pain.

i think so. yeah, and i think of that and they will be beyond the political camp and they will be a number of the swing swing voters are undecided versus from the other side as well . who now i've seen the, which one, they've seen the court cases and they don't believe that the believe what they're saying. they know that there's fiscal attended up behind all of that. some george's, absolutely right. go to the history of, there's been a wit, top against from i think it was this the fucking pm who just treated just a few minutes ago. he said something along the lines of, you know, it was an image for single day. so when you put the guy down so much, that the member of the public was going to do the job and stuff ups a mocking and take the short, i'm paraphrasing didn't say exactly like that, but you get the point to know. i know you have to ask yourself um the security of this, but these are friends. i mean, you know, i don't want to be a kid is a, be a conspiracy theorist. but no one has to one the with the, with the which on the i mentioned before with the, with the amount of the cases that have been brought against from the up to wonder whether the deep state also perhaps arranges the security of these events to be so

poor because it's only a question of time sooner or later before it comes to like america with some crack poll brings along a $100.00 rifle and, and takes a few shots of a this guy. i mean, i think it was an image for that. it, we should be so shocked by it, especially when you look at the video footage, which came online just minutes late to of 3 security late to use f b. i ladies with the very started shut classes who were just running around the heads of chickens. i mean, it was literally pissy for watching these 3 ladies. one couldn't hosts or a weapon and properly another ones was more concerned about putting a sunglasses on correctly to look cool. in the behind them was the smoke closer then, you know, taking something away and it was just a few letters to be honest. so you could also sort of questions. but i think the broad question, the bigger question is we haven't lives in these thomas before that some phenomena is entirely new ground as i saw unprecedented. and i think the bigger question is, is this a small taste of things, companies that have typically ice book and we were open, bracing us,

of wondering when we're not so confident where we're pretty confident that trump was going to win the will, the country will america i'm tentacles of all the power within it. allow him to win . you know, you're off on november, the 5th. you know, we're going to see thousands of people take to the streets with a $100.00 rifles or was well, but i think martin, i think it's pretty fair to say, i'll throw it to george right now. whatever the outcome half the country is not going to agree with it. that's where we are. george. no, that's. that's exactly right. that'd be the other half of the country will not agree with that. and even, even if he is alexis as possible, he will, he be inaugurated george. will it be another piece like that? that's right. and i mean, we'd already know. and this, of course is adding to the hysteria that if the democrats do capture the house, they will not satisfy the result. this is something that they've already said they will not certify the result as though it's entirely dependent on the republicans taking the house. we're trying to be installed as president, and, you know,

even if he is still the president, we're going to get full years of this and really lives with the, you know, there's a lot of training now in recent years of assassination of, i mean russell. it was only weeks ago we were talking about this estimation of time, phone robot fits so. um, you know, the, we had the, uh, the assassination attempts up the, the, the congressional bowl game that was in 2017. we had them fascination of the time from them the supreme court justice cobbler. so in all of these events are good. the direct result of the if you scenario that is being uh, went up by that besides the democrats and their of media allies. and so therefore, if the truck does become present, that isn't going to stop. so, so like this is this, they the, they, they've determined that this is all my business existence loses existence related

dates or repeating this. so how america kind of survive. donald trump, remember that a horrible purse of mr. victor newland. uh victor, victoria, mr. victoria newland robert kagan wrote in an all pad in the washington post. and we talked about this. it was about 5 to 6 months ago, which was pretty much cooling for this explanation. of the trump, they just said this man is such a exist central thread. we can't stop him. this is like, this is, julia sees, you know, this is the only way the way it would go. we're going to deal with him is the way they dealt with june and caesar. so this is, he doesn't affect the business how, what the, how the political establishment is thinking. and indeed as mafia said, there are serious reasons or as questions about the security elapses. there, i mean, yes, inexplicable, absolutely no real questions? well it's, it's really quite remarkable. martin is a, this is a, i'm glad you brought up the flow of our prime minister. mean, this is what we see all across the western world. everything is x

a central. if everything is x essential than anything and everything is permitted because it's, you know, it's to be or not to be. this is a, you know, it, you know, it's obviously very reminiscent of a civil war and in the united states. but this is a civil war that's being played out across the west as well. yeah, but it is like stuff. so, and unfortunately what i witnessed in, in my career in the last 30 years of john and it says how western countries have become more and more the piece with systems become simplified binary. they become binary. and they become, you know, very much a simplified black and whites and choices for people. and i think that has been accelerated by the advent of social media and also martin, don't you think what i'm doing, lyft? thinking about the elections in france and then the u. k and then the european parliament just you can win a lot of votes, but you don't get to live a seed. so i mean,

it's becoming more and more obvious that the system is rig system is right. i mean, the west of democracy, the less than democracy and it's models, plural. i'm not working, it's not functioning anymore. you know, so you're getting the votes to the bottom, the books, the people know that the vote is very much a token. part of the whole thing, you know, that, that needs to be something else to hold politicians accountable. and, um, so you know, uh, especially some attempts that public valleys in america, it's certainly something that surprises us. assassination attempts in western leaders like just a back in pm. perhaps this is going to be something that we're going to see more render a grandmother in the press. because, you know, as i say, i think the confidence is just waiting. now, you know, we were looking for an alternative model of the present one, you know, just just don't seem to what we looked at nature for example, which just celebrate his birthday. you know, some pundits of lock use. well, the basis of may so 75 years ago, it was a personal name on, i mean,

the idea that the soviets had this ministry threat against us, i'm going to wipe us out the same argument, same, essentially some going to say absolute unqualified on viruses uninstall the absolute explanations which were supposed to smaller, whether the well, i mean in never. and given a democratic testing or, you know, george is really interesting is the way when we look at these elections, but your participation legitimize is the outcome, but not your decision. you see what i'm saying is that the, no, it's the we have a, we have a vibrant but when democracy because people vote but it doesn't. that doesn't deal with the outcome of the vote. george know that that's right. i mean that, and that's why there is this gunston manny attempt to get everyone to vote to tell you. oh, really, really voted your vote. you're not supposed to know this, your duty as a citizen, to vote. and then, and i think was a little why what, what difference the going to make and why we're getting lead is that we don't want to, you know, to attend. that is, that we don't want, i mean, if it was a little of the problem with this or the west and democratic model is that it's

just based on a long, prentice, which is, we have to keep out the other guy. the other guy is an existing show threat that that's all so we don't, we don't, i can't promise you anything. we don't have a positive program. we don't, we don't, we have no idea how to improve your life. but that person, that person is literally hitler, and we have to do whatever we can in order to keep them out of us. and this is what we're doing. this is what is it, whether it's united states, whether it's crossed. oh, it is in germany and i get very soon, it will be the case in the u. k. where you know, the, the, the, the, it, the, the, literally, hipaa will be natural garage or we have to keep them out. otherwise democracy will come to an end. yeah. every, when, when everything becomes it's essential then everything is legitimate. today, everything is on the table except for recognition of the democratic process. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. i'm going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real need to stay with r t the

the, the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills,

and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as broad? can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome magic cross that boulevards on peter lavelle. blanche were discussing some real news. okay, let's go back to george in budapest here. i mean what this is sending a very dangerous signal, because 1st of all, we're looking at the drums opponents. they are, they're, they're crocodile tears. means it's pretty hard to believe. i mean, we went through this whole debate fiasco, and we all were told that he knew joe biden is just the jim dandy, you know, sharp is attack and all of that. and then we see what happened and then they do a flip. and now there's pretending that they never demonized donald trump. there

are plenty of reasons to dislike donald. trump don't get me wrong, but you know, to turn around now and say don't, we don't want anything a, any, we don't have any ill feelings. we don't, we don't have any hope for a disaster do to come across him, but that's what true. it's all likes. very good. it exactly, it was all lies. and it was done precisely in order to whip up. this is very, i mean, you call just as i say, well, you know, this isn't really what we meant. we, we're in the business of civil discourse. i think obama issues, when we need, we need symbol, disclose, they're all we don't and there's no, no, no wrong. so violence. how is this civil, this goes a will remember that? and then defend that solemn events with the red lights. but the, by the, i call it the mussolini moment. you know, silly name. oh, anything which it was saying that you know, and again the strength was not just one chrome from child support which is and then being on enrollment soon. the beginning of

a biden's term he was talking about this, the existential thread. peruse by all sorts of, you know, characters that we, we could go the, all the, you know, the, the ad cfax is the white supremacists, the white national, that of the mag, i'll follow as that is now they've been playing this political game. really, you know, for years and years, and of course, something like this is going to happen a now does go down the road where we wish him a speedy recovery this. what's the mileage you decide is out all hibler and he's going to in democracy they, his agenda is do in democracy. now you wish you must be there we go. why would you wish him a speedy recovery? he's only going to end democracy according to you know, martin the, the, the way the rhetoric is been played out and it's almost getting close to 10 years. and that when you think about it, okay, almost 10 years is that there is no middle ground. there is no compromise.

everything is a pure a t test. okay. you can't run a democratic society like that for very long it's, it's me, tom and i think the, the situation that we're not in america. well, we have a choice of these 22 liters, who are both quite controversial, and quite polemic for different reasons. i think the system is quite limited in the system. it may will be that this particular election will spark, are completely new process complete new process of dialogue from people right across this all types of society to ask you to, can we do something about the system? can we create a system which is more on more liberal, i would put in a certain a certain which, which set a certain more flexibility. in addition, for example, you know, we, we've seen the emergence of kids to guest alma who has basically taken control of the country with the lowest election to announce ever so people are starting to ask questions. you know, is it time is the person to have

a proportional representation of voting system? i think i'm probably the america is on the line person. you don't have that protest . foot accountants are in the middle of, you don't have a policy called the liberals. you know, it's all the one thing or the other. i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is really now more than ever will begin to see how this system is sustaining people. and you are quite right to say that, you know, it's very hard too much of a comp coming into power with at least half of the country. now obviously it's time into the world come in. and so my point, my point is somebody has to change, and i think this is probably the breaking point. yeah, i mean it's because george mean elections. they're becoming less meaningful. i mean, you, just, as you pointed out, you know, what, you know, things everybody has to vote. you know, we're about to turn out, you know, this legitimize the election, but it doesn't happen that way. i mean, it's still, it's for bowden to say in western media, but i mean, there are tens of millions of americans that don't believe the 2020 outcome. they

believe the trump one in 2016. the one in 2020. and he's good. one went in 2020 thoughts except for they won't let him they can do for you. can you find that yourself? go ahead. george. yes, that's, that's. that's right. and that's exactly how people will see it. and really, you know, this, this is estimation of the time comes authorized the series of events. remember, you know, they tried to take him off the ballot, but it's a color unheard of. do that, that think somebody off the ballot where you don't have a right to vote for this person. imagine that, i mean the hosp, the country regard, same as the legitimate prison. and then you said, well, no, no we, we, we made a decision. you know, the right to vote, so i've never known as you know, an attorney general in new york state decide that i'm just going to bankruptcy. i'm just going to take away the will of his money. and i'm going to come up with some convoluted ridiculous legal theory that has never been tried. and i know i'm going

to get a sympathetic judge. i was just going to take all his money away and they, and they tried to do it. it's only because they left, the court jumped in and said, well, you know, i'll give it, take it easy with, with, with, with this say this money grab and that because you know, we have, uh, you know, was the, uh, the in school indictments. i mean, it's just unheard of, you know, years it's been a president, there's never been invited once and now we have full of time for an election. so this is the last 90 process in which you got these political 5 is the absolutely determined to prevent the coming to plow of somebody will off the country regards as their, legitimately the well, you know, all the way to the business of in fundamentally unstable situation. i mean, the have, or that has to be some kind of a political consensus whereby, you know, you don't believe is accept outcomes and respectfully leader of the organization.

now what, what we had did during these last 2 and, you know, 24 hours easily off the he bulk or say image the political to establish it pretends that's the system. yeah, we all wish him well, a prez. i still go to impreza with these families over the phone to the secure site at the moment is strictly to solve this thing. but ultimately, we know we're going to go back with a few weeks. we're going to go back to the uh, the, the truck, hysteria, m i n a martin. and so i'm glad the george brought up these frivolous lothair suits because the, in the liberals, they prefer riggins jerry's. but i think the rest of us would prefer the jury of the electorate let they let the electorate be the jury. now you've already explained to us the, the impediments in the u. k. i mean, i'm astounded by maybe outcomes of the french and u. k. a selection, i mean, just because you're with a lot of votes, doesn't mean you did much power, a seal the think come when the case of trump is what's, what's really interesting for me is that this breaks down this sort of from the

crumbling of this foundation to what we believe since so long with the foundations of american democratic model. you know what people really believes and that they almost had a religious reverence to it in the forty's and fifty's and now it's crumbling. and it's comforting on both sides. you know, we talk about trump in his estimated time. it seems to me to invite him to come, don't need to buy some kid to, to sleep bite some global company. where's the near? nobody's name here now. nobody's doing, it seems to be doing it a pretty goods self assessment ational suicide on himself. you know, we were saying panic now in the whole system and the democrats are beginning to panic in a different way. you go now i think 20 congressmen have written to, to, to but i'm saying look, you know, you know, we love you, but give it up. i think also hollywood has been waiting and as well. people at george clearly read it was very diamond piece of the new york times. i mean, really touching base and listing is spoken, but also a lot of hollywood products. you know, well, you know, i probably probably,

i really do the careful but keep like shepherds go in the other say a hollywood is so corrupt and it, it money, you know, money corrupts everything. so money coming from hollywood into the political process is just the script. you know, you don't judge what's really, what's really amazing to me. trump, it will be a dictator. he will shut down democracy. you know, refresh my memory. he was president of the dispute. it was okay, i didn't shut down the media didn't shut down the trade unions. he didn't, he didn't go after hillary clinton. it made his own deal. jay went after him. i mean, what did this is just say a narrative may add a folk song. it's not as if we don't know who the guy is, is that that's the amazing thing. because, you know, we've, if you look back on the trump, is it basically the galvan and as a kind of a moderate centrist or a republican? i mean romney?

good government, raleigh. i mean, yeah, you know, he brought in the tax schedule. every republican president, boy, those tax gods. i mean, that's the signature policy of, of republican administrations. and it does have as far on all of say, well, they've promised all kinds of things. he never deliver it. so you know, the, the whole idea always going to withdraw from need. so he's going to withdrawal from syria. he's going to withdraw him from afghanistan and he didn't do any of those things. and they get over. he gets that even by the, you know, you know, the over say, you know, i, i know founded by the no one here is the final by and please the withdrawal from afghanistan and trumped. isn't it sad? yeah, i'm going to do that. but he, you know, all the, with the, he didn't go ahead with it. and so if you look back on those, he is just to take away his personality. he was a pretty, a centrist republican. so the hysteria has absolutely no basis whatever. and the whole this like what you said made out of whole blo, be the idea that he was pro russia. but he fav brewton is just so stupid. so with

the all take this, well the large was russia gauges back. ok, let's you know, you know, mind it's really interesting. in looking at this campaign, you're obviously there's a microscope scope on joe biden because of his mental acuity issues here. but, you know, you have to give credit where credit's due, trump has been running, and amazingly moderate to campaign was very, is very careful. he's, he's, he, he is, i think, is, is got himself under control. and this is what, and now this, the campaign is completely turned upside down. again, everyone's going to be focusing on a, was your rhetoric. it was your narrative, etc, etc, etc. and not on the policy is go ahead. i don't think i knew why. i think i knew why trump is that seems to be more so, but um, even even some of the lumps and at times when you would think he was rushed to bates and be more sensational. i think it's because he's got the media expos center

and they've looked at the types of things evaluated where he's gone wrong in the past. and you know he's more, he's but he's between more media professional now. and the way that you can see the way that is, so evidence was it was what is the base with the bite of it to p, the, the s plus told him you don't need to weigh. and you don't need to throw your arms around and say, oh, these stupid insults. just let the guy bury himself, which is what he did, you know? so i think uh there is, there was a new trump emerging, which is one who listens to his advice as well. and it's so clear the blind doesn't listen to any of his advisors setting up media, you know, and i think that's really going to make a difference. i mean, it may will mean made a critical difference when it comes to the, to the function and get a but some i, i think we'll have to wait and see. and, you know, i think also um, but it's got enough problems. and the next few weeks, so um, the democrats are telling me that there was a critical cut off point somewhere in the middle of august where there will be no option any more to go with vitamin as well. but definitely with the,

with the republican convention coming up. but there's gotta be plenty for all of us to chew on here gentlemen. that as all the time we have, i want to thank my guest in budapest and in medication. of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here, our dc and next time remember, prospect rules. the, the russian states never is as tight as one of the most sense community best. in most all sense set up the same assistance must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

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