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the best antidote of speech you don't degree. ready is not suppression, but coming up with better speech, better ideas. the american people are being actively deceived by the united states government. and this deception is being perpetrated and encouraged by a, a compliant mainstream media. and it's only through the actions of independent journalists, alternative media, people such as myself, that we, we can challenge this. and so literally what's happening right now is the api i, the department of justice is seeking to suppress the challenge to the ongoing deceptions carried out by the united states government about what's happening in ukraine, about russia. and the danger of this is that if we don't get to grips with reality, if we don't seek to try and improve relations with russia, we are on a slippery slope that heads in one direction in one direction only. and that's nuclear war. well that is a route for the south, like excuse me, come down for choosing alternate today and everyday news. we have to see soon have
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a great weekend, the the hello and welcome to cross that bull horns on peter lavelle here we just got some real news. the attempted assassination of donald trump tells us all we need to know about the extreme intentions that make up american politics. sadly, america has a long and deadly history of political violence. the country's political culture is simply toxic to discuss these issues and more. i'm drawing by my guess your to send me while we in budapest, he's a pod counselor at the goggle, which be found on youtube and locals. at americas,
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we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator or a gentleman cross that girls and the fact that means you can jump any time you want . and i always appreciated. right, let's start out with george in budapest as usual. george, we called this one. we had been saying for a very long time because of the, um, the perceived um, extremes of american politics that something like an attempted fascination could happen. well, it is already happened. so what does this tell you in a, how does this change the dynamics if at all, go ahead george. so when it says of the election, i think the dynamics, so we simply don't know, does he have how that is going to affect the outcome? so, but this was entirely predictable because of the move the other years and years of, of an upside. oh, harold, hysterical coverage of trump. i mean, so, i mean, the median contributed to this episode of the ridiculous hysteria,
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but of course politicians, and chiefly president, by the who is repeatedly, is declared that this doesn't exist central matter. but the united states that, you know, trump poses alexis central forensics guy says he has been saying this since 2019. and that's remember even before, but the trunk was a q is essentially by much of the media. and again, much of the democratic party, all having been an agents all the kremlin. nonetheless, it was a traitor. and it goes when you go to somebody afraid so that when you say that that person is literally add all hip left. well, what happens is the, the, the amazing thing that it's taken this long for something like this to happen. and, and, but what is really disgusting, is all these politicians mancy below sage up to me. uh, i can you, jeffrey, by and him. so that was a will we wish trump very speedy recovery, political violence has no place. and now this goes, well,
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you're golden. i don't feel well if he is out of it. but why would you be wishing him speedy recovery? so obviously you were lying and you were just basically pulling the american people by golding of ablest oh, this was exactly what you were hoping. what happened, the son, you know, young a young man up active as of as asked and was of the 20 years old. when say i go to save the world from idle hipaa. so you know this, we did it quite a discussing. the box is now going on. you know, martin? yeah, you know, you've already seen the picture, which i wrote that send it to you. it's i tonic, it certainly is iconic. it's probably been seen by over a 1000000000 people already around the world. and it's like into like the flag on you will, jima, i mean, or some of the civil rights moves mean images, we have a subsidy other assassinations. but the way i read that, that picture is that the way his supporters, i mean, they feel his literal pain. they feel who did the persecution,
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this ridiculous law fair against them. there's probably a, a 1000000 good reasons to dislike donald trump. but the, this persecution of him in fury yates people and people that maybe not have a very strong political attitude. they literally feel this man's pain. i think so. yeah, and i think that may will be beyond the political camp and they will be a number of the swing swing voters are undecided versus from the other side as well . who now i've seen the, which one, they've seen the court cases and they don't believe that they believe what they're saying. they know that there was significant ended up behind all of that. so george's, absolutely right. because i stimulus be wicked off against from i think it was this the fucking p m who just sweets in just a few minutes ago. he said something along the lines of, you know, it was an image for single day. so when you put the guy down so much, that a member of the public was going to do the job and stuff up some ok and then take the short, i'm paraphrasing, didn't say exactly like that, but you get to point to not, not you have to ask yourself um, the security of this,
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but these events, i mean, you know, i don't want to be a kid is a, be a conspiracy theorist. but no one has the one the with the with the which on the i mentioned before with the, with the amount of the cases that have been brought against from the off to wonder whether the deep state also perhaps arranges for the security of these events to be so poor because it's only a question of time sooner or later before it comes to like america, it was some crack po brings along a $100.00 rifle and, and takes a few shots of a this guy. i mean, i think it was an image for that. it, we should be so shocked by it, especially when you look at the video footage, which came online just minutes late to of 3 security late to use f b. i ladies with the very started shut dock losses who were just running around the heads of chickens. i mean, it was literally pissy for watching these 3 ladies, one coming host or weapon properly. another ones was more concerned about 3 of sunglasses incorrectly to look cool. in the behind them was the smart close to them
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and, you know, taking something away and it was just a few letters to be honest. so you're going to also sort of questions. but i think the broad question, the bigger question is we have lives in these thomas before that from phenomena is entirely new grounds. i just, i'm president of, i think the bigger question is, is this a small taste of things companies and stuff typically ice book, you know, we were open, bracing us of wondering when we're not so confident we're, we're pretty confident that trump was going to win the will the country will america and i'm tentacles of old pal within it allow him to win. you know, you're off on november, the 5th. you know, we're going to see thousands of people take to the streets with the home to the rifles or worse. well, i think martin, i think it's pretty fair to say, i'll throw it to george right now. whatever the outcome half the country is not going to is agree with it. that's where we are. george. no, that's. that's exactly right. that'd be the other half of the country will not agree with that. and even, even, even if he is alexis as possible,
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he will. he be inaugurated george. will it be another piece like that? that's right. and i mean, we'd already know this because he's adding to the hysteria that if the democrats do come to the house, they will not certified the result. this is something that they've already said they will not certify the result is that it's entirely dependent on the republicans taking the house. we're trying to be installed as president. and, you know, even if he is the president, we're going to get full years of this. and really lives with the, you know, there's a lot of training now in recent years of assassinations. i mean, russell, it was only weeks ago we were talking about this estimation of time, phone robust fits. so, um, you know, the, we had the, uh, the assassination attempts at the leave, the congressional bowl game that was in 2017. we had them fascination of the time from them, the supreme court justices kind of on a. so they were using all of these events are good,
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the direct result of the if you scenario that is being a, went up by the i have to say the democrats and their of media allies. and so therefore, if the truck does become present, that isn't going to stop. so, so like this is basically the they, they've determined the business on business existence loses existence really deep, deep. so repeating this. so how america kind of survive. donald trump, remember that a horrible purse of mr. victor newland. uh victor. victoria missed the victoria newland rubbing pagan roads and all pad and the washington post. and we talked about this. it was about 5 to 6 months ago, which was pretty much cooling for these explanation. of the trump they just said, whose mind is such a exist central thread. we can't stop them. this is like, this is, julia sees that, you know, this is the only way the way we get. we're going to deal with them is the way they build the junior senior. so this is here, this is how what the, how the political establishment is thinking. and indeed as mafia said,
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there are serious reasons or as questions about the security elapses there. i mean, yes, inexplicable, absolutely. yeah. but it really questions? well it, it's, it's really quite remarkable. martin is a, this is a, i'm glad you brought up the flow of our prime minister. mean, this is what we see all across the western world. everything is x a central, if everything is x essential than anything and everything is permitted because it's, you know, it's to be or not to be. this is a, you know, it, you know, it's obviously very reminiscent of a civil war and in the united states. but this is a civil war that's being played out across the west as well. yeah. but it is like stuff. so and, um, unfortunately, what i witnessed in, in my career and the last of the use of john and it says how western countries have become more and more the piece with systems become simplified binary. they become binary. and they become, you know, very much,
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a simplified black and white choices for people. and i think this has been accelerated by the advent of social media. well, i mean also martin, don't you think what do in live thinking about the elections in france and then the u. k. and then the european parliament just you can win a lot of votes, but you don't get too many seeds. so, i mean, it's becoming more and more obvious that the system is rig system is right. i mean that the to the west of democracy, less than democracy on it's models, plural. i'm looking to not functioning anymore. you know, so you're getting the votes to the bottom, the books, but people know that the vote is very much a token part of the whole thing. you know, that needs to be something else to hold politicians accountable. and um, so you know, uh, especially some attempts that public valleys in america, it's certainly something of a surprise us assassination attempts to western leaders like just to back in pm. perhaps this is going to be something that we're going to see more render a grandmother in the press because, you know, as i say, i don't,
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i think the confidence is just waiting. now, you know, we were looking for an alternative level of the present one. you know, just just don't seem to what we're looking at nature for example, which just celebrate his birthday, you know, some pundits of all use. well, the basis of may, so 75 years ago was a particular one. i mean, the idea that the soviets have this ministry threat against us, i'm going to wipe us out the same argument, same x, essentially some, you know, same absolute, unqualified on viruses. uninstalled, the absolute explanations which were supposed to swallow with the well, i mean, in never. and given a democratic testing or, you know, george is really interesting is the way when we look at these elections, but your participation legitimize is the outcome, but not your decision. you see what i'm saying is that the, no, it's the we have a, we have a vibrant but when democracy because people vote but it doesn't. that doesn't deal with the outcome of the vote. george know that that's right. i mean that, and that's why there is this because it comes to many attempts to get everyone to
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vote to tell you what was really, really booked. did you vote your most about, you know, this, your duty as a citizen to vote and then, and i think was a little why what, what difference the going to make and why we're getting lead is that we don't want to, you know, to attend. that is, that we don't want any effect this level. the problem with this, or the western democratic model, is that it's just based on one of printers, which is we have to keep out the other guy. the other guy is an existing show threat that that's all so we don't, we don't actually and promise you anything. we don't have a positive program. we don't have, we have no idea how to improve your life, but not for us. and that person is literally hitler, and we have to do whatever we can in order to keep them out of this is what we're doing. this is what is the, whether it's the united states, whether it's trust. oh, it is in germany and i get very soon, it will be the case in the u. k. where, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, literally hipaa will be natural garage or we have to keep them out. otherwise democracy will come to an end. yeah. every when, when everything becomes a, it's
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a stenciled and everything is legitimate any. everything is on the table except for in recognition of the democratic process. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. i'm going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real need to stay with r t the . hi. i'm rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department c, i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do, don't my show state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time. but again, it's not, we don't wanna watch it because it might just change the waiting thing. the welcome magic cross that boulevard is on peter
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la. about the land you were discussing some real news. okay, let's go back to george and in budapest here, i mean what this is sending a very dangerous signal, because 1st of all, we and looking at the drums, opponents, their, their, their crocodile tears, music. it's pretty hard to believe. i mean, we went through this whole debate fiasco. we all were told that he knew joe biden is just the jim dandy, you know, sharp is attack and all of that. and then we see what happened and then they do a flip. and now there's pretending that they never demonized donald trump. there are plenty of reasons to dislike donald. trump don't get me wrong. but you know, to turn around now and say don't, we don't want anything a, any, we don't have any ill feelings we do. we don't have any hope for a disaster to, to come across him, but that's not true. it's all likes. yeah,
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exactly. it was all lies. and it was done precisely in order to whip up this is there any you call just as i say? well, you know, this isn't really what we meant. we, we're in the business of the civil discourse. i think obama issues over what we need. we need simple disclose. they're all we don't and there's no, no, no wrong. so violence. how does the civil disclose? and we will remember that to that event, that solemn events with the red lights but the by the, i call it the muso, any moment. now see leaning over the which it was a, you know, and the, during the stripe was not just on chrome, but from child support, which is and then being on enrollment soon the beginning of a biden's term. he was talking about the certainly existential thread, bruised by all sorts of, you know, characters that we, we could go the all the, you know, the, the ad cfax is the white supremacist, the white nationalist of the mag. i'll follow as that is now they'd be blamed as
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the political game really, you know, for years and years. and of course, something like this is going to happen. and now this the down the road where we wish him a speedy recovery this what's, what is the mileage you decide is out all hibler and he's going to in democracy, but he's agenda is to in democracy. now you wish you most media regarding why would you wish him a speedy recovery? he's only going to end democracy in 42. and i'm wanting to know the way that the rhetoric has been played out and it's almost getting close to 10 years. so that when you think about it, okay, almost 10 years is that there is no middle ground. there is no compromise. everything is a pure a t test. okay. you can't run a democratic society like that for very long it's utah and i think the, the situation that we're not in america. well, we have a choice of these 22 liters, who are both quite controversial and quite polemic for different reasons. i think
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the system is quite limited in the system. it may will be the this particular election will spock a completely new process, new process of dialogue from people right across this whole section of society to ask you know, can we do something about the system? can we create a system which is more on more liberal, i'll put something which, which sense a certain will fix ability induction for example. you know, we, we've seen the emergence of kids to guest alma who has basically taken control of the country with the lowest election to announce ever a. so people are starting to ask questions, you know, is it time for breast, some type of proportional representation of voting system? i think i'm probably the america is unlike person. you don't have that protest. foot accountants are in the middle. you don't have a policy called the liberals. you know, it's either one thing or the other. i mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is really now more than ever. we're beginning to see how the system is sustaining people. and you are quite right to say that, you know,
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it's very hard to imagine how coming into power with at least half of the country. now obviously it's time into the world come in. and so my point, my point is somebody has to change, and i think this is probably the breaking point. yeah, i mean it's because george mean elections. they're becoming less meaningful. i mean, you, just, as you pointed out, you know, what, you know, things everybody has to vote, you know, we're a voter turnout. you know, this legitimize the election, but it doesn't happen that way. mean that it's still, it's for a boat and the se, in western media, but i mean, there are tens of millions of americans that don't believe the 2020 outcome. they believe the trump one in 2016. the one in 2020. and he's good one went in 2020 thoughts except for they won't let him. they can just so you can define that yourself. go ahead. george. yes, that's, that's. that's right. and that's exactly how people will see it. and really,
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you know, this, this, this estimation of the time comes authorized the series of events. remember, you know, they tried to take him off the ballot, but it's a color, unheard of. yeah. do that, that think somebody off of the ballot where you don't have a right to vote for this person. imagine that, i mean the hosp, the country regard, same as the legitimate prison. and then you said, well, no, no we, we, we made a decision. if you don't have the right to vote, so i've never done the, you know, an attorney general in new york state decide that i'm just gonna bankruptcy. i'm just going to take away the law of his money. and i'm going to come up with some convoluted ridiculous legal theory that has never been tried. and i know i'm going to get a sympathetic judge. i was just going to take all his money away and they, and they tried to do it. it's only because they the, the court jumped in and said, well, you know, i'll give it, take it easy with, with, with, with this say this money grabbed another because, you know, we have, uh, you know, was the, uh, the in full indictments. i mean, that's just unheard of, you know,
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use, it's been a president. there's never been invited once and now we have full of time for an election. so this is the last 90 process in which you got these political 5 is the absolutely determined to prevent the coming supply of somebody will off the country regards as their legitimately to, well, you know, all the way to the business of in fundamentally unstable situation. i mean, the have, or that has to be some kind of a political consensus whereby, you know, you don't believe is accept outcomes and respectfully leader of the organization. now what, what we had did during these last 2 and, you know, 24 hours easily off the, he bulk us, it image the political to establish it pretends that's the system. yeah, we all wish him well, a prez. i still to impreza with these families of the i to the secure site at the moment is strictly to solve this thing. but ultimately, we know we're going to go back with a few weeks. we're going to go back to the uh,
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the, the trop hysteria. m a, you know, martin, and so i'm glad the judge brought up these frivolous lothair suits because the in the liberals, they prefer reading jerry's, but i think the rest of us would prefer the jury of the electorate let they let the electorate be the jury. now you've already explained to us being the impediments in the u. k. i mean, i'm astounded by maybe outcomes of the french and u. k. a selection, i mean, just because you will, a lot of roads doesn't mean you get much power, a seal the think come when the case of trump is what's, what's really interesting for me is that this breaks down this sort of from the crumbling of this foundation to what we believe since so long with the foundations of american democratic model. you know what people really believes and that they almost had originate river and as to it, in the forty's and fifty's and now it's crumbling. and it's comforting on both sides. you know, we talk about trump in his estimated time. it seems to me to invite him to come,
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don't need to buy some kid to, to shoot bikes and welcome from the warehouse near nobody's name here. now nobody's doing it seems to be doing it a pretty good self assessment ational suicide on himself. you know, we were seeing panic now in the whole system and the democrats are beginning to panic in a different way. you go now i think 20 congressmen have written to, to, to, by the same look you know, you know, we love you, but give it up. i think also the hollywood has been waiting and as well. people at george clearly read it was very diamond piece of the new york times. i mean, really touching base, my fingers spoke on behalf of a lot of hollywood products. you know, well, you know, i probably probably only i, i really do not have careful but teeth like shepherds go any. i can say a hollywood is so corrupt and the money, you know, money corrupts everything. so money coming from hollywood into the political process is just the script. you know, you don't judge what's really, what's really amazing to me. trump, it will be
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a dictator. he will shut down democracy. you know, refresh my memory. he was president from the spears. okay. i didn't shut down the media didn't shut down the trade unions. he didn't. it didn't go after hillary clinton. it made his own deal. jay went after him. i mean, what did this is just say a narrative may add a folk song. it's not as if we don't know who the guy is, is that, that's the amazing thing. because, you know, we've, if you look back on the trump, is it basically galvan and as a kind of a moderate centrist or a republican? i mean romney, derek. i'm at raleigh. i mean, yeah, you know, he brought in the tax guys, every republican president, boy, those tax gods. i mean that's the signature policy of, of republican administrations. and it does have as far on all of say, well, they've promised all kinds of things. he never delivered it. so you know, the,
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the whole idea always going to withdraw from need. so he's going to withdrawal from syria. he's going to withdraw him from, i've got his phone, didn't do any of those things. and they get older. he gets like, even by the, you know, you know, going over say, you know, i, i know founded by the no one here is the final bind please the withdrawal from afghanistan and trumped. isn't that sad? yeah, i'm going to do that. but he, you know, ultimately he didn't go ahead with it. so if you look back on those, he is just to take away his personality. he was a pretty, a centrist republican. so the hysteria has absolutely no basis whatever. and the whole this, like what you said made out of whole bloke, but the idea that he was pro russia, but he fav brewton is just so stupid. so with the all this, well, the large was russia gauges back. ok, let's you know, you know, mind it's really interesting. in looking at this campaign, you're obviously there's a microscope scope on joe biden because of his mental acuity issues here. but, you know, you have to give credit where credit's due,
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trust has been running. and amazingly moderate to campaign was very, is very careful. he's, he's, he, he is, i think he's, he's got himself under control. and this is what, and now this, the campaign is completely turned upside down. again, everyone's going to be focusing on a, was your rhetoric. it was your narrative, etc, etc, etc. and not on the policy is go ahead. i don't think i know why i think tell me why trump is that seems to be more so, but um, even even some of the lengths and at times when you would think he would rise the page, the most sensational i think is because he's got the media expert center, and they've looked at the types, and they just valuate it, where he's gone wrong in the past. and you know, he's more, he's is between more media professional now and the way that you can see the way that is. so evidence was it was what is the base with the item? yeah. is that it c p the s plus told him you don't need to weigh and you don't need
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to throw your arms around and say, oh, these stupid insults. just let the guy bury himself, which is what he did, you know? so i think to there is, there was a new trump emerging, which is one who listens to his advice as well. and it's so clear the blind doesn't listen to any of his advisors setting up media, you know, and i think that's really going to make a difference on it. it may will mean made a critical difference when it comes to the, to the function and get a but some i, i think we'll have to wait and see. and, you know, i think the also i'm, but it's got enough problems in the next few weeks. so, um, the democrats are telling me that there was a critical cut off point somewhere in the middle of august, where there will be no option any more to go with vitamin as well. but definitely with the, with the republican convention coming up. but there's gotta be plenty for all of us to chew on here gentlemen, that as all the time we have, i want to thank my guessing, budapest and verification. of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are d. c. next time. remember prospect most the
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