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oppression, but coming up with better speech, better ideas, the american people are being actively deceived by the united states government. and this deception is being perpetrated and encouraged by a, a compliant mainstream media. and it's only through the actions of independent journalist, alternative media, people such as myself, that we, we can challenge this. and so literally what's happening right now is the epi, i, the department of justice, is seeking to suppress the challenge to the ongoing deceptions carried out by the united states government about what's happening in ukraine, about russia. and the danger of this is that if we don't get to grips with reality, if we don't seek to try and improve relations with russia, we are on the slippery slope that hedge in one direction in one direction only. and that's nuclear war. well that is a rock for the sound like 6 me come down for choosing alternate today. and everyday news we hope to see soon have a great weekend. the
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of the basic rules is sylvia. and it keeps ground. they'll find out the with the end of world war one, the movement for indian independence from the british empire flared up with renewed vigor. the british responded to the growth of the national liberation movement with arrest and brutal violence. repression cause active resistance. in march 1919 at the call of mahatma gandhi, a peaceful strike began in the country. but the british responded with a new round of violence and far bade the indians to gather more than 4 people.
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on the day of the sea bass at t festivals. a huge crowd of civilians gathered in the center of the city of i'm the star in northern india, seeing bass as outright defiance. general reginald dyer gave the order to open fire on the on arms people. the barbaric execution claimed the lives of at least 379 indians, including 40 children, the youngest of who was 6 weeks old. the indian national congress considered the official figures to be underestimated and announced to the death of more than $1000.00 civilians. the well known greatest newspaper, the morning post called dyer, the man who saved india, gave him a sword and 26000 pounds sterling as a token of gratitude for the massacre. the amorous dar massacre went down in
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history as one of the most brutal crimes of the british invaders, and only escalated the affair. struggle of the indians for liberation from the colonial yoke. the, the sometimes it's easy to be a good citizen. you've got to work every day. you will be the law, you vote and elections, you pay your taxes. that's easy enough, right? so what about when you are working for the government and you are asked to do something that is clearly illegal for the constitutes waste fraud or abuse? well, we would hope that you would blow the whistle, but at the same time, you know that the consequences are serious. the states are high and then you do it any way you're in for a fight. but at least you have the law on your side. now buckle up for the right. i'm going to reaku. welcome to the whistle blowers the
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. 2 2 2 2 2 the media focus so much on the senior, most levels of government, that's where many of the most consequential decisions are made that impact our lives. that's where foreign policy and military policy are determined. that's where monetary policy is decided. and it's these policies and other high level government actions that, for the most part, give us the countries that we have. but what most people don't realize or perhaps don't think about is that much of what makes the country run data day is done at the local and regional levels. think about the local governmental entities that handle food assistance that protect children and the elderly, or that process, retirement assistance or housing subsidies, maybe health care, even drug treatment programs. those are the people who actually make the government run without them. everything would just grind to a halt and what happens then when
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a supervisor tells an employee to do something that he or she is not licensed or qualified to do. what happens when the request itself is illegal? really? there's only one answer here. you blow the whistle and if you have to take to the courts, our next guest is in the midst of just such a fight. deanna ratliff was an employee of the alleghany covington, department of social services in the us state of virginia. according to a lawsuit that she recently filed with the alleghany county circuit court, deanna was wrong. we fired from her job and not once, but twice. the 1st time she was fired was for refusing to violate the law by performing work that she was not certified or license to do. she was reinstated by the state. but then she was fired again in retaliation for her original whistle
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blowing. so she did exactly what she should have done. she sued. we're very happy that diana joins us today. along with her attorney, tommy strode. thank you both so much for being on the show. thank you for having me . yeah, as background for our viewers give us an idea of the kind of work that you were doing for the county and for the state of virginia and tell us what it was that your supervisor wanted you to do. that was so inappropriate. i was a supervisor of virginia department of social services, allegheny county department, and i was the supervisor over benefits, which is the benefits for snap medicaid and tanf. um, what did happen is ard, cps, r a p as have left, the facility has been resign one. so our new director came to the
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agency and because of that, we had no cps or a p s workers. and she had asked to supervisors to start filling in where they had no one. so she had asked for me to do all the intake cause i had to go out on 2 different occasions to do 2 different families. and what i did not feel comfortable doing that because i was not trained or certified in to be a cps, or a p s worker. i had several employees under me as her supervisor, and they were all brand new employees. they were still, i'm training to be the benefit workers. and in order to vehicle eligible benefit worker, you have to be certified through the state of virginia. and none of my workers except for 3, were trained and certified the director had asked that i put the
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new people on to these cases right away. and i had advised her that i could not do that. and she had continually requested that i do that, and as i was terminated, there's been some press coverage of your suit in the local media. and one thing that struck me is that this has to do with 2 very important governmental entities, child protective services, and adult protective services. so we're talking about literally the most vulnerable members of our society, your alleging in your lawsuit that your supervisor repeatedly ordered you to perform services that required certification and training for specific regulations . you didn't have that certification or training, and the supervisor also routinely directed you to assign newly hired staff members
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to process benefit applications with no certification training. local investigative journalists have confirmed your version of the story. so you objected to these orders internally and then what were you ignore? what happened next? um, what happened next was it was on a matter of a few weeks where um i was, i was put back on a back burner. um i was taken out of the rolls. um why it wasn't taken out of the roll a supervisor. i was just told that all my employees under me would no longer be under me. so i was still a supervisor, but i had no one to supervise. um and then it came to everybody was making up things to put against me to give me terminated. um i had spoke with the director several times asking for
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a meeting. she refused to give me a meeting. i was brought into her office right before i was terminated, as you tried to write me up on false accusations different times on the 3rd time. that's when she fired me. i as i was in the office with her and the assistant director way and she did fire me and the reasons why she fired me are still to this day. i really don't understand why i was terminated. we frequently hear that the life of a whistle blower is a solitary one. and as soon as things become controversial, co workers, friends, sometimes even family members, distance themselves. what's the reaction been to your whistle blowing among your colleagues and also in the broader community prior to the new director coming in to the agency. we had a very close knit family there at the agency. we were all very close,
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we were all confident with each other and we had no issues, a mocks, anybody in the facility until the new director came in after that. um several things that have happened. um i lost friends, i was so mentors that i've met along the way and i've also it came to a point where i got so depressed once that i was terminated, that i had to be put on medication because of the medication. the doctor put me on i am as well as my marriage over this i um they, we had to basically move from the state of virginia just so i can find employment again a while. well, thank you dan and tony. we're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to talk about what it was. the
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blower can do not only to protect himself or herself, but what the whistle blower can do to change the entire system state to. 2 2 2 2 2 the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians fixtures design to simplify. it will confuse really once a better world and is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented it is. can you see through their illusions, going underground can hello
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and welcome to cross the full force. here we discuss the real in the welcome back to the whistle blowers. i'm john kerry onto we're speaking with diana ratliff whistleblower in the us state of virginia and with her attorney. tommy stroker. thanks again for being with us. thank you for having me that you. i'd like to go through the modalities of your whistle blowing. i know from personal experience that a lot of thought goes into these decisions. what was your process? you couldn't really go through your chain of command because it was your chain of command. that was the problem. so what did you do? how did you actually blow the whistle? i still follow procedures and went through the chain of command. i went to the board, i went to the regional consultants. i went to the state when i was
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fired in october, and i called the state and let the state know exactly what was going on. they rehired me. they re hire me and put me on administrative pay and to up on investigation was file. and what happened is, i think it was a week to 2 weeks later i got a phone call from one of the people that does our health insurance. and she had told me the, i'm really sorry to do this. i'm gonna go ahead and pay the money back into your account for being a taken out of your health insurance. and i said, what are you talking about? and that's when i was informed that i was fired. the 2nd time the department social services never told me the 2nd time that i was terminated, i found out through an outside employee that was terminated. so i went through the
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state, i went through regional consultants, i sent emails, i told them everything that was going on inside the business and i, you know, i was to terminate it again. so let's talk about that. you are fired and then you're reinstated. how long were you back at work then before you were fired again and is that when you decided to go to court when they fired you for the 2nd time? yes, when i was fired the 2nd time, that's when i. 2 needed to get legal representation. um i believe it was a week to 2 weeks that i was fired a 2nd time. so that happened very quickly. let's, let's talk about the law. do you feel like the law, as it stands in virginia right now, affords you a chance at what really is a redress of grievances? of course, there's a whistleblower protection law at the federal level. what statutory support do you
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have at the state level and what kind of a timeline are you operating under until your suit is heard? and frankly, tommy, you may want to weigh in on this to as an attorney, the laws that we're using is a whistle blower law that is allowed for local governments and for public employees . however, for ginia is rather well known as not having very many robust laws. the with a fraud and abuse was of lowered protection as allows employees like the inner ratliff to claim retaliation which is done. but it's only been on the books for a few number of years. the private industry employees just became protected in virginia in july of 2020, under a new state law. and there are just other states that are more concerned, seemingly with the plaintiffs and whistle blowers,
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the federal whistle blowing regimen really regards whether or not federal tax dollars are being wasted in this matter, seemingly regarded a lot of state tax dollars being wasted. and along with other violations of state law. so there are not, truthfully, there are not a lot of whistle blowers in the state of virginia. there just aren't the laws are not as robust as the other states. but hopefully that can change. and it's people like miss ratliff and make those ripple effects happen. deanna, do you want to comment on that? well, he is correct. um. i just felt that the reason why i seek legal representation is because the director that's there now is abusing the system. she is not following policy procedures and it weighed on me not knowing if our children were safe or if the adults in our community were say,
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having her in that role. and she did not the same procedure to the point where we lost everybody in adult protective services and child protective services . they are left at facility because of her and because there was no one there, it didn't make our community volleyball because she was the director. i'd like to get both of you to comment on this last one. did a beginning with you. what advice would you give somebody considering blowing the whistle on waste, fraud, abuse or illegality? and is there anything that you would do differently? i would not do anything differently. i knew something was going to happen. that's why i made sure i printed off all my text messages between myself and those and higher up with me or emails. i protected myself because i knew what
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she was doing was that right? i would say to anybody out there that wants to be a whistle blower. you may be the only one to do it. you're going to stand alone. if you have a good support system like i do have um, that's what you need. but if you are the only person standing and you know what you're doing is 100 percent. right. stand alone and tell me from a legal perspective, what advice would you give would be whistle blowers stand by a principal. lot of times there are laws that also mirror that stands. in other words, if you raise your hand at the workplace, because you're concerned about something that you consider to be unlawful. in most states, in most situations, unemployment, you are protected from retaliation. ms. radcliffe was protected from retaliation
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and that's where lawsuits about what can the average person do to encourage our elected officials to enact legislation, or even our regulatory officials at the state and local level to enact new regulations that would protects whistle blowing and truth telling. especially late of the fact that what we're talking about here is clearly in the public good. i had a $0.02 on that. one thing is that a, just a awareness of who we serve lowered is in my experience of doing this for closely 20 years. whistle blowers are not out for a buck. quick one or a slow one and not out for that. the reasons that they pursue the matters is because of a wrong and they were harm. and they're not there to try to get rich. whistle blowers want some lights on a situation that was a great concern to them because they felt that the situation was either breaking the law or otherwise harmed others. there's something that needs to be encouraged.
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frown upon. and no time should anyone consider whistle blowers be individuals who are trying to gain the system or cheese some things that they didn't or they come to the table having been armed. that's what i'd like to say. thank you. and you deanna. i would, i would agree to what, what he has said that a lot of people don't think that was a blowers are harmed, i was, i was mentally armed. i was, i was embarrassed the day that they terminated me. the 1st time when i opened up the door, i had a police officer standing there to meet me to escort me out of the building. so this was the cause, embarrassment to me in front of all my workers. so it was um,
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it was a very bad experience and i loved my community. i loved working with my clients and knowing that i was taken out of that i became, i went into a very bad depression. tell me, is there anything from a legal perspective that you would like to cover that we haven't covered? um, sure. so um, let's talk about retaliation. most whistle blowers who are able to pursue anything, pursue it on the basis of retaliation. what is retaliation? retaliation is when you are harm for engaging and what is known as a protected activity. now there are federal statute that say, hey, these things over here. if you do these at the workplace, these are protected. usually these things are subject matters that you can talk about. for instance, the things that you can, i like to say, raise your hand at the workplace. subjects that you're allowed to talk about by
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raising your hand at the workplace with the chain of command above you with management, with leadership, and not received any harm or otherwise be retaliated against for doing that. so virtually every statute that protects whistle blowers is a retaliation statute, meaning that it lists things that are protected at the workplace. that is a employee in gauges in those protective things. but then as subsequently the way they have a claim for this that you, it's wrong doing is the protected activity. this ratliff engaged in the protected activity of reporting wrong doing at the workplace. wrong doing is defined by the statute as various violations of law. i think our viewers ought to remember too that there is a generally agreed upon legal definition of whistle blowing and forgive me for sounding like a broken record. but it is bringing to light any evidence of waste,
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fraud, abuse, illegality, or threats to the public health or public safety. wisdom blowing is done in the public interest regardless of the high cost. and that is something that, at every level of government and not just of government, but in society, we shouldn't be promoting. thank you, dan and tommy, for shedding light on this case. thank you. i should say, the silver, the interest of the case, the kind of integrity and transparency exhibited in deanna ratliff quite against illegality has to be a part of our culture. integrity and transparency has to be taught as fundamental values. without whistle blowers impunity becomes a very sound duration upon which systems of corruption are built. and if that impunity is not demolished all efforts to bring an end to this kind of corruption are in vain. i'd like to thank our guests deanna ratliff and her attorney for being with us today. and thank you to our viewers for joining us for another episode of
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the whistle blowers. i'm john curiosity. please follow me on subsets at john kerry, yahoo! we'll see you next time the. 2 2 the the 19 sixty's were a turning point in africa. struggle for liberation. however, in the south of the continental european races decided from the agony of colonialism. give 1965. the white minority, unilaterally declared the state of rhodesia states authorities pursued the policy of racial segregation. the indigenous population was deprived of rio political
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