of the anglo french troops defeated the chinese occupied basie and committed an unprecedented robbery. destroyed and blundered the wells of the un mean you one palace, the defeat of the jing dynastee and the do opium wars lead to the transformation of this. so let's deal empire into a semi colony of your, to be in state and started the age of humiliation. and the sale of opium took on collazo proportions and lead to the horrible depths of millions of ordinary chinese . the hello and welcome to cross top boulevard and john peter live out here we discussed some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict and ukraine to

it in given the forces arrayed against him from says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. what would his deal look like? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast, read the gamble, which can be found on youtube and locals. and in america we have martin j. he is and award winning journalist and commentator for a gentleman crossed up rules and the fact that news can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated quite, let's kick it off with george included as well. it's becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we have heard trouble say throughout the campaign that he would end because going to new crane in 24 hours. he's even given a call the reason way before he was or not i'll get rated if he's victorious and november and then looking at the convention. so there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neal cons, very well known individuals lives, chaney and bill crystal, paul ryan, and many,

many others like pans. they weren't there. j. d bans was there. mike pompeo was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know, trump is his election prospects are looking good. um and so we have to think hard about the reality that he may inherit this for the binding started as well. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining an ambiguity as do well in the 1st. that is what exactly america 1st really means. but in the 2nd place, how if you will resolve this problem that it in ukraine because it goes and yes, there are other people like a j b vans. they take it to me in the right of us, we focus on america's problems. we don't waste our resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime, but they are, oh is well there and such as you get

a powerful congressional chem and like michael, my cool and their idea of america for us is what we go in and we own like bite me give you credit in the tools to finish the job. so that is that yeah, yeah. the you know what trunk will do is very different from the little button book . he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite of what trump has been saying. there's a trump has been gliding by without having to exactly spell it out. i mean, they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute, like getting frederick flights and uh keith kellogg. um, but the trump is not working those to any of those plans. so yes, he says he's going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us, some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that in,

you know, final uh, anything of the will will look like. yeah. line you with uh, i think it was on friday that uh trump had a conversation with uh, the now illegitimate president of the grange zelinski and the readout from both sides was kind of boiler plate them. it was an excellent, perfect. tell a fellow to go on his way. his trump like sykes, to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing. nothing was specified, no details where it's best, like, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to an approved new said repeatedly about how negotiations. because i know these details were given exceptionally weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. well, they were in agreement to the idea of trump waiving his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape, but nothing, nothing for as much detail as because i don't think so. i'm part of the details at

this point. you know, random, i'll see you soon because if your insurance gets position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's a little bit like shaking hands with the devil. you know, one minute from can be of find the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy if you just don't react the way you was needed to rattle the time and respect his particular requirements when it, when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably was an excuse trying very carefully. amazing. simply had a conversation because, you know, everybody is now just assuming that we're gonna have trump in the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made a long time ago. these gonna fix your credit and in 24 hours and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very so the restore approach to it that i think the official statement was like, it's nobody really stick, you know, and somebody made a statement before about fixing them, at least when he was president. and in fact,

you know, it's sort of them hacks like me who actually look at them at least and say, well actually, if you have not done what you did with this well, and i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you didn't go and show in the trunk comp. elizabeth took in regards to abraham accords and shifting no capitals and acknowledged in westminster. how in north dakota all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because link the to, you know, think when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture. i think october, the 7th was a huge. i'm circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm part of that was that they go sold down the river with the i, but i'm a coach, but everybody including the harps, you know, so i think to, he's in a pickle and i will in myself to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was. years ago that he was so ukraine wouldn't die

because he would just turn up and say, right, you know, have any more might the end of us funding and not more or less would be the silver bullet. but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think, i think what we're seeing reality is that he will pull off a seesaw in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that, it's going to be very, very difficult. because there are a whole bag of complications the which one that initially when he made those statements, one of which this has been mentioned by georgias dad events who doesn't give a to hopes about ukraine. and i'm, but i is fixing up the rhetoric now to also on and china. and so that complicates things even further with russia, signing any sort of a piece deal in ukraine. you know, there's lots and lots of news now, and that's always a good copy of that we mentioned on this program and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want. but there for us, it isn't at the table. we've been in it just say, hey, let's just do 2 of the georgine, you and i pointed out in the past. and maybe it's

a um, a material detail. but when trump has said, you know, he wants this resolved before he is, and now get ready to this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach. but i've always felt, and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement, is this the call despite who's wards in the distance and south of from it and, and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. it maybe that's just re reach and in reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean, it was famously, i think daniel patrick moynihan uh, told richard nixon just as he was taking office in january 1969 the, unless you bring this war and the time to an end in no time. and so this will be known as nixon's war, but until then, it has been johnson's will, and i was going to be nixon's well,

and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to in the media of conclusion. alex was, he then got blamed for the war and i think trump consciously or unconsciously. it is thinking along those lines that are in no time a tool and the democrats are very, very good at the political marketing will say, hey, this is drums floor. trump is made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end. it's actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he wants to get this all set planes, but it's a little bit easier to send them down. now. um the, the issue of what you know, what and then their suggestions of this from being the boss and their suggestions of this from this fred flights and that keeps cat local road was paid before the might of already. so as far as is, is that, well, what are they going to do is go to zelinski and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cut off your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say,

well, unless you show up to the strong presence and clearly indicate that you want to end as well, we're going to double our assistance to ukraine. so they think that they've been very queued um. but then the, even if this happens, even if the, you know, and that's possibility of, of, i get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realizes that the days of it is based on process without russia are over. i think you've comp william says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend, but even if that happens, then where do we go from here? yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place. but what would be the point of that? the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is all involved this one buying is that he doesn't care about nato. and so that whole issue of, oh, where, you know, the daughter nato, for ukraine. you know, every country has a right to decide on joining a control doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both on the north side

. okay. the, the whole, the more so george of the market right now, nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day at the end of the day. that's what it's going to be. they can, they can have all of their p, r and they're complaining and trunk proofing and all that. but once the word is out from washington, nato will follow. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean, we'll next we will be around to, i mean, since you're pretty small, people certainly much smaller people to me, photos of them. so i'm out running a list, but up it's the same. that is main service on a self destruction cause i think, um, i don't think trump would have any problem in going don't history being the capitalist who bought that about you know, he, the products on school is that whichever way he moves is going to come from a film collision with europe and is there is so many signals. now the americans are heading to the trade will near of trump and vance. now want to um, hike up tires with china. effects on

a whole lot of goods right across the will. not only with china, but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that doesn't have a leverage. so you said that, you know, america basically is nathan nathan was america. if he has a massive time from and sense to present scalar, you're not only having normal aid from america. you have a normal aid from nato and you from the big players individually in europe. that could be a huge game change that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that i think you're referring to. but the meetings on the phone call, sorry, between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details and found list for the 10th. one of them was the full key regions, you know, which are and, and, and the disputes and was a. so then scale gives them up. it's written the best is, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in my

view, go from being a friend to the phone with from and the reaction to that was going to be, well, you are the problem now, so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is lucy's golf course is that is due to me see, you know, you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore here. how much lower than that go on for when you have these international piece conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge showing our viewers very clearly health problem. ag drums problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on from and you quite and stay with our to the more expensive. and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why? watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere

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it looks at it very with any varies with a very sober mind, but buying is entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless. and people are attached to this. i mean, it's pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, the effort to the, and it's like the strategic defeat on russia is just as real now as it was for years in charge. so that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise for chrome. because the republican party, along with the democrats, um, supports this war and i mean by their public and but being a big, large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that 61000000000 dollar package where ukraine uh was passed um a few weeks ago. um basically, you know, the, the senate republicans softly congressional republican supported it. so that's really a trumps problem. that if he does go down this month,

if he decides to bite the bullet and this, and that goes along and says, well, this, this war and you've written, it makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks, even though he goes up to speed, consistently thing that says way and 16. so therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america, with our interest. let's just bring it to an ent, he is going to come into conflict immediately with it because of the congressional republicans. and they are very unhappy about that because the input they and then it was, well now say we need to do give you great everything. it needs to get the job done to the feed for usher. so ultimately he's going to have to build a good to confront this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue in a fruitless river. let's remember who's of his own speaker, you know um mike or mike, but he doesn't, you know, mike johnson,

he's the one to push that 61000000000 dollar package for ukraine. so he's going to keep him happy. is it so it's going to be very difficult for him and you mentioned about the impeachment. yeah, that's a real possibility. i mean the lead people like lindsey graham and, and michael mccaul and all the rest of them. they're not just going to sit still and, and watch. uh you, ukraine, that's basically it all we, ukraine is being sold down the river when we're getting boots and everything we of george, we see the rushing gate rearing its ugly headache and they'll rush. it gave him a deer. okay, this is already up in the mix, right? no more than, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike pompei o, we actually spoke of a, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or uh, uh, appropriate to himself. what america 1st is, which is definitely the complete, diametrically opposed to what someone like from and well, from what we know of

a vans but there are other people around john radcliff, robert o'brien, rick right now, but i don't see them going along with the trump or vans vision here, i mean it's, we can say there's just going to be congressional resistance, but even within his administration, if he's thinking about mike pay or marco rubio. oh i, i don't know. i would think that the, the, the, the impeachment process will be set up in january. he's got some problems. he definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly sort of, and visions a earlier on when he made this a read over simplistic statements. but you claim you probably isn't going to be results in a day or a week or, or, or i think and model. so i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump, in his new administration. what was interesting for me about the conference is the 3 brits who turned up. i'm not sure if i just trust and both johnson but what

really shocked me. and i really did. opens that i'm on jewel. just let me further drill. i couldn't not believe peter, how much time trump gave devoris johnson and bear was still remote this with the british press of the roman articles and the independence saying basically the bar as johnson is more or less convince from that so he needs to can continue the campaign with ukraine against russia. i'm the front of the him gets pressed, covers the fact the boy is johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication, but he's not quite so gun. how and quite so binary. now on, you kinds us before, he's prepared to work with some of the people around the well to a very close to ukraine is i of course, don't. so they've got to be, was lensky is by really has to pick up. people just have at least one big that's really how can you, i just think boy just just think around the well, just basically, you know, promote seeing new grading zalinski. he's not the old one. he's not either,

but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way, but it, so we might, we might be surprised. we might be surprised, but actually trump reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to fund a diplomatic solution which gives him still the price and the, and the, the, the international prestige. they need to wear this thing about the whole thing of ukraine for me is you have this relationship between a trump on 210. and one has to ask this question. what's it based on? is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries that creates another as a real control over real estate, whatever. um or is it just an operation or is it when they do the russian secret service will go all sorts of things on from the he's worried about. it's really amusing how this continues, but i just don't see how it so i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean,

why should the united states unless should be enemies? why over here? what? yeah, of them. george. so that's exactly right, and i think that's the look instinctively. trump understood that when the colewell came to an end and the book, but the well what, what, what's, what's this of the football um, i don't think that there's any real um, relationship between from russia and i think it was the late, steven co and your supply the dinner trump is actually one of the few kind of leading businessman in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in roster. i mean the, you know, he's talked about various projects building of trump. uh, but he's never really uh, pull that off. i think that he does see russia as a potential ally against china. he believes in brands believes that china is a looming threat and, and that's, and they basically have to have to mobilize them really alliance to the extent that you know, it's,

it's still worth having. you have to mobilize it against the china. i mean, i think he would like to downgrade the europeans in those as well. okay. we, we will contain russia, but you do that that's, that's your task. and other idea of europeans like, you know that that's what you need to focus on. we will focus on china, is that what we we will reorient though, so those 2 contain a china in asia. i think that's what you would like. um, ukraine is just as old a message here with you. and you know, you can either way, it has to be resolved, but um, you know, if i think so, you know, we can take the oregon and so far is johnson. so, you know, oregon goes through the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah. trump told me he's gonna bring this to an end on full of confidence that he knows as though he's going to bring it to an end. um and then the bar is done. so it says, yeah, i'm absolutely confident going to drop those off to do with you crate. so what does

that feel as if joseph looked from just sent that tells it his name to lock. you does what they want to hit, or if i'm not able to, the was going to come to an entity and just to bring it to an end, hidden in by the time he is in order to write the bar is johnson says, yeah, trump to go guy trump season, he's with us on the nato. he's going to do your dirty things. the wrong is the made disappoint to everyone. customer. yeah. my friend, you know, so we've talked about what barnes johns and things and j. b. vance. and maybe what trump saying they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, that's a very good point. the other thing that the, if you look at the, i see all of patient and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union and america coming close together and even russia becoming a lot of nature. i think he's our deal and so his role ideology is to grow us. it should be both of us that should be integrating more, you know, so from a business point of view, from a group, this group point of view from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe put in as a whole month,

or i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen name, but don't you think martin, i mean again, you know there's, there's the anesthesia is to all of this. i mean i'm, if you look at it at a distance the, i'm good was very kind of a much more liberal when he started out then in this chain. why? because the west is a club, and russ is not invited. certainly thing. i mean, what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think doesn't present most of the think. well, i think i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean, nor do we even had the, the, the, the foreign minister loved it off age that you can actually me something i said to you when they come with this. in part of the conflict in ukraine started, this is going to be a breach covering and generation generations. george. yes, i think that that's right. i, i do things oh, the russians would like the,

the to written to some kind of, uh, no mallet the normal races, but we'll trade right. yeah, exactly. but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time, really in the foreseeable future. and i think that's because one of your has decided to do your business. i, the, to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire, go to europe in continents against russia, is done it without any real concern for its own interest. but it is what it is mobilize that it's now going to be very, very difficult of really cool. it does happen. i'll throw, you know, all of sending all of this and military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult. oh, okay. what do you really mean if, let's, let's go back to the good old days of what good old days will be scale. elmwood coal in the bar is the old channel on gillum, poland the young boots and just isn't going to happen. and uh, they give it to it and let me get them. i think you some ideas of your hopes along

the russians that maybe we can do that, but that's just not all. marvin finish it up. well the last 30 seconds. go ahead. i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels. but it was like one delay and it's got to have another 5 years in, in part what does that tell you about how and stuff that's a european solution to a european problem. good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table. i'm talking about, you know, getting morgan, who were china and empowering more, but money off to good money into the ukraine. black hole, you know, it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in the long term, it's going to be some sort of revolution in the countries and much, much more, you know, other, you know, what you get stuck with it unfortunately, but cups on yours, you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck. and we heard

a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around on a think, my guess in budapest, in mary america actually, and of course i want to think of yours for watching you see are to see you next time we member across the apples, the it's almost almost depletion in the west, but this whole idea reply to the last refrain in that some truth behind it. i mean, think about it for the american $60000000000.00 for the reason. a package, not a lot of money. a lot of money stays within the united states in terms of the defense contracts and the like and pulled out money that, you know, they buy time, they prolong the war, but keep russia busy. you know, this is the, ultimately, this is what the west is doing. is on a file, you know, trying to preserve west to take him and

the as a conflict between you frame drug zone. russia's defense ministry reports gaining control of low tactical grounds. and the don't yet people's are popular detective doesn't shut up here. it shows the coast a surveillance drone and they come because the drone, so we have to go under the trees to hide so that it doesn't support this process because we didn't. these intends comb boxes, most of billions, are evacuated from danger, phone to the new frames per pull. the inside more like knowing the elephants in the room, italy st. tv channel as having to be with the ukrainian soldier in the same region publicly wearing nazi regardless of the.