or something in the western gap, those might want to look at this with a, as in the ally with you when having said that, or what it's suzanne narrative. having said that, india has from the very beginning, then the new very new stance. continue with it. it's engagement with both countries, but on the line you'll a, for example, when there was a b summit in, in switzerland, the so called be somewhere where is that? gosh, yeah. 11 of the countries who was involved with once it wasn't invited email was invited, india did not send them in this theater level delegation. so that would be a little differential signing that the joint tax evasion that came out of that particular somebody didn't just see the weights on india said said, well, russia should have been there on the negotiating team with otherwise. what the, the point is that some and so in this invited to good when it comes to the conflict and india has, like i said, it's continue and it's engagement, it's continued, it's done. it's been, this is usually with moscow. in fact, of the, the oil feed,

the defense feed has opened many schools. this is going to be prime ministers, the range of all these 1st visit to ukraine. since the water in fact had started. and it's of course, will be very, very interesting to watch out. while the wizard, of course, in itself is important. there's something really gum allstate, on. linden thanks very much for the update that sante correspondent went to ensure, am i speaking to his live from new delhi? thank you. of us. before we go, some news just in some of the us where a tv presenter phil donahue was sadly passed away at the age of 88 according to local media reports. the board costa was well known in russia for organizing the 1st teleconferences with the us. i saw and hosting a joint tv program with russian enjoying a list of lot to me, a pause. and i don't know if you worked to the american nbc tv channel for several years before he was sacked in 2003 for speaking out against the war in iraq. no official cause of death has been reported to the public as yet to me. thanks for

joining us here and i'll see international. we always appreciate your company coming up next is the latest episode across, talk about this more at the top of the hello and welcome to cross top bullhorn john peter live out here we discussed some real news. we're trying to really be able to bring the conflict in ukraine to an in given the forces arrayed against him. drum says he would end the conflict before being inaugurated. well, would his deal look like to discuss these issues and more i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast for as a gamble,

which can be found on youtube and local stand in merrill tests. we have martin j. he is in ward winning, journalist and commentator for a gentleman, cross type rules, and the fact that news can jump in and tell him you want, and i always appreciate it quite. let's kick it off with george included as well. it's becoming real, george. i mean, you know, we have heard that from said throughout the campaign that he would end because went in ukraine in 24 hours. he's even given a call the recently before he was or not i'll get rated if he's victorious and november. and looking at the convention, there's a, there has been a lot of, there hasn't been a lot of commentary about few wasn't there. and a lot of the old neil comes very well known individuals lives, chaney, and bill crystal ball, ryan, and many, many others. like pens, they weren't there. jamie vance was there. mike pompeo was there as well. i think you get my drift here. you know, trump is his election prospects are looking good. um,

and so we have to think hard about the reality that he may inherit this more than bite and started slave. that's exactly right. and um, trump has been quite skillful in maintaining an ambiguity as do well in the 1st. that is what exactly america 1st really means, but in the 2nd place, how he will resolve this problem back in ukraine because it goes to a yes, there are other people like a j d vans. they take it to me in the very 1st we, we focus on america's problems. we don't waste the resources on the peripheral issues such as your crime, but they're all is, well there, room such as you get a powerful congressional chem and like mike them a cool and their idea of america for us is what we go in and we own like button give you a credit in the tools to finish the job. so that is that yeah,

yeah. the other, you know, what trunk will do is very different from of buying book. he will actually help ukraine when this will. well, that's completely the opposite of what trump has been saying. there's a trunk has been dividing by without having to do exactly spell out. i mean, they've been various papers written by people associated with the american 1st policy institute. like going frederick flights and uh keith kellogg. um, but the trump is not working those to any of those plans. so yes, he says he's going to end this in 24 hours, but it's never any given us some idea of how exactly that will be accomplished or what exactly that you know, final kind of, uh, anything of the will will look like. yeah. mine year with uh, i think it was on friday, the drum had a conversation with uh, the now illegitimate president of the grange zelinski. and the readout from both

sides was kind of boiler plate them. it was an excellent, perfect telephone to go on his with his drug, like sikes to say that they made it sound like there was a lot of agreement, but nothing, nothing, nothing was specified. no details where's best, like, for example, endorsing the, the china and proposal or a of an african proposal or reacting to an improved new said repeatedly about how negotiations because i know the details were given except that they weren't agreement. that's, that's not encouraging. well, they were in agreement to the idea of trump waiving his magic wand, encouraging a solution for everyone, including the landscape, but nothing, nothing for us has not no details because i don't think so because of the details at this point. you know, random, i think if it is, if you're into the lens, because position, probably a very wary of trump. you know, it's a, it's, it's a little bit like taking advantage of the devil. you know, one minute from can be your friend the next minute. you can be your biggest enemy

if, if you just don't react the way you was needed to rattle the time and respect his particular requirements. when it, when it comes to media or whatever. so i think i'm probably this risky, is trying very carefully amazing. simply had a conversation because you know, everybody's no, just assuming that we're gonna have trump in the white house. and he's now going to have to live up to this, this declaration you made a long time ago, these gonna fix ukraine in 24 hours. and nobody actually really believes that, you know, the russians have been taking very so the restore approach to it that i think the official statement was let us know. they were gonna stick, you know, and trump made the statement before about fixing them. at least when he was president, the facts, you know, it's sort of them acts like me who actually look at them at least and say, well actually, if you have not done what you did with this, well i'm, i'm given israel the, the impetus and the status that you don't show in the,

from comp. elizabeth took, in regards to a brown, the coats and shifting the capitals and acknowledged in westminster. how in north dakota all these things, you know, perhaps the october 7th events wouldn't happened because i linked the to, you know, think when you go back to and you're going to pick a picture. i think october the 7th was a huge um, circuit breaker sitting for, for the palestinians. i'm proud of that was they go sold down the river with the bombing codes by everyone, including the harps, you know, so i think he's in a pickle and i will in myself to his proposal, months ago or wherever it was years ago that he was so ukraine warning today because he would just throw it up and say, right, you know, i'm going to more might the end of the us funding and not more or less would be the silver bullet. but it's actually a bit more complicated than that. and i think i think what we're seeing reality is what he will pull off a seats for in his 1st week and office. but taking it further from that,

it's can be very, very difficult because there a whole bag of complications the which was that initially when he made those statements. one of which this has been mentioned by george, his daddy vance who doesn't give it to the hopes about ukraine. i'm but i is sick signal the rest right now. it's also on in china. and so that complicates things even further with russia, signing any sort of a piece deal in ukraine. you know, there's lots and lots of news now, and that's always a good copy of that. we mentioned on this program and you can have as many ideas and proposals as you want, but there for us, it isn't at the table we've been in. it's just a, an electric utility georgine unit. i pointed out in the past, and maybe it's a um, a material detail, but when trump this said below, he wants this resolved before he is a now give a to this kind of interesting to me and maybe it's a reach,

but i've always felt and i've always felt that there was a mistake on the part of his movement. is this the call despite who's wards in the distance and south of from it. and he doesn't want this war on his watch. he has a lot of other things he wants to do. i think maybe that's just re reach and reading into something that isn't their thoughts. well, i think that's right. i mean, who is famously, i think daniel patrick moynihan told richard nixon just as he was taking office in january 1969 the unless you bring this war and the time to an end in no time. and so this will be known as nixon's war, but until then it has been johnson goal now is going to be nixon's well, and that's in fact what happened. the nixon wasn't able to bring this war to an immediate conclusion. alex was t then god blamed for the war, and i think trump consciously, unconscious date is thinking along those lines that are in no time a tool and the democrats, or very, very good at the elliptical marketing will say,

hey, this is drum floor. trump has made a hash of this trunk problem is that he would bring this to an end. he hasn't brought it to an end is actually even worse than he was. it's trunk floor. so he, he, once again this office planes but it's the easiest send them down. now leave the issue of what you. busy what and then their suggestions of us from being the boss and their suggestions of this from this fred flights and that keeps kilo go rogue, this paid before the merge of all right, so as far as is, is that, well, what are they going to do? is go to zelinski and say, well, unless you show up for a peace conference with russia, we're going to cover of your assistance. and then they go to the russians and say, well, unless you show up to the strong presence and clearly indicate that you want to, uh, and this will, we're going to double our assistance to ukraine. so i think that they've been very

queued um, but then the, even if this happens, even if the, you know, and that's a possibility of, of i get this conference going and that's pro. and so that's getting realizes that the days of the, these, these conferences with russia are over, i think you've come, william says that if we have a conference and roster has to attend. but even if that happens, then where do we go from here? yeah, you may want to put a ceasefire in place, but what would be the points of that? the one selling point that i think trump has the, which is all involved. this one buying is that he doesn't care about nato. and so that's the whole issue of, oh we're, you know, open the door to nato for you. great. you know, every country has a right to decide little in joining a control. doesn't care about that. so that at least could be both of those, your installing the, the whole, the more so george of the mark right now, nato is going to do whatever the us wants at the end of the day, at the end of the day. that's what it's going to be, they can, they can have all of their p, r, and they're complaining and trump proofing and all that. but once the word is out

from washington, nato will follow. but that doesn't make things simple. go ahead mark. now, i mean, we'll next, we will be around to, i mean, clamps here, pretty small. people certainly much smaller people to me, photos of. and so i'm out running this up. it's a say that is main service on a self destruction cause i think um, i don't think trump would have any problem been going don't history being the capitalist who bought that about you know he, the problem from scott is that whichever way he moves is going to come from a film collision with europe and is there is so many signals. now the americans are heading to the trade. what was here of, um, from phone phones now want to, um, hike up tires with china. effects on a whole lot of goods right across the will not only with china, but with the europeans as well. and it's, it's done that wiggle room that they have delivery. so you said that, you know, america basically is nathan nitro is america, if he has a massive time from incense to present scalar,

you're not only having normal aid from america. you have a normal aid from nato and from the big class individually in europe, that could be a huge game changer that could, that could be, you know, pretty amazing that could stop every say and get people to focus. mine's got in those articles that say you referring to about the meetings on the phone, go sorry between to lensky and trump. there were a couple of tiny details, the gentlest photon. one of them was the full key regions, you know, which are and, and, and the dispute and was a, so then scale gives them up. it's written, the best is, this is out of the question. those lensky in no way could get those readings up, which then throws the spotlight back on so lensky and how he come over night in life. you go from being a friend to so with, from, and let himself reaction to that was going to be, well, you are the problem now. so you have to go, you know, and, and the problem is, lindsey's golf course is that it was due to me see, you know,

you mentioned earlier, there is not the person anymore. yeah. how much longer than that going for when you have these international peace conferences and where russia, what are the video bridge showing our viewers very clearly health problem. my drums problem is i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on try and you quite and stay with our to the district almost uh, almost a cliche in the west. but this whole idea of with my, to the last your brain and there's some truth behind it. i mean, think about it for the american, a $60000000000.00 for the reason. a package, not a lot of money. a lot of money stays within the united states in terms of the defense contracts and the like and pulled off money that, you know, they buy time like prolonged the wall. they keep rush of busy. you know, this is the, ultimately, this, the, what the west is doing is on a file, you know, try for the west of the hague higgin, many the

part of our executive. and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do. you do not watch my new show search like why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do they have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, we don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way the welcome back to prospect goldens. i'm beautiful though, dear. we're discussing some real news. okay, george, i need to go back to you. so come question in peace. don't worry to crate. you

might think though, we should remember that. okay. more of it. you know, it looks at it very with any varies with this very silver mine, but miss biden's entire ukraine policy has not been so, but it's been extremely reckless. and people are attached to this. i mean, it's pax americana. it is maintaining, had gemini, the, the effort to the, and it's like the strategic to feed on russia is just as real now as it was 4 years chart. so that's exactly right. and i think that's where the problems are going to arise, work home because the republican party, along with the democrats, um, supports this war and i mean by the public and, but being on big, large proportion of it. let me so like when, when that 61000000000 dollar package where ukraine was passed a few weeks ago. but basically, you know, the,

the senate republicans softly congressional republican supported it. so that's really a trumps problem. that if he does go down this month, if it decides to bite the bullet and the spend that goes along and says, well, this, this war and you brand, it makes no sense. i think it makes no sense for us to wage war against russia. we need russia as an ally against china, which i think probably is what he really thinks, even though you know that it's been consistently thing that says, way of 16. so therefore, let's you know, this has nothing to do with our america with our interest. let's just bring it to an ent, he is going to come into conflict immediately with in the congressional republicans . and they are very unhappy about that because the input they and that it was. well now say we need to do give you great everything it needs to get the job done to the feed bruship. so ultimately he's going to have to build a construct this problem that his own party is deeply divided on this issue

in a fruitless river. let's remember who's of his own speaker, you know um mike or mike, but he doesn't, you know, mike, john, so he's the one to push that 61000000000 dollar back is for your brain. so you've got to keep him happy. is it so it's going to be very difficult for him. and you mentioned about the impeachment. yeah, that's a real possibility. i mean, the lead people like lindsey graham and michael mccaul and all the rest of them. they're not just going to sit still and, and watch. uh you, ukraine, that's basically it or we, ukraine is being sold down the river when we're getting boots and everything will be of george. we see the rushing gate rearing its ugly head. you can no rush, it gave him a deer. okay. this is already up in the mix right now. more than, you know, it's interesting when we, when mike from pale i actually spoke at the, at the convention trying to, um, uh, uh, take on or uh, uh,

appropriate to himself what america 1st is, which is definitely the complete. so i metrically opposed to when someone like from and well, from what we know of advance, but there were other people around john radcliff, robert o'brien, rick right now. so i don't. so you can going along with the trump vans vision here. i mean it's, we can say there's just going to be congressional resistance, but even within his administration, if he's thinking about mike pay or marco rubio. oh i, i don't know. i would think that the, the, the, the impeachment process will be set up in january. he's built some problems, he definitely has some problems which he, he couldn't possibly soto and visions around the wrong when he made this a read over simplistic statements. but you claim you probably isn't going to be result in a day or week or, or, or i think and model. so i think it's going to be a long standing issue, a sorta inside of trump on his new administration. what was interesting for me

about the conference is the 3 brits who turned out of knowledge of how much this trust and verse johnson was really shocked me. and i really did open mind jewel, just let me for withdrawal. i couldn't not believe peter. how much time trump gave to burst johnson and burst don't really milk this. what the british press is wrong . the articles and the independence saying basically the bar as johnson is more or less convinced from that. so he needs to can continue the campaign with ukraine against russia. i'm the front of that even gets pressed. covers the fact that the boy is johnson got the time to talk to him. it gives you an indication, but he's not quite so gone. how and quite so binary, now on the new kinds he was before. he's prepared to work with some of the people around the well to a very close to you find is, i always don't, some golf, to be honest. lensky is by really has to pick up. people just have at least one big

. that's really how can you hide just big boy, just just think around the well, just basically, you know, promote thing, your cravings, let's get these. not the old one. he's not going there. but where is that still going to and you know, i think it could go either way. but if we move, we might be surprised. we might be surprised. but actually, trump reaching out more to who's a lives you know, onto how to find a diplomatic solution which gives him still the price and the, and the, the, the international procedure they need to wear. this thing about the whole thing of ukraine for me is you have this relationship between a trump on 210. and one has to ask this question. what's it based on? is it based on from one thing to do huge business in the countries the pitching of it as a real controller of real estate, whatever. or is it just an operation or is it when they do, the russian secret service will go all sorts of things on from the he's worried about. it's really amusing how this continues,

but just don't see how it so i think, you know, george, i think it's kind of more common sense. i mean, why should the united states and love should be enemies? why? okay, what? yeah. of them short. so that's exactly right. and i think that's the look instinctively trump of this stuff, but when the cold war came to an end and the book, but the well what, what, what's, what's this of the football? i don't think that there's any real relationship between from russia and i think it was the least steven co and your supply. the trend is actually one of the few kind of leading businessman in the united states or hasn't made a lot of money in roster a another. you know, he's talked about various projects building of trump. uh, but he's never really uh pull that. oh, i think that's what he does see russia as a potential ally against china. he believes in the brands, believes that china is a looming threat. and, and that's,

and they basically have to have to mobilize the alliance of extensive, you know, it's, it's still worth having, you have to mobilize it against the china. i mean, i think he would like to downgrade the europeans in, as well as look at where we will contain russia. but you do that that, that's your task. another lady of europeans like you know, that that's what you need to focus on. we will focus on china, is that what we we will reorient though, so those 2 contain china in asia. i think that's what he would like. um, ukraine is just as old a message here with you. and you know, you can either way, it has to be resolved, but um, you know, it was like, so, you know, we can take the oregon and so far is johnson. so, you know, oregon goes through the trunk because yeah, yeah, yeah, trump told me he's gonna bring this to an end not full of confidence that he knows as though he's going to bring it to and then um and then uh and then bar is done.

so says yeah, i'm absolutely confident going to drop those up to do with you. great. so what does that feel as if joseph looked from just sent that tells it his name to lock. you does what they want to hit, or if i'm able to was going to come to an entity and just to bring it to an end, hidden in by, by the time he is in order to write the bar is johnson's. as you have to go, guy trump season is with us on the need. so he's got to do your jersey the wrong is the made disappoint to everyone. and i think that's the right. yeah. my brain, you know, so we've talked about with boris johns and things and j. d. vance and maybe what trumps. and they came out and thought about watching the russians care about any of this conversation. yeah, that's a very good point. um, but i think that the, if you look at the like the only thing outpatient, and you go back long enough when there was a possibility of russia in the european union and america coming close together and even russia becoming part of nature. i think he's our deal and so his role ideology

is to rush. it should be both to us. it should be integrated more, you know, so from a business point of view, from a duplicate point of view, from a piece point of view, i don't, i don't believe put in this a little longer. i know there was so many people in the 3rd and a small to me on social media for that, but i just don't buy it. i never saw a kitchen name, but don't you think martin, i mean, i think, you know there's, there's the anesthesia is to all of this. i mean, i'm, if you look at it at a distance the, i'm good was very kind of a much of a liberal when he started out then in this chain. why? because the west is a club in russia is not invited, certainly thing. but i mean, what do you do if you're not invited? okay, you have to go your own way. yeah. but i think doesn't present most of the think. i think i go today, is there a way long? got a loan. yeah. well yeah, i mean, nor do we even had the, the, the, the foreign minister loved it off age the, and you can actually me something i said to you when that comes with this in part of the complex and you're going started. this is going to be a breach covering and generation generations. george. yes,

i think that that's right. i, i do think the russians would like the, the, to written to some kind of, uh, no mallet the normal really cuz, but a well trade trade. yeah, exactly. but it's not, it isn't going to happen any time, any time really in the foreseeable future. and i think that's because one of your has decided to do your business. i'd have to mobilize itself, mobilize that entire, go to europe in continents against russia, is done. it without any real concern for its own interest, but either so it is mobilize that it's now going to be very, very difficult for all that has happened. i'll throw, you know, all of sending all of this and military assistance in order to kill russians. it's going to be very difficult, very well. ok. what do you really mean if let's, let's go back to the good old days of what good old days will be scale. elmwood colon, the bar is the old channel on gillum,

poland. the young boots and just isn't going to happen and, and then they give it to it and let me get them. i think there's some, uh, ideas of your hopes along the russians that maybe we can do that, but that's just not all your marvin finish it up for the last 30 seconds. go ahead . i think the take away now. so for me, for the last few days, looking at all these huge events is the holistic news from brussels. but obviously when the land is now going to have another 5 years in part, what does that tell you about health and stuff? that's a european solution to a european problem. good luck. and she's already re buying your fist on the table and talking about, you know, getting more gun, who would china and, and pulling more money off to good money into the ukraine. black hole, you know, it, it, so many people of said to me on social media, this is fantastic news because it means in a long time it's going to be some sort of resolution in the countries and much,

much more, you know, other, you know, what's, what's stuck with it unfortunately, but cups on yours, you're a bit stuck and we'll see if the republican party is stuck on. we heard a lot of good things, but a lot of bad people still hanging around when i think my guess in budapest, in mer, america actually and of course i want to think of yours for watching you see are to see you next time. remember across stuff was the what is a part of the leg, isn't it, but it would post good. isn't the the place you of us and that in the word part is it something deeper, more complex might be present? let's stop without please. is that spelled out of or

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