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down on the weight of the final independence, the i met representative side to the rally in washington, d. c. t introduced this dentist while i do a gathering of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag, held them by lawrence. as i love this because, and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion about that i saw this flag and fell in love with this. and i really liked it. when i found out that the designer was laurie spanish. lauren is the grand daughter of sent it to johnston. he represented doing a time of jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was okay. is just so important to me, to accept that over time and through the generations of people change on the hip hop. why they are, you feel pops when light in and inspires. and i respect
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honoring your ancestors ion or mine. and that's kind of, i feel where the clash happens because no one's going to back down from that. but i need you to acknowledge the brutality that was carried out under that banner. and once you can do that, then hopefully a dialogue can begin and we can come to some sort of agreement because i'd rather have you as my neighbor then my enemy, we need to speak the mind body panel and it's nothing more to say. so i would say 2 months i would turn the stuff in the,
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the, it's pretty flag that's about the extent of it. it does not replace what we have. i understand, you know, the 20 stars the significance and what the meaning of that supposed to be. but nothing about it. honors confederate veterans as the soldiers. nothing. the cemetery that we're going to can i say cemetery, it's not much of a cemetery is just a few grades. but to me this is what our state flag is a file. this is why our flagship remind the site the
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this was originally just a small family cemetery. so railroad tracks are in the same place. those are and they ran from meridian to jackson, around the vicksburg. soldiers died on the train right up here. they didn't even know the names of a so just these are some of the files and who fall and and their families never heard from them again to know where they were buried. what happened to them? this one right here, it says a 6 brave soldier sleep here. so that's kind of feel about it. they were brave, they're honorable. they didn't fight to preserve slavery like fault because their
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home is invited. because their, their stay ask them to and it was honorable thing that the, the of the, how do you say that when, when that cause that you say that they fall. so nobody 4 was girded up by slavery. and then you know, the whole reason for mississippi getting into the civil war, they say very plainly, it's about preserving slavery. this stuff that it goes back
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almost to founding in the structure that the belief that america is white with. and anybody else in the country has the bad down to the white man's room. so it's about white supremacy. it's about power and control. it's about maintaining the status. and any kind of change occurs in this country, where there's progress made towards diversity. is responded to as this is a threat to the white, if we're going to change this flag in some ways white going to have to stand up and step up. and it's gotta have to do this legislation. the last legislative session, there were 19 bills related to the flag the session there 22. all of those bills
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related to change or means by which we could change the flag has been introduced by african american legislators. the bills for in support of the current state fired have all been introduced by white male, conservative legislators in 2001 the people in mississippi voted on a flag and 65 percent of the people voted to keep the current flag. well, i don't think we as elected representatives, have the right to overturn their decision. now, whether you like it or not, we can argue about that. but the decision was made by the people of mississippi to keep the current flag. so do you have a personal feeling about the flag? i personally believe that we should keep the flag. i think that the narrative that any little maurine being there that harkens back to the civil war is somehow racist
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or in support of slavery is just wrong. what we have to do is spend the time to educate every one of or what's the real history. it the, the belief that the flag issue will be settled when we all understand the real history of the civil war is attractive. but which part of the history confederate inherited supporters argue that the civil war was not fought to free the slaves? because abraham lincoln himself subs. so in his original inaugural address, he said, if i could preserve the union for free and all the slaves, i do that i can preserve the union, but for some slight sense, if i can preserve the use of a freight, those keywords preserve him though lincoln was morally opposed to slavery,
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he held common racist police. and then there's the court when amendment amendment was proposed to actually legalize. and i tried to propose it to the southern people to get them to, to join, get back in the union, but they did not, and they didn't want to have any part of it. all had, have been a mile with slavery in the core and amendments would have fixed that because it stated that the south to perpetually keep this peculiar institution which referred to slavery. if they would not succeed from the core. one amendment passed both houses of congress and 18. 61 lincoln in his 1st and all girl address said he would not interfere with it. had the car one amendment been adopted before the civil war began. it would have provided a constitutional protection for slavery. in the united states, and it would have been the 13th amendment,
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the mississippi made it clear that they succeeded to protect slavery. in part because they believe that black people were better suited to work in the oppressive heat or requirements for picking cotton. and some white mississippians fear that emancipation wouldn't just mean economic ruin. it would lead to something they fear, even more racial equality. this was made clear when a commissioner named william l. harris was sent to georgia to persuade them to join mississippi in seceding from the union. and form a southern confederacy of slaveholding states and an address to the georgia general assembly. he said, our fathers made this a government for the white man projecting, and there was an ignorant, inferior barbarian race, incapable of self government. he considered his speech, saying, mississippi would rather see the last of her race. men, women, and children, stimulated in one common funeral pyre, can see them subjugated to the deck,
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redemption of civil, political, and social equality within the race. georgia joined the confederacy. 3 months later with our previous president, there was nothing but a big hey. and it seemed like there was more of a, a war of a race war more space on the was really what it was. this isn't a racial thing, not by any means. and we don't say for anything racial at all, we were out here were standing for southern pride, the wife news, the february with his prize. very well. don't believe that we're going to be able to tom, it set out and everybody finally get this risk because it's like, don't stand for racism is just our heritage. we sit down in a table and hash out the quite
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a come to an understanding that this is the way that we feel, regardless how you feel. you know, the way you feels while you fear we can't change. we're not asking you to change that. we're asking you to come to of a place in your life where you can accept what we do as we accept what you do, what the odds of that happening are slim. and i honestly believe it freedoms. the style is going to allow us, i believe people will relax a little more and that's all right. she tells you religions the united states flag, the flag of 1894 as a symbol of the mississippi that adopted the constitution of 1890 mississippi's governor. at that time, james parliament unabashedly stated mississippi's constitutional convention of 1890
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was held for no other purpose than to eliminate or from politics. like the world know it just as it is. governor of argument also said, if it is necessary, if every oh in the state will be list and it will be done to maintain white supremacy. sometimes your people say, oh, it's just, it is such a bad place. quite frankly, things like that. that's fine. we can stay wherever they are and what this place if i didn't want. ready if you don't find a place where you can raise the state and i can say, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere. you been here for more than a century in the flag is still what it is to me. no, i wanna take the flag away from you can we? i don't trust the car,
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state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the . so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people. the hold on bass of the front lines, the square, the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying. this is where the buildings are exploding the go. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war.
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the i met re stores once before and he said of the to me in that conversation i'd heard from other confederate heritage some orders. but ray was the only one who set it on camera. he had said that slavery was, it was a natural condition. i don't know exactly what i said back then. but i remember the energy, the relationship between the slave and the master wasn't accepted thing and a, it was there was a love between i wanna make sure i understand what you're saying here. and that, that, that the natural range. and you're saying that in united states in mississippi, that it was a natural fit, slavery was natural and that the, in the relationship could be a natural thing, could be yes,
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it could be now that could be people who felt like it was on that type of slaves some of them perhaps so you think would you not them? yeah, i don't think of majority frames for okay. what the position? yes. i just accepted it as a as their station in law. do you see a situation where blacks could be masters to wines? would that be that? would that be no problem? yeah, i think in some cases, you know, i had a, a, a supervisor when i worked at a department store at one time that was blind and lots of orders from him and did what he told me to do. and what you had, your freedom is, do you have your liberty? could you imagine a situation where you were the slave of a black mass? well, let me just say that that's not something that i can just fully comprehend. and
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imagine right here here and your questions that i'd be happy to think about. okay, yeah, i'm just curious. what are those new ways young racks that you fear you sent me to? you might be noticed how much i love america. you made a comment so much that i got my education and now which is i was afraid of it was someone who isn't afraid of someone who is going to come to wherever, how's the bread and we're going to make sure that we get that way. we can make the biggest the said no, we're here because the visa by the spring of 2017 cities and counties throughout the state, had renewed mistake flags from government buildings as well as all a public universities. the and the rallies and public meetings are becoming more
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of the nearby new orleans, a city with a 60 percent black population. the court to just approve the city council's plan to remove 4 prominent confederate statutes from public property, including the monument to jefferson davis, president of the confederacy for confederate heritage, supporters like george. their fears were coming true. confederate monuments were now under attack. their argument is that the statue using the symbols of the southern people are racist and from o y supremacy that is, there are you, we got this guy walk around with the communist flag here in hays,
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going round just talking smack, just walking up people and just calling us white supremacist and racist and everything like that. but we're all willing to protect ourselves. if we feel threatened, we will use our weapons. yes. or if i felt threatened in my life, i started near them, right? i would really be shot now. and this is a cause i'm willing to give them all i for the spring, for years and years. any time i walk around with my state flag, this is the flag a mistake. and i get very sick and tired of being called a racist. and i'm biggest because because i'm proud of where i'm from and it's getting to
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a point where not i'm targeting and we've given we've compromised. we lost a lot that we're not gonna lose anymore. when you're on the right side of history, it's always worth fighting for you don't know about reality that you realize just because you say the really the most presidents i've ever heard in my life. you don't know any of these people in your color. all white supremacy is not here prejudiced on the back up in the shower.
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they're looking for trouble. so they can get us basically kicked out of here, arrested. rake our spirit. but we're not gonna file for you guys, please get them over there and separate them before hits the fan, if you would, we would greatly appreciate. can i not go over on the other side of the street? there's grass over there. they're gonna have a cook out over there, but they're over here trying to instigate us. you see this is rolling the window up on me. please rolling the window. you see that? you just roll the window up on me. all and roll the window. i work more center in your budget number, sir. what's your name? your badge number, what's your name and your badge number? may i get your name? your adviser will not susan, asking for an i'm an advisor. you're supposed to get it. you're a public servant. you say they roll the window, they roll the window, they don't care. there was in trouble. there is
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on the, in response to the violence at the jefferson davis mom. a group of self identified white supremacists and neo nazis gathered at least circle in new orleans where a white civil rights organization, the they were there to protest the plans, removal of a statue of confederate general robert. on this day
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it was impossible to separate confederacy from racist. the 4 days later, the jefferson davis stature was taken down and robert e lee was removed from his pedestal, at least circle the comic sentence. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do i have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead,
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change and whatever you do. don't want marshall stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you i told him the holly were working now. i was going to dreamland for dreams come true. we have approximately 10000000 people in california that are risk of becoming on house looks good man pulls up something for working to pretty jobs and still not enough because of the cost of living also has increased coal bags done deal by just last year long. the amount of of homeless rose by 12 percent in
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