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so give me, so give me for interrupting uh what, what sort of, you know, freedom of religion is with a pillar of democracy and throughout the west where ever you go in the western media sofas. i'm politicians are often our spoke, put on say, scalding the religious liberty. this time however we, there are the new or they, oh that openly supporting the by and why do you think the, the world has turned the back on this community? because the community is still can only kind of connect it to the must go back to it. and there are different babies, very soft thinking. and the conclusion is if a rough some cause and roughly, but also the identity of the targets. so there are no freedom of speech. there
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is no freedom of religion. there is no uh, there shall be no any kind of uh, freedom. uh, which is uh, happening uh in the rest of the world. uh, regarding the uh, freedom of religion. uh because uh, uh, those are the double standards. the subs, sundance. uh should be like pretty nice such uh freedom of religion something its forbid should not be recognized. reference or to anybody connected to restaurants and most of the better. yeah. so we are we just now and the depth is yeah, we are really, very is, i mean is double standards already and uh, always we will see the same hit publish. see what i have to do with this. i like, i like this on the market, which is still there. i'm principal reasons for the institute for recent history of service. a thank you for your time. thank you. a hi. it's
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a lot about some of this news as elizabeth to have your company who boston and settlement i met representative sikes at a rally in washington, d. c. t introduced his dentist while i do. a gallery to mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag, held them by lawrence as i love this. and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion about that i saw this flag and fell in love with it. and i really liked it when i found out that the designer was lauren finish. lauren is the grand daughter of senator john spanish. he represented during the time of jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was okay. is just so important to me, to accept that over time and through the generations of people change on the hip
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hop items are you feel pops when light in and inspires. and i respect honoring your ancestors ion or mine. and that's kind of, i feel where the clash happens because no one's going to back down from that. but i need you to acknowledge the brutality that was carried out under that banner. and once you can do that, then hopefully a dialogue can begin. and we can come to some sort of agreement because i'd rather have you as my neighbor and then my enemy we value the land of mine. and it's nothing more to say the the,
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the, the, it's pretty flag and that's about the extent of it. it does not replace what we have to understand. you know, the 20 stars the significance and what the meaning of that supposed to be. but nothing about it. honors confederate, veterans of the soldiers. nothing. the cemetery that we're going to can i say cemetery, it's not much of a cemetery is just a few grades. but to me this is what our state flag is a file. this is why our flagship or my and the side the
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this was originally just a small family cemetery. bell railroad tracks are in the same place. those are, and they ran from meridian to jackson, around the vicksburg. soldiers died on the train right up here. they didn't even know the names of a so just these are some of the files and who fall and and their families never heard from them again to know where they were buried. what happened to them? this one right here, it says a 6 brave soldier. sleep here. that's kind of feel about it. they were brave. they're honorable. they didn't fight to preserve slavery
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like fault because their home is invited because their, their stay ask them to and it was honorable thing that the, the of the how can you say that when, when that cause that you say that they fall so lovely for was girded up by slavery in doing it on the whole reason for mississippi getting into the civil war. they say very primate,
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it's about preserving slavery. this stuff that goes back almost to our founding fitness. treasury that the belief that america is the white man. and anybody else in the country has to back down to the white man's room. so it's about white supremacy. it's about power and control. it's about maintaining the status quo. and any kind of change occurs in this country, where there's progress made towards diversity. is responded to as it is a. ready to the white, if we're going to change this flag in some ways white going to have to stand up and step up. and it's got to happen to use legislation the last for just slight of session. there were 19 bills related to the flag the session
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there 22. all of those bills related to change or means by which we can change the flag has been introduced by african american legislators. the bills for in support of the current state fired have all been introduced by white male, conservative legislators in 2001 the people of mississippi voted on a flag and 65 percent of the people voted to keep the current flag. well, i don't think we as elected representatives, have the right to overturn their decision. now, whether you like it or not, we can argue about that. but the decision was made by the people of mississippi to keep the current flag. so do you have a personal feeling about the flag? i personally believe that we should keep the flag. i think that the narrative that any little maurine being there that harkens back to the civil war is somehow racist
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or in support of slavery is just wrong. what we have to do is spend the time to educate every one of or what the real history it the, the belief that the flag issue will be settled when we all understand the real history of the civil war is attractive. but which part of the history confederate inherited supporters argue that the civil war was not sought to free the slaves? because abraham lincoln himself said, so in his original inaugural address, he said, if i could preserve the free and all the slaves, i do that i can preserve the union. but for some slight sense, if i could preserve the ease of a free though slight keywords resort,
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invo lincoln was morally opposed to slavery. he held common racist leaks. and then there's the core when amendment amendment was proposed to actually legalize. and i tried to propose it to the southern people to get them to, to join, get back in the union, but they did not. i didn't, they didn't want to have any part of it. all had, have been a mile with slavery in the core and amendments would have fixed that because it stated that the south to perpetually keep its peculiar institution which referred to slavery. if they would not succeed from the union. the corps one amendment passed both houses of congress and 18. 61 lincoln in his 1st and all girl address said he would not interfere with it. had the car when amendment been adopted before the civil war began, it would have provided a constitutional protection for slavery in the united states. and it would have
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been the 13th amendment, the mississippi made it clear that they seceded to protect slavery, in part because they believe that black people were better suited to work in the oppressive heat requirements for picking cotton. and some white mississippians feared that emancipation wouldn't just mean economic ruin. it would lead to something they fear, even more racial equality. this was made clear when a commissioner named william l. harris was sent to georgia to persuade them to join mississippi in seceding from the union. and form a southern confederacy of slaveholding states in an address to the georgia general assembly, he said, our fathers made this a government for the white man projecting, and there was an ignorant, inferior barbarian race, incapable of self government. he considered his speech, saying, mississippi would rather see the last of her race, men, women, and children,
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stimulated and one common funeral pyre, can see them subjugated to the deck, redemption of civil, political, and social equality within the race. georgia joined the confederacy. 3 months later with our previous president, there was nothing but a big hey. and it seemed like there was more of a, a war of a rice for more space on the was was really what it was. this isn't a racial thing, not by any means. and we don't say for anything racial at all, we're out here. we're standing for a southern pri, the news i believe with his prize very well. don't believe that we're going to bill me to tom it set out and everybody finally get this risk because this flag don't stand for racism is just our heritage. we sit down and
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a table in hash out to play. it come to an understanding that this is the way that we feel, regardless how you feel, you know, the way you feels while you for we can't change. so we're not asking you to change that. we're asking you to come to of a place in your life where you can accept what we do as we say of what you do, what the odds of that happening are slim. and i honestly believe it freedoms. the style is going to allow us, i believe people will relax a little more and that's all right. he tells you religions, the 3rd states, flag and flag of 18. $94.00 as a symbol of the mississippi that adopted the constitution of 18. 90 mississippi's governor at that time, james hardaman unabashedly stated mississippi's constitutional convention of 1890
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was held for no other purpose than to eliminate her from politics like the world know it just as it is, governor of argument also said if it is necessary, if every oh in the state will be list and it will be done to maintain white supremacy. sometimes your people say, oh is it is such a bad place? you're not quite frankly, things like that. that's fine. we can stay wherever they are. and what is if i didn't want. ready if you don't like mississippi, find a place where you can be a great mistake. and i can say, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere. you been here for more than a century in the flag is still what it is. let me know. i wanna take the flag away
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from you, can we? i don't trust the car door, but we're talking about these days that represents mississippi. and then what was it all over? the boys. beautiful sun soaked to the vineyards and nestled among some rest, picking up rolling hills. as a gentle breeze comes off of the surrounding sea economy, the imagery of french one country. but this is not france. we are in a coupon at russia on the black sea, where recently they've got a serious about making some world class one the as it talks about how to log in
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to the 2015 samples records that are mostly my r y b
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b y b y the i met re stores once before and he said on the, to me in that conversation i'd heard from other confederate heritage some orders.
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but ray was the only one who set it on. camera viewed said that slavery was, it was a natural condition. well, know exactly what i said back then, but i remember the energy, the relationship between the slave and the master wasn't accepted thing and a, it was there was a love between. i wanna make sure i understand what you're saying here is that, that, that the natural range, and you're saying that in united states in mississippi, that it was a natural fit, slavery was natural and that the, into the relationship could be a natural thing, could be yes, it could be now that could be people who felt like it was on that talk the slaves, some of them perhaps. so you think we just um yeah, i don't think it majority bribes for okay. with the position. yes. i just accepted it as a as their station in law. do you see a situation where blacks could be masters to wines? would that be that?
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would that be no problem? yeah, i think in some cases, you know, i had a, a, a supervisor when i worked at a department store at one time that was blind and not to the orders from him and did what he told me to do. and what you had your freedom, do you have your liberty? could you imagine a situation where you were the slave a glass master? well then let me just say that that's not something that i can just fully comprehend. and imagine right here here and your questions that i'd be happy to think about. okay. yeah, i'm just curious. i'm one of those new ways young you sent me to you maybe noticed how much i love america. you made a comment so much that i got my education, and now i was afraid of it was someone who isn't afraid of someone who's gonna come
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to wherever, how's the bread we're going to make sure that we get this way. we can make the biggest he said no, we're here because the visa funny man by the spring of 2017 cities and counties throughout the state had to renew the state flags from government buildings as well as all a public universities the and the rallies and public meetings are becoming more confrontational, the rather the the
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takes it to take it down to the folks of the people in mississippi. the know this is our home. these are our symbols. what appears to be assigned, but it's also taken, they can do the of the nearby new orleans, the city with
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a 60 percent black population. the court to just approve the city council's plan to remove 4 prominent confederate statutes from public property, including the monument to jefferson davis, president of the confederacy for confederate heritage, supporters like george. their fears were coming true, confederate monuments were now under attack. their argument is that the statues and the symbols of the southern people are racist and from o y supremacy that is, there are you, we got this guy walk around with the communist flag here in hays, going round just talking smack, just walking up people and just calling this white supremacist and racist and everything like that. but we're all willing to protect ourselves. if we feel threatened, we will use our weapons. yes or would you if i felt threatened in my life a certain your name,
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right. i would really and you really to be shot. now what? and this is a cause i'm willing to give my life more comfortable for years and years. any time i walk around with my state flag, this is the flag a mistake. and i get very sick and tired of being called a racist and i'm big it because because i'm proud of where i'm from and it's came to a point where not i'm targeting and we've given we've compromised. we've lost a lot that we're not gonna lose anymore. when you're on the right side
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of history. it's always worth fighting for you don't know about reality that you realize it's just because you say the judge read the most president i've ever heard of my life. you don't know any of these people in your color. all white supremacy is not here prejudiced on the back up in the shower. they're looking for trouble. so they can get us basically kicked out of here, arrested. rake our spirit. but we're not gonna file for you guys, please get them over there and separate them before hits the fan, if you would, we would greatly appreciate. can i not go over on the other side of the street? there's grass over there. they're gonna have a cook out over there,
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but they're over here trying to instigate us. you say this is rolling the window up on me. he's rolling the window. you see that? he just rolled the window up on me all and rolled the window. i weren't more center in your budget number, sir. what's your name? your badge number. what's your name and your badge number? may i get your name and your advisor will not susan, asking for a name and your best number. you're supposed to get it. you're a public servant, you say that roll the window, the roll, the window, they don't care. there was in trouble. there is a fan on the, to the,
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the way you know the history. you read the article, maintaining slavery right? the
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the in response to the
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violence at the jefferson davis monument, a group of self identifying white supremacists and neo nazis gathered at least circle in new orleans organization the they were there to protest the plans, removal of a statue of confederate general robert on this day it was impossible to separate confederates from races the 4 days later, the jefferson davis stature was taken down and
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robert e. lee was removed from his pedestal. at least circle the of the,
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the russians did not have and do not have any positions here in the city center. so the premiums, they have been using little about 5 power to hips, a strictly civilian area on the report from the in, by food. because the reason why i accused painting because my husband was a button. so as the us acknowledges, role in 10, cuz i think when it comes to what their longer term objectives are here, that's something that we're still discussing does isn't any. yeah, voice, so the outrage against you. great. is several west african nathan submitted complaint to you and again steve support the terrace in the region.

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