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as powers allegedly prolongs, but the tension of russians, heck, tycoon on telegram messenger, found that pop elder of reports off his arrest. tidwell, as headlines on saturday evening fronds, however, it's still keeping the details of drew ups the tension. see quart, slight, in respect for the independence of the french and traditional traditional system. now this approach has raised eyebrows in moscow. the funniest thing is that the french foreign ministry commented on the decisions of even the international court of justice without embarrassment. it turns out that it did not respect international law according to the logical french diplomats. i wouldn't even talk about comments on decisions so far and quotes usually parse does not restrain itself. it was how the ground has slammed the rest of it, c o as observed, stressing that be possible as possible due of time. i'll be responsible for the way people use it. dove is allegedly accused of no time to go to the use of private

information because of the box. the telegram found that is reportedly being investigated for complacency in drug trafficking fraud as crimes against children, unless they contribute to rachel moss and outlines the details of the case. and so i just visuals use an arrest warrant that seemed to have been scribbled on the back of a napkin on route to haul a founder of the globally popular online chat out telegram straight off his plane and into custody upon arrival at new bill j airports near paris on saturday nights, russian born pablo draw seriously managed to get french citizenship in 2021 without ever even living here. just 3 years later, the same french government that gifted him with a political shortcut to citizenship is now suddenly accusing him of taking an overly laid back approach. you could say she was platforms content, according to french price reports alleging that he's turn the app into somewhat of

a giant, free for all for assorted scum. appears terrorist and money laundering, drug traffickers, pad files, no explicit mentioned to people who just have opinions that the establishment doesn't, particularly like andrew's online proliferation. european officials are always whining about and threatening these platform operators over public lee the most recent being ex platform owner. eli nice. but someone else did read between the lines and saw that exact issue in all of this because grass was apparently enough to incite the canadian founder of another free speech platform, rumbles, chris pa, blocks key to grab his go bag and get hacked at the dodge. i'm a little late to this, but for good reason, i'm just safer departed from europe. fronts has threatened to rumble, and now they have crossed a red line by arisen telegram seal bible doodle. scrupulously,

for not sense when speech rumble will not stand for these behavior. and will use every legal means available to fight for freedom of expression as universal human rights problems can previously opt into by right. g of lock rumbles access across france rather than sense or content that the french government had asked him to like r t, for example. you're on was seeing a to him that the west really liked for awhile about how he was pressured by the russian government over content control and back door access. and how we basically just flip them off like a big hero who was so badly persecuted that he was never actually arrested or charged with anything in russia as well. telegram is still operational there today, while durham is free to go around the world promoting himself as a professional and victim of russia the even so right in line with the top down you demands the sensor

r t and other russian media outlets at the use request but he had also recently started to change his tune to one that probably wasn't such a crowd pleaser for the western establishment. we got too much attention from the, the, at the i, the security agencies, wherever we came to the us. i brought an engineer that is working for telegram and it was an attempt to secretly hire my engineer behind him and backed by cyber security officers officers. the events of january of the 6 we received a letter from, i believe clinic with many of the democratic sides. and they requested that we would share all the data we had, you know, relation to what they called this uprising letter. it seemed very serious and the letter said, you know, if your fail to comply with this request,

he will be in violation with the us constitution. the hot tapes have been rolling in since durham is arrest. of course, there's no actual proof that this has to do with free speech, but the western establishment does have a nasty habit of cloaking its authoritarian tendencies in national security or serious criminality. which basically makes it impossible the rule of that being the case here as well. and once they get access or control over one thing, they have it for every thing. so based on prior reporting out of germany and the netherlands telegram has been responsive to court orders for disclosure of information on national security grounds in here limited cases of immediate threat to life. but there's no shortage of people watching all of this right now. i'm thinking that that might just be a way to use course and to push open the window. busy to

a lot more cooperation from the apps and they, the authorities normally would be able to get otherwise p, o v. it's 20, so it's in europe and you'll being executed for liking a mean using allied countries to circumvent 1st amendment protections is the new rendition. the arrest of durham is an assault on the basic human rights of speech and association. i am surprised and deeply saddened that my crime has descended to the level of taking hostages. as a means for gaining access to private communications. it lowers, not only france, but the world makes you wonder how government ever managed to investigate crimes before mobile apps and the internet came along if they're so desperate to rely on them to figure out what's going on. american officials are constantly whining about facebook found mark was dr. burke not doing enough about sex pass on his ass like he's responsible for every creep on line. and i guess durham was now in that same

basket. zachary has never been arrested though. maybe it's just a coincidence, he also bends the ne, whenever asked, by the establishment. a couple of dozen western backs and use are pretty quick to denounce an order blocking telegram as free speech interference when it was a russian court issuing its. it'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to react this time when it's france, a prominent member of the western establishment that's leading the charge. let's discuss the topic with human on labor rights lawyer down cuz i like now i'm, it's a good valid lubbock see things to coming on the program. let's just talk about how extraordinary this case already is even before we find out the status of a pavel and what's going on with a friend to authorities. because we know that the, you and us government have some and questions and leaders of other social media funds before, but we rarely see a major tech leader arrested of what takes place on this side. so i want to ask you

why through of why now, and ultimately what president does this says? well, i think we have to look at this in the context of other things that are happening. there was a new york times article several days ago that says the f b i is engaged in a wide ranging investigation in 2 individuals in the united states who have worked with russian news outlets like our take. and um in scott ritter was mentioned of course the f b i rated is home. uh the api i claims that it's trying to stop rushing interference of the 2024 election. of course, we know that the claims about the legs getting their parents a russian to 2016 elections were a fraudulent and but what we see is a new mccarthy period where they're trying to go after decision voices. and again, i think we need to see this arrest in the context of this broader effort by

intelligence agencies to go after addition invoices. i spoke to russian and pay. maria boots and i guess today about this case and she seemed very confident that this was a case of rust, a phobia. would you agree with that? sure. you know, is it a coincidence that the one ceo of the social media platforms who's arrested as a russian of course, one has to believe that this is rush of o b and again, the new york times article, specifically talked about a legend. agents of russia being under investigation. well of course the i looked at in the living room are a legit agents of israel and a pack, you know, which is pretty much all congress and the president vice president as well. and of course, none of those people were being investigated. uh, so, of course, and it has to be pointed out, by the way, under the capitalist system, there was a corporate bail, meaning that officers of corporation are generally not found liable for the

actions of the corporations. they have a certain insulation from that. of course, the idea being that they're not personally responsible for everything the corporation does going after someone uh like, uh, the pop out door is like going after the us postmaster general. because people use the us mail to commit crimes, which of course they do every day. we know they do, of comm, beheld for up to $96.00 by the french or, or sees depending on the seriousness of the criminal accusation. so we're still waiting to hear more from what exactly is going on. but russian officials have claimed that soldiers are using tele ground for various tasks on the front line because the app has this safe encryption system, something that fronts might once a guess around. what repercussions could that be? a power continues to support kids by cracking telic ramos and well, i mean,

the biggest implication is for free speech around the world. a lot of people like myself used telegram so that we can have what we at least believe to be private communications with people over a host of issues. all which by the way, in the case of me and in all my friends are legal. but we want private communications, which of course, we all have a right to. and we have a right of expectation of that. we learned, of course, uh, from the edward snowden, that most of our communications are not private, but in the case of telegram, we hope that was the case. but now of course, they're going to try to shut down even the privacy on sources like telegrams. so i mean, that is what i'm concerned about the most as we expect there of might be under pressure us from differential authorities to give them access to the contents of the telegram. which way do you think things will good?

because if he does agreed to share information, it really spells a lot for the future of freedom of expression and freeze preacher space across the world. if he doesn't, he might be in prison for a very long time. which way do you think things will swing? well honestly, i don't know enough about him personally, you know, it would take some moral courage for him to stand up to this. i hope he does. he would have to have the moral fiber of somewhere, like julian massage, who was willing to go to jail for a number of years to defend the right to disseminate, very critical information to the world. let's hope that he has that courage. a back in 2018 when russian officials faced in maintenance of back to the us for trying to gain access to telegrams through legal that means public. europe was allowed to leave russia and obtain fresh citizenship. but now that he's been arrested in europe,

major organizations and space and spoke up last time of being very silence. how is this situation different to it's not different. i mean, it's just a double standard. i mean, we're saying that of course, in the case of guys of the west talks about human rights and there's no place in the world where human rights are being violated in a worse way than gaza. but of course, the west not only doesn't condemn that, it's actually supporting it with weapons in other support. so this is just another case of double standards of hawk or c. and i hope the rest of the world sees that the search. so many thanks to speaking to us today. we've been talking to john cuz i like human on the labor right story. i thank you. thank you. on that, on the on line, we thought you have the symbol on how prominent russian media and political figures have reacted to the rest of the title durham. you can head out the smells, looks like the kids cross down on

you training orthodox church follow is, is ramping up one of the countries and pays who launched. bounce that the religious ban was late. the accused of a sold ukrainian law enforcement officer even claims his family. it was almost kidnapped as they fled to your someone tried to kidnap my family, my mother and my wife and 2 small children were almost kidnapped from a hotel in europe yesterday. after the 1st unsuccessful attempts and the measures we took, they tried again at the airport. let's find out most of my correspondent marina costs are over. now, marina, thanks for coming into the studio. so let's start with this. these claims of attempted cape, nothing. what do we know so far about this is everything we know is based on the statement that art sounds me trick posted on his telegram channel. yes, he claims that there wasn't a ton, said kid, nothing that took place somewhere in europe. we didn't, we don't know where exactly you crazy and the, the claims that he fled the country,

viola, that's all we know. and he claims our tons to be true on his telegram channel states that local police apparently have been alerted and that they have the names and card details of the perpetrators and that some form of an investigation is underway . but he claims that the cameras team is behind it. and the reason why they did this is because of his stones on the cranium polymers adopting this bill, which basically bands the russian length, orthodox church of the ukraine. so and of course a millions of ukrainians are part of the church. so of course, the subset many people, including this somebody who was very, very vocal in parliament when they were considering that there were near portions was a big issue today that ukrainian parliament has made a fatal mistake by voting in favor of banning the ukrainian orthodox church and this mistake, without any doubts, it will cause tragic consequences for the entire ukrainian people. no loss can

prevent us from frame visiting temples, defending our fate. there are no obstacles to this, just as there were none for the lord. now shortly after that his sled and the criminal case was opened into him legally crossing the border, but that's on top of and all the criminal case. and that one is in regards to his altercations with law enforcement officers. one was in key of another one was in odessa now to be true claims that all these cases were fabricated. buys the lensky team because they want him out and they want to punish him for his belief. basically. so besides being passionately opposed to this recent found on the orthodox church, what more do we know about this month? or he started when he came from the world of sports and security. and he really answered politics in 2019 from odessa. at one point, he was even parts of a salon skis party, but then who was quickly dismissed, i guess because his views that on the line with the landscape. and we'll save time

and time again that ukrainian nationalists were really against them because of certain actions that they deemed as pro russian. for example, he was one of the people who laid flowers to the victims of the old desktop mastercard, ukrainian nationalist. there understand what he had to do that after all, it was pro russians separate sisters, the sort who died. so why are you laying flowers to them? they're the enemy. he didn't agree with that. then we have again, this february, he actually posted the fail from one of the place to was the same for spewing rupture propaganda. apparently the data like that because he's helping out a police who happens to perhaps agree with ross and some way shape or form. he saw this is purely something religious and that, that matt needs to be supported. then we have the course of incursion disaster. and he also spoke out about that and he'd be true. and on his telegram channel, he said that ukrainian soldiers was separating monuments that they were making fun of the elderly. the. busy locals in the course that there were also stealing from

them, stealing from shops then just spoke out against this bill. so of course everything was same 0 when it goes down well with the cube machine and he believes that this is them trying to honda sim and this is how he solved off how he'd be used to spaces. today's events are just more proof that the current government just giving out the systemic and cynical persecution of all those who have the courage to oppose their dictates. i am called the traitor only because they do not bogged down to the authorities and did not keep silence when in just this occurs. so it was the word from officials in k of and all this. well, officials are not saying anything right now and tm, bob zelinski did announce a meeting with law enforcement officers asked about to discuss those who fled. he didn't mention this m p by name, but those in the know claim that this is exactly what this is about. and they want to find the way to punish those who fled let's, let's just conclude should regarding those who work against all state traits is to

ukraine, who help russian aggression to justify the slide. you frame finding some responsibility . all state needs to clear on says about such people that we have responsibility so that all these come rates get what they do is uh, wherever they hide and wherever they run the people. we're waiting now for a continuation of this case either on the matrix telegram channel or he seems to be posting all the updates has that happened to him or something, at least from the officials in ukraine, about this case about him in particular, marina many thanks to bring his up to speed on the story. i appreciate it. marina comfortable. we spoke with the very referent doctor, restore the joe di, profess of theology at the university of easton, san diego. he says the state persecution of the canonical orthodox church is a heavy blow to his followers. i am not expecting any browser condemnation or any problem rather attention to christian media in, in inverse the verse. and a lot of the reason i saw so that generally the russian culture, russian church,

russian orthodoxy is actually been an i is the printer authorities. they have a loss for everything they do. and i think generally, you should just need to go back a couple of decades uh earlier and to see that from the newly formed stage of view ukraine, the 9th, nice to up to the recent science. ukrainian nationalism is a longstanding project. and all of these parts are forms in c to this, so called you out of tours. a few cree dear. the most tried to bridge and some of the initiative parts of ukraine society, one of these so called churches you can also set for the source of church image. and it's, and when i search one stage, one language, the problem was that up to this moment, local authorities, especially investment stuff for a new cree dish about actually sent me officially prosecuted the kind of wrong

culture. but it was never done on the state level on the state of, on the, on the level of the brain and fireman. so now when it is became a low, it generally, we have one can only go charge, which is generally all close. and all of all the, all its members, they would generally phase not only uh, not the only rates in your sources before. it goes to each one of them can basically produce any kind of the prosecution as these ukrainians the state before . that means that generally you would have no legal process in which you could defend yourself or, or prove yourself, does not feel the up to west africa. now while locals implicate a fall, so have rallied against ukraine, support the minutes in groups in the region are flexing. why the sentiment across the soho demonstrates the cues cab of backing terrorists with support from ne,

so from in particular, they want the country to set a ties with ukraine. following the lead of molly and me just protest is also back to request 5 to 3. so whole states for the un security council to take measures against ukraine, support for insurgency forces in africa. i'll say correspondence going to be a kind of guy picks up the story for it is the people in fact. so the reason behind all of this is as you information and facts have come to lights about you crazy. i'm fine and single to rest in the region in late life boxes from the back and improve a company to the modern army in watts. it'd be mounted in a stabilizing operation. the town often vouching near the o david buddha, that mission quickly went sideways. when fighting broke out between that commission ad rebels from the to r a who put an end retreat back 9, martin forces were ambushed by the militants. about 80 full vac now and $45.00

models. soldiers were killed in the fighting ukraine. submitted st agents at that time was very quickly to claim responsibility evidence due to the official postponed to the fact that the rebels received the necessary information that allowed them to conduct a successful operation against wash and war criminals. the whole world has already seen this in principle, this can be commended on. we certainly will not disclose in details, but let's say there will be a continuation. this is sensitive information. therefore, everything that you clean does is happening within the limits and within the framework of international law, taking into account all the necessary procedures. as i said, a kid has back tracked on it states me. so in fact, that both now looks closer to a defeat for kids after the governor's office looking at fossil mind, the i use the road to the, to the not to be. so the security council demanding it to denounce you. crazy electric pool to offer people seeing the so how region and it was off to see that

tomorrow the m e z cut, if the magic ties between a fossil condemning, divide into tax, the ad echo expressing its strong disapproval off your praise, the tax that was the reason pushing ukraine to start denying its involvement, but the damage had already been done. and this the health states wouldn't run buying into those lies, haven't listened to this. this is official and unequivocal support by the creating government for terrorism in africa, particularly leading us to help this x also constitute a violation of the sovereignty and through tauriel. integrity of our states include aggression and support for international terrorism and flagrant violation of the charter of the united nations and the relevant international conventions. you know, according to an odyssey sauce, just before the attack and marty the, to our rig rebels visited ivory coast with they apparently mitchell with the ukranian intelligence ad received parts offer drones that was sent to evey using

diplomatic main. that's even, there's even a report from my job, a molly and publication telling us that i've read close to has more sent investigation against the training in the scene, obviously on following suspicions off the involvement just to come back to took your max rather in minutes. see training activities. now this is at the end investigation that is taking place during a very intense context. which is also marked by the recent condemnation by modeling is a and became a fossil off your praise hold for an ad. i seem to support the potential risk. we've seen this a house. there's also words on social media car and feed back to the recent opening off your trade in the season. part of the african continent, particularly in ivory coast, is quite possibly given that ukraine is in the middle of a conflict. now, speculation is mounting over the possibility that the embassy in

ivory coast was opened as a supplier to for, to risk in this the house reach. and you are left to wonder if all these, as the embassies that have been opened by ukraine, would be doing the same thing on the african continent as well. but we spoke with hon. african is, i don't know, gone, but the 2nd to it was a 20239. jerry and presidential hopeful. he says ukraine is coming out the west imperialist agenda in west africa. it is a green, specifically image. and it's given both means in the crises, especially in i'm supporting drawings in this, i have this, especially when do you solve this problem? but some of you clean in between intelligence. i don't see what i said, but i king when what categories caught in auto financial the, to a local media to be made and don't strongly do support the assistance model in the corner in the idea of the country. i'm great yourself, kim o,

hopefully use space center, but it seems that the workmen and windows are due to it wouldn't be effective into the one. it's meant to london space of ukrainian or pollution in west africa. so it's troy and once again that they're fighting to find the defeated, creative defeated workshop, you know, between the cleaning of worship grades and they're trying to transfer the curtis into the minute into decide where i would go. it's likely ukraine is training toners in which i will go to new. it'd be a, maybe 3 or positions you know that to this now place, worship, your was your name for years and we're number go, i think is came for a live a wonderful point to the spectacle. i knew it sounds like it just something that we need to know. i mean the to do my guy. he's greenhouse in the kitchen. it's interesting. all the woodson imperialist. nobody's agenda english on the whole. tied in and create a topple in order to supplant ocean employees in your department that defeated

their turn to look at another area where it will show how significant influence and that is with norfolk. so when you grade is trying to do is to do nothing worse than if you did. it is blue. one is i did that even with africa, the russian defense ministry has concerned a tax targeting ukraine's critical energy and infrastructure and the military industrial complex. meanwhile, report was coming from ukraine's a key of the hydro electric power station has been damaged, according to the media, the dams roadway and to find room has been effective, postage along with them as being temporarily closed in both directions. you of the, of more details on the story and everything else. and guess what website are the dot com for more of the latest news updates you can do and make another yeah, the

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