it is this idea that everybody is deserve, and then just by virtue absorbing here the bronze finally break, the silence. the telegram chief, the read claiming is not a political decision in the world community or to this terrorist, the very thing a plane. and he has to be getting spawning the orthodox church and within force deflate the someone to try to take not his family want in your protests throughout to indicate a phone. so again, to find the assistance to militant groups in west, the very will welcome to you is 6 pm here in moscow, and this is on the international with the wells. news updates is always good to

have you with us. a top story this out. it's been almost 2 days since the telegram ceos, a rest in front and bronze powers has finally broken its silence. as of the case of the global outrage, president of a cron praised his country for championing is freedom of speech, insisting that there are no political motives folder of arrest. while the administration of telegram issued a statement, quoting for durham was released on slimy the case against him. as quote observes, he's reported leads you to be formally charged by french. we'll start with, he says, a series of alleged crimes on his social media platform is all power space contributes a right to mazda and we've had take on the control offices to. so french officials used an arrest warrant that seemed to have been scribbled on the back of a napkin on route to hall and founder of the globally popular online chat out telegram straight off his plane and into custody upon arrival at new bill j airport,

near paris on saturday night, russian born pablo gerard seriously managed to get freedom citizenship in 2021 without ever even living here, just 3 years later, the same french government, they gifted him with a political short, cactuses and check, is now suddenly accusing him of taking an overly laid back approach, you could say she was platforms content, according to french price reports alleging that he's turn the app into somewhat of a giant, free for all for assorted scum appears terrorist money laundering, drug traffickers, pad files, uh no exclusive mention of people who just have opinions that the establishment doesn't, particularly like andrew's online proliferation. european officials are always whining about and threatening these platform operators over public li the most recent being x platform owner eli must. but someone else did read between the lines

and saw that exact issue in all of this, because stress was apparently enough to incite the canadian founder of another free speech platform rumbles chris pub. lots key to grab his go bag and get the heck of the dodge. i'm a little late to this, but for good reason. i'm just safer, departed from europe. france has threatened to rumble, and now they have crossed a red line by arisen telegram seal bible doodle. scrupulously, for not sense when speech rumble will not stand for these behavior and will use every legal means available to fight for freedom of expression, a universal human rights problem. he previously opted to buy it right. g of lock rumbles access across france rather than sense or content that the french government had asked them to like r t. for example, jerome was seeing a to that the west really liked for awhile about how he was pressured by the russian government over content control and back door access. and how we basically

just flip them off like a big hero who was so badly persecuted that he was never actually arrest sooner. charged with anything in russia as well. telegram is still operational there today, while durham is free to go around the world, promoting himself as a professional victim of russia. durham even sell right in line with top down you demands the sensor r t and other russian media outlets at the request. but he had also recently started to change his tune to one that probably wasn't such a crowd pleaser for the western establishment. we got too much attention from the, the, at the i, the security agencies, wherever we came to the us. i brought an engineer that is working for telegram and it was an attempt to secretly hire my engineer behind him and backed by cyber

security officers officers. the events of january of the 6 we received a letter from i believe. uh, congressman. yeah, i'll send you the credit side and they requested that we would share all the data we had in relation to what they called this uprising letter seemed very serious. and the letter said, you know, if your fail to comply with this request, he will be in violation with the us constitution. the hard case has been rolling in since durham is arrest. of course, there is no actual proof that this has to do with free speech. but the western establishment does have a nasty habit of cloaking its authoritarian tendencies in national security or serious criminality. which basically makes it impossible the rule of that being the case here as well. and once they get access or control over one thing,

they have it for every thing. so based on prior reporting out of germany and the netherlands telegram has been responsive to court orders for disclosure of information on national security grounds in here limited cases of immediate threat to life. but there's no shortage of people watching all of this right now. i'm thinking that that might just be a way to use course and to push open the window. busy to a lot more cooperation from the app, then they, the authorities normally would be able to get otherwise p, o v. it's 20, so it's in europe and you'll being executed for liking a mean using allied countries to circumvent 1st amendment protections is the new rendition. the arrest of durham is an assault on the basic human rights of speech and association. i am surprised and deeply saddened that my crime has descended to the level of taking hostages. as a means for gaining access to private communications. it lowers, not only france,

but the world makes you wonder how government ever managed to investigate crimes before mobile apps and the internet came along, if they're so desperate to rely on them to figure out what's going on. american officials are constantly whining about facebook found marcus, doctor bird, not doing enough about sex. pass on his apps like he's responsible for every tree phone line and i guess garage is now in the same basket. zachary has never been arrested though. maybe it's just a coincidence. he also bends the ne, whenever asked, by the establishment, a couple of dozen western backs and g o is, are pretty quick to denounce an order blocking telegram as free speech interference when it was a russian port issue. and yet, it will be interesting to see how long it takes them to react this time when it's france, a prominent member of the western establishment that's leading the charge. meanwhile, the indian governments,

as opposed to the investigating telegram suspicions of the legs misuse and criminal activity and much this was the last 2 dash it last time. and they got a lawyer at the see print codes of india to discuss this further. many thanks for joining us on the program. first of all, were you surprised to see that new delhi is now also going off the telegram? i don't do the suppression of surprise, but the issue is the. busy busy voice which could be made on the device make a new laws in our investigation is fine for the investigation is. busy established there is a body shop in the us, the idea that media and the vision stream there. and so as a follow up in to be interesting. see. but then he graham is by and can do as far as the investigation establishes one village of the star. busy

thomas bar friday. busy no need to worry if they have, i understand the process going to be down there. but the dimension is given to the, the, the 2 doctors, most of the kids. thank you. and they $719.00 the burdens there. there's no, there's something on the gravel just decides there's i personally in the jumping out at the front end of the course which i've had and their father urgent care. he said to you as an investigator, better be got big spar calling the gym to insure the investigation and, and do not know if any of you can shut off the legs. come in at a time when mister dor off is already being held in front once he made, cuz the timing student starts and then so it's an independent let's say to talk about it. and then there's do one being just bumped yet. it is.

it's a very popular back fall under the competitors also. and so far as timing is concerned, what is important is uh what districts you spend 1215 the 4 digit related to you. just don't think it is because i didn't you getting to and then it for the one other question was did you get your message? i would have put it up, you know, word as 11 and the last that the. busy question is done or justice stevens to define the is the items jenny started because the choice of your 1st choice of any going with it. yeah. so it does have a 2nd, but since the french. busy they have a new one, lincolnton patricia. nice. there is an artist when the boss and the students are going to be persons, drugs. and i believe

a 13 mr. go has the ip settings because i'm spending 10 wires of their distribution in french ports of ball. so that's the logic, something that came up. awesome. so then you know, the, you know, those investigations and other aspects is going on with the speech and i, yeah, yeah, that's the thing is that this whole control of the say around a telegram is really opened his kind of one, save the online sense of shape and freedom of expression, do you think it's possible to impose restrictions? the name of security will still giving people the right to speak freely a very it depends on the laws. the used are very different. even some of the looking good. there's a different version of the same, as i said, is the laws of dispatch bowman but missed this. then the thought of these beverly. so i live in the international context and the last various other countries,

the. busy the sar major dungeon talked to me prior to the advisory board and uh, is that the institution it just because you started younger constraint and it turned into the block and crossing side sent website depending on the get it straightened on, such a goal and then no one else can see that have to be searching for the power and the, the 3rd block you get in a person. so the, so either way, thanks for speaking to us today. i really appreciate your time and your insides into the mass. i've been talking to dash, what time the young lawyer at the supreme court of india, buddy, thanks bolona and online. we've got you covered full on how prominent russian media and political figures have reacted to the rest of paddle durham. you can head over to our website all t dot com the he adds clock down on the

ukrainian orthodox church. follow is, is wrong, pink up. one of the countries and piece it was last downtown. the religious band was late to accused of a soul sing, ukrainian law enforcement officer. he then claims his family was almost kidnapped as they fled to europe. someone tried to kidnap my family, my mother and my wife and 2 small children were almost kidnapped from a hotel in europe yesterday. after the 1st on successful attempts and the measures we took, they tried again at the airport. as everything we know is based on the statements of that ard sounds we took, posted on his telegram channel. yes, he claims that there wasn't, that's, hadn't said a kid, nothing that took place here somewhere in europe. we didn't, we don't know where exactly you crazy in the the claims that he fled the country, viola. that's all we know, and he claims our time to be true on his telegram channel states that local police apparently have been alerted and that they have the names and car details of the

perpetrators. and that's some form of an investigation is underway. but he claims that the cameras team is behind it. and the reason why they did this is because of his stones on the cranium polymers adult thing. this bill which basically bands the russian length, orthodox church of the ukraine. so and of course the millions of ukrainians are part of the trip. so of course the subset many people, including the somebody who was there, is very vocal a parliament when they were considering this. your cousins boss was able to d that you create environments, has made a fatal mistake by voting in favor of banning the ukrainian orthodox church. and this mistake, without any doubts, will cause tragic consequences for the entire ukrainian people. it is no loss can prevent us from praying visiting temples, defending our fate. there are no obstacles to this similar just as there were none for the lord. so shortly after that he fled and the criminal case was open to him and legally crossing the border. but that's on top of and all the criminal case,

and that one is in regards to his altercations, law enforcement officers, one was in k of another. one was in odessa. now to the truth claims that all these cases were fabricated by zalinski. see, it says save on him mouse and they want to punish him for his spelling space. so besides being passionately opposed to this, we soon found on the orthodox church. what more do we know about this month? well, he started, uh, he came from the world of sports and security, and you've really answered politics in 2019 from odessa, one point he was even the parts officer lensky is party. but then who was quickly dismissed, i guess because his views that in the line was the landscape. and we'll save time and time again that ukrainian nationalists were really against them because of certain actions that they deemed as pro russian. for example, he was one of the people who laid flowers to the victims of the old. that's something mastercard, explaining a nationalist there, understand what he had to do that after all,

it was pro russian separate suspect besides who died. so why are you laying flowers to them? they're the enemy. he didn't agree with that. then we have again, this february, he actually posted the bail for one of the places who was detained for stealing roster, propaganda. apparently they didn't like that because he's helping out a police who happens to perhaps agree with russia in some way, shape or form. he saw this is purely something religious and that that man needs to be supported. then we have the course concurs and disaster, and he also spoke out about that and he knew true. and all of his telegram channel, he said that ukrainian soldiers would separating monuments, that they were making fun of the elderly. the locals in the course that there were also stealing from them stealing from shops, then he spoke out against his bill. so of course everything was saying there really goes down well with the cube machine and he believes that this is them trying to punish him. and this is how he summed up how he can use this case. today's events are just more proof that the current government just gearing out the systemic and

cynical persecution of all those who have the courage to oppose their dictates. i am called the traitor only because they do not bogged down to the authorities and did not keep silent when injustice occurs. officials are not saying anything right now and key of bod zillow. steve did announce a meeting with a law enforcement officers after that to discuss those who fled, he didn't mention this m p by name. but those in the know claim that this is exactly what this is about. and they want to find a way to punish those who fled physical food should regarding those who work against all state traits is to ukraine, to help russian aggression to justify it will be flight. you frame fighting from responsibility. all state needs clear on says about such people that we are responsibility need so that all these comm rates get what they deserve, wherever they hide, and wherever they run, the police were waiting. now for a continuation of this case, either on the troops telegram channel or he seems to be posting all the updates has that happened to him or something, at least from the officials in ukraine,

about this case about him in particular we spoke would be very reverend doctor, we stopped joe, go, profess, feel that you at the university of east in san diego, he stays the stage post occasion of the canonical orthodox church is a heavy blow to his followers. and i'm not expecting any broder condemnation or any pro brother attention to christian media in investment for and a lot of the reason i saw so that generally the russian culture russian tourist russian orthodoxy is actually been an ice. be great, you know, it's, or if you have a loss for you everything they do, and i think generally you should just need to go back a couple of decades uh earlier and to see that from the newly formed stage of view . you crazy. nice, nice to up to the recent science. ukrainian nationalism is

a longstanding project and all of these parts are formed and you do this so called you out of tours. a few cree dear. the most tried to bridge and some initiative parts of the print society follow these so called church as you can also set for the source of church had it needs and it's amber and church one state one language . the problem was that up to this moment, local authorities especially best for a sub, for a new cree dish and actually sent me officially prosecuted. the come around and culture, so it was never done on the state level on the state of, on the, on the level of the brain and fireman. so now when it became a low, it generally we have one and only to charge which is generally all close. and all of all its members, they would generally phase not only uh, not only raise their sources before it goes to each one of them,

can basically face any kind of the prosecution as the ukrainians the state before. that means that generally you would have no legal process in which you could defend yourself or, or prove yourself, does not feel the so to west africa, where locals indicate a fall. so have rallied against ukraine, supports and militant groups in the region for flexing a way to send some of the across the saw how the demonstrate to the kids have a bad thing. terrorists with support from nato phones in particular. they want the country to serve as ties with ukraine, following the lead of molly and the process is also back to request by the 3 sahu states for the un security council. to diagnose it as we go through principles for insurgency forces enough, perhaps i'll say correspondence. malibu, yeah. congress takes us to store it is the people in fact. so the reason behind all of this is, as you information and facts have come to lights about you crazy financing of

terrorist in the region, in late july faxes from the vacuum to prove a company this, the modern army in watts, it'd be more than a stabilizing operation, the town of turns out to near the o. gibbon border that mission quickly when sideways, when fighting broke out between that commission ad rebels from the to our with who put, i mean, which treat to zack 9 model and forces were ambushed by the militants about 80 full vac now and $45.00 models. soldiers were killed in the fighting ukraine submitted st agents at that time was very quickly to claim responsibility evidence into the bishop of funds to the fact that the rebels received the necessary information that allowed him to conduct a successful operation against the wash and war criminals. the whole world has already seen this in principle, this can be commended on. we certainly will not disclose any details, but let's say there will be a continuation. this is sensitive information. therefore,

everything that you green does is happening within the limits and within the framework of international law. taking into account all the necessary procedures is, which is what you have has back tracked on it statement. in fact, that both now looks closer to a to see for cave, off to the governor's office looking across. so mind the, i use the road to, to the not to be so the security council demanding it to denounce ukraine's electric support to offer able i'm seeing this, the whole region. and it was off to seeing that tomorrow the and the zip code for magic ties between a fossil condemning divide into tax ad april 6th, pressing it strong disapproval off you praise the taxes. that was the reason pushing ukraine to start denying its involvement. but the damage had already been done, and the so health gates would not buying into those lies have a listen to this. this is official and unequivocal support by the creating

government for terrorism in africa, particularly in us to help this x also costs us through the violation of a sovereignty entered tauriel integrity of our states include regression and support for international terrorism and flagrant violation of the charter of the united nations and the relevant international conventions. you know, according to an odyssey sauce, just before the attack and marty the, to our rig rebels visited ivory coast with a, apparently mid to with the ukraine and intelligence ad received parts offer um drones that was sent to evey using um, diplomatic made. that's even this even a report from my job, a molly and publication telling us that i've read close to has more sent investigation to gaze, recreating and in the scene obviously on following suspicions off the involvement of different mac, 2 different match, rather in military training activities. now this is an investigation that is taking

place during a very intense context, which is also marked by the recent condemnation by modeling the se, and putting a fossil off your phrase, hold for an ad. i seem to support the potential risk groups into the house. there's also words on social media car and feed back to the recent openings of your train in the season. part of the african continent, particularly in ivory coast, is quite possibly given that ukraine is in the middle of a conflict. now, speculation is mounting over the possibility that the embassy in ivory coast was opened as a supply who to for, to get a risk in this the house region. you live to wonder if all these, as the embassies that have been opened by ukraine, would be doing the same thing on the african continent as well as the on rest. and as a whole region rages on, this, denmark has announced is closing its embassies in molly advocate a fall. so we spoke with pon african as to down the gone for the 2nd. he was 2023

nigeria and presidential hopeful. and he says, ukraine is pursuing the west imperialist agenda in west africa as 0 gives up the region. it is a green, specifically image of the it's given both means in the crises, especially if i'm supposed to draw it. is it just i have this, especially when do you solve this problem? but some of you clean in between intelligence and you'll see what was today, but it came when flooded charges cutting out a push on the, to a local media to be made on google. i strongly do support the system model in the corner in the idea of total, just leaving the country. i'm going to yourself, kim o, hopefully or use ex space. so the windows, you don't need what defective into the one, it's meant to london space of you put in your position in west africa. so it's showing you. and once again, that despite the fact that the i defeated declarative defeated, your shop,

you know, um, but during the cleaning of which i gradually got trying to transfer the cartridge, implemented into deciding whether i would go it's likely ukraine is training to it is important. i will go to continue with the positions in order to this now place worship, there was a new version was over got, i think is came for a live, a wonderful quentin. the spectacle i knew was awful. it's just something that we need to know. i mean the, my guy, he's green house in the kitchen. it's interesting how the woodson imputed nobody's agenda, you know, show the whole time what's the go and create trouble in order to supplant ocean employees in your department. i defeated their turn to look at another area where it will show how significant influence and that is with africa. so what do you great is trying to do is to what do you know one wisdom if you did it is blue. one is i didn't even with the go the, you isn't able to secure energy supplies for its members. sides makes lights of the

node stream pipeline bombing in 2022. as according to hungary, as foreign affairs minister who launch styles of the blocks are staying silent. as ukraine cuts off supplies of crude oil to hungry on slovakia, a. maggie who thought you were seeing you has been specially weekend because it is unable to protect 2 of its members states from a candidates on such an important issue as damages of life. but is also not without presidents, because for years the eu has been making fun of the fact that the significant part of the infrastructure guaranteed you are secure and it just supplied was blowing up as a positive a terrorist attack, which we did just a nation of north stream, as if it's never happened. there was no prob investigation, we don't consider at least an investigation. they cannot make us believe that to dive in instructors with 3 issues asked if students blew up notes treatment. it was a terrorist attack. and if a state was also involved, which is closer to reality than some davis, that means it was

a state funded state organized active terrorism. so when you move out for the past top, diplomats accuse the european commission of sabotaging supplies of crude oil flowing from russia. caving brussels, instructed kids to pose challenges and problems in the energy sex of his country ons, neighboring slovakia. early this year a key of hold to the transitive crude by russian company lou coil. so they to us the pipeline. so i think its own sanctions on the entity joins as a result of both hungary on slovakia were left in limbo. the price of oil previously delivered by the russian companies through ukraine. the address bar, also known as friendship pipeline, is one of the biggest crude oil and networks in the well, it's southern bronze, which goes from russia. we're by the roost on to ukraine. and one is one of the vital energy routes for european states to find the book lens, the list of sanctions against most goes so far, deliveries to all of russian food, all 3 pipelines has been exempt. however,

the latest moved by key f as both back to is a question leaving the here with 1000, not the energy source following been know what the stream last georgia saw me will . a senior research fellow with the global policy institute stays the year with winning when actually choosing to turn a blind on for the year. being commission is uh, it is under the logical uh, commission. and uh, it is uh, driven by a policy that in no way helps the way the welfare of the citizens of the you. if it wanted to help hungry on slack at the he has all the tools and its boxed to. um, to put some pressure on you crating, it isn't doing it, it's made quite clear that it's not going to get involved in this. so clearly, as you can see, auto is right, which is the, uh, the you, um is maybe behind all of this. so nato,

which clearly um, is uh, committed to the strategy of inflicting a strategic defeat on russia is imposing that policy on to the european union. and so that's, that's what the european union is committed to when it comes to north stream. that the europeans do not want to investigate this matter. because they made each way shape or form. because of course, if they embark on an investigation, they will find that the property of that is primarily responsive. busy fully sabotage of the north stream pipelines was the use great ally and then effect of the united states to the middle east. now west c, a muslims across the region have joined the all by unit pilgrimage. the important religious events most.