again, probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way inside. the fran sufficiently slap telegram sale with 12 criminal charges into the income close to the intro and profit gain and the distribution of sexual content on this platform. facebook global outrage and accusations of sensor step harris claim hovel throughout the rest is not politically motivated. a crate in m p who voted against hispanics, the orthodox church, and was then forced to please. so someone tried to kidnap his family while you're in, protest to rob inverse, you know, fall. so against the craze, assistance of the militant group in west africa, the, you're watching

r t international. i'm rachel ruble live in the russian in the capital. it's been almost 2 days now since the telegrams ceo's arrest in france and the paris has finally broken in silence over the case. the prosecutor's office has charged the pablo drugs in connection with 12 alleged crimes committed by a name, the suspects on his platform. he will be held in custody for at least 2 more days. with the charges ranged from refusing to comply with france authorities demands to distributing drugs and child pornography. 3 more legal infractions are tied to the platform. is crypt. the currency dealings pairs claims drop is complicit in crimes committed by telegram users via his social networking service. so far, there's been no official response to the allegations from mister durham himself. public criticism of his arrest is mounting worldwide. however, the french president and says the case is not politically motivated, frances, more than anything attached to freedom of expression and communication to innovation into the spirit of enterprise. it will remain so. the rest of the

telegram president on french territory took place as part of an ongoing judicial investigation. this is in no way a political decision. the administration of telegram has called for people throughout his release and slammed the case against him. are paris based to contributor rachel marston weighed in on the story earlier today. so fragile fishes use an arrest warrant that seem to have been scribbled on the back of a napkin on route to hall, a founder of the globally popular online chat at tele graham, straight off his plane and into custody upon arrival at new bill j airport, near paris on saturday night, russian born pabo durham seriously managed to get fresh citizenship in 2021 without ever even living here, just 3 years later, the same french government that gifted him with a political shortcut to citizenship is now suddenly accusing him of taking an

overly laid back approach, you could say she was platforms content, according to french press reports alleging that he's turn the app into somewhat of a giant, free for all for us sorted scum appears, terrorist money laundering drug traffickers, pad files, uh no exclusive mention of people who just have opinions that the establishment doesn't, particularly like andrews online proliferation. european officials are always whining about and threatening these platform operators over probably the most recent being ex platform owner eli must. but someone else did read between the lines and saw that exact issue in all of this, because brask was apparently enough to incite the canadian founder of another free speech platform, rumbles, chris pa, blocks, key to grab is go bag and get the heck i did dodge i'm a little late to this,

but for good reason, i'm just safer, departed from europe. france has threatened to rumble, and now they have crossed a red line by arisen telegram seal bible doodle. scrupulously, for not sense when speech rumble will not stand for these behavior. and will use every legal means available to fight for freedom of expression, a universal human rights problem. he previously opted to buy it right. g of lock rumbles access across france rather than sense or content that the french government had asked him to like r t, for example. durham was saying to him that the west really liked for awhile about how he was pressured by the russian government over content control and back door access. and how we basically just flip them off like a big hero who was so badly persecuted that he was never actually arrested or charged with anything in russia as well. telegram is still operational there today, while durham is free to go around the world promoting himself as

a professional victim of russia. you're off even so right in line with top down, you demands the sensor. archie and other russian media outlets at the request. but he had also recently started to change his tune to one that probably wasn't such a crowd pleaser for the western establishment. we got too much attention from the, the, at the i, the security agencies, wherever we came to the us. i brought an engineer that is working for telegram and it was an attempt to secretly hire my engineer behind me and back by cyber security officers officers. the events of january of the 6 we received a letter from i believe the clinic with many of the democratic sides. and they requested that we would share all the data we had, you know, relation to what they called this uprising or the letter seemed very serious.

and the letter said, you know, if your fail to comply with this request, he will be in violation with the us constitution. the high tapes have been rolling in since durham's arrest. of course, there is no actual proof that this has to do with free speech, but the western establishment does have a nasty habit of cloaking its authoritarian tendencies in national security or serious criminality. which basically makes it impossible the rule of that being the case here as well. and once they get access or control over one thing, they have it for every thing. so based on prior reporting out of germany and the netherlands telegram has been responsive to court orders for disclosure of information on national security grounds in here limited cases of immediate threat to life. but there's no shortage of people watching all of this right now. i'm

thinking that that might just be a way to use course and to push open the window to a lot more cooperation from the app. then they the authorities normally would be able to get otherwise p v. it's 20. so it's in europe and you'll being executed for liking a mean using allied countries to circumvent 1st amendment protections is the new rendition. the arrest of durham is an assault on the basic human rights of speech and association. i am surprised and deeply saddened that my crime has descended to the level of taking hostages as a means for gaining access to private communications. it lowers, not only france, but the world makes you wonder how government ever managed to investigate crimes before mobile apps and the internet came along, if they're so desperate to rely on them to figure out what's going on. american officials are constantly whining about facebook found marcus, doctor bird,

not doing enough about sex pass on his ass, like he's responsible for every tree phone line. and i guess durham was now in the same basket. zakiria has never been arrested though. maybe it's just a coincidence that he also bends an e whenever asked by the establishment. a couple of dozen western backs and deals were pretty quick to denounce an order blocking telegram as free speech interference when it was a russian court issuing its. it'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to react this time when it's france, a prominent member of the western establishment that's leading the charge. american tech tycoon. a loss is among those speaking out against drugs arrest. many are now asking if the ex platform owner himself could be next. some critics appear to be directly threatening, must come on them. is veteran us politician alexander vin men who happens to have a history of involvement and scandals related to ukraine while do of holes. french

citizenship is arrested for violating french rule. this has broader implications for all the social media, including twitter. there's a growing until runs for platforming, this and phone malign influence and the growing appetite for accountability must could be none of us. well, joining us from budapest now is journalist taylor who can tailor a good to have you on with us. and so the parents prosecutor's office is now officially charged. people do rob with 12 crimes that's just like committed by a named suspects on his platform. so what are your thoughts on that, on the ceo of telegram being held accountable for what others do via his platform? i absolutely will. first of all, thank you for having me. you know this such a really dangerous precedent in my view because what is being established here is it the ceo of a very well known and well used platform telegram is being punished for the alleged crimes that took place on his platform. and of course, it's being cited that telegram was not using the proper moderation services. that

telegram has a 2 strict of encryption services on the platform. and so as a result, he is now charge, as he said, with 12 counts related to a conspiracy to distribute child abuse material, drug trafficking, as well as a number of other agreed just offenses. so this does set a bad precedent, i would say in the future that holds ceo. so these platforms accountable for illegal activity that takes place on their platform. yeah, you said it's such a bad precedent. now, one of telegrams, competitors, facebook, as we know, has also faced a lot of credit criticism over content moderation on its platform. however, marked as dr. burke has never faced arrest or charges. why do you think people during the case is different here? yes, it's a good question. well of course pavel durham is uh, russian origin. and uh right now there is a very significant political tensions between the united states, the u,

the overall western world and russia. so i think what we're seeing here, of course, is any opportunity to further demonize the russian states they are going to take it the western world is going to take that opportunity. and this is not just an opinion or conjecture. this is evidenced in some of the treatment and rhetoric that has been used against telegram and in the past. many e u officials have referred to telegram, of course, is a russian a platform because the ceo is a russian origin. and in fact, there's been various attempts in the you going back to 2021 to place a further restrictions and bands on the platform with regard to the platform allowing for an anti lockdown protesters to communicate in 2022. there was various bands and restrictions in norway in the netherlands, and then also just recently spain's high court ordered that mobile providers block access to this particular platform. so i see this is being also used as

a political tool to further serve their agenda and also sensor content. so let's be honest, sense or content. it goes contrary to the western mainstream, acceptable narrative at taylor when moscow took issue with you to block in russian content creators of slowed down the web site within the country to the point that is basically on usable. now, france has arrested during over alleged crimes committed on his platform. i'm not sure we can really compare the 2 cases here. but how would you explain the difference in approaches that these 2 countries have taken? right, it's very interesting to see because the western media, what have you thinking that some eastern countries, whether that be russia or ron china, crack down on free space, but we're seeing it in particular in the u right now with the dsa, the digital services act and also with the e and that they the european media freedom max, which is actually not getting enough attention. i've actually reported on this european media free to match. let me be clear,

has nothing to do with media freedom. it's a media regulation which restricts controls information. the citizens are allowed to access and it also places the entire the media sector to be unified under a single framework that is get this overseen by a new european board for media services. so that's the true state of media. freedom free speech in the free press in the western world. however, of course it is not framed like that. and in most of the media, you spoke earlier about how this sets a dangerous precedent, the rest of door of what does this mean for the rest of the world, especially when it comes to relations between governments and social media platforms. all right, so this isn't just happening in the you, of course, if you look at what has happened over the past few weeks in the u. k. of course you have this u. k online safety bill, which is marketed to the public as being a tool or a bill that will protect children from online harms,

which i think everybody would support what it does is it effectively a sensor speech? and people are now being put in prison for things that they have set online in the u. k. the united states also has a numerous problems despite it having the 1st amendment. so this is a global issue that we're seeing the with a really bad case in particular with these different uh, policies, as i mentioned, the dsa and uh, the and my favorite just to go back to a point that you mentioned earlier about mark sucker bird. i mean, why isn't he being held accountable for maybe some of the illegal activity on his platform? well, mark sucker berg and facebook has a history of working in cahoots with the f. b. i and intelligence agencies, especially during the election periods, 2 sensor information and to basically get people in trouble in criminalize their speech. so again, it just goes back to, to the state of free speech in the western world, which isn't very good. you know, it was in 2018 that russian officials a faced immense backlash for trying to gain access to telegrams. encryption key is

through legal means. probable durham left the country obtain to friendship citizenship and now he's been arrested in france. so back then we saw a number of organizations and states speak out in defense of him, but now they are eerily silent. why do you think that is? again, i think it goes back to this political realm that we are in right now. we're western countries are in conflict with russia right now, and they are using this as an opportunity to, to politicize the issue. and then also to this is also about controlling access to information. telegram is a threat because it does allow for people to maybe at times access information that they couldn't be exposed to through the mainstream media channels. however, what's very interesting here, and i think you mentioned it is a fact that powell durham was all too happy to comply with restrictions. uh to to ban said, rushing media outlets uh on the platform. so there is a little bit of

a sketchy history with telegram, but it is still been a platform that has been a place where people can access information that perhaps the you, the western power structure doesn't want people to access. because the people have truth about, say, the cray, more about cove it about a china a ron, perhaps they want to support some of the foreign policy initiatives coming out of the western world. all right, we're gonna leave it there. are journalists tell her that taylor, thank you. thank you. the meanwhile, the indian government is reportedly investigating tele grandma's suspicions of alleged to criminal misuse, to merge indian supreme court lawyer dash for time. the gum says the ops use in illegal activities does not justify paris. jailing its founder. well, it's not the big thomas box prior to the most. no need to worry if they have, i think there's a process going to be down there today. dimension is given to the,

to the, to the doctors because it's here and it's given the orders there that is, uh, noticed something on the sides this i personally in the, in the in, depending on the goals which i have. and therefore, i think any time to yes, i mean this domain of that are being con games are on the gym. so ensure investigation and india. it's not a pretty good channel. it doesn't go a lot of us. however, the international guy based on the last barrier engine various other countries, the. busy the sar major dudgeon doctrine. busy north is all done by the board and uh, back industries unit just because of your sanity on their conditions in which i didn't get on board the block and saucy. besides mentioned. busy depending on the

constraint on such a goal and then nobody has to see whether he searches or the power another that lot you get in the notes. you don't want any. busy otherwise, on air and online, we've got you covered more on how prominent russian media and political figures have reacted to the rest of public their, of what our websites are taking dot com. the kids that crack down on ukrainian orthodox church followers is ramping up. one of the countries, m. p 's, who lashed out at the religious band was later accused of us halting a ukrainian law enforcement officer and then claims his family was almost kidnapped as they fled to europe. someone tried to kidnap my family, my mother and my wife and 2 small children were almost kidnapped from a hotel in europe yesterday. after the 1st unsuccessful attempts and the measures we took,

they tried again at the airport. as everything we know is based on the statements of that ard sounds we took, posted on his telegram channel. yes, he claims that there wasn't, that's, hadn't said a kid, nothing that took place. he is somewhere in europe. we didn't, we don't know where exactly you crazy in the claims that he fled the country. viola . that's all we know and he claims are come to be true on his telegram channel states that local police apparently have been alerts and that they have the names and card details of the perpetrators. and that's some form of an investigation is underway. but he claims that the cameras team is behind it. and the reason why the did this is because of his stones on the cranium parliaments adopting this bill, which basically bands the russian length of orthodox church of the ukraine. so and of course the millions of ukrainians are part of the trip. so of course the subset many people including the somebody who was very, very vocal in parliament when they were considering this, your word,

your cousins box, was able to do that. you korean parliament has made a fatal mistake by voting in favor of banning the ukrainian orthodox church. and this mistake without any doubts, will cause tragic consequences for the entire ukrainian people. it is no loss can prevent us from bring visiting temples of defending our fate. there are no obstacles to the name of just as there were not for the lord. so shortly after that his sled and a criminal case was opened into him legally crossing the border, but that's on top of and all the criminal case. and that one is in regards to his altercations was law enforcement officers, one was in k of another, one was in odessa now to the truth claims that all these cases were fabricated by zalinski team because they want him out and they want to punish him for his belief, it's basically so besides being passionately opposed to this, we soon found on the orthodox church. what more do we know about this month? or he started when he came from the world of sports and security. and you've really

answered politics in 2019 from odessa, one point he was even the parts officer lensky is party. but then who was quickly dismissed, i guess because his views did in the line with the landscape. and we'll save time and time again that ukrainian nationalists were really against them because of certain actions that they deemed as pro russian. for example, he was one of the people who laid flowers to the victims of the old desktop mastercard, ukrainian nationalist. there understand what he had to do, that after all, it was pro russians separate sisters besides who died. so why are you laying flowers to them? they're the enemy. he didn't agree with that. then we have again, this february, he actually posted baleful one of the places who was the pain for stealing rupture propaganda. apparently they didn't like that because he's helping out a police who happens to perhaps agree with the boss and some way, shape or form. he saw this is purely something religious and that that man needs to be supported. then we have the course concurs and disaster. and he also spoke out

about that and he made truth and all his telegram channel. he said that ukraine in soldiers would ask the crating monuments, that they were making fun of the elderly, the locals in the course, that there were also stealing from them stealing from shops. then he spoke out against his bill. so of course everything was same, there really goes down well with the cube machine, and he believes that this is them trying to punish him. and this is how he summed up how he can use this case. today's events are just more proof that the current governments gary now the systemic and cynical persecution of all those who have the courage to oppose their dictates. i am called the traitor only because they do not bogged down to the authorities and did not keep silence when in justice occurs. officials are not saying anything right now and key of bod. soleski did announce a meeting with a law enforcement officers. after that, to discuss those who fled, he didn't mention this m p by name. but those in the know claim that this is exactly what this is about. and they want to find the way to punish those who fled

physical food should regarding those who was against. don't say that it's traitors to ukraine who help russian aggression to justify it. the save you frame fighting some responsibility on stage needs to clear on says about such people have to quickly responsibility so that all of these come rates get what they deserve, wherever they hide, and wherever they run, the age poor, waiting. now, for a continuation of this case, either on to the troops telegram channel or he seems to be posting all the updates has that happened to him or something, at least from the officials in ukraine, about this case about him in particular on out to west africa where locals in burkina faso have rallied against do crime support for militant groups in the region, reflecting a wider sentiment across the helm. the demonstrators accused 2 of them back in the terrace was the fort from nato france, in particular. they wanted the country to separate highs with the train following the lead of molly, and is there such as also back the request by the 3. so health states for the un

security council to take measures against you, kind of support for insurgency courses in africa, or the corresponding oliver. you today picks up the story. it is the key. so in fact, so the reason behind all of this is as you information and facts have come to lights about you crazy. i'm fine as single to rest in the region, in late lives, faxes from the vacuum to prove a company to the modern army in watts. it'd be monday and received a stabilizing operation. the town, often as our 10 near the out even border. that mission quickly went sideways when fighting broke out between that condition ad rebels from the to our a who put i mean, retreat back 9 month and forces were ambushed by the militants about a 2 full vac now and 45 modeling. soldiers were killed in the fighting ukraine submitted the scene changes at that time was very quickly to claim responsibility. evidence due to the official signed to the fact that the rebels received the

necessary information that allowed them to conduct a successful operation against wash and war criminals. the whole world has already seen this in principle, this can be commended on. we certainly will not disclose invitation, but let's say there will be a continuation. this is sensitive information. therefore, everything that you can does use happens within the limits within the framework over international lovesick taking into accounts all the necessary procedures simpler. as i said, the statements side fact that both now looks closer to a defeats for care of off to the government's off looking across. so mind the i use the road to, to the not to base and security council demanding it to denounce you. praise electric support off available, i'm seeing this, the whole region. and it was off to seeing that tomorrow, the m. e z practical magic ties between a fossil condemning, divide into tax ad echo expressing its strong disapproval offer praise the tax.

that was the reason pushing ukraine to start denying its involvement, but the damage had already been done. and this the health states wouldn't ramos buying into those lies have a listen to this. this is official and unequivocal support by the creating government for terrorism in africa, particularly in us to help this ex, also constitute a violation of the sovereignty. entered tauriel integrity of our states, include regression and support for international terrorism and flagrant violation of the charter of the united nations and the relevant international conventions. you know, according to an odyssey sauce, just before the attack and marty the, to our rig rebels visited ivory coast with they apparently mitchell with the ukraine intelligence ad received parts offer um drones that was sent to evey using diplomatic main. that's even, there's even a report from my job, a molly and publication telling us that i've read close to has most sent

investigation against the training in the scene, obviously on following suspicions off the involvement of to for mac take um took your max rather in minutes see training activities. now this is an investigation that is taking place during a very intense context, which is also marked by the recent condemnation by modeling the sea and we cannot fly. so i'll see appraisal for an ad. seemed to support a potential risk. we've seen this a house. there's also words on social media car and feed back to the recent openings of your train in the season. parts of the african continent, particularly in ivory coast, is quite possibly given that ukraine is in the middle of a conflict. now, speculation is mounting over the possibilities, that's the embassy in ivory coast was opened as a supplier to for, to risk in this a house region. and you are left to wonder if all these,

as the embassies that have been opened by ukraine, would be doing the same thing on the african continent to swap the malaysian prime minister has accused western media of twisting that for this about gossum. the leader says people are not in need of electron democracy and human rights, a plane to reduce i've done what the west is trying to do in the media or east in the right. but this conflict started because of the publication that happened on october 7th. we do not accept such a view because the coming always ation happened much earlier and continues relentlessly. the problem is no telling the design is government to be 0. and as with the say, you are the world system and old and which is of course strongly influenced by the united states nearby western well doesn't need to tell them, teach us about the meaning of democracy or fundamental rights and sustainable development. as, as low statement comments as malaysia reaffirmed its decision to cut trade with israel because of its actions and does the move is in line with an international effort. the pressure is round to ending the war. washington has directed intense

criticism at the malaysian premier over his stance. we discussed the prime minister sentiments the professor sell a watch the amount monsieur, at national university of malaysia. as we can see dates of just time, that is the use abuse. busy for sure. so any time on god's octaves, you can see the narrative of the western media not going to put like is this is done by the is right. is like a something that creasing because of how much money please. so i think i will permit just as one to make it clear that spot all of the seats and to bring that kind of never defining more issue with cnn, bbc or any other media that'd be good for by this, which is a very good friend to is right, you and i also have a convention on a news regarding the you can see that did the really don't want to show the reality

. in many ways i can see that the other sources to the energy in, in the components today. no, no, do i just wanted to ukraine when i sure, and i saw a we've come on. okay. see this to being portrayed very different ways come to the ukraine, russia, russia last night. and why did the new communities you create the much support to supported by the west, the media that if you can see, there's so much humans works that'd be put into this situation. but not at all what you still do when out to the middle east, where she and muslims across the region have joined the are by in pilgrimage important. the religious event marks the for this day of mourning for one of this nomic branches founding fathers and mom who's saying, well, worshippers flocked into the whole.