the, the, the paris officially charges a pebble job with 6 crimes committed via his telegram platform and orders him to remain in france, submit the investigation. he paces up to a decade in prison if found guilty for questions mount over why the telegram ceo has been taking the ports of all the likes of meta owner, mark. so i prefer block street despite his platform has been used to make crime. also it has the, the idea is believe to have launched it the biggest rate on the west banking over 20 years from quarterly killing 10 palestinians with the as really foreign minister calling for the fight in gaza to spread the area, the

fly from our headquarters in moscow, you're watching r t international. i'm rachel ruble. telegram ceo pub older off has been officially charged by french authorities, is accused of 6 alleged crimes committed via his online platform. mister durham has been placed under judicial supervision on a 5000000 euro bell and banned from leaving france where the investigation is ongoing. footage from the scene here shows him leaving the court house accompanied by body guards before riding away in a minivan he faces up to 10 years in prison, if found guilty of quotes administrating an online, a platform to enable and elicit transaction as part of an organized criminal group, he has been ordered to report to police twice a week. paris is also revealed that the preliminary investigation of drugs case began in february. the telegram founder himself has not made any statements since being detained and at an airport outside paris on saturday. here's our correspond,

that was more from outside the courthouse. all my strong shelters used to be 7 to of i probably will do or of has indeed been indicted. although released by the french justice system has been placed on the judicial supervision that was an obligation to pay a bill of $5000000.00 euro. henry pulled to police twice a week while being prohibited from live in from so that you can see people live in the court house behind me now, and he might be among them. mister, i've had been placed in police custody for almost full day since last saturday. when he was the rest upon the arrival at no bush at airport, the apparently, he was questioned by investigators and then to instead he had to have power support in one state to face charges. among other things, he has been accused of not having done enough to fight against offences commissions on his telegram application. and those haven't disclosed information about a to the french justice system for 4 days. now,

international condemnation has been raining down over his gave, which many people call illegals. so it's in the rest of, it has made a big noise on the international scene to the point that many personalities, especially along the social network act. i call in for a bike caught up on some kind of confidence. it could recall mister drugs arrest has sparked a global uproar of criticism from tech science politicians and even some of the world leaders over the past 4 days. and i may be in the broadcasting on sick talk, live instagram, facebook life, etc, etc. on telegrams, even though the in prison is founder in that pulse of persecution, maximum pressure and blackmail in the twisting, the arm of social media and alternative communication networks around the world. for to see the use of power globally persecuting to substrate because it, the people do rove is an interesting case. back in 2018, russia started a mild legal prosecution. on that day, 26 organizations from the west side,

the request to the russian state not to violate freedoms. it's only being 5 or 6 years. it's become completely normal for them to arrest him to them on the shut down of telegram in the west and well, everything has become reversed. things are changing in accordance with wisdom interests. international leaders aren't the only ones left to outraged by the case against a possible juror in paris. when you say you are committed to freedom of expression, you are lying. we have a letter from france that proves this. without a doubt, we had to shutdown rumble in france because you have no commitment to freedom of expression. it would be helpful to the global public to understand more details about why he was arrested. the us government declared war on those parts of the internet that are not under its control. anything that is not subject to the us deep state mass surveillance dragnet, like silicon valley big tech, hostages must be assimilated or destroyed. mega blowed was the beginning, then tick tock. now telegram, and we know whose next puddle dirt was left. russia,

when the government tried to control his social media company telegram, but in the end it was put in who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. it was a western country, a bite and administration ally and enthusiastic nato member that locked him away. puddle dirt sits in a french jail, denied living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the behest of governments until agencies, dark mrs. descending fast on the formerly free world, some critics appear to even be directly threatening access. eli musky among them is veteran, newest politicians, alexander vin man who happens to have a history of involvement and scandals related to ukraine. a while during the whole front citizenship is arrested for violating french rule. this has broader implications for other social media, including twitter. there's a growing intolerance for platforming. this in phone malign influence in the growing appetite for accountability. most could be none of us. all public criticism

of the telegram founders arrest mounted world wide at the french president, 2 days to make a statement on the case. and when he did finally speak out a manual, not cron claims the case has nothing to do with politics. frances, more than anything attached to freedom of expression and communication to innovation into the spirit of enterprise, it will remain so the rest of the telegram president on french territory took place as part of an ongoing judicial investigation. this is in no way a political decision. and well pub, older off has been accused of crimes committed by a his platform. some of the social media competitors are enjoying freedom without any prosecution, despite their networks been used to break the law ortiz, marina customer event investigates. or how many times have we heard that space before instagram should do more to avoid child pornography and terrorism, or the western brands that are regularly accused of child labor practices. new

disturbing lawsuit against met up the parent company of facebook and instagram. new mexico's attorney general is accusing the social media giant. and it's ceo, mark zuckerberg of enabling child sex abuse and trafficking on its sides. destination by the wall street journal. and university research are saying that middle platforms own to instagram is connecting and promoting a network of accounts dedicated to under age sex content. i know you don't mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands. our investigation in the middle social media platforms demonstrates that they are not safe spaces for children, but rather prime locations for predators to trade child pornography, and solicit minors for 6. as a career prosecutor, who specialize in internet crimes against children. i am committed to using every available tool to put an end to these horrific practices, and i will hold companies and their executives accountable whenever they put profits ahead of children's safety has suddenly been arrested. nope,

but when it comes to tell grab, they waited for the juggler right away. the double standards here are sold, larry and the people started to speak out online points. and now be all this in light of the arrest of pablo during what stops france through arrest toyota. c o terrorist to use their cars for transportation, zachary burgess, selling our information. so he is free, but pub, older of didn't. so he's in jail. simple. is that holding telegrams c o. pub, older of criminal, the liable for a harm done by his app is like holding toyota c o accountable for terrorist using their vehicle. it's melancholy. it's a sure, but they don't see it. they are adamant that do or all that, and his brother are complicit and possessing distribution offerings or making available pornographic images of minors in an organized group. and the fact that telegrams corporates with authorities seems to have sealed europe's fates. that's

despite the fact that there is, quote, no suggested either of the door or brothers were directly involved in any of the legal activities identified by the investigation. well, if francis so serious about this and wants to hold tech companies accountable for the concepts under platforms. so all up why only do are off the rest in platform executives because of their legit failures to sufficiently moderate content even content as the stub and, and humble as content that tom's children starts us down to dundas road that threatens free expression and gives too much power to the government to suppress speech or the end of the day if you are that concerned about terrorism and child pornography, you then started down and problem solve. it's that easy. remember, when ross at the job laugh, what did all these concerned individuals have to say,

then we call them representatives of the you in the council of europe, the o. s. c, the european union, the united states, and other concern governments to scrutinize and publicly challenge russia's actions in order to uphold the fundamental rights to free dom of expression and privacy. both online and offline, stipulated in binding international agreements to which rusher has a policy. well, that's for the couple of years and now france not only seems to understand the dangers, but wants to take it further by looking up this developer all v f. and it's incredible how quickly americans stand up and say, well, we would never do that. that chilling effect is why the united states has constitutional and statutory protections that ensure platforms can host a wide range of ideas without facing crippling legal consequences. so internally in the phones would disagree with that statement. it's fairly obvious that roles change depending on the goal at hand. and the goal here is very murky. instagram

has a massive child exploitation problem, but no arrest as luck, as he senses free speech and gives governments back to access to use the data. it appears that it all comes down to the same. all do are either with us or against us and the through with the was in this case firms, then you need to give them a walk. they want the keys, the names, the passwords, the info, they demand. you either give them a full access or they'll take your freedom that's from liver tay for you. all right, so what i mean now from colorado is joe altman, host of the conservative daily podcast. joe, great to have you on the program with us. so it took 4 days from his arrest for public drive to officially be charged. what do you make of the charges that have been pressed against the telegram ceo? i think it's more just a broader overreach. you know, it was listening to what was happening beforehand and you start talking about the us and we would never do that. but the us talks about julian a saws, but the us is directly involved in what's happening with france right now. and has

their feet or their finger on the fact that telegram is not doing what the us one of them. but do either why do you think mr. durham hasn't made a statement since his arrest? because he did walk out of the court after paying a $5000000.00 euro bell, but so far he hasn't said anything publicly. you know, i think he's in the state of shock at this point. i mean he's, he basically runs a platform. it's very difficult if you know anything about platform is very difficult to, to for moderation. there's always ways they find around it. so i do know the telegram has been working on ways to eliminate some of the fraud and, and some of the, the, the elicit actors that are on that platform. and they're a little bit further behind and say a, the a met or, or an instagram or, or one of these other companies. and so i think he's right now in a state of shock. i think he's got, he's got to collect himself. he's got to make sure he has proper representation, and then he'll get to the fight. he's never been wanting to shy away from any fights, whether it be in france or anywhere else around the world. and that certainly is

true. but the charges against mister draft concerns concern organized criminal activity, ranging from child pornography to drug trafficking. these are certainly quite serious charges, but some critics say that arresting the ceo of telegram could actually be a suppression of free speech. and that government should not have the power to do that. what are your thoughts? well, we don't actually know that the charges are real. we don't actually know that the, the allegations that they're pushing against them are real. because the, these, these, these, these organizations, these, these, you call them the western cobol. they have long put out stuff that wasn't true and hopes that they could settle someone into doing something strong on them and doing what they want them to do. on the other side, so we don't know if this is just another slander or defamation case against him. or if these are the, or what they're saying is actually actually happening on the platform, at least any large degree that he can actually control. but the, the issue that i have is that regardless of whether or not it is or is not

happening on the platform, these are the same people that are charging him, that are allowing for the exportation of children and grooming of children inside of the elementary and intermediate schools, both in france and the united states. so if they've truly cared about sex drafting or children, and they would not allow for some of the things that are happening on the streets in france, you have illegals or, or immigrants that are, that are slaughtering of the french people in the streets. you have in the us, you have, you have violence. venezuelan games that are take you over entire apartment complexes in place or do anything about it. so there just seems that they're just pick their target and you have people in government that want to create chaos. and this is just one of those points a cast. you know, joe, uh, one of telegrams, competitors, facebook um, perhaps the largest social media platform in the world. it has faced its fair share of the scandals related to content on its platform. however, mark stuck, americans ever faced arrest on similar charges and we know certainly

a lot of dark things take place on facebook. and as far as i know, he's never even been threatened with arrest in the same way that pop older off. has even eli musk has faced threats of arrest? what do you think people do of is being treated differently? well, i don't think it has anything to do with some of the elicit crimes or criminals that operate on these platforms. whether we're talking about meta inductor, bird, or we're talking about telegram, i think this has every thing to do with control and controlling the narrative and controlling the way in which truth is actually spoken on platforms is something they're deeply concerned about. whether we're talking about 11 months coming out and talking about free speech over in europe and how ridiculous it is that you could be held accountable for having thought crimes or in the united states. the same thing could be said. but these platforms are controlling the narrative and they're not just controlling the narrative in for one country. it, but it looks as if this is

a controlled operation for multiple countries around the world. and i guess that you can call this push to the one new world order, but it's all good book you theater. so we, we are what they're going to do to tell grandma is going to send a chilling message throughout all the other platforms. and it's going to be a comply or else type of mentality. i just hope that in this case he does not capitulate to that evil and decided to continue to fight this all the way they've been around. but we saw what they thought they did to join a silence for doing and just putting out information that was truthful. and so i can't imagine that they're going to make him fair and much better. you know, joe, what's particularly interesting to me about this case is that is taking place in france, the country of democracy and liberty. what sort of global afford you think, what we would be seeing if mr. drop had been arrested in another country, for example, russia as well. i think that the people that say that they're for liberty and that you live as free people are the ones that operate under the most oppression. you know, putting has never said that you have absolute authority or absolute freedom in his

country, although i think it's a fairly free country. but you start looking at what's happening in the european union and more specifically france or in the united states. and there are some great indicators that show that these are very, very, very oppressive environments that operate with this false front of that we live in a free or democratic society. and it's certainly really interesting, the lack of voice. those who have spoken out in support of people during, during this time, you know, joe, since his arrest telegram app downloads have searched in many countries including france and the us where you are. well, why do you think people are, are so eager to join the network? now we're in a pretty scary time. i think that that's an indication of just how many people are disenfranchised with the governments. and what those governments have done to collude with each other in order to hurt or institutionalize slavery across the world. in large part, we go towards all over the world for economic and,

and for economic reasons for specific countries. and the foreign policy is driven by a select group of people. i think most people in the country in the united states and around the world are starting to see that it is run by a group of very, very evil people. and when they're out there barking that, that, uh vladimir put in is, is the evil one while they're the ones doing the evil deeds that are costing the lives of, of millions of, of people around the world. it is given people pause and i think 2020, open the eyes of lots and lots of people. and in the end, i do believe that the people that call themselves the saints will end up being the ones that are actually the deem. and so i think the people are in a place right now, whether the you can see the, the spirit of the individual is coming out. i think there's going to be a rise up of individuals, not just in france or in united states. we saw what happened in the u. k. i think this is going to be a global a global offensive against evil that we've never seen before.

and frankly, i think this is just another one of those indicators that show us that the people are tired of being repressed or tired of being rolled over and treated as if their service. you know, i know this is not a problem. we're going to be able to solve in, in just a, a short interview, but it should governments be allowed to have a say in since ring social media content because certainly illegal activity does take place. we know it takes place on solid ground facebook uh, throughout the internet. so what's the solution here as well, the problem is not the censorship. i think there should be some sort of, some sort of indicator of things that you should and should not be able to socially say in public, right. and but the public should be the ones to decide what that is. other words, the people used to in the, before we had the internet, they would, ostracize you, you'd be talking about the scarlet letters that were developed for people that committed crimes. you have in certain cultures that would cut off your hand or, or cut off your foot. and so there was penalty service consequences to bad behavior

. but right now, globally, we don't have a barometer or a, a, a line of ethics or morals. and those that slippery slope is turned into, they can say and do whatever they want inside of government. but if the people rise up and recognize somebody, they're saying that's not true. they are the ones that get punished. they're the ones that get bullied and slandered, and they've created this entire apparatus to do that. so i think that it's a certain point. we've got to kind of take a step back. we would keep taking the internet is something different than they used to have bypassing notes or having newspapers. this, this type of behaviors happen for hundreds of years. it's not like it's, it's brand new, it's, it's a native human nature. so if we try to suppress, suppress truth or suppress any sort of information out there, you're likely to get the outcome that we have now, which is an amount of friction that is going to lead to either violence or, or mass casualties. yeah, certainly feels a bit like the wild west. hopefully we'll get it all figured out some day. don't mind hosted the conservative danny podcast. thank you. i got most of the the

has threatened to take action against georgia if the government proceeds with its stated intention to dissolve pro western infections and problem after october's elections. brussels says the move would jeopardize georgia's bid to join the european block. the opposition policies of labor and civil society and independent media are essential for ensuring the government so accountable in the democratic values are upheld. pluralism is a central pillar. the u. accession process, international tensions flared up earlier this year after the george and parliament introduced a bill to bring transparency to the foreign funding of and g. o. as in the country, western critics and brand at the law and on democratic while back in months long protest against the legislation in tbilisi, some georgia and politicians to choose the us and the us meddling in the countries affairs. regardless, georgia says it still wants to join the european union in the future,

but only on its own terms in law, you train and most of our authorities have practice down on opposition. parties and the media were both recently invited by brussels for e. you accession talks, we discussed the a parent to set some rules with the grade based european studies researchers divine clients. it is purely because of the political reasons. so what they are supporting in bold or for reasons uh is the exact thing that uh, they are going to condemn georgia for or some other country. so phrases and most of what we see uh practically, uh, track down against the most popular opposition party, the most popular kind of party in the country. sure. uh, i mean, in ukraine we have, uh, we have, i mean, uh, there were political murders there was, uh, banning. i mean, just recently the anything said orthodox church and its uh, was banned in the ukraine. i'm fine. so the features,

the freedom of religion is not even guaranteed. so there are no values that the e. u is defending this in the perspective of, uh, joining you at some point in the future on the horizon is only a care. it's that is not sweet anymore. he ends at one george's c in the states and cares policies. they only see 6, they are using this you membership perspective only as a colonial to do in order to subjugate georgia 30, uh, and the other country at least 10 palestinians have reportedly been killed in the west bank is the idea of launches a mass of operation it is believed it to be the biggest rate on the area in over 20 years. israel has the, the rates, the counter terrorism operation with its military launching multiple strikes and

ceiling off the towns of jeanine and the car and local media reported on the presence of his really military vehicles and hurting tanks, bulldozers helicopters and thrones. so the idea is to enter to the west bank overnights and forces. first, the surrounded the town of janine blocking exits, entrances and access the hospitals according to palestinian officials. meanwhile, israel's foreign minister claims the operation was part of a full scale war, comparing us to the gaza operation. we need to deal with this right exactly. as we deal with tara infrastructure in garza, including the temporary evacuation of palestinian civilians in any of a step needed, this is a war in every sense, such as reform us, the democratic factions spokesperson, dimitri delani said, israel is ethnically cleansing the westbank while the work. busy is busy with gaza to an extension of the genocide that is taking place in gaza. israel is the taking advantage that the whole world is paying more attention to guys while it has been

silently amex and its thing parts. although us bank silently promoting and protecting is on has the tires groups and are today. they are taking advantage of that by conducting this ethnic cleansing operation military operation occupied uh, westbank and uh, basically it is uh it has uh, killed over 10 people in just few hours. uh, there are tons of injuries, destruction, to infrastructure, and calls for displacing civilians are coming out of the cabinet. members of this really ministry which proves the ethnic cleansing, instead of this a military operation. the scores of locals in the central african republic have rallied against due crime support for terrorist groups in africa.

dozens of motorcyclists waived banners the slain are you printing and slide with the isis symbol on top. the printing official recently admitted that you have provided data to help military still dozens of soldiers during an ambush, and molly, he later tried to walk back his words. but to of this, the hell countries were quick to slash ties with c panel urging the un security council to take action. the protesters and the central african republic said they ran into trouble during their rally that we held a peaceful event against terrorism, against ukraine's support of terrorism in africa. and it surprises me that today, passing by the u. s. embassy white men with guns came out, rushed at us, and hit 2 of our brothers, and the americans tried to threaten us. we are shocked by these actions of the americans for bid us peaceful action. why do they support them terrorist?

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communities. palm oil is widely used in several industries from food to cost, medics and even biofuels. we spoke with the energy law expert in products written, who says the us only chasing its own interests. the probable government attempts to maximize part of the mice. all the technology of wild to supply for debate for i did want to introduce self subsidies since the from the regulations. the government of the you are, you will be in while missions they want to a trip to europe in greenville, by to $1050.00. i thought it was, it makes sense. i play football, one percent, or at least one, a $10.00 a major is. but on the other hand today and they should go for a month, one to 6, increase the problem with exports. so you do for you to get opinion and countries and also a lot of companies, there is some kind of the what if it's from the associates operators in the

european union to project in domestic markets from the found o u. s. the companies that are of the of upsets because found, well it is still fairly mid, so it's up as the books. what about plenty of supplies for, for the interview. and if you can get, if you need to find sort of type of project the best market by the boss, it might be a for us to send that equations to place. this is the, the point because of the same moment from the different specific leasing. before we go, a reminder of the breaking news. we're following here on our t telegram ceo powell durham has been a fish they charged by french authorities. he is accused of 6 alleged crimes committed via his online platform. mister drew off has been placed under judicial supervision on a 5000000 euro balance band from leaving france where the investigation is ongoing basis, up to 10 years in prison, is found guilty of quote, administrating an online platform to enable analyst that transaction as part of an organized criminal group, he's been ordered to report to police twice

a week. comparison also reveals that the preliminary investigation of drugs case began in february. the telegram founder himself has not made any statements since being detained at an airport outside paris on saturday. all right, just say was r t international up next on cross talk. peter lavelle and his guest discussed the 75 years of native bye for now the the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are.