so we, we don't understand how was this change overnight one year ago, it was the best interest of it is what it is security to bus money, to how much the day they think that the solution is, you know, i, i don't mind if this is really related to how much, but i am really body sensitive the, it's my touch, but i send you an individuals a lot of the i'm of those who have these accounts. and what about where to turn big apply for a procedure to defend, to try to justify or they need to defend themselves. so you come on just remote in postings onto paper and leave them separately. we need to be sure that you know, these people are not just simply with us and in businesses will have invested in capital we, we belong to us. this is the, this is the problem. the applications came from the c u of another peer to peer

trading platform. is there a possibility of the. busy that these allegations kind of emerge to entice, usually is over to another rival platform where it is that it could be a lot of reasons behind this to the men blown is that whoever that decision does not really care about how that might cause on non related person, you know, you just, you know, to the one. how about mid edition the is i really me my kid to the videos and nobody cares. so i mean, the system is not sensitive, the system is not fit, the system is the balance. there is the system is loaded onto posting it and then the don't care if protective dummy of being the change in the us

percentage of number the there's nobody good. so uh, i don't trust these procedures. i don't trust the system. and i don't think that these are the proper way to handle the situation. okay, well thank you so much for coming in the program and sharing your thoughts with us . all. not head of the jerusalem development fun summer san angelo way, which seems to foster greater awareness of palestinians globally. thank you. thank you. know, i, big confession was made this week by mark sucker berg the facebook supremo officially admitted that the u. s. government pressured him to hide stories regarding a hunter by laptops, campbell, i'm information surrounding cobit 19 next. rick asks, will anyone be held to account direct impact gets going in the

the hey, rick sanchez here. this is direct impact and this is part of what we're going to be talking about. back in june astronaut, which will more and sunny williams flow to the international space station and boeing star liner. but now they'll fly home next february and a space x crew dragon, or so they say they'll fly home to astronauts stranded in space. friends bowen, this is a wild story. i'm rick sanchez. hey, let's do this thing. the

look. there's still a lot of chatter world wide regarding the rest of the telegram founder, hobble durham, especially now that we know why he was essentially arrested at 1st. we thought, well, look, who knows, maybe this guy did something off, or maybe he was running drugs or maybe he was involved in some kind of office scandal or something. but we're now finding out that that's not the case because we have the charging document. it's been released and it's mostly about complicity. it was complicity mean complacently basically means that they're charging him with whatever any one of his 1000000000 users on his platform might have done or thought to do. which is like arresting the head of a phone company because somebody use their telephone to do a drug deal or something. i mean, it's kind of ridiculous. no, it's, it's beyond ridiculous. there's a document that we're talking about. what appears to be the most damaging charge is

the one right there listed as charge number 2, the one that reads refusal to communicate at the request of confident authorities, information or documents necessary for carrying out and operating interceptions allowed by law. now what that means is, and frances actually wants the ability to involve itself in the inner workings of this private company called telegram or the telegram platform. that they'd like to be able to monitor the users or on their and the messages that they send. obviously the question that comes to mind for me, especially as a journalist, i'm in this business, is should a government be allowed to do that? and i, by the way, what happens when you give the government the right to go in and look at people stuff, whether it's listening to their phone calls or, you know, listening to what they write on telegram or whatever other uh, platform they're using. what we know kind of the answer to that question. because

just yesterday, interestingly enough, facebook slash metal founder mark zuckerberg released the letter to the us congress, where he's apologizing for that. he's apologizing for allowing the u. s. government to inform and manage his platform. this is, this is, you can't make this stuff up. by the way, what he's saying, the government did with him is much like what france is asking to do with our graham. there it is in a letter congress document says on several occasions this company was incorrectly pressured by the white house to change or pull content regarding colvin, which he now wishes he hadn't changed or done. but the most damaging admission in the letter is that one right there. see that right there that we highlighted for you and yellow. that's where a sucker bird writes quote. in a separate situation, the f b, i warned us about a potential russian. this information operation about the binding family and bare ridgemont in the lead up to the 2020 election that fall. he writes to congress.

when we saw a new york post story reporting on corruption allegations involving the then democratic presidential nominee jo biden's family. we sent that story to fact checkers for review and temporarily get mode it. that means they stopped it. they pulled the story while waiting for a reply. it since been made clear that the reporting was not russian, this information. and in retrospect, and retrospect, pardon me. we should not have demoted the story. we've changed our policies in process just to make sure this doesn't happen again. so look, what's that number is a right there is he allowed the government, the white house in this case to tell him what to do. and now he regrets it, they did their usual blame russia thing, you know, and then he jumped when he heard that. and now is that

a broken saying he was essentially lied to and possibly manipulated. and as a result, more than 3000000000 users that you know, use facebook did not here the tools. so what does that tell us? that maybe france or any other government should not be granted whatever they want? because that can lead to some kind of censorship. look, i frankly believe no government, not ours, not rush or not, frances, not china is no government should be given access to determine what people should or should not here or be allowed to monitor what people write for, say. now here's where i'm going to go back a little bit on this. my thinking should certainly be concerned about how to best manage social and digital media platforms. yes. 100 percent. absolutely. we should come up with a way to do that. can i come up with some way of doing that?

sure, here's my take. in a perfect world there's, there's, we would create a body of fair minded, informed, intelligent objective men and women who would run down every communication, every story and determine its value. and those people would need to not be connected to any party to any cause to any ideology, to any government, to any religion, whatever. can we find those people? can we make that grouping back committee? i don't know. maybe i don't think so. so what do we do? well, between now and then the world according to rick sanchez for what it's worth, the best we can do as an perfect, as it sounds, sorry. just let all ideas into the marketplace, but all ideas into the marketplace, even the stupid ones, even the wrong ones, even the hurtful ones. and then we just need to trust our collective humanity.

figure it out. it's what i think when, oh, i know you've been given this a lot of thought yourself. what are your thoughts? i agree with you on, on that front, but i want to talk about mark zocker berg's. o may a copa. right, and i call it a phone me a call, but obviously he had to address this issue because another tech titan similar to him in powell derived with his arrest, a mark 2nd berg had to say something, because i would turn to him eventually. so obviously, like we heard the founder of rumbled fleeing france, who happened to be there the same time that, that people drop was there. he fled before he actually made a post about it on twitter himself. but i'm calling this a full may a copa and into a day late and a buck short. because how does he respond? how does he answer to the fact that facebook meta is pep bird with

x books? yeah x c i a agents as, as a, as alan mccloud mccloud from mit press news. in december of 2022 exposed the facebook has this revolving door between washington dc. the intel agencies, specifically in the c, i a, me, at a number of leadership roles within facebook. the, the silicon valley is completely blanketed with x books from right here at langley. how does he address that? and he does it in his letter. that's the thing. so the thing here, rick, is that, that, that there is government interference taking place. you're saying there is governmental fear and 2nd place. okay. well, today i'll be almost letter the need to they don't, they don't need the government to apply pressure and put a jack boot on their neck. he has willingly hired folks from washington to be

within his ranks to kind of control from the inside out x x boot. yeah. so yeah, something to consider. no, it's, it's a great point. you know, just because he came out and put this letter out because he was being forced to by members of congress, doesn't mean that what he says in that letter is any different than what he's actually doing. and i think that's your point and it's a damn well valid one. hey, here's our other story that i wanted to get to you on a us. and this is beginning to sound like an academy award winning movie. here's the treatment, right? if we wrote a treatment and sent it to hollywood to astronauts, are stuck in space and who knows when or how they will come home. well, maybe next february, we now will learn. right. how to get there while they went there on a boeing? yes. boeing starlight or capsule that apparently now it don't work. back in june astronauts, butch will more and sunny williams flow to the international space station on

boeing star liner. but now the fly home next february, and a space x crew dragon. despite bullies, insistence star liner is safe to fly them back by 12 more sunny. williams blasted off to the international space station that was, as you heard just in june, supposed to be an 8 day mission, a dates that's it. they days. now they're gonna have to wait at least another 6 months and who else if you know they're going to even be able to get back then instead of coming back on the boeing star line or they're going to be coming back on top rescue really they're going to be rescued right? by a space x, a private company owned by law mosque. and why can't they come back on the boeing rocket that they went up on right. while it's leaking, helium is it's leaking helium, and it's thrusters reportedly don't work. now, question, should we be surprised? as one of our members, our guy pointed out, sar liners is safe, is a 737 max,

right? it's a weight. exactly. that's why i do not in any way but grudge nassau for making this decision. it is awful that these 2 asked or not they're going to be stuck for many months in the international space station. they won't be able to come home until february you cannot make this stuff up. do i think the assessment is pretty much what the whole world is thinking? uh, it goes something like this. can boeing get anything right? i mean, can these people get anything right? and why didn't i keep getting paid with my tax dollars? i mean, if i did that or any of you did that, things like what they have done stuff like they've screwed up. we would have been fired ages ago. but i keep going on the air and reading about stuff that they got and government contracts and more planes and bigger planes, a new designs. and now this, this is a joke, manila. yeah, rick, i the only thing i would say they would add to the hollywood movie version of this

would be that the to asked or not who have why did after not always have cool names like sunny and bush and fuzz. and i should point that out but, but when they, when they do come back in february, they're going to come back on valentine's day and they fall in love that's. that's the only thing you actually, if right. but on the serious part of this, the sad part about boeing reg, as you and i have discussed in the last several episodes about boeing, their reputation, the max jet, that at least 2 times have claimed the lives of hundreds of people. yeah. they've been down because the failure of inspection there, there is something internally, massively wrong at boeing and when lives are on the table like this, the u. s. government should not continue to invest our tax dollars. yeah. into i don't know what kind of r and d that they're doing, but now the private company in it, you know, an

e on less space x is going to have to go bail, bowing out. this is yet another corporate bail out in another form in another fashion. boeing is getting, you know, let go off the hook from this. nobody's saying that much the government is going to continue to deploy an employee. boeing as a major contractor because let's face that boeing, make some other equipment that the us government, namely the d. o. d likes to use, rick? yeah. well now listen, i agree with you and whether i've been a supervisor or i've actually run a companies throughout my life. i believe one word is the most important and that is meritocracy. meritocracy, you, you, you get what you deserve, what your show me, you can do is your value and i'll pay you according to your value. and i'll either keep you, that's right. remote, you or fire you based on your value. i'm sorry, but you're absolutely right. manila, when it mean a why is the government treating these people like they're

a students when they seem to be d minus a best? i don't get it. it's not personal. i'm just looking at the record. where's the marriage here? um and, and that's important. i mean, and that's where we are great conversation, we're gonna talk somebody in a little bit by the way, who's going to be able to help us kind of work through some of these things out as well. his name is larry johnson. larry johnson worked at the c i for 4 years, he worked as an analyst and he moved over to the state departments. he worked at the state department's office and counterterrorism. by the way, areas, he's a commentator, he's a blogger now, and he's going to join us right here in a jeff. once he read back the, the united states, try new sanctions on russia. that's the best thing the, let's go to happened to russia because a sentence on russia, against agriculture, against the other items too low, made russia fetus produce

a phone. so as on agriculture and now, so the major growth export are no longer dependence on the united states. and europe, the the, the the

hey, welcome back, i'm rick sanchez and this is direct impact our guest, laurie johnson, former c i, analyst officer and blogger of welcome. eric, thanks for joining us. why it's going to be with you rick. what do you make of this telegram situation? i mean, i'm sitting here thinking like it's almost like to me anyway, a little bit of a bridge too far from france to be telling any digital platform. we need to know who people are on your platform. we need to have access to what they say, and we're going to hold you responsible for anything they do. seems a little bit of an overreach to me, but what the hell do i know? it looks to be like the french are acting at the behest of the united states. me because the particular language is used in that charge that you reference. it says refusal to provide information or documents necessary for the conduct and implementation of a wire tap submitted by law upon request of an enforcement agency. now,

i'm not an international law specialist, but what i do know is that the united states is one of the few countries where we do draw a distinction between intelligence collection and law enforcement being able to use a communication in court. so it, remember what happened to scott ritter just uh, 23 weeks ago. mm hm. the f b i showed up and they wanted to see says phone and his computer. yet you're already had in hand all of his text messages, all of his e mails. they're already intercepted so that they didn't need to grab as equipment because they already had it. the national security agency. and british general communications headquarters, g, c, h q. mm hm. which does is the british version of say they actually those 2 units sit side by side over in england and work together. they're scooping up all this information anyway. anybody that tells you the telegram is encrypted. what app is

encrypted? any of these platforms that are supposedly encrypted and unavailable, they are being intercepted. mm hm. and i am sure the encryption is been broke. so what you've got going on here is an effort to try to shut down telegram. not because it's not cooperating with united states. let's. let's just say that. think of it, you're telegrams a global company. yeah. it serves the world. yeah. are they supposed to give information out to every body? so they're ron once the intercepted communications. so in the us user, then the united states and, and so you're gonna try. that's a great point. that's a great point. yeah, that's a great point you just made. i hadn't even thought of it that way, but you're right. it's almost like francis saying, well, we want to know what the chinese and the russians and the iranians are up to the chinese. they're gonna also take them to court and say, we want to know what the americans and the brits are up to. the russians are going

to take them to court and say, you know, we want to know what the in needed screw up to, or the crazy ends are up to. it would never read and then we would have no telecommunications companies already. platforms like price. wow. right, your points are good. what else? so good. go ahead. i mean that, that's what's going on here. there's the, the problem is telegraph. 3 allows free speech and by allowing free speech, they are interfering with the intelligence community. narratives that the west is trying desperately to promote, both with respect to what is going on and you can. right. and what's, what's going on between industrial genocide, a war against the palace. do you agree with manila? manila is point seemed to be and i think it's a fair one that they've already gotten a zocker berg knuckle under zachary, according to manila and her reporting sucker bird is pretty much doing whatever the hell it is. the white house, the c i a and the state department wants and he gives it to him without questions

asked for the most part. and then he sent this letter to congress saying, wow, i wish i hadn't done this. i shouldn't listen to them. very france and the us and perhaps britain, as you mentioned, are trying to get a pablo to do the same thing. that's not good. birds done. is that, is that, do you see it that way? yeah, yeah. i mean, the middle is part about the number of ca, officers that have gone to work it. these are the social media platforms is telling, you know, they, they realize they can go make more money outside of governments. but still curry favor with the government by becoming a conduit up. but you know, nobody showed up labor under the illusion that any of the social media platforms that advertise themselves as being, is secure and encrypted. don't get your information is safe and private. it's not the way things that's been stooped up by the government the way so. so what that's

a little bothersome though. i mean, i'm an american, you're an american, we love this country. we love what we generally stand for, but it does seem like more and more every day. there are forces within our government that are doing everything possible to invade our privacy. how high, right, how, how far have they gone? where exactly are we in this point? is there anything, any of us can do to maintain the level of privacy? i think we kind of maybe used to have when you and i were growing up go off the grid. i don't have a cell phone. don't use a computer, don't use a credit card. that's not reasonable. it's no. what is it? all right, that's the only one. that's the only way. if you're going to do anything that's electronic, anything that is going to pass over the internet. hm. the they're, they're scooping it up, they're, they're this being collected. so just expect that they have ever, that they can have everything. i mean, you know, we, we, we have a meeting,

we have a meeting for the show every day at 9 o'clock in the morning, right? the everybody's on, we talk about ideas. what are we going to talk to all we're going to get larry johnson on today and talk to him. we're going to cover this story cover this story . and here's the elements we're going to do when we discuss everything out there. somebody has the right to go in there and listen to whatever the hell we're talking about and they probably go right? yeah. right, yeah, that's a good. if we got the time, i mean it looked us. this has been going on. the boy is even before there were, let's say cell phones were ubiquitous. yeah. i know what am i one of my former business partner. she was the chief of international opposite d. e. a and when they were trying to tread chase down the guy, the blue walk. yeah. bianca played in uh that, uh mm hm. when down in columbia with the they was the attempt to kill a bus driver at the time. yeah. presidential candidates up. they, they were able to track the guy they did, they, they got, they got permission to set up a phone, tap on him, and they,

they trapped him by getting him to call his mother. and he was, he was at a phone booth in brooklyn when they grabbed it, but they were able to track real time. now this is back or what? 19? yeah. 19. 1988. so this is, you know, were retired and we're more than 30 years ago. they were able to do it then with technology was far less sophisticated than what we have today is that the problem, the technology because it. ringback seems to me like there are times when i want my government, i want the c, i a to do certain things that investigate certain people. i want the state apartment to do its job and look out for the bad guys who actually want to do his harm. but one of turns into we're going to use the excuse that we're going after bad guys, so we can just investigate you because we don't like your politics or we don't like the way you think that's a whole different story. and it seems that right there technology today that they didn't have in the past gives them the opportunity using like, you know, things like a i to, to, to,

to model out of us. whereas i used to monitor only 10.3. is that right? did i get that right? yeah. the head snowed and talked about this was revealed in the movie that oliver stone did with that snowden and, you know, one of the issues was they found out that they could actually go in through the computer even if you got it turned off. and through there, there's technology out there that allows spies to look through your computer. and if you've got your camera up, if the camera is not covered, they can actually look in and monitor you visually. and then what you thought is the privacy of your home or your bedroom. my life is pretty boring. i mean i'm, i'm a grand. 3 dad and, and you know, i got some kids and a wife and i got a regular house and everything and i'm kind of just, you know, and i do this job where i consider myself a journalist. but i imagine i probably say some things that bothers some folks over there. i wouldn't be surprised if they're listening and i should assume they are. yes. no, it's the only thing that for you know, that the,

they get sound to targeting there's, there's such a volume of information. so it's night. it's not like they've got us. they have a software system that will automatically flag and say, hey, here's this problem, child, go grab him or her, right? but, but once there is a decision made from a political standpoint of, we don't like what rick is saying. we don't like for the bellows saying we don't like when larry is saying, then they can come and start targeting you. and then they, they can, you know, call through all that information real quick. mm hm. and make sure that it's targeted on you. so you get, you get the focus and that's takes us back to the beginning of this conversation. that's what frances trying to do. and that's why they're trying to get the possible to knock a lender so that he can help them do that. and they'll put them in jail if he does . and that seems wrong whether they're already doing it, what they're trying to get him to do is to stop being a platform that allows alternative voices. interesting. interesting. yeah.

and there we go back to what they think. what they're ideology is and how they might have alternative being the key word, a different way of thinking. wow. very, that's a great conversation. it's really, it's really great to talk to you based on your judgment in your experience for you to be able to share that with us. thank you very much. i look forward to talking to you again is always a pleasure. thanks, rick. that's our show number. always try and look at your own box too. so 11 boxes, i'm rick sanchez, and we'll be looking for you and i broke sima next time the i'll going nature general secretary stilton bird claims a russian victory in the ukraine. complex is the biggest risk to the westlake

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