tv Cross Talk RT September 2, 2024 6:30am-7:00am EDT
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oh, yeah, well such a boat. so meantime we spoke to most people, are he the executive secretary or the african legacy foundation? now he says that washington is conveniently turning a blind eye to the political upheaval them pers, democracy for the u. s. is a me, a choice for power and profit making. if results of such a political system leads to the appointment of people who are willing to work for united states even against the will and interest of their own population, then democracy is wouldn't come if democracy brings and people who oppose the west or assembly. they just want uh, what is good for the country. then of course, democracy is not the one to come to the states, but us applies this world wide web deals with countries in the globe of south such as venezuela, a very oh, you're in rich country,
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old. well that deals with its allies and you're at the question, has never be quality or justice or peace or democracy. the question for the us is own was profit making power and control. that's why not prepare to give a turn, a blind eye to what is happening in france, a clear violation, not just of the democratic process, but the whole french constitution. while of course, they open their eyes wide watching over the event as well, then democratic process, which has been praised by international pregnancy and has been trying to spend but that many cuz i'm not prepared to accept that because it doesn't set their concerns or wrapping up the program for now here on how to you, but a very quick side note for you did, you know, the russian government is sounding to be a lot of a human blood and tissue samples being sent from the bio weapon research labs connected to the and took all of those samples are opposed to being used to develop
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hello and welcome to cross back on peter a little here we discussed some real things. there was talk and maybe only talk you brain is interested in a negotiated into the counseling. what does drugs have to do with this? also, what a harris administration take a different position on the gaza genocide. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, steven guides in belgrade. he is a research associates at build rates, institute of european studies, and in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he is an international legal analyst or a gentleman, cross that rules and the fact that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate that. i start out with steve and you know, it's interesting over the last i'd say 2 weeks. we've had a lot of different um, noise being made, if you can call it that we had about it came on via and void to t a. and so wednesday saying this war must come to an end. we had a picture of the photo band doing being a real blow dried are going to give, going to moscow going to be using. and then to be son when he got back to europe.
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and then curiously, we have drums still say that he can end the war and the war before he is inaugurated. if elected, we have precious a little information on that. and then we had some of the likes of mike and peo show up at the republican national convention, basically wanting the trail double down. triple down quad triple down. completely at odds that went from of seemingly has said it's um, but there is something going on here and i think it has to do with the american election. your thoughts exactly. it has to do with the american election, but also with the american graphs strategy. because the americans cannot, they realized over lots to use that they can not lead to major wars or be behind 2 major wars at the same time. so what we see with the possible trump return might be that they want to shut down the brain in the eastern european conflict for
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awhile had to completely concentrate on nothing. yahoo was planned to conquer the middle east uh to spread the war. uh so what is really important is the message that the nav was sent to the congress. it is also imposing most of that to a lot of colors and the not very come, but still have the have she had a very warm welcome after 10 months of. busy or feeling of similar goals and some militants. so uh, i think the trump and the west in general ones uh, stale weight and your brain. uh, which uh, i don't think that the russians are going to 12 or that. so their whole game, i think, in a way, is based on uh, several completely false assumptions. they are behaving live role sheet brokers, assuming that surveys are going to happen for instance. assumption number one is
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that the russell was to negotiate. first of all, where i showed those don't have uh we room to negotiate because after may 20th, it does not recognize the last key as a legitimate president after the 28th of august, that on the parliament to great also won't be able to enjoy the rest of the body to negotiate with so hoarding. i did a go see it with and uh, why would they want to negotiate before the end of the go the bills uh that uh the day itself. and so this is assumption number one that is based that it, or the one was the, apart from the racist thought that russia is going to bile to the white gods from capitol hill and brussels and then to whatever they like. and please, so that is one thing. what we hear constantly from people in the west is that the, the current flight of division is going to be the future border of a 100 or sorry,
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the south korea kind of a supplement. where did they get this story from? so that is, there is one thing. uh, we will see what happens because i'm sure there's a lot of tension in into us, not maybe a about the dr strategy, but uh about how to do that because you have for american dudley. yeah, that means coordinated. yeah. russia, china, north korea, and he run, uh, and you have the american uh, military as a potential. okay. to watch really things like delete this war. so i, i honestly don't though. what really, the one thing one thing is for sure is, is that, um, the client state. let me throw this the alexander now the client state ukraine sees the, the, the real possibility that there will be a change of power in, in the white house, at least, maybe not in the bureaucracy. and that they're,
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they want to hedge their bets. i mean they're, they're obviously see themselves in a very, very weak position. would you look at the news about the financial situation that it isn't given enough coverage and the west me, ukraine is broke. i mean, in bad we broke and that there is no. um, you know, you can, you know, you're getting the, the interest from a russian ass that's, you know, 1300000000 here, 1400000000. that's not going to change their financial situation in new grace. but it's, it's really interesting to me, is it because of the potential change of administration? you have people that are saying this is biden's ward with wind that down. and then you have like people like my mike from pay. oh that, oh, this is really what we, we want to go back to a reagan foreign policy. there's a lot of different things going on at the same time. what are your thoughts exactly? so 1st let me and let me remember once again that to bring is not only broke financially is world politically drastically is no longer a southern states for
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a say some time ago. and at the present moment it is more than a failed state. it almost looks like somalia is the same style, but in europe, so it's not no more, no longer a matter of financially of spots or shape. it has nothing to do with it. it has at the present, only to do with the future of a country. and what country are we going to have in the matter up to 3 years? so what your brain are we going to have if any. so this should be the point to be discussed presently. then at the same time, i think that we should focus on the very specific aspects of american politics. because as we all know, the president of the united states has limited powers. g bad. he realized a lot on the congress, and i believe that it was due to this that mike on bail came to public to give this guy the interview, started to put pressure pressure in donald trump. but at the same time,
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if we remember sam semel, donald trump speech scenario, last 6 to 7 months ago, she was defending and supporting the decision of a land lease to you break. now he wants to put and then to this. but what kind of and this you want to put to, we know that she can approve. she can adopt several executive orders, but no more than that. you will need the support of the congress to make it best, any kind of plan or project for you bring in war presently, which i have to remember. it's a long term war, new brand, since 2014. so it's not only concerning the rest yet, this plan must cover at the same time, aspects of all this. so if you bring in a resistance which is presently no longer, luckily active, but this way too strong in order to what is it all of the museum lansky against the wall and makes seem at least accept any kind of peace deal. the west just stepped
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aside, leaving your brain alone. so no longer, your brain has enough power to have a word to have a say on this topic. so i don't think, i just think they've had this say for a very long time. it, you know, steven the, the, the variable or people like to say the 800 pound gorilla in the corner is quite visible in, in people, in the west, in policy makers ignore it, rushes already presented numerous times. it's a starting point for negotiations. no big deal with the lead. really. obviously the premiums are happy about it because their patrons in the west are not happy about it, but it is a starting point. and that is a way this conflict can come to an end. but until up until the west recognizes the terms and conditions of starting negotiate next, this is not the end a mrs denny day. go ahead, steve. but for us that doesn't have any incentive to believe that the west is going
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to stay to any word or any deal because they have missed one and these 2 and then the number of the, grew by that. but i mean, every thing, all the are eligible by the arsenal was out there. and uh, i mean its starting with the deal that the, uh, the local, which the son of the last it for it was with the, the western countries or the last it for less of by 4 hours. so i don't think the dresser is really motivated at this point where he's has a really huge leverage in the conflict. what i don't get is this discrepancy between what the west wants and what it can do. what the collective data, let's say was that what do you happen to have kids can do? so maybe co, um, let's say, uh, change in washington from, by the to, from,
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from the across. the republicans is to uh, to have a fresh start blessone say in this ongoing global war i have said yeah, did you meet with stephen? i? i think i agree with you in the fresh start. let me throw this to alexandra. now the press start should be read, framing this conflict completely, and that we naming is pan european security architecture that, that's actually a base saving measure as well. if you think about, it's like how do we, okay, we can all disagree and how we got here. but we were at the end, we have an in game where everybody has the indivisibility of security. i know that's a hard sell for western politicians because they don't even know what the word indivisible, in indivisibility of security means. but i think that is a starting point. or alexandria, it shouldn't be, but this please remember that we have the so called rules based order. one that you
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about according to western concepts and idea, all of these means that whatever washington says, it must be followed by all other western european countries. so it shouldn't be an individual ability, it also shouldn't be to prevail, the bracey pulse celebrating the quality. this is not only a customary paysimple in international law, it's also enshrined in the south of the united nation. so therefore, i think that all this should be taken as an, as a starting point. but when we listen to the speech is of course live on that lie. and even during this week, suggesting that you want to harass them to sell into the, to deliver all the money from russian assets to, to support your branyon military efforts. i don't think that we are getting any, any place like that in the, in the meantime. because they just want to pursue their just want to feed the war machine. and when do we, in the same time, listen to the democrats to democratic parties,
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the alternative which allegedly should be kamala, 1st, she likes to reason, and then she likes idea elegy, she's changing her opinion, depending on where the ball. but alexander, is that the perfect the vessel for the deep state? i mean, she's there waiting, sad, it is all my goodness, the boy sheet ok with walker is. alright gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about some real in stay with our team, the the, the, the,
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joe biden. that'll be something for the history books to discuss. okay. the reason why i wanted to talk about, you know, she made these, if he met with the benjamin netanyahu, this really prime minister when he was on is a man american tour that was cut short. um and um, you know, she said that she will not remain silent, which, you know, oh wow, really hit the there were the big sent, you know, was shock waves of around the eco system of those that was a support israel and did so genocidal conflict in gaza, but you know, it's, it's really interesting to me is that, you know, virtue signaling isn't going to do the trick here. ok. i mean, so much of american politics is about that. but there are, there are a number of people and you know, it could be 234 percent of the electorate, but that could make the difference in an election. they're not on teams genocide. so kamala harris, as we mentioned, the 1st part of the program, you know,
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lacking careers, were lacking in knowledge. but if it's a isn't going to get her, isn't gonna get her the votes that she needs. let's put it that way. go head to be exactly or her whole campaign looks to me. you mean uh, judging by the 1st uh video to be seen. uh, it looks like a bank piano, coca cola company as its its very cor press it. it's a, it's a, it's all in virtue, single link and then the language that she uses, she said that she knows the type of guy, the trump is. i mean, what is that? suppose to me, it is that he's really, uh, is really interesting. i mean, because the democratic party has a big, i would say ideological problem and is going to do some soul searching. i think even after this election, because a large portion of its, especially young boulders are completely, i guess the, the surface of boards supporting it. i wouldn't say only he's real,
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but specifically that the knack was policies which are quite harsh as even by the guns would say suicide over these relative stakes. so uh, i think that's her campaign. and what would she do if, if she ever got elected, which i really doubt are 2 completely different things. and the very fact that uh, at the end of the day she met with the knack who is speaking volumes. so i think the, the main problem here for the americans is how to assert the dominant position that they are losing to they are not hiring anymore. and how to lead to, or uh, perhaps in the future. 3 major complex uh the same time. so what they maybe want to do, i, i to be obviously this from the beginning is the balls one so that they could accelerate the, the other bile. so they'll know how is that possible?
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because even if, let's say israel past plays with lab or no, uh, possibly with the ron and the other icons says, uh, added the american gallery. cuz uh, where is the, in the game to this confident. uh, we even know solely looking at the numbers. uh, what is to come out of it and i think that the, the, the answer to this question the doesn't have um and neither of the ones that campbell on i think you know, you'd see that it's really interesting. is it, i agree with you. i mean, if there is no strategy here, there are a lot of tactics involved, but there's no strategy and that's why it's flailing. i'll, when we look at the kind of like the new grade and obviously the sample american backing of israel's genocide will campaign and gaza. oh, alexander and me. that's the fact that, that someone like kamala harris would say that, you know, um,
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she changes what she expresses in busy tube or what's happening to the palestinians . but that is actually an act of cowardice. because, you know, if you be the chief executive deed, i'd say it's as enormous power when it comes to the support of an individual country like israel, but she won't exercise it. okay. and the hurry, you see them saying that she will not be silent, chosen admission, a big will. she might talk about it, but policy isn't going to change this. so think we're that buckled this, you know, be a, be for one. simple reason is that kamala harris is part of the, by the ministration or the last 4 years, the have been totally supportive of israel along all these years. what has so then we change, besides the fact that now she needs to present to the public, the different speech. she must look forget that in united states, it's all about the donors. don't forget football field, don't buy them before the dollars. only they would take the whole don't mind and
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don't forget to buckle the news saying don't there is no longer support to buy than dollars are asking you when buy them to step down us. so it's all about any leads. and at the same time for get national goals, we have to focus on the swing states and presently kamala is losing beat time. all those falls in the spring state. so it comes up only to these elements. she needs to present to the public a totally different speech. not also forget that kamala is preaching popular among the american billy communities. so she needs to bring something completely different because she knows she has been part of the problem. over the last 4 years, she supported blindly, all the solutions brought by the, by the restriction she is the, by the in administration. so we can forget that this change of her speech. i believe that the press should put some pressure on her, at least to ask her what kind of solution this to support. because coming to all the thing i want you to like mentor, you're, you're here,
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you're thinking lights of lawyer. okay. you are okay. i guess the, but i've already watched the media coverage here. all this is such a tongue bath. it's unbelievable. i said after the, the democratic coup against the body. i just said buckle up and embrace for impact . you're going to see the greatest make over in such a short amount of time in a and history and we're seeing it are right now. okay. like i said, it's remarkable how jo buying this has been disappeared. i mean, it is god the book today. and we have a new administration bits of income, but it's really amazing what they're doing. okay. but they have his alexander pointed out, you know, it's basically michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and we are he and then with in those states themselves, it's certainly congressional districts. that's where she has a huge problem,
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and that's what the make over challenges all about. go ahead and see that. exactly . i mean, the whole procedure of getting go from by the into harris was completely, and then we'll grab it. and then we'll credit the procedure because previously by then got the unilateral of that and then the unified, the, sorry, uh, support of the democratic party. and then all of a sudden, uh, they all get scandalized and realized after 4 years that he is indeed they might dementia. and uh, they realize that only during the debates. uh, but this probably was the worst, let's say, uh, that was the worst appearance of biden. in general. i mean, she had some really good moments before the debate. and it seems all decided that they are because they were coordinated indeed efforts to, to get came off of the picture and put harris, which um, i mean, we can build,
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have and try to figure out several z or is why is that? and whether there is a new consensus about the, the trump $2.00. uh that should, uh, you know, make this fresh starts uh, when with the, with the complex may be, i tried to appease the ra, shows. uh and i tried to, but then there's also on the 2nd fault, both is i'm trying to and with that is that russia, if it's samples or whatever b is the, was the well was i look for it will not help you. ron russia has already signed and he's already coordinated in defense way. they're brought with syria, with north korea, which side uh with the in the potentially uh, audi, stone and many other players in the team. and we only get describing, you know, what you're describing. and you know, i talked about this on this program before is
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a with we've been told that we were on the, on the verge of the 3rd world war, i would posit to both of you were already in the 3rd world war. exactly. tell me very started. yeah, exactly. we are and does. there were more and ends the the, the only question is how to frame it, how to sell it. and what was good about trump is that, is she, is she? she was always a good salesman. so why don't he's talking points is that if i, when i will stop the 3rd world war, what he's saying is i will settle a deal with russia and focus on other parts because the major problems from economy to the. busy level of security are not going to be settled with one piece deal. i think that the best well the right, cuz i can't achieve at this moment, but i don't think they have the rationale or the this whole powerhouse wants to,
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has any incentive to do that. is to move to the historical example of the call, sir, to break powers of game off. there's any pulley on moore's, but unfortunately, i don't see niger aside in the american olives, they said political, our power spectrum rooting for him, increasing even, you know, that's one of the major ongoing motives of this program is having rationality and be because the, the global solve understands geo politics. the, the west is a pure a t test and that's why it doesn't work. alexander stephen is absolutely right to me. you know, i don't want to be try to anything that we, when we look for a win win here. no, the west will not allow that. they will not be good for ideological reasons, alexander, personal if they want to collapse. so for us. yeah. and our older blog that's present play is on the same side as russia. they have
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a mentality of funding to which they have to prevail. they want to double syncope, pollution from russia, and it's spell eyes as simple as this. they don't want to leave the, in the peacefully, the peaceful way along with russia and all other countries, they want the profile. they want to impose their ideals or they want to impose it principles. it sadly is as simple as simple as this they, they don't know how to lead along with any other different spaces along with other cultures. they don't know how to do it. that's why they are so allergic to the wording black at the blue, realistic world also to a model mindful arity is what they actually they do support, they will be able to in closing here, america 1st means whatever you want it to mean in the united states. map for most people means mortgage ebony, gentleman that's all the time we have bought a thing my guess in lisbon, in belgrade. or of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are the
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