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the, the in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house supported the corrupt above and governments of southern vietnam. in 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. the pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side, due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese, during this war into total health for the occupants. unable to cope with a guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burnt all alive. the village of my lay,
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where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. all and all. during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the puppet regime. and so i got involved. however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 in vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors. the
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the, the hello and welcome to the cross background peter level here, we discussed some real things. there was talk and maybe only talk you brain is interested in a negotiated into the conflict. what does drugs have to do with this? also, what a harris administration take a different position on the gaza genocide. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, steven guides in belgrade. he is a research associates at build rates, institute of european studies, and in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he is an international legal analyst or a gentleman, cross that rules and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate that. i start out with steve and, you know, it's interesting over the last i'd say 2 weeks. we've had a lot of different um, noise being made, people can call it that. we had a body can, andre, i'm void to t a. and so as he's saying this more must come to an end, we had a picture of a photo bond doing being a real globetrotter going to give,
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going to moscow going to be using and then to be shown when he got back to europe. and then curiously, we have drum still saying that he can end the war and the war before he's, you know, upgraded if elected. we have precious a little information on that. and then we had some of the likes of mike on, peo show up at the republican national convention, basically wanting to trout double down, triple down, wide, triple down. completely at odds, that would trump seemingly his said, but, but there is something going on here. and i think it has to do with the american election, your thoughts exactly. it has to do with the american election, but also with the american grabs strategy. because the americans cannot, they realized over las to use that they can not lead to major wars or be behind 2 major wars at the same time. so what receipt with the possible prompt return might
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be that they want to shut down the premium of the eastern european conflict for awhile and to complete the causal traits on nothing. yahoo was planned to conquer the middle east or to spread the war. uh so what is really important is the message that the napa was sent to the congress. it is also imposing most of that to a lot of colors and did not very come but still have the have she had a very warm welcome after kind of months of. busy of feeling but similarly goes in some diligence. so uh, i think the truck and the west in general wants uh, still maintain your brain. uh which uh, i don't think the directions are going to fall for that. uh, so their whole game, i think in a way is based on uh, several completely false assumptions. they are behaving like bullshit brokers.
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assuming that surveys are going to happen, for instance, assumption number one is that the russell wants to negotiate. first of all, we're also does not have waste room to negotiate because after may 20th, it does not recognize the last key as a legitimate president after the 28th of august. that on the parliament to great also won't be legitimate, a body to negotiate with. so hoarding either to go see it with and uh, why would they want to negotiate before the end of the go the bills uh that the day itself. and so this is assumption number one that is based that or no, or the one walk to the, apart from the racist thought that russia is going to bile to the white gods from capitol hill and brussels and then to whatever they like. and please, so that is one thing. what we hear constantly from people in the west is that the,
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the current in flying of division is going to be the future border of 800 or sorry, the south korea kind of the supplement. where did they get this story from? so that is, there is one thing. uh, we will see what happens because i'm sure there's a lot of tension in into us, not maybe about the growth strategy, but about how to do that. because you have for american dudley. yeah. that means coordinated. yeah. russia, china, north korea and iran and you have the american uh, mail it 3 as a potential. okay. can watch really if there's a delete this war. so i, i honestly don't though. what really funny, but one thing, one thing is for sure is, is that the client state, let me throw this to alexander. now the client state ukraine sees the, the, the real possibility that there will be a change of power in, in the white house,
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at least, maybe not in the bureaucracy. and that they're, they want to hedge their bets. i mean they're, they're obviously see themselves in a very, very weak position. if you look at the news about the financial situation that it isn't giving enough coverage and the west means ukraine is broke. i mean, in bad we broke and that there is no. um, you know, you can, you know, you're getting the, the interest from a russian ass that's, you know, 1300000000 here, 1400000000. that's not going to change their financial situation in new grade. but it's, it's really interesting to me, is it because of the potential change of administration? you have people that are saying this is biden's ward with wind it down and then you have like people like my mike from day oh that, oh, this is really what we, we want to go back to a reagan foreign policy. there's a lot of different things going on at the same time. what are your thoughts exactly? so 1st let me,
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let me remember once again that to bring is not only broke financially is world politically drastically is no longer a southern states for our stay some time ago. and at the present moment it is more than a failed state. it almost looks like somalia is the same style, but in europe, so it's not no more, no longer a matter all financially plus or shape. it has nothing to do with it. it has at the present only to do with the future of a country. and what country are we going to have in the matter up to 3 years? so what your brain are we going to have if any. so this shouldn't be the point to be discussed presently. then at the same time, i think that we should focus on the very specific aspects of american politics. because as we all know, the president of the united states has limited powers. g bad. he realized a lot on the congress, and i believe that it was due to this that mike on bail came to public to give this
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guy the interview, started to put pressure pressure in donald trump. but at the same time, if we remember sam, some of the donald trump speech, some of the last 6 to 7 months ago, she was defending and supporting the decision of a land lease to you break. no, he wants to put and then to this. but what kind of, and does he want to put to? we know that he can approve. he can adopt several executive orders, but no more than that. you will need the support of the congress to make it best, any kind of plan or project for you bring in war presently, which i have to remember. it's a long term war, new brain, since 2014. so it's not the only concerning the rest yet. this plan must cover at the same time, aspects, all, all the spring and resistance, which is presently no longer, luckily active. but this way too strong, in order to evolve gimme zalinski against the wall and make him at least accept any
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kind of peace deal is the west just steps aside leaving your brain a law. so no longer your brain has enough power to have a wired to have a say on discounts like so. i don't think, i just think they've had this a say for a very long time. it, you know, steven the, the, the variable or people like to say the 800 pound gorilla in the corner is quite visible in, in people, in the west, in policy makers ignore it, rushes already presented numerous times. it's a starting point for negotiations. no, no, it would be the lead me obviously the premiums are to happy about him. it's wilcox, their patrons and the west are not happy about it, but it is a starting point and that is a way this conflict can come to an end. but until up until the west recognizes the terms and conditions of starting negotiate next, this is up in this is denny day. go ahead,
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steven. for us that doesn't have any incentive to believe that the west is going to stick to any word or any deal because they have missed one and these 2 and then the number to the girl by that. but i mean, every thing, all the are, all the body arsenal was out there. and uh, i mean, starting with the deal that the, uh, the general go which the summer either that last it for it was with the, the western countries or the last it for less of by 4 hours. so i don't think the dresser is really motivated at this point where he's has a really huge leverage in the conflict. what i don't get is this discrepancy between what the west wants and what it can do. what the collective natal, i'd say was that what do you happen to have kids can do. so maybe the oh um,
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let's say, uh, change in washington from by then to from, from that across the republicans is to uh to have a fresh start black and say in this ongoing global war i have said, yeah, did you meet with stephen? i, i think i agree with you in the fresh start. let me throw this to alexandra. now the press start. she read framing this conflict completely in that we naming is pan european security architecture that, that's actually a base saving measure as well. if you think about, it's like how do we, okay, we can all disagree and how we got here, but we were at the end, we have an in game where everybody has the indivisibility of security. i know that's a hard sell for western politicians because they don't even know what the word indivisible, in indivisibility of security means. but i think that is a starting point or alexandria. it shows me but this,
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please remember that we have the so called rules based or their mortgage about according to western concepts. and the ideal of use means that whatever washington says it must be followed by all other western european countries. so it shouldn't be an inability, it also should be to prevail, the bracy, paul, celebrated quality. this is not only a customary paysimple and it does, it has the law, it's also enshrined in to shut that off the united nation. so therefore, i think that all this should be taken as an, as a starting point. but when we listen to the speech is of course live on that lie. and even during this week, suggesting that you want to harass them to sell into the, to deliver all the money from russian assets to, to support you branyon military efforts. i don't think that we are getting any, any place like that in the, in the meantime. because they just want to pursue their just want to feed the war
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machine. and when do we, in the same time, listen to the democrats, the democratic party, the alternative to which allegedly should be kamala, 1st, she likes galleries and then she likes ideology. she's changing her opinion, depending on where the ball but alexander is that the perfect vessel for the deep state. i mean, she's there waiting, edited all my goodness, the boy sheet. okay. with milk or is alright settlement. i'm going to jump in here . we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our to special events and we'll and stay with our team. the take a fresh look around a life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power. a good vision with no real live indians.
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fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills and is it just because it shows you fractured images, present it is, but can you see through their illusions, going underground? can the the welcome make across that time peter live out here. we discussed some williams. all right, let's go back to steve. it's a comfortable, harrison. so the, the, the big name and the news right now. um, uh,
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i think that is really interesting how quickly everyone's forgotten, joe biden, that'll be something but the history books to discuss. okay. the reason why i wanted to talk about, you know, she made these and she met with the benjamin netanyahu. these really prime minister when he was on is a man american tour that was cut short. um and um, you know, she said that she will not remain silent, which it, oh wow, really hit the bare with the bid sent, you know, a shock waves of around the eco system of those. oh, who's a support israel and it's genocidal conflict in gaza. but, you know, it's, it's really interesting to me is that, you know, virtue signaling isn't going to do the trick here. ok, i mean, so much of american politics is about that. but there are, there are a number of people and you know, it could be 2 or 34 percent of the electorate, but that could make the difference in an election. they're not on teams genocide. so kamala harris, as we mentioned, the 1st part of the program, you know,
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lacking christmas, lacking in knowledge. but if it's the isn't going to get her, isn't going to get her the votes that she needs. let's put it that way. go ahead to be exactly or her whole campaign looks to me. you mean, judging by the 1st video that we've seen, it looks like a big piano. coca cola company as it's, it's very core press it. it's a, it's a, it's, it's all in virtue, singling and then the language that she uses, she said that she knows the type of guy, the trump is. i mean, what is that? suppose to me, it is that he's really, uh, is really interesting. i mean, because the democratic party has a big, i would say, i be a logical problem and is going to do some soul searching. i think even after this election because a large portion of its especially young boulders are completely, i guess the surface of boards supporting it. i wouldn't say only he's real but,
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but specifically that the knack was policies which are quite harsh. and even betty guns would say suicide over these relative stakes. so uh, i think that her campaign and what would she do if, if she ever got elected, which i really doubt are 2 completely different things. and the very fact that uh, at the end of the day she met with the knack who is speaking volumes. so i think the, the main problem here for the americas is how to assert the dominant position that they are losing to they are not hiring anymore. and how to lead to, or, uh, perhaps in the future. 3 major complex uh, the same time. so what they may be want to do, i, i to be obviously this from the beginning is to pause one so that they could
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accelerate the, the other bile. so they'll know how is that possible? because even if, let's say israel, i escalates with lab or no, uh, possibly with the ron and the other icons says, uh, added the america gallery comes, uh, where is the, in the game to this stop that. uh we even, you know, solely looking at the numbers uh, what is to come out of it. and i think that the, the, the answer to this question that doesn't have um, neither of the but that one se campbell, i think, you know, you had seen that it's really interesting. is it, i agree with you. i mean, if there is no strategy here, there are a lot of tactics involved, but there's no strategy and that's why it's flailing. i'll, when we look at the kind of like the new grade and obviously the sample american backing of israel's genocide will campaign in gaza. oh, alexander, i mean, that's the fact that, that someone like kamala harris would say that, you know, um,
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she changes what she expresses in busy tube for what's happening to the palestinians. but that is actually an active cowardice because you know, he'll be the chief executive, the dotted states as enormous power when it comes to a support of an individual country like israel. but she won't exercise it. okay. and it's very easy even saying that she will not be silent, shows an admission a big will. she might talk about it, but policy isn't going to change this. so think we're that buckled this, you know, be a, be for one simple reason is that kamala harris is part of the, by the ministration or the last 4 years that have been built, always supportive of israel along all these years. what has so then we change, besides the fact that now she needs to present to the public, the different speech. she must left forget that in united states it's all about the donors. don't forget foot buckle joe by the door. the don't. there's only they
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would take the whole don't mind and don't forget to buckle the news saying don't there is no longer support to buy than dollars are asked and you one buy them to step down. so it's all about any leads. and at the same time, forget national goals, we have to focus on the swing states, and presently kamala is losing beat time. all those falls in the spring state. so it comes up only to these elements. she needs to present to the probably a totally different speech. don't also forget that kamala is speaking popular among the for american billy communities. so she needs to bring something completely different because she knows she has been part of the problem. over the last 4 years, she supported blindly, all the solutions brought by the, by the restriction she is the, by the in administration. so we can forget that this change of his speech. i believe that the press should put some pressure on her,
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at least to ask her what kind of solution this to support. because coming to all the thing, i want you to like manner you're, you're here, you're thinking lights of lawyer. okay. you are okay. i guess the, but i've already watched the media coverage here out. this is such a told him about, it's unbelievable. i said after the, the democratic 2 against a by the i just said buckle up and embrace spray impact. you're going to see the greatest make over in such a short amount of time in a, in history and we're seeing it are right now. okay, why can't you guys, i'd say it's remarkable how jo buying this has been disappeared. i mean, he's gone today and we have a new administration bits of income, but it's really amazing what they're doing. okay. but they have his alexander pointed out, you know, it's basically michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and the gear. and then with the in those states themselves, it's certainly congressional districts. that's where she has
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a huge problem. and that's what the make over challenge is all about. go ahead and see that. exactly. i mean, the whole procedure of getting go from by the into harris was completely and then we'll grab it. and then we'll credit the procedure because previously, by then got the unilateral done, and then the unified, the, sorry, uh, support of the democratic party. and then all of a sudden, uh, they only get scandalized and realized after 4 years that he is indeed they might dementia. and they realize that only during the debates. uh, but this probably was the worst, let's say, uh, that was the worst appearance of bite. and in general, i mean, she had some really good moments before the debate. and it seems all of us are there because they were coordinated in the efforts to, to get came off of the picture and put harris, which um, i mean,
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we can bill to have and try to figure out several z or is why is that? and whether there is a new consensus about that, the trump $2.00. uh that should uh, you know, make this fresh starts uh, when with the, with the complex re, it'd be, i tried to appease the ra shows and i tried to, but there's also, and the 2nd full 2 pulses i'm trying to. and with that is that russia, if it's samples or whatever piece the was the well was i look for, it will not help your on russia has already signed. and he's already coordinated in the files way they're brought with syria, with north korea, which side uh with the in the potentially uh, audi, stone and many other players in the me. but we only use describing, you know,
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what you're describing in, you know, a talked about this on this program before is a, we've been told that we were on the, on the verge of a 3rd world war. i would posit to both of you were already in the 3rd world war. exactly. it's already started. yeah, exactly. we are and does, there were more. and then the, the, the only question is how to frame it, how to sell it. and what was good about trump is that, is she, is she? she was always a good salesman. so why don't he's talking points? is that if i, when i will stop the 3rd world war, what he's saying is i will settle a deal with russia and focus on other parts because the major problems from economy to the global security are not going to be settled with one piece deal. i think that the best well the right cuz i can't achieve at this moment,
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but i don't think they have the rationale or the this whole powerhouse wants to, has any incentive to do that is to move to the historical example of the call sort of race powers of game off. there's any bully on wars, but unfortunately i don't see niger aside in the american olives, they said political hard power spectrum rooting for him, increasing even. you know, that's one of the major ongoing motives of this program is having rationality and be because we'll be with global solve understands geo politics. the, the west is a pure a t test and that's why it doesn't work. alexander stephen is absolutely right to me. you know, i don't want to be try to anything that we, when we look for a win win here, no, the west will not allow that. they will not be good for ideological reasons. alexandra, personal if they want to collapse. so for us. yeah. and on old,
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the block that's present play is on the same side as russia. they have a mentality of funding to which they have to prevail. they want, don't think of pollution from russia and it's spell eyes as simple as this. they don't want to leave the, in the peacefully, the peaceful way along with russia and all other countries they want the profile. they want to impose their ideals, or they want to impose in principles that sadly, is as simple as simple as this. they, they don't know how to lead along with any other different spaces along with other cultures. they don't know how to do it. that's why they are so allergic to the wording. black, a blue, realistic world, also to a model mindful arity is what they actually they do support, they will be able to in closing here, america 1st means whatever you want it to mean in the united states map for most people means mortgage ever the gentleman that's all the time we have what
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