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washington, as more americans questioned that government's backend, other regime seen as a liability. joining me now from tel aviv is down the island, israel's former deputy foreign minister, next ambassador of israel to the united states. and by staff. welcome back to the program. as being for you is given is rose actions of lead to a run. now almost daily, threatening your country. as a former advisor to an admin, yahoo, a former investor to the usa. do you believe it? ron has nuclear weapons already front, it's the on the bottom, a deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would lose in any conflict against iran. yeah. well, 1st of all, actually it's good to be with you again a little uh, took us a few years to uh, reconnect. nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, and i will tell you, i don't think that they are quite capable of designating the device. uh, although they may be on the customer feet. they do have uh enrich uranium not uh
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you know, what, not great, but enough to turn it into the web. and then the dates, it will take them a few more months. its not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a uh, a terror. evarado. see, i have the run over a very radical machine, very uh, items a dangerous one. and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about a new hedge and money where they would like to take over. uh, the middle is the why they're using their love using us. it was obviously iran saying that not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said,
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do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew? i think oh, actually i think it's the is still the safest way. ready to be a jo, unfortunately, as you mentioned, um the only yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge may be of next year. having nuclear weapons. we've seen all the resistance which is why is it safe to be jewish? because right. because because god describe the wrong and the danger from the diesel, you have to picture the other half. of course, these are the search capabilities, you know, on the 14th of april, a few months ago. ready they launched for the 1st time and that also shows by the way, yeah, the narratives. busy than 300 different rockets and, and drones all over the bus one where the intercepted and investor, we know that the around says that those were deliberate decoys to good intelligence
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. but if i was going back to this point, you know, how many jewish people are immigrating from israel? your call is in titles and people are leaving a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, uh actually i, i live here and i talk to people. um, you know, um these riley's jewels if large and what we like to complain to uh, discuss it to uh look at that issue from every corner but. busy no rays are saying and actually we are more just coming from abroad, especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i also use where is the standard today in the world for various reasons, but say some of them are downright and i submitted and i'm very, somebody's also rice. and by the i just submitted, ah, you know, i'm actually moving it up, you know, where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to them and you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between the
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november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will leaving their leaving? because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong. and if you look at just maybe even wants to be great, you know, to lead. they keep their families here. so they are very, very much bye and the. busy when the war started, we were, you know, savage, the attack, the message or the family service of october. we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's will lead abroad. were on the doors a girl, and they were all gone, virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not a problem whatsoever. is rarely, these readies are white and resilient. we live way you, you know,
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why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because the jewish at the authorities, it is real. keep talking about how israel is a place that say for years when many use i would say in the d as per say, that was and what is the time to visit? why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resistance strikes on? shouldn't match most ad unit 8200 just in the past few days, because uh that's it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel, black out of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again i, i think that you want to pray into propaganda either from tara, she's below the one. i don't know, as i'm just sorry, i'm just asking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there's, there's nothing happened with the reporting restrictions. and since you did it at 5
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am on all these really media because all of them were interested to see you there is, there is one thing every bank currently does. well, you know, we are an open country press errands. we really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything here, and so you didn't see any bombs falling on zillow or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because the failed. why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful is there was no binding. all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up unless that unit hey do under the gym. bet were actually hit hard. no, no, no, no 3, actually i just drove by this morning. uh everything is intact. um there was a 3, a restriction uh the restriction was only 4 days, rarely
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a pre emptive attack. and this was because of their a security considerations and uh, and that was it. but they do look at uh the results. yes. the be try to launch a why to if you can't remember the number, but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did it. oh these. all right, sorry about that because reporting restrictions i'm a journalist reporting restrictions were imposed. anything you say we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government is banning during the storm covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from a hospital entry level hospital on wiseman street and tel aviv? why duty is riley's put the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel aviv labs in israel y. and i'm not sure that this is the case. you know you for the
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stupid ass the same as why the pentagon or why the in the ministry of defense, of people in their own efforts would be located in the capital. and where the page is going to is all 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why did the israelis place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no a deliberate say no working the new schools or anything like that. and in any case, the uh, the schools are say, is telling me the say because we have the best or miss old ballistic. the defense ever. and this is why you see how to run and because by the same side and again, where does piece by law a successful when they use our validly, it communities, when they do it, when they target the civilian homes. and when they do that, say, you know,
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when they don't get or grown a, uh, an open field, it is what you see. but they are not coming in, not to be your back because they know it would be devastating. the uh, the situation is that this is well, is now fighting a loads. i x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational and logical less, rosie you still quite save your and their results are back. on the one hand, you know, you guys, uh we have a mouse which is turned guys up into one major bumper. uh, 400 the meters a or one seats action deep house. and we both a layer and uh, i was a thousands of dollars. i was a very, a 100 of uh,
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i was just below the results i was and we are taking them out and then operating banning janice from being able to cover the operation by these really government. we don't have successful. you being bid regarding why israel put their military facilities near the jewish homes and jewish schools, you'd find it acceptable then for resistance voices to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed. say the trick, it's a little while it's middle. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters, so it's just an acceptable collateral damage or no, i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters, which are offices. you have their offices, you don't have their guns, we don't, they have the missiles or launchers and not at all, like she's by law. and some of us were putting their launches inside the homes where we live. it wasn't the lebanese resistance offices at west b route, utah. it's just,
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there were offices where they just like the office each elevate as well. these are offices with their offices. unfortunately, you have done ours do not. and there are no guns at this. it is rarely, military headquarters on fire has been street and tele be, you know, you'll have there, you have the people who go to work, you know, the offices, and it's not in need here in the military headquarters dispatch but not in new jersey installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us, when they started, they are operation for their attack on the 7th of silver. and then they launched hundreds of pieces. how many uses somebody's launching now? 0. why? because we systematically took them out because we know how to do better says the same thing may happen, which is, but uh, if we decide these people that does not the, let's say why it down just below we're not supposed to united nation the security
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cause it was originally so that you know, one by which they have to pull out. they are illegal uh, military units. we chose our goals, but to be, uh, i'd say it's an issue that has to be according to 17. 0 one it has to be december. they did not do that. we will have to take care of that, right. okay, i'm asking you to see the bloomers. the adjust invested on the island of stop you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm pastor of israel to the united states after this break, the, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people.
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a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law. then to the patient, we should be very careful about personal intelligence. the point obviously, is to make a truck rather than fit the various jobs. i mean with the artificial intelligence we have summoning the theme in the robot must protect this phone. existence was alexis the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former is really deputy foreign minister, next, and baskets of israel to the united states. danny alone and basta, thank you so much. as i said, for your explanations, in part one of how you say the operations in is really being very successful. as i
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said, you, unless i'm not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities and the ones you just made and bought one. but then what about these torture programs that i'm being covered in these riley media? what's the reason for as well as torture programs? it's a day t man in the negative prison. the u. n. special rapids are alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs, prisoners as well. uh, actually do you remember the rate of the, the american installation uh, when you talk about the united states when talk about is a fully democratic countries with the law. then there isn't going to be many people . would many people around the world don't think it'd be united states or israel, of countries or by the rule of a rule there presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that. but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them
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or trying to be in china or easily ron or a russian. so uh, i think uh we have to really understand we, i'm sorry, what was going to do with the torture and the negative prism got because because i wanted to say the, just like the united states is where there was a little small. and why still are you loud? and there was no forward year is randy james and each some am let's say well the soldiers will jailers are doing anything just legal. not only they were taken out, they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i bet you are referring to one case where we have, i mean, these really, sorry, it's actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers. and they are now under boys investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional. and, and you know,
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to every cooler portion of the original exception. but the, it's not like g the wrong or the other kind of thing any was to hear what is demanding, raping, expectation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last i heard of the things like this is apple grave and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states show most americans in the united states favour a palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh full, my boss is only option is to join the united states in to this conflict and they run, i don't bicycle have not been biding since the israeli assassination of as well. any a and the, or what, what does israel going to do when the united states, the, whether it be this generational, the next is good by israel. we have israel because of what israel does as regards human rights violations. we are quite capable of defending ourselves by ourselves.
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lay. ready sorry to jump so quickly, but you're not value because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are you, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states, the defense 8 to nature, to south korea, to japan, each 100 times what the are doing with is with, with these rights more security corporation, they enjoy our technology, their enjoy, our strategic and tactical that i didn't say he innovations and also the us, and these was our natural elyse because of assistance. you know, the democracy's support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is what is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and is they need and they barriers east to have stability in the region.
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their interest is that not to, to have um, oil prices a height they know easily it can take care of. why do i care of it by controlling arab neighbors? i don't, well it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices like sending in arms to israel? i mean, actually i was gonna ask about the about that. um, that is your view that the gods opperation which as i said, may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say, 5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states. that's the proportion of numbers killed and guys are, according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now? is that every arrow being garza and christian needs to go to the sinai? does it know? so 1st of all, let me just correct one thing when i was hoping, but what prices,
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you know, get the reduced to being the, the least low prices are being dictated. basically in the gulf countries, united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply, they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and everything goes with it. so this is why they need to be, this is why they need a strong basement where it is ready to. origin was heard on the 7th of october. it was very important to re establish these, these areas. how do you really establish these areas by meaning it gets old for the service of tauriel. enjoy the tyrants anymore. there's 11, use me bombing his railing. the past few days, the ron bombed israel for the 1st time ever in the past few months. human is a booming israel, i don't even remember when he lost it, that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why on the hood you,
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you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually, you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in tacit all around the world as well. yes. and this is very unfortunate and again, dear, i think that the true story is not being reviewed. like you are telling me about millions of, uh, thousands being killed, which is not think of, uh, even near the st. millions of proportion. it's based on the british version. yes. click on it for fortunately, these, these, these not corrosive because i tell you what they had the boss stairs because they are mostly you. so at the bell, no official. now do we know you're not allowing john? listen, listen, we are in guys. you know, do you guys right now? there's another guy here. you guys have, i'd like you to,
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to guys are in your deliberately not allowing john leslie, because you'll be very, you'll be very welcome. when he'd say right now, you will be trapped, old terroristic batches. and we're taking care of decision di, because we want to spare the guys of people who are not doing both. but most of the people that were killed were, are because they were from us members. and somebody us is the, what are you from sales and positioning themselves? nothing. you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing you and this in your thing. it's not safe. i was in damascus during the war, which is well supported against the side, with the european union in the united states. they didn't have a problem with journalists going in, well, uh, there was a, your old boss. net and you know, treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of a. why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said it was the controller, a television station. you're on this guitar, a television station saying you want to,
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people have guys that to go to sign. that is that still your view? i don't know what they meant was that they should clear the way, you know, it was innocent civilians in guys that should be under way. these were the best. well that's the. ready way so the, some us, you know, i would face is really military face to face model a model and not the. busy go behind the what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind the civil populations that they work saturday, the hours of operations, no more. because the to out all there. uh, this is it is and now is some of the ration, but i can tell you that i'll, i'll give you some numbers and you're not very fiber because they come from from us . and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist. and the racial $1.00 to $1.00 is the lowest in
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the allowing janice in. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that so 2000000 palestinian 2000000 or both indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of the so then the 2000000 can then come back to god. so is that your plan and the plan of netanyahu? yeah, well this. well yeah. but obviously this land and the lakes and. ready this is wide and so unfortunately some casualties among the civilians. but the, the plan for guys is very simple. each to view radicalize goes into the unit to rise, does it as it used to be, according to the international agreements when this happens. and of course, we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005, august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page,
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given us, hopefully up to a new era. that's a mass over they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheap housing authority officials. they took over as you all right. you know, you can't lie other day than you in the west bank where we're running out of time. i've just got to ask you, you loan wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords at why do you think it is or it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and yahoo administration. and it's people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than ever. you have an economy intact as jews a leaving whole mess and you're preparing for the onslaught. i think nobody's resistance and the mainland government saying, oh, the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the miller till they anytime soon. i as well,
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i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. these are for the prison off the ryan, and that is belong to struggling not true. they have their teachers maybe to kind of bolster their own the equal and maybe more out because they are really low. busy very low point and i would say one, but there was only one solution or be said prosperity in the middle east is that it is from sony countries, israel, united states, and nato, heavy and alliance. as we are heading now against the forces of people which are the running, they have told us, piece by law, how boss and the high been forced is north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is winning and which camp will continue to read and i got one more thing, the golf companies and so on. are you ready? yeah, they is ready see knowledge because they have problems. they'll just add the security
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issues from may you run the switch some wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available this, this is where is what is number one in the world. okay. but it's number one that's dealing walter according to the role and why they're going to choose the countries of friends with anyone. but every one i, i should say, and certainly uh, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the russian china understand what to what nato is doing. of course, in west, in your a. but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the line such figures? then this amman and british journal saying that a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. a u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain or 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well, again,
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i think you're is mrs. born, always downright blind. and you mentioned this is like is, was positioning in the world is not the best because of the labels and with the allies, it gets us which, you know, we are not very yeah, capable of dyslexia because they're busy going great. i would love that all the study was here with you. why would they make what a delightful, you're not comparing them, the hon. so to the nazis i, they are, i would say that the, i have told us of the wrong we, there proxies like this is blah and do you know, one in there she, i, e, l, i swear there is the she, i, the missions you, the rock or in syria or the image medical journal. are they well, they, they, are they downright terrorist and, you know, unfortunately, you know, well or the ever, i say why you say, but we're out of time about them. thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the
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