the weather is inside, the price is good to watch the news. well, let me see should, you know, wasn't cheaper to use the white glove service cost, but he's because of the savings just because i'm actually in redundancy and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. 85 years since the 2nd world war erupted with germany's invasion opponent the world that faces the threats of another catastrophic conflict. this time ignited by as well as relentless war and garza, the british lance at john. unless the mates perhaps 186000. 0, nearly 10 percent may have been killed don't. does john list infants entire

families wipe from existence all under the guise of self defense? back by the united states. we just funneled over 50000 tons of weapons and military hardware and j. israel's austell. but beneath israel is much warranted and don't lies, a nation in turmoil, fractured by the political divisions of military reportedly stretched in an international reputation that's plummeting. is israel up up to self destruction and how much longer can we count on washington? as more americans questionnaire governments, backing other regime seen as a liability. joining me now from tel aviv is down the island, israel's former deputy foreign minister, next ambassador of israel to the united states. a staff welcome back to the program has been for years a given is rose actions have led to a run now almost daily, threatening your country as a former advisor to an admin. yahoo, a former investor to the usa. do you believe it? ron has nuclear weapons already front, it's the on the form and deputy boss of is really intelligent thing. israel would

lose in any conflict against iran. that was the 1st of all the options, but to be with you again a little while. took us a few years to reconnect. nevertheless, i enjoyed your show. so a body, ron, i will tell you, i don't think that they are quite capable of designating that you agree with the vice. although they may be on the customer. they do have enrich uranium not uh you know what not we have a great but enough to try to use the web. and then the dates, it will take them um 2 more months if not a year or so to recognize it. uh, so i don't think that they have it, but i think that is quite clear today with all, as you mentioned, catastrophic events uh, in the middle east and beyond that uh, the wrong use actually they, they had offer a uh, a terror. evarado. see, i got the run over very, very, very, uh, items

a dangerous one and they are actually using proxies around the lease that even gone back to. um, i guess bring about a new hedge of money where they would like to take over. uh, the middle is the why they're using their love using us. it was obviously a run say that not proxies. these are just resistance groups that support iran. but having said what you just said, do you think now that is really the most dangerous place in the world to be a jew or i think, oh, it's a big it's the is still the safest way. ready to be a jewel, unfortunately, as you mentioned and then we yeah. how you literally just told me that iran is on the verge, maybe of next year. having nuclear weapons. we've seen all the resistance, was it, why is it safe to be jewish? because right? because because describe the wrong and the danger from the i thought he's only half

the picture. the other half, of course, is our, the search capabilities. you know, on the 14th of april, a few months ago. ready they launched for the 1st time and that also shows by the way, yeah, that the, losing their nerves more than 300 different rockets and, and drones all of the bus one where he intercepted and um, the best thing we know that the ron says that those were deliberate decoys to get intelligence, but if i was going back to this point, you know, how many jewish people are immigrating from israel? your call is in titles and people are leaving a mess from israel to i don't think so. you know, i actually, i, i live here and i talk to people, you know, these riley's jewels at large. my, we like to complain to uh, discuss that to uh, you know, look at that issue from every corner but. busy know these rays are saying and actually we are more just coming from abroad,

especially from the united states. and here again, you mentioned, you know, i also use what is the standard to bring to for various reasons, but say some of them are downright and i submitted and i'm very, somebody's also rise. and by the i just submitted, ah, you know, i'm actually moving it up, you know, where you're only get onto that. i do want to get on to them and you just said people are leaving 30000 official figures leaving up till much between the november and much. so what are you talking about why these $30000.00 jews will leaving their leaving? because israel is not a safe place to be jewish any more? surely. no, i think i think the solutions are wrong. and you look at, uh, just may even wants to emigrate, you know, to leave. they keep their families here. so they are very, very much bye and the, you know, when the war started, we were, you know, savage, the attack, the messic,

the favorite service of october. we had thousands. if not more, of these riley's who lived abroad were on the joys of rhodes. they were all come virginia and there were no places on the, on the coming slides. so this is not a problem whatsoever. is rarely, these readies are quite resilient. we live way you, you know, why am i asking anyway, i'm asking, i'm asking because i is, did you, is your thoughts or it is, it is real, keep talking about how is rarely is a place that say for years when many jews i would say and that the as per say, that was and what the time to visit. why do you think israel media was banned from reporting on lebanese resistance strikes on sion batch. most ad unit 8200, just in the past few days because that's it was a 5 am reporting restriction in israel, blackout of all media. why was the media band from reporting on the successful

resistance strikes on most ad unit, a transition bit less, a very good question. there was nothing to report about. and again, i think that you want to pray into propaganda either from tara, she's below the one. i don't know as i'm just sorry, i'm just asking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. why there, there's nothing happened with the reporting restrictions institute. did it 5 am on all of these really media because all of them were interested in the c s. e. there is, there is one thing every bank currently does were, you know, we are in the open country press errands. we really very, very energetic press. you cannot hide anything here. and so you didn't see any boss following, going to have a or anywhere else is just because it didn't have because i was when i failed,

why would you need to put reporting restrictions? yeah, usually you should be crying about it and saying how successful is or it was not binding. all of these really media from covering it unless you're trying to cover something up unless that unit, hey do under the gym. bet were actually hit hard. no, no, no, no 3, actually i just drove by this morning. uh, everything is intact. uh, there was a 3, a restriction uh the restriction was only 4 days, rarely preemptive attack. and this was because of the security uh, considerations and uh, and that was it. but if you look at uh the results, yes the be try to launch a why to if you uh, can't remember the number but with it being given uh in the hundreds. but they were all taken before they even launched and we did oh, these all right. sorry about that because reporting restrictions i'm a journalist reporting restrictions were imposed. anything you say?

we cannot be corroborated because these are in the government as binding during the storm covering it. why does the israeli military headquarters? why is it 450 meters from a hospital entry level hospital on wise when street in tel aviv? why duty is riley's put the military structures near hospitals and schools in tel aviv labs in israel y. and i'm not sure that this is the case, you know, you for this stupid ass the same as why the pentagon or why the in the ministry of defense of england, their own efforts would be located in the capital. and where the page is going is not 450 meters from one of washington's biggest shopping malls. why do these riley's place the facilities near hospitals and schools? there is no and deliberate say no. ready was in the near schools or anything like that. and a, in any case the, the schools are say,

is telling me the say because we have the best or miss old ballistic the defense ever. and this is why you see how to run. and because by the same time and again, where does piece by law a successful when they use our daily communities, when they do it, when they target a civilian homes. and when they do that, say, you know, when they do gets or grown a, uh, uh, an open steals. uh, it is what you see. but they are not coming in knots and will be your back because they know it would be devastating. the, uh, the situation is that this is what it is now. by d. a molds i x runs war. but as far as our intelligence capabilities, as far as our operational and logical, less realty,

you still quite save your and their results are back on the one hand, you know, you guys, uh, we have some us which turned guys up into a one major bumper. uh, 400 the meters a or one seats extra in the house and we multi layer and uh i was a thousands of dollars. how much is that? a 100 of uh, i'm just below the results i toes and we're taking them out in the know for rachel, banning janice from being able to cover the operation by the israeli government. we don't have successful you being bit regarding why israel put their military facilities near the jewish homes and jewish schools. you'd find it acceptable them for resistance voices to as collateral. damage is rarely hospitals to be destroyed, say the interest, it's a little while it's little. if that gets destroyed, it's right next to the military headquarters, so it's just an acceptable collateral damage. you know,

i tell you what once you are referring to is just headquarters, which are offices. you have the offices, you don't have the guns, we don't have the missiles or launchers and not at all, like she's by law. and, and some of us were putting their launches inside the homes where we live. it wasn't, it wasn't the lebanese resistance offices at westbury route, utah. it's just there were offices wednesday just like the office. we tell every as well, these are offices with their offices. unfortunately, you have done ours. do not. and there are no guns at this is really military headquarters on file has been street and tele be you know, why don't you have there, you have the people who go to work, you know, the officers and it's not in need there. and it's a military headquarters dispatch but not in new jersey installation. and by the way, again, you know, if you look at the results from us when they started,

they are operation for their attack on the 7th of october. and then they launched hundreds of pieces. how many uses somebody's launching now? 0. why? because we systematically took them out because we know how to defend. it says the same thing may happen, which is, but if we decide these people that does not the, let's say why it down just but i will not suppose to united nation the security council resolutions $171.00 by which they have to pull out. they are illegal, the military units. you chose our goals, but to be i'd say it's just the militia that has to be according to 17. 0 one has to be december. they did not do that. we will have to take care of that. right? yeah, that's exactly the blooms the address investment then the add on of stop you that more from the former is really deputy foreign minister. next, i'm pastor of israel to the united states after this break the,

there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington. as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on line. we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't to know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better. the answer is will be what i would sure seemed wrong. just don't you have to shape house to come after kids and engagement equals the trails when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for

common ground, the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former is really deputy foreign minister. next and basket of israel to the united states, downey island and bass, to thank you so much. as i said, for your explanations. in part one of how you say the operations in is really being very successful. as i said, you, unless i'm not allowed to go in and verify the claims made by israeli authorities and the ones you just made about one. but then what about these torture programs that are being covered in these riley media? what's the reason for as well as torture programs? it's a day to email and in the negative prison the you and special rapids or alice deal edwards, itemizing jews sexually torturing arabs, prisoners as well. uh,

actually do you remember upgrade uh the, the american installation. uh, when are you talking about the united states? what i'm talking about is a fully democratic countries with a little slow. then there isn't going to be many people with many people around the world. don't think it'd be united states or his trail of countries or by the rule of a rule. there. presidential candidate donald trump doesn't believe that the united states is currently a country of little over that. but, but still i see millions of people are trying to come to america. i don't see them are trying to do to china. ready easily run already to russia, so uh, i think uh we have to really understand we have, i'm sorry, what was going to do with the torture and the negative prison. got because because i wanted to say just like the united states is where there was a little small and watch the review review letter and there was no forward your is randy james. any, some am let's a rogue. the soldiers,

jailers are doing anything, just legal, not only they are taken out, they are charged and they're bugs. they're staying prison. i bet you are referring to one case where we have, i mean, these really, oh, sorry, it's actually arrested 5 people, 5 jailers. and they are now under boeing's investigation and, and trials. so this is barely exceptional. and you know, to every rule unfortunately the original exception. but the, it's not like to the wrong or the other kind of thing any, was to him what is demanding raping explanation of prisoners in the run. i mean, the last i heard of the things like this is apple graham and it was the united states carrying out because polls in the united states show most americans in the united states favour a palestinian state. i mean, clear now that your uh, full, my boss is the only option is to draw the united states in to this conflict. and

iran, i don't buy to have not been buying since the israeli assassination of as well. any a and the, or what, what is this real going to do when the united states, the, whether it be this generation or the next is good by israel. we hate israel because of what israel does is regards human rights violations. we are quite capable of sending our sales by our sales. ready sorry to jump so quickly, but you're not valued because that's why the americans are giving you tens of billions or hundreds of millions of dollars weapons without the united states. you are, you don't have a country. i don't think so. if you look at the united states as defense, age to nature, to south korea, to japan, it's 100 times where the are doing with his with, with this right? small rock security corporation,

they enjoy our technology. they're enjoy our strategic and tactical lead. um, i would say he'd be innovations and also the us and use was our natural elyse because of assistance. you know, the democracies support democracy is not only that is where they know that the united states is what is the most dependable l i of the united states in the region at all. and these they need, and they barriers east to have stability in the region. their interest is that not to, to have um, oil prices, a height they know is what it can take care of and why, why care of it by controlling arab neighbors. i don't know, it's how the you a, what do you mean controlling oil prices by sending in homes to israel? i mean, actually i was gonna ask about, it's a about that. um, that is your view that the gods opperation which as i said,

may have killed 10 percent of the population, which is equivalent of killing, say, 5 and a half 1000000 people in britain, 27000000 people in the united states. that's the proportion of numbers killed in kaiser according to the estimates from the lancet british ship medical journal. is it your view that what needs to happen now? is that every arab and guys i'm christian needs to go to the sinai. does it know? so 1st of all, let's we just correct one thing when i was hoping by boat prices, you know, get the reduced to be being that the least oil prices are being dictated. basically in the gulf countries, united states, although it is now self sufficient on energy supply, they don't need an oil prices high because it's inflation and everything goes with it. so this is why they need to be, this is why they need a strong. busy is where, where it is ready to. origin was heard on the 7th of october.

it was very important to re establish these, the parents. how do you really establish these parents? by me it gets old rare. and the subjects of tauriel. uh and the tyrants anymore. the level needed to be bombing his railing. the past few days, the ron bombed israel for the 1st time ever in the past few months. human is a booming israel. i didn't even remember when it lasted, that it doesn't have any deterrence, but i'm just asking why on the hood, you, you think that the oil prices in any way a to, to do it this and whether the, the numbers killed actually, you know, the, israel's reputation right now is in tacit all around the world as well. yes, and this is very unfortunate and again, dear, i think that the true story is not being revealed. like you are telling me about millions of uh, dozens being killed, which is not big off. uh, even near the tank,

millions is proportionate based on the british or is it? yeah, it's a good proportion that these, these, these not gross because i tell you what they are the boss stairs because they are mostly here. so at the bell, no official. now do we know you're not allowing john? listen, listen, we are in gaza. you know that you guys right now. there's another year where you guys have, i'd like you to, to guys are in your deliberately no allowing john, unless the guys you'll be very, you'll be very welcome. when it say right now, the sold will be draft, it's own terroristic batches, and we're taking care of it and stating die because we want to spare. they've got some people who are not involved, but most of the people that were killed were, are because they were from us members and somebody us is the what are you going sales and positioning themselves? there's nothing you're saying can be verified because you're not allowing

journalists and you're saying it's not safe. i was in damascus during the war, which is well supported against outside with the european union in the united states. they didn't have a problem with journalists going in, well, uh, there was a, your old boss. net and you know, treating isis dash on the golan heights. we saw pictures of the. why is it you're not responding about the plan for guys? because you said it was the controller, a television station, you're on this guitar, a television station saying you want to people have guys that to go to sign i is that still you of you or no? no. what i meant was that they should clear the way you know it was it was. ringback civilians and guys that should be under way this would have been the best . well that's the. ready way so the some us, you know, would face is really military face to face model a model and not the. busy go behind them, you know, what's happened with this of us is that they like cowards. they are hiding behind

the civil populations that they were targeting our civil populations. no more because we took out all their uh, this categories and now we some of the ration. but i can tell you that i'll, i'll give you some numbers and you're not totally verifiable because they all come from from us. and they talk about 40000 that i can tell you out of these 40000 that more than 20000 are a terrorist armed terrorist and the racial one to one is the lowest in the allowing jonathan. so we kind of verified that it's in your interest to tell me that. so 2000000 palestinian to me, you know, about indians have to leave guys and go into the desert to live in tents, which is what you've said on the board. and then what i'll and then you'll destroy garza even more kill everyone left. and then how many of that? so then the 2000000 can then come back to god. so is that your plan on the plan? i'm letting you know who yeah. but this well yeah,

but obviously this landing place and. ready this is wide, so unfortunately some of the casualties among the civilians. but the, the plan for guys is very simple. each to view radicalized guys on the device, does it as it used to be. busy to the dramatically agreements when this happens. and of course, we would very much like to see a prosperous guys up as we planned for you on a 2005, august 2005 is realistic guys altogether to the last page, given you to hopefully to a new era. but from us to over, they actually had to put it up against the 040. they were cheap housing authority officials. they took over as you all righty. now. you can't lie other day than you in the west bank where we're running out of time. i've just got to ask you, you've long wanted the saudi arabia to join the abraham accords at why do you think

is there it has no chance whatsoever of that dream that you and then it and yahoo administration and these people, one of saudi arabia joining if anything is there is more isolated than ever. you have an economy intact as jews a leaving whole mess and you're preparing for the onslaught. i think nobody's resistance and the may need government saying, oh the waiting game is positive it, those jews will never be going back to the north. will they anytime soon? i as well, i'm sorry to take an issue, but i think of what you've said. you sorry for the prison off the ryan and that is belong to struggling not true. they have their teachers maybe to kind of bolster their. busy own the people and maybe more out because they are in the. busy very low point and i would say one, but there was only one solution or beast and prosperity in the middle east is that

it is then sunni countries, israel, united states, and nato heavy and alliance. as we are heading now against the forces of people which are the running, they have told us, piece by law a how boss and the high been forced east north korea and russia, some guys, china. so there are 2 camps here, and there is no doubt which camp is winning and which camp will continue to read and then one more thing, the gulf countries and so on. are you ready? yeah. they use ready see knowledge because they have problems? no, just the security issues from may be wrong. that's right, something wrong, but also it's uh the future for um, uh for security and what are available is this is where is what is number one in the world. okay. but it's number one and stealing walter according to the why the cartridge, the countries are friends with anyone. but every one i, i should say, and certainly uh, you know, they have good relations with china and russia and the russian china,

i understand what the, what data is doing, of course, in west, in your a. but i began this by talking about the 2nd world war you. what do you think of the line search vegas then this amman and british journal saying that a 186000 may have been slaughtered by u. k. u. s. u weaponry in the hands of the israelis equivalent, as i said, proportionately to 5 and a half 1000000 people, men, women, and children, mostly women and children killed in britain, though 27000000 in the usa. what do you think of that? british british medical journal, the lines that as well, again, i think you, there is, this is born always downright blind. and you mentioned this is like is, was positioning in the world is not the best because of the labels. and with the lies it gets us which, you know, we are not very yeah, capable of dyslexia because they're busy going great. i would love that. all the study was peer review. why would they make what a blood label? you're not comparing the lunch to, to the nazis. i they are, i would say that the,

i have told us of the wrong we there proxies like the police blah and there, you know, one in there, she, i, e, l, i swear, there is the she, i, the nation's in the rock or in syria or the image medical journal, they, well they, they, are they downright terrorist and you know, unfortunately no, well, or the ever i say why you say, but we're out of time about them. thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those very by u. k. u s. u, i'm jealous, i will be back with the brand new website on south to angel. then keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive and you'll country and has one channel. so we can leave it on tv and rumble. they'll come to us, new and old episodes are going on the grad, she says the the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00]

the