and besides wherever this land school number one used to be over the years a chapel was built here, the schools main building is now being transformed into a museum and an anti terrorism center. while the infamous gymnasium has been covered by a dome, to protect it from the elements and preserve almost in the same exact condition as it was right after the siege ended on the inside. this is where most of the hostages were held at gunpoint without food or water for ramped, for nearly 3 days. burns and scarred by explosions and fire is open to the public and all these years people from across russia. i have been coming here to pay their respects in a symbolic gesture. some we've water and toys, and some right messages of grief and support on its walls next to the faces of the many victims who never got to get older. head of the bloody anniversary, vladimir putin went on an unannounced trip. the best mon. you visited the so called

city of angels and memorial side, where most of the terror attacks victims are buried the school itself and might lose some of the victims of relatives. yes, this tragedy remains and then he loomed in the historic memory of the entire country. we know quite well that abroad, this terrible crime wasn't only justified, but the terrorists were supported, morally, politically, financially, and militarily, these people have no moral grounds, only their interests. and they continue their attempts to destabilize russia. this one remains a living reminder of the horrific effects of their may change names and faces. but it's in human nature always remains the same. the work is one of our t reporting from this one was already to assuming on his odds. his editor in chief, but 20 years ago she was a correspondent, responded revolting on the best plan, beloved boss life from the scene. here's some of the coverage.

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the u. s. other border is a hot topic of the 2024 presidential election cycle as more than 12000000 undocumented immigrants have poured into the us over the last few years. and states are at a breaking point once a problem left to border states to deal with during the by year. states like texas and florida have resorted to unconventional means to send their message to the feds that they are fed up. what's the truth behind this? massive and very complicated issue. this is direct impact the, the men's want him for rick sanchez, illegal immigration has long been a hot button issue for states like california and texas, arizona, even florida. but the following, the sunset of title 42, which effectively shut down american southern border due to the corona virus, the house committee on homeland security released what they called a startling report outlining cvp encounters for fiscal year 2023. it revealed this

of 40 percent increase from 2021 and a shocking 100 percent increase as compared to 2019 before president biden. wasn't office put in that number. roughly 2 and a half 1000000 encounters just for fiscal year 2023. that's not to mention the countless other migrants who evaded customs and border protection agents entirely. so what is happening right now on the southern border? i got to tell you it's vastly different than what has happened in the past. i actually grew up on the border, born and raised in el paso, texas, across the border from the city of waters, mexico. in fact, it is the largest border metroplex in the us. as a journalist, i worked on that border, added mexico for over 10 years, covering border issues and drug wars. and i can tell you this. what is happening on that border today is not the same border as in the past. to help break all of this down, we brought in a pair of experts on introducing a bill crane. he has been a political analyst, the commentator for 20 years, as well as a former communication stuff or on capitol hill and former us diplomatic government

and media relations specialist. jim, got you guys, thanks for being here. let's start with this. in june of this year, a 12 year old girl was brutally raped and murdered by 2 legal venezuelan immigrants in houston. listen to what the girls mother has to say. what is your message as her mother said, the justices. please don't fill us, please don't let us down. the city of houston has done everything in their power to bring this to light. and now it's just the system to do their part as well. it's a community effort. it's. it's a partnership. we all have to follow through and we all need to give them their punishment that they deserve. because my baby didn't the service that they receive worse than what my daughter did. again, those 2 migrants cross the border and el paso separately at different times. and

then both wound up in houston where this terrible murder took place back in 2022 republicans in congress. they made a claim that venezuela was emptying its prisons to send violent criminals to the us . that claim, by the way, was based off a source in a bright part article. those congressmen sent a letter to d h. s. secretary alejandro my orcus on this issue, followed up by another letter earlier this year after the death of lincoln riley at the hands of an illegal venezuelan emigrant. here the facts that we know that encounters with venezuelan migrants have shut up over the past few years. some context in 2020 trump. last year in office. there were just over 4500 encounters with venezuelans at the southern border. in 2023. that shot up your, you're not looking at a mist type on the screen here. it shut up to $334000.00 encounters. and while it's hard to exactly prove what percentage of these, some people were incarcerated at one point, we do know, in fact, there has been a clear decline in violent crimes and venezuela from 35 to 26 violent deaths

410-0000 people in 2023 anecdotally, we see the case of lincoln riley as well as his 12 year old girl who was again raped and brutally murdered in houston. so guys, let's bring you into the conversation and bill, we'll start with you. what do we know? do we know, in fact, if countries like venezuela and others are taking violent criminals out of prison and sending them to the united states? we do know in the countries like venezuela and other countries like paraguay or go away in the lower half of latin america and south america kind of variety to make a nomic impact coming off into the pandemic, broken supply chains, difficulty in separate as well, receiving well and it generally flattening of their economy with insights, so with stags ligation and rising prices and flattened incomes. people have been fleeting those nations and they've been adding new mexico and towards the us border . we have a very porous border now unlike security there that has, as you mentioned, changed even in the last 30 years. and our canadian border,

i got stuck on the northern side of it myself due to a passport issue and almost didn't get to return to united states about 2 years ago . that's not the case. and what we have on the for a south side. so we are seeing agents of isis and other terrorist organizations out of the middle east. we are seeing people that are coming here with evidently know goodwill. and they're not coming here for opportunity. they're coming here because they're fleeting and whether they're refugees or they were political prisoners or they were in prison or for incarceration, the paperwork they bring with them if any, doesn't demonstrate that. and if they're coming, you know, legally they're typically not concerned with their paper. yeah, a get them, you know, we often hear about and this is absolutely true, right. the us, the stabilizers countries, certainly we see that in central america and we see that in south america. but recently we're seeing this influx of my friends from more stable, i guess you can say in developing nations and, but really from all over the world. i mean, we're talking about encounters with migrants really, from, again, from india, from china, from russia,

from across the continent of africa. we're seeing people coming from the middle east. it's not just on the southern border people coming up from central and, and, and southern america. and that's not where they're coming from in a lot of these cases. in fact, here's a graphic for you encounters with migrant from india at the border skyrocketed by over 600 percent from 2021 to 2020, to migration from china. search tremendously during that same period with an astounding increase of 384 percent. so what is driving this particular trend jim to? well, i think the short answer is because i can, i mean, you know, somebody can say they're not sending their best. i think there's reason to believe that that a lot of them are criminals for people who are, you cannot make migraines, who are not going to do much for a country. but frankly, i don't think we need to be in for an educated over class either. that's going to be basically crowding out the job market for american graduates. but i think the real problem here is numbers. i mean, in the band a that the trump admitted, excuse me, the, by the administration put on

a few weeks ago to start limiting their catch and release program a 2500 a day. that's still $90000.00 people a month over a 1000000 a year. that would be especially prost, is into the united states, and in most cases we'll never see them again and not, not even a county where we don't even know who these people are necessarily. and as bill says, whether they're economic by grids, whether they're criminals, or maybe they're just, you know, neither of those just. so this is a and we have to also add that the so much of our southern border is effectively controlled on the, on the mexican side, not by domestic government, but by various criminal cartels who are crossing that border with impunity. some of these are being very heavily armed members of these criminal organizations. so we've got, we've got a real wallace this problem down there visited ministration is not doing anything about it. and frankly, with the previous ministration. even though they tried to do some things, as we know, mr. trump was ordered almost every term. and that's why we see state governments,

especially that of texas, trying to step up to the plate and do something about it and actually happened to fight the federal government and the courts that extra work. this is the department just tried to, to try to stem this, this slow boy and, and build like, but nothing happens in mexico without cartels controlling it. certainly, we know that this flow of people who's coming up through mexico, they're all being kind of processing move through the country by cartels or making billions and billions of dollars off of this. but there's other entities, entities in the united states that are making a lot of money off of this, right? because there's a big business now in non governmental organizations egos who are helping the process of an integrate and legal immigrants appearing at the border and by border patrol, which is now over capacity by the way they cannot handle. the numbers of people arriving is known to release illegal immigrants to the n g owes for processing shelter, food cell phones, and then they're helping them to get to their final destination in april of this year. take a look at this. d h s awarded another $300000000.00 of tax payer money to energy

owes to carry out this work with another $340000000.00 set to become available later this year. that money is going to be spread out over about $55.00 recipients . some of whom, again, are in g o, some of whom are state and local municipalities. so bill, the question here has the legal immigration in this form become big business britain, cios, who again are going to work any lobbying efforts to get, try to get that border under control when you've got hundreds of millions of dollars going into those organizations to move people around the country, we also have detention centers. we also have a huge problem down there with sex trafficking. so you have all these elicit enterprises coming into the country and we don't have a social safety net. it plays funded federal your state to absorb all of that. so they're basically creating the shadow budgets where angie owes are funded or given resources temporarily, sometimes permanently in continuing resolutions and the budget to take on responsibilities that used to be handled by the department of homeland security

department, immigration and naturalization, or working with state medicare and medicaid operations and even sheltering the children there are, you know, that was about 6 months ago. they were placing a lot of these children that they were separating that they believed by being victims of sex trafficking and keeping them in office parks that happened to be open or abandoned so that they were inexpensive rent. these are not any more humane conditions. been turning around and sending them back to the country from once they originated. well, it to that point, let's say with the bill for a 2nd because what do you do with these people when you have so many people? i mentioned that i'm from el paso right. i go back to old house for quite a bit, walk through the airport, they el paso international airport and there are people lined up on sleeping bags or wrapped up in space blankets laying across the floor. and they had get their ot us a line to be just ship sent out all over the country. they're holding to a clear back with a cell phone and a little bit of information. they get on a plane and they go somewhere. but what do you do with all these people when you have millions of people, again who are in the country, they, they where they go to work, who is gonna feed them? where do they go?

i mean, how does any of the rabbit in over in florida. gov. it a gun, a rigs last name's escaped me air intake. some of these folks that have been on the streets or in their airports and flying them to places like martha's vineyard at palm springs, gets quite a different reaction there. but the reality is there is no easy answer. and even if we were to start massive deportation, there's no federal budget or agency what the handle that you're going to use a cruise ship, how are you going to massively to port people the airlines are going to start giving us planes. so if nothing else going back to the last 2 pieces of major immigration legislation united states in 1982 in the 1986 emigration acts, which came under president ronald reagan and then how speaker, tip o'neill, we have put a pause temporarily. pause immigration, set numbers in place for each country for illegal immigration. it's made secure, pre operate, which it can. the real brand is the problem. and texas, it's about

a 1000 miles over 3000 mile borders, most of it through private land. so it's probably can be made more secure than it is, and then began to process with the legal path and integration for those who've been here banked active, working the economy. but we do have an i zooming increase in mentally ill medically fragile. and people that are not able to, in any way, help or support themselves once they arrive here in the united states, has its own domestic issues on that front that need to be prioritized and take care . first, jim, i'll give you the last word on this. what do we do? you've got millions of people who are here, the rate of which they're coming across is unprecedented. what do you do with the ones who are here? there is talk about trump saying if he gets in the office again, he's going to send people back. is that, is that feasible? is it even possible? i don't know if it's feasible, but i looked at the bath tub is over flowing. you can be able to water up it 1st. you've got to stop the faucet, you have to stop more of them coming in. and nobody can tell me that if we took those tens of billions of dollars that we give you credit and we give to,

to israel, we give to taiwan and concentrated on defending our own country, instead of mucking around and other people's business that we could not close that for i don't think it should be a question. gosh, do we have the resources to process all these people? what about the people with these problems? there's problems, the solution is closed. that border do not let them in. and then we don't have to worry about process. so you know, then we can address the question of deporting the people who are already here. now some people would say, oh, but we're obligated under treat, you know, there's conventions on refugees that we have to accept of. how is it that our presence can, with the stroke of a pen, take us out of arms control agreements, but they cannot withdraw us from some of these treaties that are based in principle, obligate us to take these people in a process. so it's a question of national will national priorities, are we going to do right thing to defend our country's borders that need to build whatever structures you need, put his money amendment down there as you need to close that board, change address and they'll crane. thank you both for your time on the subject,

a very important subject, and in fact, we're going to continue to cover it right after the other side of this break. we'll have minute a chance and we'll talk about what the bite the administration is doing right now. as it claims it's doing something about this problem, are they really right back the the from the very start of the binding presidency, we were told the occupant of the oval office was obsessed with his legacy. 3 and a half years later, that legacy can be summed up with a few choice words. division failure, incompetence in shape. history will remember. so by the end we'll come back to direct impact today we're talking immigration and continuing the conversation. now that's bring in international correspondent manila chan. manila, thanks for being here. so the household land report we just talked about, i'm sure you heard the conversation. we just had dropped some huge numbers at us,

which numbers that out to you as well. then these are some big numbers, i mean, just sense joe biden took office. there had been about 7 and a half 1000000 encounters nationwide. when you add the estimated 1.7, no, god always were pushing well over 10000000. so since this report was just for fiscal year 2023, which ended last fall, cvp has reported a search at the border since then, with some reports, estimating the total number of migrants at roughly 11 or even 12000000 at this point. some other big numbers in this report, a 169 individuals who are on the us terra watch list were caught at the us mexico border, close to 36000 others who were, who had no criminal convictions or had perhaps outstanding warrants either in their own nation of origin or, or even here in the us, cuz remember,

some of these people have come in and out of the us previously for years and had committed crimes in their time here another startling number. ben was the amount of fentanyl that was confiscated along the southern border over $27000.00 pounds. that's almost 13000 tons. and for visual purposes, then that is the average curve weight of a fleet. 6 ford f, 150 truck 6 of them. that's enough. fentanyl to kill 6000000000 people, leading to uh for some to argue that, you know, the security at the southern border is actually a national health crisis. yeah. and the reality of any time you're talking about numbers when it comes to, to drug seizures. mean, the amount of drugs that flow across that are not seized in a lot of cases, the ones that they're seizing are the ones that are allowed to get right. we can talk about that in the other show because that's a whole other thing. but i want to talk about, all right, just kind of what's happening here in the way this, this works. so you know what, one of the things that makes these illegal border crossings vastly different that

any time in the, in the past, right? when someone was called crossing the border right illegally, they were detained. in some cases they were actually sent back. again, this is for decades today when someone crosses the border, you know what they do. they go and look for a border patrol agents and they give themselves up because when they know that when they are, they're taken to a facility, they're fed, they're given a plane or a bus ticket to anywhere in the country they want to go. they're given a free cellphone, they're given an a debit card, and then they're given a piece of paper that says show up for a hearing and like 3 months and they don't do it. i get, i mentioned this very like go to the old castle airport and looks it looks like a processing for somebody there. how do you get this, this situation under control and how does it get so out of control? so fast, do you think of as well? i certainly don't have the answer about how to get this under control, but i can tell you how part of it. i can explain how part of it has transpired as to why it's gotten out of control. social media been believe it or not,

social media giants like to talk and instagram are in effect, having a direct impact on this new wave of, of migration. there are social media accounts dedicated to teaching people how to get from south and central america up to the us southern border teaching them what to do at the board or what to say when they arrive, giving maps and step by step instruction. there are other accounts showing up the benefits of presenting themselves to cbp when they get their showing off their new cellphones, their new devices and even the debit cards that are loaded with money from the us government. now this is a, a new phenomenon. obviously, despite social media, having been a thing for well over a decade, i mean, we saw this with the error of spring, right? so social media is playing a large role in driving up these numbers, exacerbating this of course, especially in the way of the venezuelan migrants, is the, the continuum diplomatic mess between our 2 countries. the continued stations there,

you have economic and political stripe that are driving that as well. and nationals up north. yeah. but, but to your point about the social media part of it. but you're absolutely right. but what the reality is, the social media influence there is if you want to call them back who are posting these videos, they are lighting. it's not like they're treating people like sites. hey, if you come to the us, you get a free phone. there's no phone, no, there is a phone. they say you'll get a debit card full of money now there is. yeah, they're actually so they're actually getting everything that they, they tell them they're going to get locked, dividing the ministration. let's face it. they created a lot of this semester. it's not the entire thing, right? let's just call it what it really is here. this is not that when trump was in office, he was dealing with the same problem. he was not dealing with the same problem with the trump administration. the numbers are extremely low compared to the bite in ministration. and actually before trump obama deported more illegal immigrants than any other president before him. so you have the most deported under obama. he actually deported more than trump, believe it or not. and then trump actually close the spigot where they couldn't

come in near as easily as they had been able to before with bite. and they opened it up. now the, by the ministrations, pretending all we're going to create is this new thing to, to crack down on the border. we realize it's a crisis. it's a crisis of your own making. do you think anyone believes in 1st of all? and 2nd of all, the people who are coming here, they're not going to actually get stop turned around and send back. are they a metal? yes. and no answer events. so, you know, here in washington it's a very, there's a very washington saying, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. and in biden's case, he is getting this from both parties regarding the southern border. so let's be clear about that part republicans are saying that you know, the murder of a miss riley and the 12 year old, nun grey would have been averted, had those men not been here in the 1st place here in the us and. and then of course, the resources being used a, those migrants and housing them, closing them, beating them are actually incentivizing more illegal immigration. meanwhile,

his own party, the democrats, are actually criticizing his latest response to the 3rd beginning in june. uh, as bill mentioned earlier, biden issued a temporary suspension of entry for what they say. the wording is specifically certain non citizens. they don't actually describe what certain non citizens look like or where they're from. but then you couple that with an interim rule by the doj and dressed, which places limitations on asylum eligibility and were promptly deport those who they say do not qualify. and then they would be subjected to a 5 year ban of re entry and possible possible criminal prosecution. so those in his party say this is a trump in style and trump in mode of handling this 3rd in lieu of trump. trump's title $42.00 and

a half mate during the cobit pandemic. and then the sunset of that, after the pandemic came to an end, which was just a little over a year ago. and that's when the stores began. and why bite into kind of these emergency measures, and that a, not a trick question. so if you don't know, it's okay, but are they defining what it means to say, you'll be promptly return to your own country because promptly could mean within 2 weeks? are they gonna let them walk out? because right now you, you, you leave and you come back and then that you have a hearing for you, but no one's making. you attend the series, you have no idea where these people are going. and then i scoured the d h. s. the cvp website, all the government websites, the uh, the homeland committees website. nobody can define what promptly deported actually means. so i guess its like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i guess it is a case by case scenario. nobody here and at least in washington, dc has yet put it in writing what promptly deport actually means. so i truly don't

have an answer for you because i can't find one. and i'm not sure that anybody in washington actually has that answer. then they don't have an answer because the, it's not part of the plan, right? they're not actually creating a system by which people are turned away. there's no turning away to say we're going to promptly deport you again it, it means absolutely nothing, but i wanna ask you one more thing is we're, we're short of the time, which is there's also a humanitarian issue here there. so people who would even watch the show right and say, oh, this guy's against immigrants. no, i'm not. but i'm against against the abuse of people. and one of the things that happens when cartels are bringing people up from the southern border, there's an incredible abuse of people happening there. when people arrive in this country with no job, no ability to work. yes, they have a pre loaded debit card. but how, how quickly is that money gone when you have children who come into this country and no one knows where they are, thousands of them that have come into this country. and there's no record of where any of those kids are. if it makes the situation absolutely rife for corruption and

abuse, and i think that's the other part of this. the story that is completely ignored. again growing up on the border, you see it all the time. people who come here for a better life, who are enduring terrible conditions and who truly are treated like 2nd class citizens when you have millions of those people in this country, what do you do about that part of it? we have one minute as well. there. obviously as a major human toll attached to this whole system, this whole infrastructure of illegal immigration or undocumented migrants coming through the southern border. and as you mentioned, that the countless number of children that are used as props and used for human trafficking by smugglers, the co pays and the drug cartels. and as the panel, as mentioned earlier, this is who actually controls the mode up up north is the car towels. and until mexico in the united states can both, especially with the new incoming president and mexico until they can work out

a plan together. i don't see, i don't foresee any stopping us, no matter who is in the white house coming next january, whether it is trump or bite, and again then absolutely another chance always get to talk to you. thank you. and that is our show and bins one. we'll see you next time as we continue to cover stories that have a direct impact the in this thing of the continent of boxes. oh, said we into rough with the rest of the world. we're going to relate with the wind in terms of donations on, in terms of trade, africa must define what she wants. political assets might define ourselves. cultures oswick on want define ourselves critically. the cause of the guys no

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