the members of the american jewish population, also the democrats, with the current administration has well hold on their support for israel. so what is the current policy of the biding harris and ministration mean for the support of the jewish people on the 2020 for us presidential election on sky. now here's and this is perspective the president biden. i a working to end this war such that israel is secure, the hostages are released the suffering and gaza and, and the palestinian people can realize they are right. that was democrat presidential nominees, comma harris, speaking some very tough words, trying to play both sides of israel him off for however,

the binding harris policy regarding the middle east has been seen as confusing as the administration has done everything. it can not choose a side. now commer harris even skipped is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu speech before congress. oh, this led to a massive undecided movement during the primaries and many delegates even responding, present instead of 4 harris during the roll call. however, you know actions may speak louder than words. in harris's case, when the dnc allowed the is really parents of an american hostage of whom us taken october 7th to give a speech. posting protesters begin burning flags and turning violent outside women mazda and for harris, have actually rescinded their endorsement of comma harris due to the chicago convention. not been giving a chance for palestinian speaker. and on the final night, a jewish rabbi even close out the democratic national convention by delivering the

benediction prayer and endorsing commer harris. life or combine were freedom who inspired by vice president pablo harrison vision for america. now donald trump, on the other hand, has made his position on israel very clear. i've done more for israel by far, than any of the presidents, not even close. and with the historic abraham accord says, you know, we created peace in the middle east. by contrast, kamala, our staff, is your linda back and it's great our of need. she doesn't like jewish people. she doesn't like israel. that's the way it is. and that's the way it's always going to be. she's not gonna change. there are large jewish toners on both sides of the aisle. and in 2020 this contributed to a combined total of $80000000.00 and political contributions. however, 2016,

according to the jury, supposed us choose contribute more than 50 percent of all the donations to the democratic party. but do dollars equal control within a political party and 2024. and how is the current conflict in the middle east affecting the presidential campaigns? well, i want to discuss this with our panel, alan grayson, farmer, florida, congressman andrew langer host andrew on your show and president of the liberty institute and audrey j. pruitt chairman of new jersey impact. thank you so much for joining me on this very sensitive topic. but i think one very important, as i said, there needs to be some real wines established as to what is going on here. and obviously i'm gonna start with you alan grayson, congressman, you know, does the majority of the jewish faith support the democratic party? and does this include, you think all the various sectors of judaism, the jury does the calling is because the said 7030 as you described at the beginning of the show that has been consistent for many, many years. no matter what happens in israel and in the middle east,

and i think it's likely to remain true jews or form. and even conservatives do very heavily with the democratic party and use or orthodox and ultra orthodox types of skill and you have a direction. the reason for that is very simply that the judaism is a moral religion and the credit spoke to criminal law. the over world corresponds to much of the democratic platform. so i have to do andrew because what issues do you think are the democrats supports? the most to warrant this over whelming support probably the majority of any democratic or of any demographic. i think congressman verizon is right in so far as the translation of to come and alarm into support for the democratic party, right? you have to sort of understand where this comes from in terms of the sort of the, the, the, it's interesting right? because dakota alarm is a moral principle. but it's a moral principle in a religious environment which has grown increasingly away from actual religious ya

city. over the last i'm gonna say not even half century, but, but 75 years or so. you know, maybe even starting and then let her her a part of the 19th century with the creation of the society for ethical culture with jews who wanted to engage in the ethical tenants of judaism without dealing with the religious aspects of it. as someone who came out of an ethical humanist tradition in high school. and so you have sort of those non religious, ethical adherence, who sort of look at what the damage the traditional progressive wing of the democratic party of done. and they go there. but then when you look a little bit further, things have changed and some of it has to do with the rise of the pro palestinian moving within the democratic constituents of the constituencies. and some of it has to do with a, you know, bureau and anti semitism. in some core, a corners of, of the democratic party assembly just has to do with general policy real quick. i'm sorry. and seems like i'm filibustering. i've had conversations with reform,

jews who are not particularly religious, but open to a traditional democratic constituents over the last 30 years, plus for now really raising questions had a conversation with the high school class, but it was like, i can't, i can i see what comma harrison tim walter doing and i just, i don't want to go there. so i try, i want to get to say, but real quick, i do want to define for our audience. so create, i think probably going to throw this to you. carson, is there a difference between what those are the jewish faith believe and zionist, and is it fair to kind of group all of them under the same broad umbrella? well clearly uh what the jewish tax is a religion, and whatsoever zionism is, is the $90.00 you buy to protect your play, some quantity urge. so the van diagram sort of speaks for itself if you will. i think that most jews are as items. i think that almost all science argues, but it's not the same as to say that one is the same as the other. for instance, the ultra orthodox,

the very most religious choose of all are clearly not sinus. they're the ones who are saying that they need to stay off the temple mount and not create an east jerusalem. and in the is really part of jerusalem and let the let people be separate from each other. so it's a very, very complicated situation. doesn't resolve itself into simple set of words or one sense, but it is true that almost all jews believe that the land of israel should. ready is jewish audrey from a political standpoint, does the issue of conflict that's going on right now in israel? is that a subject you think is being over politicized? or should we politicize more by each political party and our democrats trying to ignore it or try to push it aside while republicans are trying to capitalize that as well. i think it's an issue that must be talked about by both political entities . i think the current stage of israel and relationship with israel is probably the

1st. it was the 2nd, if not the 1st issue and us for a policy that we have to deal with. i think with the guy from the democratic party . this is interesting. if i remember my citizens correctly, the, by the administration actually has given more and done more for israel over all in the trump administration. now the rhetoric has not matched it. what harris has said has that matches? because i think she's actually part of the to the left and by this issue. but it appears to test the coal analysis of the data. i believe by the mirrors have pushed more both from us directly and through pressure, our partners. israel then did truck and, but that is not something that the democrats obviously with their left base wants to spell out. so they have to ride this pony very, very carefully. and if the republicans are smart,

they would really laser in on harris's left base rhetoric. they, they would focus in on that left base, right. are very, very intense that i think they're smart and they could begin to peel away some of the older jewish about what i'm seeing um, that jewish obviously i, i know a lot of years i do a lot of that data, but i am say that you're seeing some of the traditional clinton style jewish bo, it's not just for chop peel away from buying harris and the republicans could be very effective if they know how to do that. i don't know of donald trump, i'm a, i'm a trunk supporter. i have been but i just don't know if he has that has to be able to make that kind of argument or to see what's interesting that you bring up the actions in the words. because and or do you agree with that? when you look at it added, the democrats might have actually done more for israel, per se, but they don't want to admit it. they don't want it to be out there publicly. and

at some point, will they be held accountable for those words that they're really not true is real? are there more is or at the pro israel that even the republicans are? well, it always depends on how you measure done more, right? i mean, there is the dollar version of it, which i would wonder how much of that aid has been given since the october attacks and how much it was before. right? because obviously, if you're helping the funding effort in which is real is, is having to fight a war, you know, in defense of its own sovereignty. that sort of lends itself to this and in, in an area in which this didn't have this didn't happen under the trump administration because the trump administration was engaging in sort of the substantive foreign policy in a way that this administration skits a frantic approach has, has essentially given comfort and aid to folks with both attack israel and attack other sort of american interest abroad. right. so good. so is, is it about funding an aide monetarily or is it about, you know, the abraham records and moving the u. s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. again,

that all depends on on how you look at it. but the question really is, and i think to the point that was made, this is an election that is going to come down to moving small groups of voters from column a to column b. and if you can peel off x percentage of voters from that 30 bravo from that 70 percent of the jewish democratic voters, then we're talking about things that it changes the calculus going into september, october, november. and you're right. does about small little groups this time when you're talking about percentage points. i know you feel like one little difference and that's what honestly what it'd be good if not just small groups is small groups the right state. if you pull them off and you're in california, you know, you got to po, box, lady of michigan, wisconsin individual states, the but it's definitely, yeah. if you, if they move them in new york in california, doesn't matter. you already know where you're go with that one. yeah. well, to that point, one of the reasons that they were looking at looking at govern josh,

appear this is alan. do you feel like calmer harris pick of governor tim was over josh to appear or had anything to do with the fact the governorship here is jewish and was that a mistake and not going for? she's here not only because he's from a very important state, but it would also probably secure that jewish based behind him. uh no, i think that so it gives us the overblown just like the criticism update ministration, especially overblown. uh, tony, blinking is actually one who's calling the shots in my opinion, based upon my prior observation, he has had a very consistent policy, not a scripts, a friendly policy at all. one could always say that if you picked a jewish person, it might have some impact on the jewish vote, but i don't think that that could possibly be was for most. and pamela harris has my, she had 50 governess to choose from, not just to. and i think that she picked a good one. i know waltz. i think he's a fantastic choice. he's a decent human being and that makes some a dramatic contrast to donald trump. so i think that the,

the ask your question is that no real effect? and frankly, the notion that not picking a jewish governor or having what is described here as a scripts in front of the policy to it is. ready is going to change the jewish though it is not true of the how serious of railing against administration their re . busy guess and mystery for, for. ready to pro israel. so how do you get, how do you consistently argue that the housing is the right that the, the districts to pro israel and yet they should lose the jewish folk. ringback make any sense? oh, it's interesting that because of the now and you would agree with all the decisions that have been made in this conflict and how america's policy has been not exactly i would agree with was a sack. i'm grateful for most of it. i think that i was the fact that president biden went over to israel shortly after the attack took place. was an enormous boost for the country and forts morel. uh, the, the, i also think that the uh,

blinking and biting, and the stomachs at harris have understood that the war doesn't end until his real safe. and there's no longer a threat of invasion. no more hostages and no more of the threat of missile attacks, which is on everybody's mind 0. they've been realistic about that. i think to, to, to some degree they've tried to micro manage the war. and i don't understand why the palestinians complaint about that because every time i've tried to micro manage the work, they've done it and work to make things quieter to make things quieter and edit sooner. so i'm not sure what the basis for that criticism is, but i would say that most people in israel, most people who are jews in america, i would say close to 80 or 90 percent of them say that by and has been extraordinarily fair and reasonable with israel and disagrees with that israel. all we want is the things because we might be going too far. well, i know andrew probably has response that so our and andrew are, are trying to stay right there. and we'll get back to you in this conversation right after the break. because also after the break,

we're going to look at how the protest over the warren gaza could have an effect on who gets elected president of the united states in november, the from the very start of the binding presidency. we were told the occupant of the oval office was obsessed with his legacy, 3 and a half years later, that legacy can be summed up with a few choice words division, failure to incompetence in shame. history will remember joe, by the release of russian state, the mattress as tight as i'm calling the most sense. community ingles, all sense set up the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

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the welcome back to perspective i'm your host got e mail, he's protest including rallies, demonstrations campaigns and visuals relating to the israel home off for have occurred nationwide across the united states. since the conflicts start on october 7th of 2023. the protests that occurred 1st at columbia university in new york city are part of a broader phenomenon of the israel, whom off for protest, all around the world. the protest dot only take on an anti israel fame, but at times have also taken on an anti american thing with flag burnings, and anti us government signs and chance. you know, the protests became a major headline. just recently. the democratic national convention were thousands gathered daily to voice their to send, break security boundaries and even find ways into the convention hall. well,

what effect are these protest having on the election? well, i want to continue our discussion with our panel. alan grayson, former florida congressman andrew langer. how's the thing i do like your show and present of the liberty institute? not your j pruitt chairman of new jersey pac andrew. i promised you before we left, you obviously had something to say. we were talking about how the jewish committee viewed the american support. and i want you to obviously address that, but also is the jewish community united and supported netanyahu. and his current military strategy a wholesome, again, sort of getting down to it. no, they're not all united behind that. yeah. when this gets indo, all kinds of sort of the internal political issues with the us shouldn't be doing. and this gets into why i called it skips of frantic is the us should not as netanyahu is the prime minister of israel should not be working to undermine his effort at the same time by the way. so we are giving aid, right? we're giving lots and lots of money to is real. but at the same time, you have major democratic leaders not showing up to support in that young when he

comes to address a joint session of congress. also at the same time that we're giving money to israel's enemies who can then turn around and use that money to attack israel, right? that's what i mean when i say skits, of frantic policy here, right? the biting administration, i would say contributed to the conditions that allowed this attack last october by him awesome hostage taking the mass occurring of jewish citizens to occur on the, at the same time that they've been turning around and doing a so. so that's, that's what i mean when i said it's it's, it's been in a mixed bag. now the reality is, of course, you know, you're going to see by and large support for is real, remain are, i'm support from the democratic party amongst the americans use remain very, very high. but again, it, it is all on the margins here when it comes down to and i'm talking to folks, i don't know about congressman grace. i mean, he's got possibly a different constituency than the one that i'm the ones that i'm talking to. but there are questions that have been raised in the minds of a lot of traditional democratic constituents who happen to be jewish about whether

or not they can continue to support the democratic party. and let me enter this right. of course, you're going to get pro palestinians, or going to be criticizing any american administration because any american administration that gives any support to the say, the state of israel is going to get criticized by the more radical forms of the palestinians. it's how much support the democratic party gives to those constituencies that is of the main concern. oh arthur, i've gotta ask you, is you look at some of these protests that are going on. how are the positive purchase, do you think on campuses here in the united states affecting support for the democrats? is it helping to gain them, voters? and i think it's not helping them gain voters because they're already preaching to the choir. they're preaching and doing the protests to their own constituency. in fact, i think in some key areas, i don't know if it's in the swing states per se, but in some of the even more level states, new york, when you saw

a truck calling for example in new york. so i'm gaining that subtraction in california and in illinois i say those protests are actually hurting. and the reason why they're hurting is because some independents are actually speaking back to black lives matter. they don't want a repeat of the burning down of the country that they saw a few summers ago. so i think that these protested unintentionally passed trigger post traumatic stress disorder or post traumatic process. this order was interesting on that one. you know, i've gotta look at never kind of look at alan because could the gauze and war actually be our do think this final words that could busch, jewish orders away from the democrat party and into the ranks republican party. are you in any way fearful of that hour? and, you know, this is this fantasy that's been going on now for a quarter of

a century among the rich republicans that they can tear away. the jewish folks from the democrats doesn't make any sense to say that because they're a pal city in protest as protests against the democratic president and the democratic vice president. but they're not tough enough on israel. therefore, jews are going to bad the democratic party. what did you think it would be exactly the opposite? that they would rally around the flag for actually seeing here some of that goes back beyond the j. c. p. a way that you may recall way back into the early 2, thousands. it's the jewish strategy. among republicans to try to tear wages from a democratic party, just as we saw the southern strategy before that and ever since. that's her way whites, others from the democratic party. it's the same thing and whatever, but, but as long as they don't say whether they reach, they will try to push, hold on. so it kind of work, it's never going to work. jews simply can make up their own minds. okay,

so i'm going to give you both a quick calling about arthur. you caught me 1st, i'll end with andrew's you know, this, there's no trying to tear away. we're not talking about republicans reaching an interior. what? there is no doubt the data shows that the democrat tardies, anti israel pro a mosse rhetoric is pushy. some i'm not even saying 10 percent. what is pushing a few people away from the democratic party? alan, i've been talking about a southern strategy of some democrats say at a see a going back to the seventy's. i'm talking about real time data. it's happening. right. and are you got 30 seconds? listen again. it's, it gets back to this, you know, as i've heard it from jews on both sides of the aisle, they ask themselves, the question is a good for the jews. and there's nothing wrong with asking that question more and more form or democrats or more, more democratic jews are saying, you know, something, i can't vote for this craziness anymore. okay, but a, i've got

a tag on to the end and help me out on this side of it. what is it going to take then? does republicans just like they've had to kind of give up the thought a vote for women in recruiting women and other minorities ever? what is it going to take for the republican party to ever be able to attract the jewish folk over to their side? i think i think we're seeing it right now. it's a skits of frantic policy which age and rewards the enemies of the jewish state at the sacrifice of the jewish state. and then also there are the, all, the other is sort of ancillary issues that are causing voters to reconsider their support for the democratic party. and again, i'm hearing this from, from the progressive choosing central shoes, you know, right, and left. okay, so alan, i've got to advocate shortly. oh, audrey, yes. authors high. right? it. it takes time. the more more errors pushes the less weight. progressive anti israel pro terrorist position? time will push them away. it's tight. what about actually putting a jewish people into office? allen,

unfortunately it doesn't seem like of all the minorities that have not been present at the jewish population for being here a day has had very few actually worked for hours. we had lieberman. 8 and i think we just recently, um we had, we had what, what is it going to take for more jewish democrats to put their name on the ballot? could that also be how you're able to keep that support behind your party? well, 1st of all, i just want to say before i answer your question, that there is no anti jewish policy within democratic party period. it's just something that's been conjured up here in this panel. and for the heart of some purpose, the rhetoric is out of i've said with rhetoric type what, but i don't even know what that means. but it, let me ask you a question. there been fewer than a 100 president, some vice presidents in history with united states. the fact that the jews are only a tiny, tiny fraction of population is all the explanation you from that. from my state in florida. there was a jew senator, in the 1850s, uh,

jews are slightly over represented in the house of representatives substantially over represented in the us. so it's not that we are left out. i don't think anybody to make a case for that. yes, would be nice to have a jewish president just like it's been nice to have an african american president just like it's going to be really nice that will work. all of that is true. but i don't think that we've been left out. and i said, well let me just remind you, barry goldwater actually was the 1st person of jewish faith who ran for prizes on the republican side. so both sides though, we had a few at their to list. i want to thank you. alan grayson, aber audrey and andrew like your thank you so much for joining us forever and thank you very much for having me on board. thank you. okay, so to my point, we can talk about the lack of diversity and skin color and gender of those who have been elected to the highest office in the land. i find it interesting. the religious heritage of an individual is not nearly as appealing of a campaign motivator. almost all presidents and vice presidents had been members of

the christian protestant church, were the only 2 members of the catholic church ever even being elected even a c. it had been elected as presidents over those of the other fates. i guess this is what happens when you have a country that was founded to escape and government sponsored religion. yet, as we continue to find reasons here in the united states, the divide is politically, i would hope the consistent values found in almost all religions would always be used unitas rather than weaponized to divide. okay, that's just my perspective. i've got to know hughes, thanks for watching the the the

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