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square in division failure incompetence in shape history. well remembered joe by the pro palestine and pro home of protesters had a crippling hold currently on the democratic party. however, 7 out of 10 members of the american jewish population, also the democrats. but the current administration has well hold on their support for israel. so what does the current policy of the biden harris administration mean for the support of the jewish people on the 2020 for us presidential election sky. now here's and this is perspective the
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president by then i a working to end this war such that israel is secure, the hostages are released the suffering and gaza and, and the palestinian people can realize they are right now is democratic presidential nominee commer harris speaking some very tough words trying to play both sides of israel him off for however, the biting harris policy regarding the middle east has been seen as confusing as administration has done everything it can. it's not to the side. now commer harris even skipped is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, your speech before congress. all this lead to a massive undecided movement during the primaries and many delegates even responding, present instead of 4 harris. during the roll call. or however,
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you know, actions may speak louder than words. in harris's case, when the dnc allowed the is really parents of an american hostage of whom us taken october 7th to give a speech. posting, protesters begin burning flags, and turning violent outside women mazda and for harris. have actually rescinded their endorsement of comma harris due to the chicago convention. not been giving a chance for a palestinian speaker. and on the final night a jewish rabbi even close out the democratic national convention by delivering the benediction prayer and endorsing commer harris. life. or combine were freedom who inspired by vice president pablo harrison vision for america. now donald trump, on the other hand, has made his position on israel very clear. i've done more for israel by far than any of the presidents, not even close. and with the historic abraham accord says,
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you know, we created peace in the middle east by contrast. come all our staff, is your linda back and it's great our of need. she doesn't like jewish people. she doesn't like israel. that's the way it is. and that's the way it's always going to be. she's not gonna change. there are large jewish donors on both sides of the aisle. and in 2020 this contributed to a combined total of $80000000.00 in political contributions. however, 2016, according to the jury, supposed us choose contribute more than 50 percent of all the donations democratic party, but do dollars equal control within a political party and 2024. and how is the current conflict in the middle east affecting the presidential campaigns? well, i wanna discuss this with our panel, alan grayson, former florida, congressman andrew langer host andrew on your show and president of the liberty
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institute and audrey j pruitt, chairman of new jersey pack. thank you so much for joining me on this very sensitive topic. but i think one very important, as i said, there needs to be some real wines established as to what is going on here. and obviously i'm gonna start with you alan grayson, congressman, you know, just the majority of the jewish faith support the democratic party. and does this include, you think all the various sectors of judaism, the jury does. the total is consistent. 7030. as you described at the beginning of the show that has been consistent for many, many years, no matter what happens in israel and in the middle east. and i think it's likely to remain true. i choose or form and even conservatives to very heavily that the democratic party and use or orthodox ultra orthodox attempt to ski with the other direction. the reason for that is very simply that the judaism is a moral religion and the eclipse for. ready alone feel the world corresponds to
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much of the democratic platform. so i have to do andrew because what issues do you think are the democrats supports the most to warrant this over? whelming support? probably the majority of any democratic or of any demographic. so i, i think time are some great, some is right in so far as the translation of to an alarm into support for the democratic party. right? you have to sort of understand where this comes from in terms of the sort of the, the, the, it's interesting right? because dakota alarm is a moral principle. but it's a moral principle in a religious environment which has grown increasingly away from actual religious ya city. over the last i'm gonna say not even half century, but, but 75 years or so. you know, maybe even starting and then let her her a part of the 19th century with the creation of the society for ethical culture with jews who wanted to engage in the ethical tenants of judaism without dealing with the religious aspects of it. as someone who came out of an ethical humanist
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tradition in high school. and so you have sort of those non religious, ethical adherence, who sort of look at what the damage the traditional progressive wing of the democratic party of done. and they go there. but then when you look a little bit further, things have changed and some of it has to do with the rise of the pro palestinian moving within the democratic constituents of the constituencies. and some of it has to do with a, you know, virulent anti semitism in some court. the corners of, of the democratic party assembly just has to do with general policy real quick. i'm sorry i've, it seems like i'm filibustering. i've had conversations with reform, jews who are not particularly religious, but open to a traditional democratic constituents over the last 30 years, plus or now really raising questions had a conversation with the high school class, but it was like, i can't, i can i see what's campbell of harrison tim walter doing an i just, i don't want to go there. so i try, i want to get to say, but real quick, i do want to define for our audience for create i think probably going to throw
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this to you. congressman, is there a difference between what those are the jewish faith believe and zionist, and is it fair to kind of group all of them under the same broad umbrella? well, clearly uh what the jewish texas is religion and whatsoever zionism is, is an ideology that apply to a particular place on fire or so the van diagram sort of speaks for itself if you will. i think that most jews are as items. i think that are almost all signs are jews, but it's not the same as to say that one is the same as the other. for instance, the ultra orthodox, the very most religious choose of all are clearly not sinus. they're the ones who are saying that they need to stay off the temple mount and not create an east jerusalem. and. ringback in the is really part of jerusalem and let the let people be separate from each other. so it's a very, very complicated situation. doesn't resolve itself into simple set of words or one
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sense. but it is true that almost all jews believe that the land of israel should be, is jewish. audrey from a political standpoint, does the issue of conflict that's going on right now in israel. is that a subject you think is being over politicized? or should we politicize more by each political party and our democrats trying to ignore it or try to push it aside while republicans are trying to capitalize it? well, i think it's an issue that must be talked about by both political entities. i think the current stage of israel and the relationship with israel is probably the 1st, if we will use the 2nd, if not the 1st issue and us ford policy that we have to deal with. i think with the guy from the democratic party. this is interesting, if i remember my citizens correctly the, by the administration actually has given more and done more for israel over all in the trap administration. now the rhetoric has not matched it.
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what harris has said has that matches? because i think she's actually part of the to the left to advise the issue. but it appears to testicle analysis of the data i believe by the mirrors have pushed more both from us directly and through pressure our partners. it's a israel then did truck and, but that is not something that the democrats obviously with their left base wants to spell out. so they have to ride this pony very, very carefully. and if the republicans are smart, they would really laser in on harris's left base rhetoric they, they would focus in on that left base right. are very, very intense that i think they're smart and they could begin to peel away some of the older jewish about what i'm seeing um, that jewish obviously i, i know a lot of years i do a lot of that data, but i am see that you're seeing some of the traditional clinton style jewish bo,
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it's not just for chop peel away from buying harris and the republicans could be very effective if they know how to do that. i don't know of donald trump, i'm a, i'm a trump supporter. i have been but i just don't know if he has that has to be able to make that kind of argument or his team. what's interesting that you bring up the actions in the words because and or do you agree with that? when you look at it added, the democrats might have actually done more for israel, per se, but they don't want to admit it. they don't want it to be out there publicly. and at some point, will they be held accountable for those words that they're really not true is real? are there more is or at the pro israel that even the republicans are? well, it always depends on how you measure done more, right? i mean, there is the dollar version of it, which i would wonder how much of that aid has been given since the october attacks and how much was before. why? because obviously, if you're helping the funding effort in which is real as is having to fight a war,
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you know, in defense of its own sovereignty, that sort of lends itself to this and in an area in which this didn't have this didn't happen under the trump administration because the trump administration was engaging in sort of the substantive foreign policy in a way that this administration skits a frantic approach has, has essentially given comfort and aid to folks who would both attack israel and attack other sort of american interest abroad. right. so good, so it's, is it about funding an aide monetarily or is it about, you know, the abraham accords and moving the u. s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. again, that all depends on, on how you look at it. but the question really is, and i think to the point that was made, this is an election that is going to come down to moving small groups of voters from column a to column b. and if you can peel off x percentage of voters from that 30 bravo from that 70 percent of the jewish democratic voters, then we're talking about things that it changes the calculus going into september,
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october and november. and you're right. does about small little groups this time when you're talking about percentage points, allen, you can you feel like one little difference in what audrey, what it'd be good if not just small groups, is small groups the right state. if you pull them off and you're in california, you know, you got to po, box, lady of michigan, wisconsin individual states, the but it's definitely, yeah. if you, if they move them in new york in california, doesn't matter. you already know where you're go with that one. yeah. well, to that point, one of the reasons is they were looking at looking at govern josh, appear. this is alan. do you feel like calmer harris pick of governor tim was over josh to appear or had anything to do with the fact the governorship here is jewish and was that a mistake and not going for sheep here? not only because he's from a very important state, but it would also probably secure the jewish base behind him. uh no, i think that so it gives us the overblown just like the criticism update
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ministration, specially overblown. tony blinking is actually one who's calling the shots in my opinion, based upon my prior observation is had a very consistent policy, not a scripts of front of policy at all. one could always say that if you picked a jewish person, they might have some impact on the jewish vote, but i don't think that that could possibly be was for most and tumble harris's might. she had 50 governess to choose from, not just to and i think that she picked a good one. i know waltz. i think he's a fantastic choice. he's a decent human being and that makes him a dramatic contrast to donald trump. so i, i think that the, the answer your question is that no real effect. and frankly, the notion that not picking a jewish governor or having what is described here as this gets in front of the policy to it is. ready is going to change that jewish though it is not true of the pal students of railing against administration. their re. busy i guess it ministry for, for. ready to pro israel. so how do you get,
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how do you consistently argue that the housing is the right that the, the districts to pro israel and if they should lose the jewish folk doesn't make any sense. oh, it's interesting that because of the now and you would agree with all the decisions that have been made in this conflict and how america's policy has been not exactly, i would agree with most of it, and in fact i'm grateful for most of it. i think that of the fact that president, by the way, over to israel shortly after the exact place was an enormous boost for the country and forts morel. uh, the, the, i also think that the uh, blinking and biting. and then to some extent, harris have understood that the, the war doesn't end until is real safe. and there's no longer a threat of invasion, no more hostages, and no more of the threat of missile attacks, which is on everybody's mind 0. they've been realistic about that, i think to, to, to some degree they've tried to micro manage the war. and i don't understand why the palestinians complaint about that because every time i've tried to micro manage
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the work, they've done it in order to make things quieter. to make things quieter and edit sooner. so i'm not sure what the basis for that criticism is. but i would say that most people in israel, most people who are jews in america, i would say close to 80 or 90 percent of them say that by and has been extraordinarily fair and reasonable with israel and disagree with that israel. all we want is do you think because we might be going too far, but i know andrew probably has response that so alan and your address to stay right there and we'll get back to you in this conversation right after the break. because also after the break, we're going to look at how the protest over the warren gaza could have an effect on who gets elected president of the united states in november. the
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hi, i'm executive, and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do the have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do, don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way inside the welcome back to perspective, i'm your host got e mail, he's protest including rallies, demonstrations campaigns, and vigils relating to the israel,
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him off for have occurred nationwide across the united states. since a conflict start on october 7th of 2023. now the protests that occurred 1st at columbia university in new york city are part of a broader phenomenon of the israel home off for protest, all around the world. other protests that only take on an anti israel fame, but at times of also taking on an anti american thing with flag burnings, and anti us government signs and chance. you know, the protests became a major headline. just recently. the democratic national convention were thousands gathered daily to voice their to send, break security boundaries and even find ways into the convention hall. what effect are these protest having on the election? well, i want to continue our discussion with our panel. alan grayson farmer for the congressman andrew langer house today and do like your show and president of the liberty institute. not your j pruitt chairman of new jersey pack. and you are promised you before we left. you obviously had something to say. we were talking about how the jewish community viewed the american support,
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and i want you to obviously address that, but also is the jewish community united is supportive netanyahu and his current military strategy. wilson, again sort of getting down to it. no, they're not all united behind that. yeah. when this gets into all kinds of sort of the internal political issues with the us shouldn't be doing. and this gets into why i called it skips of frantic is the us should not as netanyahu is the prime minister of israel should not be working to undermine his effort at the same time by the way. so we are giving aid, right? we're giving lots and lots of money to is real. but at the same time, you have major democratic leaders not showing up to support in that young when he comes to address a joint session of congress. also at the same time that we're giving money to israel's enemies who can then turn around and use that money to attack israel, right? that's what i mean when i say skits, of frantic policy here, right? the biting administration, i would say contributed to the conditions that allowed this attack last october by him awesome hostage taking the mass occurring of jewish citizens to occur. but at
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the same time that the then turning round and doing a so. so that's, that's what i mean. when i said it's it's, it's been in a mixed bag. no, the reality is, of course, you know, you're going to see by and large support for is real, remain are, i'm support from the democratic party amongst the americans use remain very, very high. but again, it, it is all on the margins here when it comes down to and i'm talking to folks, i don't know about congressman grace. i mean, he's got possibly a different constituency than the one that i'm the ones that i'm talking to. but there are questions that have been raised in the minds of a lot of traditional democratic constituents who happen to be jewish about whether or not they can continue to support the democratic party. and let me enter this right. of course, you're going to get pro palestinians, or going to be criticizing any american administration because any american administration that gives any support to the say, the state of israel is going to get criticized by the more radical forms of the palestinians. it's how much support the democratic party gives to those
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constituencies that is of the main concern. oh arthur, i've gotta ask you, is you look at some of these protests that are going on. how are the positive purchased, i think on campuses here in the united states, affecting support for the democrats. is it helping to gain them, voters? i think it's not helping them gain voters because they're already preaching to the choir. they're preaching and doing the protests to their own constituency. in fact, i think in some key areas, i don't know if it's in the swing states per se, but in some of the even more level states, new york, when you saw a truck calling for example in new york. so i'm gaining that subtraction, california, and illinois. i say those protests are actually hurting. and the reason why they're hurting is because some independents are actually speaking back to black lives matter. they don't want a repeat of the burning down of the country that they saw
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a few summers ago. so i think that these protested unintentionally passed trigger post traumatic stress disorder or post traumatic process. this order was interesting on that one. you know, i've gotta look at never iraq. i look at alan because could the gods of war actually be our? do you think this final words that could busch jewish shoulders away from the democrat party and into the ranks republican party? are you in any way fearful of that? our, you know, this is the fantasy that's been going on now for a quarter of a century among the rich republicans that they can tear away the jewish folks from the democrats. does it make any sense to say that because they're a pal city and protests as protests against the democratic president and the democratic vice president that they're not tough enough on israel, therefore, jews are going to bad the democratic party. what did you think it would be exactly
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the opposite? that they would rally around the slack for actually seeing here some that goes back beyond the j. c. p. a way, but you may recall way back into the early 2, thousands. it's the jewish strategy. among republicans to try, that's here, which is from a democratic party, just as we saw the southern strategy before that and ever since, that's her. what rights others, from the democratic party gets the same thing and whatever, but, but as long as they don't say whether they reach, they will try to push, hold on. so i kind of were, it's never going to work. juice simply can make up their own minds. okay, so i'm going to give you both a quick holler at audrey. you courtney, you 1st of all and with andrew's you know, this, there's no trying to tear away. we're not talking about republicans reaching interior. what there is no doubt the data shows that the democrat tardies anti israel pro a mosse rhetoric is pushy. some i'm not even saying 10 percent. what is pushing
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a few people away from the democratic party? alan, i'm talking about a southern strategy of some democratic fantasy. but going back to the seventy's, i'm talking about real time data is happening. right. and are you got 30 seconds? listen again, it's, it gets back to this, you know, as i've heard it from jews on both sides of the aisle, they ask themselves the question, is it good for the jews? and there's nothing wrong with asking that question more and more form or democrats or more, more democratic jews are saying, you know, something i can't vote for this craziness anymore. okay, but a, i've got a tag onto the air and help me out on this side of it. what is it going to take then judge republicans just like they've had to kind of give up the thought a vote for women in recruiting women and other minorities ever. what is it going to take for the republican party to ever be able to attract the jewish folk over to their side? i think i think we're seeing it right now. it's a skits of frantic policy, which aides and rewards the enemies of the jewish state. at the sacrifice of the
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jewish state and then also there all the other is sort of ancillary issues that are causing voters to reconsider their support for the democratic party. and again, i'm hearing this from, from the rest of choosing centrist is going to right and left. okay, so alan, i've got to add a shortly. oh andre? yes. up there's high right? it. it takes time. the more more errors pushes the less weight. progressive anti israel pro terrorist position time will push them away. it's time. what about actually putting a jewish people in the office hours? unfortunately, it doesn't seem like of all the minorities have not been represented. the jewish population for being here a day has had very few actually work for hours we had lieberman. 8 and i think we just recently, um we had, we had what, what is it going to take for more jewish democrats to put their name on the ballot? could that also be how you're able to keep that support behind your party? well, 1st of all, i just want to say before i answer your question, that there is no anti jewish policy within democratic party period. it's just
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something that's been conjured up here in this panel and up to the heart of some purpose. the rhetoric is, as i said, with rhetoric type with what i don't even know what that means. but it, let me ask you a question. there bit fewer than a 100 president, some vice presidents in history the night since. the fact that the jews are only a tiny, tiny fraction of population is all the explanation you from that. from my state in florida there was a jew senator, in the 1850s. the jews are slightly over represented in the house of representatives substantially over represented in the us. so it's not that we are left out. i don't think anybody to make a case for that. yes would be nice to have a jewish. busy that just like it's been nice to have an african american president just like it's going to be really nice that will work all of that is true. but i don't think that we've been left out. and i said, well let me just remind you,
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barry goldwater actually was the 1st person of jewish faith who ran for prizes on the republican side. so both sides though, we had a few at there to list. i want to thank you. alan grayson, aber audrey and andrew like your thank you so much for joining us. forever. thank you very much for having me on board. thank you. okay, so to my point, we can talk about the lack of diversity and skin color and gender of those who have been elected to the highest office in the land. i find it interesting. the religious heritage of an individual is not nearly as appealing of a campaign motivator. almost all presidents and vice presidents had been members of the christian protestant church, were the only 2 members of the catholic church ever even being elected even a c. it had been elected as presidents over those of the other fates. i guess this is what happens when you have a country that was founded to escape and government sponsored religion. yet as we continue to find reasons here in the united states that divide as politically, i would hope the consistent values found in almost all religions would always be
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used unitas rather than weaponized to divide. okay, that's just my perspective. i've got to know hughes, thanks for watching the the the the, what is a part of it that the employee would posted isn't the deepest view of us and building the word or is it something deeper, more complex? might the present good? let's stop without please. is that scope out of or the
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in 1492 this evening, christopher columbus, rates to the bahamas and discover the new world for europe. the wealth of america and its fast territories. cosby envy of the europeans, especially the spaniards and the portuguese. they sought after taking over these lands. however, there lived indigenous peoples with a high culture and their own nationhood. there the barbaric colonization of america, which went down in history under the name of con deece that lasted for more than 100 years. in 1521 care design. cortez is done with doors captured and destroyed the capital of the aztec empire. daniel practically massacring the local population . following them, francisco pizarro is conquistadores destroyed the inca empire. as
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a result of spanish aggression, the ancient maya civilization collapse, suppressing the resistance of the indians. the invaders carried out mass executions . the horrendous genocide was aggravated by the diseases that the europeans had brought to america. the number of the indigenous population decreased 16 times from 251 and a half 1000000 people from keystone became one of the largest demographic good tasser fees of mankind and remains an indelible bloody stain in the history of that european colonial empires. the hey rick sanchez here. this is direct impact and this is what we're going to be talking about the
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those are classes all over the place is really is are fuming mad at their own government over the depths of 6 hostages. i'm rick sanchez. let's do this. thing of the, so there is this outcry that suddenly developed over the weekend, tens of thousands of people have been joining in taking to the streets and israel. this citizen, the outcry is caused by 1st and foremost the depths of 6 hostages is rarely hostages. but who are, is really, is really angry at that's an interesting question. who are they really angry at? mostly at their own government. they're angry at their own government. now let me show you 1st of all, what, what has been going on over the weekend. let's take a look at the fix the
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