neutrality affects uh, economic growth. the 2nd go to is william bussey's, $5.00, and the contin inflation. and the for the 1st, how from the year we have a close to $260000000000.00 didn't get which comes to about the $40000.00. yeah. $1000000000.00, which is quite good for you, or relatively small that can only leg melisha how i mean this issue of sincerity and busy with united states resisting the media player in terms of investments in date with melissa with 0 particular gemini, and most so notice china india and russia and who would benefit us and that would set that he prepared the economy. and our interest is, of course, the several people do cation to have the living conditions, housing, and this can be done only when they cannot me economic fundamentals and economic

role. and we have a solution, i think the potential is day. so we hope i know that we have talk to a lot of the major companies in russia to come to militia, an increase of particularly tories of that would be of benefit. and we also sending make it easier for me to send tories to visit the russia. so that would be great. you just mentioned the china india in russia. so i can not ask about briggs . you said earlier that you wanted to malaysia to become a member of the brakes. what does malays you have to offer to the block? what does it expect to gain in return? and in your opinion, what challenges me way ahead in the further expansion of brooks? what i'm yeah, they presented with the fact the present put in officially invited me to attend the beach meeting cars in the next month. um we uh our policy is of course to,

to strengthen the global self and bricks is a very important vehicle to think from that sort of a quite a bit ition among countries and the global itself. um, not necessarily antagonism, but at least to, to contain the, the, on sort of, well for other, you know, richer industrialized countries and, and to be able to elizabeth, spend the pleasure and, and together build up the fulls. uh, for example, the issue of um, using local cavities, would you have that right? in the past with china with a new this is a mix. it with thailand was talking to india. um, we're still quite depended under donna, but at least to reduce the impact and we need to do that and bricks is will cost another vehicle to do that. and uh, what can uh,

that's way in the way we will certainly benefit from mix. by the same time. we also have some is all relative strength and no small we, we can contribute because i said, or we also quit any part of it. and i see a definitely to what extent do think brooks financial institutions like the new development bank, could compete with the western institutions like the international monetary fund or the world bank. a, how do you assess the track record and you know, what do people think? what's the image of these organizations like in the global south that you were talking about? you see the something back the long time ago i did propose the setting up with the ition one to to define it. precisely because of i will believe that there must be a tendency mechanism to complement and also sometimes to withstand

the precious untoward pleasures. so it is not necessarily to compete because i may have because it is too important and critical in the nation. organize it, which we are packed off. but there's nothing stopping us from providing ultimate the mechanisms. and similarly, the new development bank, which you were looking at, did very csv in order to participate and, and um, with bix supporting it, then at least the robust self. but typically the more the developing either really and countries would benefit the immensity and, and they have at least a better position to negotiate with the powers. one of the prospect. so for this idea, your idea was stablish and an aging monitor the fund. is there any progress and that's and what is the mechanisms in place uh, you call up to a to a,

to my court where you have these uh, some financial infection in the context. but at the 11th, we have discussed this seriously within cn, and was china to native of somebody, at least the payment is still the japan. um sure. then it was vision. is that taking place? so it is more challenging in the complex and you know anything new which is seen to be yes, not necessarily telling to but then as the alternative to, to establish international some interest infrastructure. he's also seen and the some um suspicion which i do believe it should be sold because we are now providing all to the mechanisms that do not necessarily displace the complement quite. i think one of the latest of the trends and this is what the russian government and the chinese governments are saying, it's all about multiple arity,

you know, in alternatives. it can be just one making isn't working for everybody. regarding books, again, many uh, books and countries, the member states are quite concerned that the western supplied weapons are being used against russia. what's your stance on this? no, we of full peaceful and we should be the, the got you creed on most of the guys i know we decided to draw seduce, inflicted on, on the police and people in gaza and the inability to complete a bundle in the know principles familiar wisdom powers that is to be shocking and but the us mail position is a full piece and therefore we do not support any sort of a, a enhancement of a defense. uh and um, and so the tech and the country you're talking about does uh,

how do you assess the western policies towards the, the, these really posting and conflict and what is the was doing to stop it, especially compared to countries in the global south, including of course, malaysia of what they supposed to do, i say the bundle in the lower principles be and isn't in the opinion contradictions with the see, you know, conflicts like in ukraine as compared to guys. you see that the, the appellate and contradictions. sometimes i call it even a book and you go, but the still activity was the button is then to secure peace. peace means the stop, the color is color pulling this up. can you imagine in 2024? we still have countries being colonized and, and the end as being totally to condone and uh, it is the techs and, and the button,

but then in goes into gaza. so i think we have it easy so strongly. there's been, i think some positive remarks is statements. we will from many western countries, but to be europe calling this troll misha's to stop the continued bombings and the dosages. but the result was the national international tragedy that refilled to assist. you've criticized actually accused the worst i would say of trying to control the narrative around the. is there any posting and compet? can you elaborate on that? you know, because i'm interested in media every time you talk about the does a situation they lose. the mass is the 7th of october. and i said, look, are you completely blind to do? you want to any issues? 3 of them, knuckle barnett to 48. and the continued coordinator position,

disposition over the right. so the common people, the destruction of the most and just or, and that's our problem. i would see that the problem, the school in addition, the problem in disposition. and if that is the correct method, this to my mind then retains resolve this. and i, i don't think that any strong position against any sort of attempt to settle amicably. but how successful do you think these uh, western media efforts have been knowing that there has been so many pro, posting and rallies all across the world, used to be more successful in the last few decades, but no longer now. i mean you have uh so, so me, do you have the young

a younger generation expressing their voice very strong terms and is it to me is very impressive. even in service have been to make invest east and i know these because they used to just the stone and realize that the, there's a great, the witness, which is not necessarily a new thing because you remember the mounting demonstration at the time of the vietnam mall the position taken mainly by students in the i think this is being repeated on the posting in the plate. do you think they're just being ignored as well? i do see you can need to know the voice of the majorities. it's meant to minutes of time, this would be resolved. it is i'm, i'm in a, i used to see that i'm an incorrigible optimist. what can countries in the global south learn from western policies on the east, really boasting and conflict with the fuzzy?

you must continue to engage the question because i think the west is not home. would you this entity? the many that it makes in just seems to be more understanding the more make a boat. we have no more just a resolution to the problem, but also to the lines that we also have to then organize that was to be most too strong to be able to contain the precious nobody's in our control. so this to me, these them, although to me, breaks and the global cells in many the focus should be mainly the economic development. what about the united states you've called on washington to help influence and bring the stop to these conflict in garza, why do you think they've been so reluctant to do so when that should be addressed to them? but then, as i said, a lot of from in a voice is that one's to do it,

but it was set this stablish. and so you see the disconnect in the name of democracy. apparently the aspirations of the common man is not reflected in the policies of the elite. um, hopefully things will change too, but um, it is sometimes difficult, although your skin season voices no loud, even of the need to see at least stop the aggression now. yeah. me so happy to regarding is will. uh, it seems that malaysia is been quite adamant to keep plays really, companies from operating in malaysia in the country. what are these restrictions designed to achieve? well, at least we take a position, it'd be a relatively small country, but we see, look, uh you cannot ignore the legitimate expeditions of the prison people. you cannot continue with the daily bombings in the cities. and in this more we can do

just to see, you know, then we don't have any to do with you. that's the position that we take. but if we look at russia, for instance, is the most sanctioned country in the world, yet the economy is things strong despite all the restrictions. do you think these the sanctions would effect is really any way on your behalf? no full full as we, as a small country, we just take a position and to me that it presents the center moves and concerns of the police. and people, as, as it is what i can do, the maximum that i can do, where they will impact these liquid on me. i don't believe is good to be that easy . although they're having challenges even intimately. they're also load the voice really is i that do not one to have the do, don't want to support discontinued atrocities, infinity with,

to negotiate but your russian and speed has been different because us stronger, larger. and you have this strong resolve and neglect history. some of the amazing things better than many listed numbers of us felt that's true. and the did so many. yeah, and i think that many features look at the and we've got to production in new technology. look at the, the banking system. look, i mean, you know, why, i don't think anybody we, we expect that the, the economy to be doing so well in these circumstances with this amount of sanctions associates. yeah. that's what russians are known for often, historically. but anyway, it's less than one. i'd like to talk about freedom of information and freedom of speech. the entire was probably was a surprise to seem the least, may be shocked by the recent,

the rest of the founder of the telegram messaging at the bible door of in france. what's your stance on this? well, i believe in the media freedom, but when you didn't allow for me a criminal activities, all that up for you children, 6 tools using that competitor you, someone must be held responsible in the meeting, the minutes here for example, one good to meet the so tight be good to continue. it has been to the social media and uh, we want to beat somebody to be comfortable. you, you low a freedom to torture. freedom to that is that is also in people committing suicide. and we take action. disease is a friend to freedom of speech. you know, you have freedom of speech but not freedom to allow to encourage people to kill or

mud or inc, that of children and to be used as a full persecution for 6 days. and so we do understand the position ticket and we are also studying the possibility of, of curbing this big and criticize me is a prime minister. they have caught most of names that it's not an issue so much, but we use to doing what does that a city a criminal act? oh, in this case it says is mentioned the let to the site over the the country, the system cannot condone is immortal. to condo in this and therefore we must, in some legislation in place. of course the things you just mentioned, these are terrible terrible things and i would never support anything like that.

however, there is a line between a logical qualify, let's say protection and censorship. i mean, you've yourself, you've criticized the meta for deleting your instagram thoughts. what is that is that censorship and how should it be addressed? well, no, it is also associated with this here, but then you can have a social media and the name of freedom and democracy says sending things if you don't like and was just my condolences to my mind. yeah. what so? so offense, even that i mean these guy was assisting it and they express condolence. so um, what else we do respect and, and on the feet of which is to me is fundamental. but they also have to do new like weiss is all for when the company was tempted to decide what freedom is.

so there's a down rules and i think these are universally accepted. i mean, no criminal activity. uh no can do any of that option and stealing funds or even the 6 of people sent me this uh, southern tundra mental issue that we agree. so there's no call does issue this quote. i think universal venue was probably 70 most of the companies that currently control the internet. they're located in united states. so what does that mean for the world and how showed, specifically, countries in the global south protect themselves from this pressure and to control? we didn't have a problem the me issues with the come from united this diesel, russia, or china, but the rules apply to own. so if they're meant to them, it would have a stem from united states into, for,

with these goals. i things say the quite advice and some digital and e i so they can. but then the, my point is that the rules must be applied. consistency as to all. and um, the i as interesting issue, for example, that then we, you know, it is both of us health and particularly so it was administrative experience. we should also make sure that the, the i, the present of the country or settle values. but the zip is in the universe of the venue is which means the input into the i should then the present. so it should be a complete to a small company and see if they have upset the menus. i mean this been through it and the studies about the fever, the weights it gives the blakes and number. so if you say, you know,

the actual values of ethics is more pronounced now than ever before. definitely who knows what these technologies might lead to. if again, they're not at least carried, you know, in some way. and i want to ask you about the china, which is a, quite an active trade partner of malaysia for the past 15 years. but to have uh, the reason to rising economic and political tensions between beijing and washington effected this relationship in any way. and how do you see the development of my wages, ties with china in the future as well? um like 2 ways of rush. uh me with china because is about the neighbor button 35 now major investments and uh, with decomposition uh to benefit from the sales relations. um,

yesterday's, a good concern because of these items being tension between a distance in china. but uh, we cannot be full. so big sites, we am a new button and the fundamentals of 3 and investments, really that just states cumulative leads to number one. but china is an important player. so re engage more than ever before in all the fetus in the company as a mentor. if i because it's comprehensive that does it, but the ship and i'm and um, hopefully things of, you know, the tension can be contained. of course we do discussing this issue as i was tennessee, but i my, my position is that the ballot to the lease or regionally within us? yeah, we should to continue to engage, but i do think it is wise for any other outside power to be moved. because then it

will for the complete kits to the situation. haven't even extensions between china and the united states effected any weight of the asian region in general. well, it has said to me, a call some, some cause the nation because of the presence of, you know, be so intention to the extent and the defense. so some countries um, but otherwise yeah, as for now it is set to be contained. we are concerned because it will affect the economic region. although um for formulation because we think the centrality do we have also been able to. so i think a new investment from that is these or china into militia like because of a semiconductor, which we are quite to advance though. um,

but ultimately the settlement of dispute between china and united states or like could i sure in europe and the mattress dates were still going to be a major contribution to the finally, many western officials like to say that the global south countries and don't like to join their efforts against russia because of certain benefits that they receive from us. but what's your stance on this? and why hasn't the malaysia teamed up with the west against wash will want to on, based on what principles i mean. we have coal on both parties to negotiate and settled. we want and a peaceful resolution to the conflict. and the many, quite clear a position. but why then the is for the

complete get the issue and yes, the issues of these but you clean for guys for them into the have a common sort of a stand that o l. a universe to stand it in dealing with the issues. i mean, um, so it was, oh invention opens is will cause to find the net committed solution. no, no. to take the site or the west. it gets special. what benefit visits for us? uh, like, uh, uh, united states because of the china. we maintain good relations with boss and the way compel us to dig sites where they create these potential problems. this is different system. you know, they have 1000000000 people to take care of that to set. what system is for us is the democratic transition in melissa,

and that's the system we apply. or we choose what is doing button to my main is to secure peace and security in the region and the to focus on the economic. and that's why i'm here in the russia. i think the beginning of the school system is old policy to english, and we cannot satisfy everyone. um, i mean, i've been through the states through china. why not russia, in fact, interested in, you know, this is my 1st visit to russia. how are you finding me and so far, i'm excited and been i'm able to see today in my, in my picture that i'm in no rush removed from the novel. so just to knock and play games of, i'm not come until i know the story and this in system is i'm some form of excitement actually i'm looking for it today, but unfortunately i have not covered the for too many places i'm looking forward.

see most cold, particularly send this book, which i think, which is one of the most marvelous cities of the finding of your last last question . i promise, i just can't, can't not ask you this, the meeting with the president. what's the biggest impression that you're going to take back to malaysia from that meeting? no, he was exceeding the kind friendly and and um, i'm a good listener to extend the patient is discussing issues and, and very forthcoming. and i, i'm impressed with this candidness and fitness to listen and they come with it and, and so the very responsive and then let's look at some of our contributions and discussions in the discussions and, and i look forward to,

to enhancing the so the better relations i'm poking mainly the economic relations and the culture, the, it's the technology education. we sure. the many disciplines you have much more advance and he was exceedingly kind comes of responding and looking at it as you know, a friendly mission and a good friend. thank you. so much for your time. thank you. you. thank you. thank you. the release of russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense

communities of all sense and up to 5 must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on rochester thing and split the r t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the tv service was for the question, did you say even twist, which is the in this thing of the continent of boxes. oh send we and said

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