the potential in the russia is that, and which would benefit the country. the latest news coming out of the united states now is that washington isn't using russia and specifically r t off of meddling in the 2020 for presidential election. do you have any comments on that? what's your opinion? well, i think the american system is strong is they have manage the system. so the thing should underestimate their capacity to protect their own interest in this issues, at least because of the political, but to do the elections. but they've got every, they've concrete evidence. they can pick it up, otherwise i think you do this is some interesting go sit in the office that we enjoy to do then not taken very seriously. let's talk about the malaysian economy for, for a little bit. it's on the rise,

especially under your administration. there's been a growth rate of about 4.2 percent, i believe in the 1st quarter of this year alone in regards to foreign policy. how does a malaysia's in neutrality affect economic growth? the 2nd go to is william bussey's, $5.00, and the contin inflation and the for the 1st half of the year, we have a close to 200 $60000000000.00 didn't get which comes to about the or $40000000000.00, which is quite good for you. or relatively small, a good know me like but as you how i mean this issue of sincerity and dizzy we did that as deep freeze is still a major player in terms of investments in date with melissa was due to protect the germany and more so notice china, india and russia and who would benefit us?

and that was said that he prepared the economy. and our interest is, of course, the several people do cation to have the living conditions, housing, and this can be done only when they cannot me economic fundamentals, and they come to me, girl, and we had a solution. i think the potential is day. so we hope i know that we have talk to a lot of major companies in russia to come to militia, an increase of particularly tories of that would be of benefit. and we also sending make it easier for municipal stories to visit the russia. so that would be great. you just mentioned the china india in russia. so i can not ask about briggs . you said earlier that you wanted to malaysia to become a member of the brakes. what does malays you have to offer to the block?

what does it expect to gain in return? and in your opinion, what challenges me way ahead in the further expansion of brooks? what i'm yeah, they presented with the fact the person put in officially invited me to attend the beach meeting cars in the next month. um we uh our policy is of course to, to strengthen the global self and breaks is a very important vehicle to strengthen that sort of quite a bit ition among countries in the global itself. um, not necessarily antagonism, but at least to, to contain the, the, on sort of, well for other, you know, richer industrialized countries and, and to be able to elizabeth spend the pleasure and, and to give the build up the false. uh, for example, the issue of, of using local cavities which you have done right in the past with china, with a new nisa doing mixed up with tylen was talking to india. um,

we're still quite depended under donna, but at least to reduce the impact. and we need to do that, and bricks is of course in the vehicle to do that. and what can the best way in the way we will certainly benefit from books by the same time. but we also have some is all relative strength and no small. we, we can contribute because i said, or we also equipment people to play in us. yeah, definitely. to what extent do you think brooks financial institutions, like the new development bank, could compete with the western institutions like the international monetary fund or the world bank? a, how do you assess the track record and you know, what do people think? what's the image of these organizations like in the global south that you were talking about? you see the something make the long time ago i did propose the setting up with the

ition. wanted to define it precisely because of i will believe that there must be alternate the mechanism to complement and also sometimes to withstand the precious untoward pleasures. so it is not necessarily to compete because i may have requested the it is too important and critical in possession, organize it, which we are popped off. but there is nothing stopping us from providing ultimate through mechanisms. and similarly, the new development bank, which you were looking at, did very csv in order to participate and, and the with bix supporting it, then at least the robust self. but typically the more the developing me to really and countries would benefit immensity and, and they have at least

a better position to negotiate with the powers. one of the prospect. so for this idea, your idea was stablish and aging minded to the fund. is there any progress and that's what the mechanisms in place uh you call up to a, to a, to my court where you have these uh, some financial infection in the context. but at the lower level, we have discussed this seriously within the cn and was china to native of somebody at least the, the payment to so the japan, um sure. then it was vision. is that taking place? so it is more challenging in the complex and you know anything new which is seen to be yes, not necessarily tell him to, but then of the alternative to, to establish international finishes infrastructure. he's also seen and the some um suspicion which i don't believe it should be sold because we are now providing

all to the mechanisms that do not necessarily displace the complement quite. i think one of the latest of the trends and this is what the russian government and the chinese government are saying, it's all about multiple arity, you know, and alternatives. it can be just one making isn't working for everybody. regarding books, again, many uh, books in countries, the member states are quite concerned that the western supply, the weapons are being used against russia. what's your stance on this new we of full peaceful and we should be. they really got you creed on multiple guys on how we decide to just reduce inflicted on the police and people in gaza and the inability to complete a bundle and no principals familiar wisdom powers. that is to be shocking and but the smell position is

a full piece. and therefore we do not support any sort of a, a enhancement of a defense. uh and um, and so the tech and the country you're talking about does a, how do you assess the western policies towards the, these really posting and conflict and what is the was doing to stop it, especially compared to countries in the global south, including of course, malaysia, or what they supposed to do, i say the button doesn't mendham level principles be and isn't in the opinion contradictions. when they see, you know, conflicts like in ukraine as compared to guys are you see that the, the appellate and contradictions. sometimes i'll call it even a book and you go, but the still activity was the button is then to secure peace. peace means

the stop. the color is color calling is a can you imagine in 2024? we still have countries being colonized and in the end as being totally to condone and it is the tech's and, and the button, but then in goes into gaza. so i think we have it easy so strongly. there's been, i think some positive remarks is statements. we will from many western countries, but to be europe holding this troll misha's to stop the continued bombings and the dosages. but the result was the national international tragedy that refilled to assist. you've criticized actually accused the worst i would say of trying to control the narrative around the. is there any posting and compet? can you elaborate on that? you know, because i'm interested in media every time you talk about the does

a situation they lose, the mass is don't. but some of the to but and i said, look, are you completely blended? do you want to any issues? 3 over the neck barnett to 48, and the continued put on a position disposition over the right to the common people, the destruction of those most in churches, us. and that's our problem. i would see that the problem, the school. in addition, the problem in disposition and if that is the correct method, this to my mind then retains as of this and i don't take any strong position against any sort of attempt to settle and be complete. but how successful do you think speeds? uh, western media efforts have been knowing that there has been so many pro palestinian

rallies all across the world. used to be more successful in the last few decades, but no longer now. i mean you have uh so, so me, do you have the young younger generation expressing their voice very strong terms and is it to me is very impressive. even in civil have been and make invest east and i know these because i used to teach the stone and realize that the, there's a great the witness, which is not necessarily a new english. do you remember the mounting demonstrations at the time of the vietnam mall, the position they can mentally, my students and the i think this has been repeated on the posting in the plate. do you think they're just being ignored? well i do see you can even know the voice of the majorities each minutes, minutes of time. this is the result of this i i'm in a,

i used to see that i'm an incorrigible optimist. what can countries in the global south learn from western policies on the east, really boasting and conflict with the fuzzy? you must continue to engage the question because i think the west is not home. would you this entity, the many that it makes in just seems to be more understanding and more and make a boat we have uh, you know, more just the resolution to the problem. um, but also to the airlines that we also have to then organize that was to be most too strong to be able to contain the precious nobody's in our control. so this, to me, these them all though to me, breaks and the global cells in many the focus should be mainly the economic development. what about the united states you've called on washington to help influence and bring the stop to these competed in in guys

a why do you think they've been so reluctant to do so when they should be addressed to them? but then, as i see it, a lot of prominent voices at once to do it, but it was set this stablish, i'm and so you see the disconnect in the name of democracy. apparently the aspirations of the common man is now reflected in the policies of the elite, or hopefully things will change too, but um, it is sometimes difficult or low. you skin season voices no loud. you with them of the need to see at least stop the exemption now. yeah. me still happening regarding isabel. uh, it seems that malaysia is been quite adamant to keep these really companies from operating in malaysia in the country. what are these restrictions designed to

achieve? well, at least we take a position, it'd be, uh, relatively small country, but we see in the you cannot ignore the legitimate expeditions of the police in people. you cannot continue with the daily bombings in the cities. and in this more we can do just to see and know, then we don't have any to do with you. that's a position that we take. but if we look at russia, for instance, is the most sanctioned country in the world yet. so the economy is things strong despite all the restrictions. do you think these sanctions would effect is really any way on your behalf? no full full as we, as a small country, we just take a position and to me that represents the center. most of the concerns of the malice and people or is it is what i can do, the maximum that i can do where they will impact the slightly cut on me. i don't

believe is good to be that easy, although they're having challenges even intimately. they're also load the voice really is that do not one to have it could do, don't want to support discontinued, just reduce infinity of it to negotiate but your russian experience be different because you, us stronger, larger and you have this strong resolve and neglect history. some of the amazing things better than many listed numbers of us felt that's true on this. i did so many. yeah. look, i think it nomic feed is look at the and we've got some production in new technology. look at the, the banking system. look, i mean, you know why, i don't think anybody really expected the economy to be doing so well in these circumstances with this amount of sanctions associates. yeah. that's what russians

are known for, often story quick. but anyway, one i like to talk about freedom of information to freedom of speech. the entire was probably was a surprise to seem the least may be shocked by the recent, the rest of the founder of the telegram messaging at the bible door of in friends. what's your stance on this? well, i believe in the media freedom, but when you then allow for me a criminal activities all that will for you children 6 to using that it better to use someone was beheld as possible in reading the minutes here for example, one good to meet the so tight because the continued has been to the social media and we want to beat somebody to be comfortable. you, you low a freedom to torture. freedom to that is that he's also in people

committing suicide. and we take action disease is an, a fun to freedom of speech. you know, you have freedom of speech but not freedom to allow to encourage people to kill or to mud or think that a children to be used as a full profession or 6 days. and so we do understand the position ticket and we are also studying the possibility of, of curbing this big and criticize me is by me to so they have to call them to solve names. that is not an issue so much, but we use to doing what is the a city a criminal act? oh, in this case it says is mentioned the let to the site over the, the country. the system cannot condone,

is immoral to condo in this. and therefore, we must, in some legislation in place of course, uh the things you just mentioned, these are terrible, terrible things and i would never support anything like that. however, there is a line between a logical qualify, let's say protection and censorship. i mean, you, you, yourself, you criticize the meta for deleting your instagram post. what is that is that censorship and how should it be addressed? well, no, it is also says sheep immunization, but then you can have a social media in the name of freedom and democracy. so soothing things that they don't like and was just my condolences to my me a what so, so offensive in that, i mean these guy was smith and they express condolence. so um,

why us, we do respect and, and on the feet of which is to me is fundamental. but they also have to do new like weiss is all for when the company was that they do decide what freedom is. so there's a down rules and i think these are universally accepted. i mean, no criminal activity or no condoning of that option and stealing funds or even the 6 a beat with some of these uh, southern and a mental issue that we agree. so this no call does issue this quote. i think universal venue was probably 70, most of the companies that currently control the internet. they're located in united states. so what does that mean for the world and how showed, specifically, countries in the global south protect themselves from this pressure and to control?

we didn't have a problem, the me issues with the come from united this diesel, russia, or china. but the rules apply to own, so if they're meant to them, it would have a stem from united states into, for, with these goals. i things say the quite advice and some digital and the i so they can. but then the, my point is that the rules must be applied consistency and to all and um, the i as interesting issue, for example, the then v in the blue bus health and particularly so was administrative experience . we should also make sure that the, the, i'd rather present the country or settle values, but the zip is in the universe of the venue was which means the input into the i

should then the present. so it should be a complete to a small, comprehensive the of, of set, the menus. i mean this been through it and the studies about the fever, the whites that gives the blakes of a. so if you say, you know, the actual values of ethics is more for nouns now, then ever before, definitely who knows what these technologies might lead to. if again, they're not at least carried, you know, in some way. and i want to ask you about the china, which is a quite an active trade partner of malaysia for the past 15 years. but to have uh, the recent rising economic and political attentions between beijing and washington effected this relationship in any way. and how do you see the development of my wages, ties with china in the future? what like, who is the bush me with china?

because it is about the neighbor button taking 59 major investments. and we take a position to benefit from the sales relations. yesterday's, the concern because of these items being tension between a distance in china. but we cannot be falls through the big sites we need button the button in terms of 3 and investments. really that just states to me the least, the number one. but china is an important player to re engage more than ever before in all the fetus in the company as a mentor, if i, because it's comprehensive that does it. but the issue and i'm and um, hopefully things of, you know, the tension can be contained of what we do discussing this issue. so i was trying to see, but i, my,

my position is that the ballot leads or regionally within us. yeah. we should to continue to engage, but i do think it is wise for any on the outside power to be moved. because then it would for the complete kits to the situation. to have these tensions between china and the united states effected any weight of the asian region in general. well, it has sent them a, a call some, some cost a nation because of the presence of, you know, be so intention to the extent and the defense. so some countries um, but otherwise yeah, for now we just said that because deed, we're concerned because it will affect the economic region. although um for formulation, because we think the centrality do we have also been able to take

a new investment from net just these or china, into militia like for the semiconductor, which we are quite to advance though. um, but ultimately the settlement of dispute between china and united states or like could i sure in europe and the mattress dates were still going to be a major contribution to the finally, many western officials like to say that the global south countries and don't like to join their efforts against russia because of certain benefits that they receive from us. but what's your stance on this? and why hasn't the malaysia teamed up with the west against wash will want to on vision? what principles i mean, um we, we have coal on both parties to negotiate and settled. we went in

a peaceful resolution to the conflict and the menu quite clear a position. the wind and the this is for the complete get the issue. and yes, the issues of these but you clean all guys of them into the have a common sort of a stand it oh, you know universe of stand it in dealing with these issues. i mean, um, so this is what is oh, intentions? oh, position is will cause to find that net committed solution not not to take to eat or site or the way it gets to the actual. what benefit is for us like a uh you have to season be, that'd be china. we maintain good alicia's voice and welcome paylocity excites

where they create these potential problems. if this is a different system, you know, have 1000000000 people to take care of that to set. what system is for us is the democratic transition in melissa, and that's the system we apply. we choose what is important to my main is to secure peace and security in the region and to focus on the economy. and that's why i am here in the russia, i think could be a school system, is openness to english. and we cannot satisfy everyone. um, i may have been through the states through china. why not russia, in fact, interested in, you know, this is my 1st visit to russia. how are you finding it so far? i'm excited and then i would see today, in my, in my picture that i'm in no rush removed from the novel. so best to knock

and blames of, i'm not come until i know the story and this in system is i'm some form of excitement actually i'm looking for it to very much. unfortunately, i have not covered the same too many places i'm looking forward. see most co particularly send this, but i wish i think good. just one of the most marvelous seduce of the finding of your last last question. i promise i just can't, can't the not ask you this, the meeting with the president? what's the biggest impression that you're going to take back to malaysia from that meeting? no, he was exceedingly kind friendly. and um, i'm a good listener to extend the patient is discussing issues and, and very forthcoming. and i, i'm impressed with this candidness

and fitness to listen and they come with it and, and so the very responsive and let's look at some of our contributions and discussions in the discussions and, and i look forward to, to enhancing you. so the better relations, i'm focusing mainly the economic relations and the culture, the at the technology education we sure be in many disciplines you have much more advance and he was exceedingly kind cms of responding and looking at it as a you know, a friendly mission and a good friend. thank you so much for your time. thank you. you. thank you. thank you.

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