sama tree. this malicious conduct, the wicked pdx space. he establishes their old terrier motives of defending asian news, international by publishing, false and misleading content against donnie. this clearly demonstrates wilful disobedience of the order. well, we spoke to an indian supreme court lawyer who's also a tech data law expert who told us if a company operates in india, it must adhere to the nations rules or face the consequences. you have to comply as a platform, considering yourself as a black bowman and dmitri, you will have to comply with those interpretations in india. if you do not, then you do not enjoy the faith of protection, which is guaranteed on that idea to these blackbox. what does that mean? that means that be what, as because any other person who's buckled that crime up was getting to what can i know what i need to apply and you will be tried that will be if i of that can be registered against you. still you continue. yes, there is an aspect there when it comes to national security when it comes to, nor do when it comes to what the us but the government of india and ben southern oh

porters coming into the section. and that can be the stuff that can be picked on as a next that goes into it. so i think that's to be paid to the if, if you are in between as an officer of justice, board enforcement of doors and made me think of platform, which i'm sticking over people's divide or making the platform bed illegal activities. i've been continuing on your giving of protection total is coming loose . that's what i think most strict options. i'm either going to ask them and be there should be open for those things. but let me explain thoughts to, to me. the know ortiz stuff done with the spokeswoman for the russian foreign ministry. i was always re at the heart of a talk. older questions handle, including what the most whose response may be to this week's us purge against this channel. sit tight, the phone interview can be watched here, right, and the,

my mouse sooner than see and welcome back to going underground will cost to go around the world from the u. a. if you happen to stop by these riley embassy and one of the world capitals arming the genocide and gaza today, you'll find thousands of u. k. security forces on highlights today's protests in the british capital. follow unprecedented mass killing of men, women, and children in west asia. the u. k. states, together with its totalitarian media, has responded by controlling the story and detaining activists like sarah wilkinson . this all in a week where you a woman, a said you on healey, double down on 320 weapons export licenses to netanyahu before applying the meeting

at around 15 and base and us occupied germany to discuss the u. k. is multi $1000000000.00 arming, of a ukraine that is banned elections, whole position bodies, and media. is it any wonder that the government of the u. k, formerly owner of the country of palestine, that is to some known as israel, is in such a frenzy to shut down palestinian solidarity by binding university protests and arresting defences. joining me from a london in turmoil is a political candidate to brandy they. you can secretary a will criminal live on u. k. television. she hasn't been seen on mainstream u. k. tv since fiona valley is national campaigns coordinator for the u. k. revolutionary communist party, co ordinating multiple pro palestinian and competence across u. k. universities, some of which have now been banned. fiona, thank so much for coming on going underground, you know, in a normal, well peaceful world. i might be asking you about the class war of the grenville fire, which going underground covered a lot when we were based in london,

the whitewash inquiry too many, but i suppose i better begin. why will you and babs tens or hundreds of thousands to be outside israel's embassy in london today? thank you so much for having me on the show. i mean, the majority of people of the po show that the majority of people in person do not support or israel is doing, do not support even the british government's involvement in supply and funding for israel, and it's genocide against the palestinians. despite that, we have a government that is continuing to support that. and so it's important for us to consistently demonstrate that as much as we can demonstrate, actually what the vast majority of people think. in spite of everything that the government has done, the british government when it was led by the tories, i'm still now when it said by labor, have done as much as they come to intimidate people out with protesting you reference. of course, the rest of the john, the sir wilkinson,

and the clubs didn't clump down students in the comments. i was that the so us and coming earlier this week talking to students who have been expelled and suspended, prevented even from graduating. they themselves saw swell, appraised, and then i think at one point very, very early on, she tried to say it might be a criminal offense to waive the policy in the slide in an aggressive manner. they've tried so hard to criminalize and so on to this whole movement. and so it's $71.00 for us to be out of that to show that it's not lucky. and actually much to the dismay, i think it's getting bigger. yeah. so l a bravo in that bar is johnson or wishes for that good official? him, i'm secretary, you called or will criminal this labor government style him are unpopular when he was elected. secchia, storm or agent of, of, of my 6th accused or by some people. but financed by israel,

this whole new british government clearly funded by nobody as to israel. what do, what do you make of that meets this genocide, of course. so media saying no keys. stump 2 licenses of a child killing weapons this week. i think it shows the what's happening in, in palestine today is a reflection of a global system. i'm actually what western imperialism wants to maintain across the entire region. and if your individual who seeks to defend british capitalist interest, it doesn't matter what part to your from. if you're in defenders that you were going to end up defending israel, you can try and claim you're doing it in a soft way as they try to. you know, announce with this really pitiful, you know, we're suspending just a few of the arms and the trying to make a big deal out of this. but everyone can see through it. they are, all the defend is actually, or whatever america's impaired his interest on the region and the happy to go along

with that. and as a result, that justifying what israel is continuing to do, i think its 7 pool and not allow any smugness from the la party that, that somehow more progressive in the tories. why on palestine? because it's absolutely categorically false and no one is dying. it, it makes me think of this um, this quite by malcolm x where he says something like, if you stopped me in the back 9 inches that told them i felt 6 inches. that's not progress. and then he says, even if you pull out the whole way that student progress progress would be healing the wounds of the, of the blue brakes. and the british state historically, as you've said, is so conflicts that and setting up the problems and the sufferings of the palestinians i'm still today is to just to in that. and so it's really important that we don't allow the labor government installment. and david,

allow me himself is also had, you know, a lobbyist science lobbying for a long time and received money from them that they're allowed. no moral superiority on this question. i don't think anyone is buying it will. yeah. allow me the foreign secretary. he was at a banquet with these rarely invested of britons to be auto valley, who will be basically behind these barricades today of the demonstrations and the, the foreign secretary allow me said to said without you, i would never have made it to where i am. because the, some of the people there at the is haley a, a function paid for his harvard, the university fees, as far as i understand it, storm, i was asked by a outgoing, so neck about whether you didn't form the united states before these pitiful 3 licenses. presumably on legal advice and so i'm saying the lawyers were going to resign. the official government lawyers were going to resign if they had allowed

these particular weapons sent in this, in yahoo to kill children. what do you make of uh, this relationship between the united states and then stomach said, image of the yes, yes, i told with the u. s. was informed. yeah, i think it shows how bryston is kind of a like a lot sold to american imperialism and american interest rates. and we'll go along essentially with what the americans says. and it also shows, in a distorted way, how even the britain once was this huge empire, that kind of, you know, ruled the way of them played this master role in the world stage in a distorted way that has declined. and now they play the role of just supporting america. i'm. i think it also shows that no matter who wins, even the us selection, you know, salma, i'm even david law, me in the cost, i think had made some tweets against trump and you know, said it was and he had terrible positive. we know that as soon as they get into the

positions that they're in every single slot into place, and they'll continue to play the role that is necessary to facilitate west it appeared as interest. i'm those interests a set by america, 1st and foremost, which is the most dominant reaction we pilot in the whole world. and we're seeing is just, it's just the loyal laptop to the service. whoever is in the white house, i think. and clearly the comments that you're helping to organize around the country, the people that share your opinion, that you just gave me there. but does it leads who don't support being conference or palestine or an understanding of the levels of class warfare in your country? will they similarly switch to trump? have trump wins in november? the i think so as in i think that was most useful to these people even if they would prefer small harris to donald trump. the thing they

are most stead of is a powerful palestine may have been a powerful movement of the working class in the country. no matter what way it's going. they can accommodate any individual politician, even if they're not exactly on the spectrum. so long as that's still in the same comp, i mean, you talked about possible that this is exactly it. well, today in america and britain and in many other places, i think is polarizing. i think the divide between i would say, the routing house and what most is becoming bigger, inequality soaring and political opinion is polarizing. i think it's very rare to come across someone who is this interested in politics or considers themselves just in the center. the state is credit, essentially brown is completely collapsing. and how stein is very interesting because it serves as a litmus test for where do you stand,

isn't with the oppressed or with the oppressor? who do you defend? is it american imperialist interests, or is it the right to people to lift the lice, dignity? and i think the always the well thought is being expressed in various different formats and whether it's triangle, kamala harris, even the most sensible politicians in britain or whatever it is. they can see the ultimately they're on the same side. i will show up in my job as an organizer is to show as many people as possible. yeah, we are on 2 different sides and we should unite our struggles against these coming up presses. and i think the ground for that today really exists. i think it exist on his brother and it's thoughts while i'm planning on giving a chance to make those arguments on the totality area and media system in britain. how important is it that the message you just gave me? there is no transmitted on the legacy media channels, the murdock newspapers, whether it be the times the son, the guardian,

or whatever that alone the channels you have that and that message made similarly by politicians in the united states. yeah, i mean the main stream media inverse in this course is not going to yeah, allow the most radical voices onto it. i mean, not even just that even the more moderate voices who do make on every think that they say is immediately tempted or corrected by the interviewer who's discussing it . we've all seen that the interviews where someone talks about the genocide and palestine and they're immediately told we have to because israel would not claim that genocide does take the so yes, of course israel, you know, they always have to give israel side of the equation. but mostly the ma, i think what's important to highlight is why do they do this? another example is there's been a lot in the news recently about this 1000000 and mike glitch mc each to

round, you know, live british mill gates on a us. people absolutely fascinated by what is taking place and talking about it and discussing it and then discussions about all cpu up safe, you know, should this be happening meanwhile, you know, people are dying every single day one in britain jew to austerity, always it well for instance, involvement, whether it's in gaza or i should say today, you know, this week that's been discussions about the rental inquiry, but as now come out. 72 people to let's be honest with much it because profit seeking companies and people comments and making costs. 72 people who died as a result of that. but the way in which all of this reported the distorted manner in which is reported reflects what are the interests these not a domestic papers and mainstream media institutions are trying to defend or what are the interest. but the trying to shake in terms of public opinion propaganda.

all of it says, whatever it is that the british government of the british leading boss needs to promote what needs to put out there. and that's why it is very difficult to get on these these programs and put these ideas across. but nonetheless, we try and we continue. and i think what's interesting actually is the space and the media as a result of this, is that an all time low trust in the media is actually, i know time the, especially among young people. i think a lot of young people today, they don't get the news of that politics from b, b, c, or institutions like this. i'm not a small part. the reason why perhaps that politics is, is a bit better than what the bbc is putting out of the field of, of the, i'll stop you that more from the national campaigns coordinated with you, a revolutionary communist party after this break the

welcome back to going on the right and i'm still here with you a revolutionary communist by the national campaigns coordinator, fiona valley. a few and i should say about the grand fella disaster that you told me by the end about one of those companies that goes deny it. so they murdered anyone, and that it was all a terrible accident. people gonna look into the greenville that fire if the, if they went into the shows we did on on rumble the, the inquiry actually is not a legally binding. as far as i understand that even, but we'll get to your optimism for the future, more of your optimism. but there is, of course, as nature war on russia through ukraine. is it virtually impossible in britain now to oppose the u. k. u. s. a. u weapon reporting into ukraine for this war. and is it possible a tool to say when one's p store so negotiations or any kind of settlement the

worst? think 1st of all, it some pull in to highlight well, actually is going on in regards to ukraine because we should say, i mean stall my, his promise, 3000000000 pounds a year to the crane. he said, for as long as it takes, am i thinking the budget they budgeted 3000000000 pounds, the crate up to twenty's the see. on top of that, i think the well darn close to ukraine person has underwritten them. right. so if you can comp paid them back, britson is liable. all of this money, billions and billions, who voted for this verse 6 about whilst at the same time, stop on the labor and the name of politics, attacking punches, and the when to fuel allowance. they refused to scrap the to child benefit cap, the committing to spending billions and billions for this he claim, just to defend spending in general, things like tried and this is a government rule and who voted for that. and he knows about that. really trudy,

how far was not in the consciousness of people in britain, people know that suffering has taken place in the crate. i'm preaching has been all of this kind of stuff. but that completely, i think, unaware the reality of, of what is taking place because it's called it up to propaganda during various other things. so it's important to, to highlight this and i would say to, to broaden it out and link it to the general militarism that the government actually promotes, but isn't honest about all around the world. and that's why, you know, what i'm interested in is, you know, we're going to run a campaign called books, not phones. we are opposed to this ministers and this government of war. yes, 3 made so against 1st. why, why is this happening? i think we've got to make people aware of it. i'm be honest, it, it is true that the culture of criticism against the government has become very, very intent besides the pays. i mean, if you take, the policy started amazement,

even any distorted way. how stormy responded to the far right, right. it's right. it's a fascist dogs committing violence against people in this on a mass scale. so what starter is doing is say, if you criticize akiko against this government, we will lock you up. we will have you arrested. and i think the reason that storm has been so quick to do that is because i think to some degree he is aware that there is a d r and that exist in person. if you talk to anyone about their opinion about the government, it's not going to be positive. and in fact, i would say the government assisting on a on a pallet. okay. that is waiting to expose and it could go in many, many different directions. but there's a deep, i'm good that is because of usable star, t inequality watching live in standards, hypocrisy of the highest order from the british government. and the i'm the, is what they're trying to contain. they'll contain it in any different political

say that they time. what they've done to the far they also do to the left, i'm sure of it, whether you're speaking out against the war and ukraine and palestine or anything else. of course, those in these riley bankrolled, the cabinets of the british government would say, well, they did get a mandate, and they weren't explicit that they wanted to support lensky before the election. i know they got few of votes and jeremy colby knew actually last. when he was the leader of the labor philosophy. i mean, give us a sense of that support for ukraine because we saw flags everywhere across the country. the we your vision song contest for ukraine, celebrating it despite you know, at the same time on social media, people could see the far right banners. it'd be as a fatality of the new crane people tired of it or is the media deliberately not covering it? hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have now being killed. i would say that, i think in the recent period and the recent general election,

i don't think you crane was a major feature. i think the major political issues of the general election, palestine with garza inequality and a starchy in may. it is true of course, ordinary people. most people of course assume that that's a and don't want to see the suffering that ukrainians are experiencing. of course, that is the case and i'm sure most people that you would speak to with would say that i would agree with that. however, i think people also a style and to see the what you read in the news and well, the bbc reports. but the cardboard of these different institutions is not necessarily the truth. i can't remember who said that the truth is the 1st casualty of war. and you've got to take every think you need with with a grain of salt. and so it hasn't been, i would say in the short time,

the most dominant feature, but i think as the money continues to slo, while still stairs he continues to float, tougher and tougher questions will have to be off to stomach the who, what else? these questions, i'm not sure in terms of the british government as a whole because the tories had a very clear support and sending money as much as possible. i say that opposition is more likely to come from outside of the british parliament in terms of the 16 m . p. 's and the system policies perhaps in november. your us elections. i mean, i'm not asking for, you know, international but gays, like the spanish civil war to do save the don't yet, people's republican nice and ukraine or to volunteer to help the children of gaza. but why? a cultural figures in britain so silent? what are the novelists, right? as composes, musicians, pop musicians, artists, what, what, what is up with them? i mean, you know, certainly on ukraine, there has been some on guys though. they're not protect the physically in the music

industry. on ukraine. all i've seen is a british musical figure has an autistic figure supporting the nature of war and russia through great. a good example is your wants is who i know, you know, and we know on this, right? yeah, i think that's an interesting question. um, i mean, i think thought perhaps because what is happening in palestine, it comes across a so extreme to so many people. it feels as though the british government and the british media has really have to go into overdrive to try and justify it and try and explain it, which can push people in the opposite direction. and by comparison in, in, in ukraine it's been less intense. but i think we should, we should also wait and see. i mean, as you said, you could also talk about the complete destination at the off in person in general

. anyway, right? the best ok is all that is truthful on all the tells the truth and but in order to create a unique resources and actually the resources, the box is getting tougher and tougher to come across for any musician play, right? novelist or something or other, but it's a piece of, of web the next all well is i called i called about the we unfortunately below or was this that she worked for him. i 6 towards the end as, as we, as we know, i mean, in the absence of any mass working process. moving to then, what about how the global south and the brakes and emerging economies can somehow help reinvigorate political space in the old, colonial imperial power written given you paint such a di, picture of a country at ribbon by and security and incompetence ended in quality. the 1st thing this leads to an important question because when we looked at far as

that taking place in different parts of the world or think about okay, what can i do here in britain? what can we do about what's, what's going on? and i'd say 1st and foremost, the most important thing if you live in an imperious country, is to do as much to come to fight your ryan imperialist thought. is your main target. my main, you know, political goal is to do what i can to stop the british imperialism and british in bozeman, whether it's in oppression, overseas or oppression. and with the knowledge that if rather than a capitalist state running road all over the world and at home, you had in fact, a luck of state that was actually flying in the interest of the work is more people actually want in need me with that start to solve the problems at home, but also gleefully right? if you had a state that genuinely wanted to fight in the interest of the protest,

indians or someone else or any other oppress carpentry wherever it is or press peoples. that is what you have to fight for. yeah. but in the absence of that kind of breaks health to those people in britain trying to trying to change britain much is a c. i, a cuts out strive to help us imperialism in developing world countries. my main message and tool is the people, the working costs of every single individual country should have confidence in itself as a cloth of a. and it's most important allies all the work because of other countries. those other people with the most capabilities actually to try and help and other people or another, or, or another country. that is my message. we're trying to appeal to the best in nature of all the talk to these countries as the way to solve the problems of the world. i think the only way forward will be through the mass movement of luck as

themselves. i think clause independence is extremely important. and in this, in the struggle, i mean, you take the palestinians, for example. and the situation in palestine has remained the same as remain desperate for a long time, despite different governments and different regimes paying lip service to the cause of the palestinians for a long time. it will require the material intervention of the masses of the wall, cuz i would say of neighboring countries themselves. that is where i see the solution not in appealing to the, the government's or stand on weapon and weapon sales. just finally then we, you mentioned sarah wilkinson, i mentioned to the journalist who was detained and is being persecuted right now. was going to happen to you in the u. k. she's, she's of, goes in, in britain as you become more successful. and there's those people that unites under the scores that you have in the incompetence just on the pile of that nature, regardless of the, of the capitalist message,

what do you expect is going to happen to you as you do best as well. i mean, it's hard to say, i think if i'm doing my job correctly, i probably wouldn't be welcome to the research. just stop richmond institutions by any means. but i think it doesn't really matter what happens to me as an individual necessarily. what's much more important is the growing organization of amazement against not any one individual anyone policy, but the system as a whole, which is capitalism, which is responsible for the clock down on democratic rights to inequality, which is being promoted all over the world. the best way i would say to fight against repression will the possibility of someone being rest or anything else is to make sure the one you have conveyed and communicated your ideas as policy and effectively as possible that they can be taken on and understood. i'm

grown by as many other people as possible that way you can arrest someone, you caught stop amusement. you come stop. an idea once is rich, the minds of the masses. and that is what we're striving to do every single day. say whatever happens to me as long as there's others out there, which i'm sure there will be given how di the situation is they called stop us feeling it. all right, thank you. thank you. a massive with a show of continued condolences to those bereaved by you k u. s. you und genocide here in the middle east will be back on monday when will speak to the founder and director of the switch institute for peace and energy research. daniel against noon for his book, nato's secret armies. operation flavio and terrorism in the west and europe, and he'll then keep in touch. why will i social media if it's not sensitive neil country and add to our channel going, undergoing tv on normal dot com to watch new and old episodes off going on the

grand scheme of the after a week and a half, the adf withdrawals from the westbank city of janine, following one of the territories longest, deadliest raids in decades really forces deployed massive military reinforcements leading to a full siege of a city. and the camp faced stormed residential buildings destroying many apartments and homes, enforcing hundreds of palestinian families to flee. i missed the sound of the soldier's gun, fire. the details of a 3 year investigation into the catastrophic us collide for gallus down our to the things on monday, outside of the american weapons land buying the bure across the site. the agent

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