you should be severely punished and especially mother, he cannot go on living as if nothing happened. even these many years have passed without anything. this is a, this is a slave in the history of folks of kind of the, in the old phrase countries although, so call them century, they are too forgiving for such crimes. and a monk, the biggest corporate source of nazi germany, where the trades i, i have to repeat hundreds of thousands of jews and other big themes for them out by as well, fitness as who are well trained. and you know, the famous photo of times they shouldn't or the head of the assess, i'm viewing the school to feel great in this stuff. and as, as they were the worst mil doris, they've no mercy. no 2 young people about 2 babies. not 2 old people, let them be dried and jobs and their names sort of, you know, not tomorrow when they die. now, this mean it's like you so much for speaking to us today. i really appreciate your

time. we've been talking to professor gideon, dr. historian of the holocaust period, also as consultant. many thanks. thank you too and thank you for joining us. say on the international for more details on the story and everything else. you can visit our website all the dot com. we will be back of course of the top of the out with the, the chess willis. i was the, nobody's telling me that the human was part of this was the 4 digits of yellow, but i thought you still there about some of the, from the so within the what it says, this woman hides her face and identity because of the nature of her job

which she's been working for almost a year and a team gathering evidence on the existence of sync with us lives in ukraine. the russian interior ministry suspects that we use to test biological weapons for the 1st step is that then they saying that she's the real quick. it was say, we shift anybody on the have to escalate to expedite didn't exceed the shape. what the, he and the she was up before the ukraine. you know me, rejoices them stuff, trying to remove all materials and documents but they filed the only thing that i needed to send the record is not available to choose between users to it looks like the card that you go to cause of whom in a number of weeks approval, he wouldn't go to court discrete, just go i see a doing in the event of the investigators found evidence of operations with deadly

viruses and paper with a test on a named patients. it's on known how many similar centers of being established in ukraine over the past 8 years. the russian ministry found signs of them in almost all liberated major settlements from which they don't see any thought in these for the category of some chatty shooting. the show screw wallace tab. suppose so we need to so that we originally called to see what your book as anya, still pushing chest that we were needing to speak to a fund that we missed each one of this month. sure. what are some your to be with the one of us that on they submit it to like oaks on a many people around the world are trying to find the answers to the question. created this network of bio weapons factories. ukraine has a biological research facilities for how long and where has it operated and how many deaths? is it responsible for

the, here's my level home. come on, let me show you, show you around. hard to believe. but 20 years ago, this man, proud of his route guns, was a top international generalist, a former military officer. he came to georgia in 1991 on business and ended up as the adviser to president me file stuff is really entering george's top echelons of power versus recall. john persimmon, it's called carol. okay, i think in russian in georgia, jeffrey silverman,

his career, flourished until the 2011 when he saw a story on georgia and tv about a new us biological lab. open 70 kilometers from to b. c. individual galaxy of come to the new the losers as well. but if i just give us a phone really said i will do it when you've gotten the upstairs now is the am stupid and most of the novelty as an allow me to golf course. and the editor of the little girl, the silverman sit down to find out what the bar to is out to is very 1st findings shots him right behind me. there's a village near the airport for the workers, for the repository, used to working with the military barracks and people were getting sick all the time. there is a thursday or from the lab. were living here for got sick to died. but what did

they dialed? oh, they should food poisoning. oh yes, but they were there and the phone was coming out of their mouth silver moonlight to learn that these experiments were ordered by military authorities in washington. i used to work with people my university that had connections with the lab. one was on the ministry of economic development, they were telling me how this project started, the u. s. navy fracture cruise, the logical labs, when silverman discovered who was behind the lab, ended secret experiments at over the cause many casualties, the public, they called for an immediate end to military agreements between georgia and the us . this program was not a agreement between georgia and the united states. it was there was one sided in position that they should do. this was like because

shortly off to these statements for major us and european use agencies stop working with silverman and president suckers release administration. site to him as well. i work some articles, i publish them and local media. i gave interviews to georgia newspapers. and actually everybody jumped on me, the embassy wrote, and their reports and press releases as the silverman is not to be trusting the nasa to the truthfulness of his information is in question. despite the backlash, he continued investigating those who didn't want the us journalist to go public with his discoveries. we entered soon enough as a result of this, i've been kidnapped off the street.

and if you look at the lower level is basically the crown, the flagship, the crown 0 of a network of laboratories in smaller lives and our mania as you be john center, asia, africa was that email. a local revealed wall is concealed behind the high walls of the bios center, which i shared 3. i don't know, my bush has to be closer to the bus. the philippine chung, the many of these you are the youngest is getting most of the the up. it was easy. reading the result the sooner the better with the moisture, the updates. i'm a little going to get in the new are just going. chelsea way i said something to do sure, i will get those ship. i agree to family or change the center really

busy schedules. the us journalist, special christmas swami. as low as an investigation into pen to go into the bar trays around the world. she obtained sensational us government documents proving the existence of a network of bio labs and ukraine. similar to george's lucas center. the united states state department had a press release. that is no longer there, but we did archived this. it said that there were peaceful, biological laboratories in ukraine. to me, it's kind of strange that they put the words peaceful as this. they were trying to deny something. normally you do not expect normal biological laboratories to be not peaceful. the general is joan dubin visited one center. the board tree was very safe and a waste of storage. and basically they were both of trials on, on suspension,

launched an investigation the shortly all to the us government, once again denied it's the borrower to raise existed in ukraine. on march the 10th 2022 pentagon press secretary, john covey made a special statement on the matter. not developing bio logical or chemical weapons inside you crank is not avenue. now people were starting to realize how disingenuous and untruthful the united states has been with a lot of these vile, the biological labs that have been in ukraine. they've been getting a lot of coverage there is. now i do have one eye witness account. there was a laboratory, a biological laboratories, maybe a car to you've. you remember i told you that i have a whistle blower in car keys. and this whistle blower is the one that gave me

a bunch of documents. it's interesting that he sends me this document here, institute of veterinary medicine of the national academy area. the academy of agrarian sciences, donor department of defense of the united states, of america, beneficiary, the state committee of a veterinary medicine of ukraine. the connection between the arrival of us bio lab specialist and bizarre breaks of diseases that have been sweeping ukraine is want journalism most curious about ok. and you can see the whole feel if it venue who are for 50.8 for the original location with such a full list of guns. good for was when use more. when a solution you hardly, i don't know where it's going to go live. it's no wasteful cheap, but please mom me, i'm moisten of a consider this should can not stumble dogs, w e m y, this young lady at the district. did i start with the one?

uh, but it is all uh special or giving you a new must say, put on the login, but the stone you walk across belong to got this from the new to be snap new money instead of going up my show today. so my cause i was still with a new one, which was the music that was your wife's and your cook book. i'm wishing that up here when you, when you will, but as also upsets local uh, do a little bit of pull up your, some of the villages professional. alexa decided to look into the weird strain that almost killed his child and hundreds of other idea. so residence, well since 2010 us scientists of being secretary experimenting as a former so the it as you play against the choose the way uh pick up shifting and get these dates and then you upload them both of them cushion on some of the put me in the position of the building, these people about authority. i'm not uh, in the split in front of us. i could do that. that's what the level could think is pushing a gulf this company. and i'm not,

i just key americans to so i just go up and switch them noise to put the bullet points of action. let me know when i should be responsive unless the 3 positions or the facility is currently the only one in ukraine, enjoying biosafety level 3 states as a fact corroborated by john doogan, who assisted like say, elbow's investigations. but he tells me that they are cleaning on their website and he sends me some documents here. and this document here, and he sends me the original links for them. you can see right here, ukrainian research and type like institute ok located this once in odessa. the donor department of defense, the united states, the beneficiary, the ministry of health of ukraine, forma, ukrainian intelligence office of us see the process of shows documents proving the existence of secret us army programs in which dangerous pathogens were handled. and

ukraine thought about origin for the tax still with me is just the is the agreement that goes to putting the stairs to him. i don't know. could i even coordinate with cry instagram, which is the kind of both of them was same. this context continues to their activities, was supervised by former ukrainian health minister leon us approved a name that is in the secret files of the ukrainian intelligence service. how can we need to, i guess, let me find you on google as me still stuff on the, so shop pma, or do they need this little yellow? suppose they use, i do use their dignity to come up, but i put in a ticket to clean as a says, then you have some time 8050. and so i'm gonna have to read the truly bone with the on the super own move to ukraine and 20. so i'd say in just a year before the crew data that she was actively involved in maple box, you live live, watch in you each atalla as you start to use simple cream. you might be

able to thomas nice indeed, which you list so yeah. because that has to be, to be sure to get this job the the mysteriously this u. s. citizen, virtually on noon in the country,

was appointed by the new authorities to a key post in the ministry of health. shortly optimize the pacific used to them. but i should think oceans who didn't know that the spelling of those or to us approaches to the service to produce, to hold on me cause that i'm not going to look beautiful enough that you know, levels of totally ok any that's fine. we on the support that was done to session, want me to come to credit score price, cuz danielle can use the sweet same to you. ready for them either when a buzz or i'll in what the news that shouldn't be able to use the club. but i pretty good to, to establish no credit union or serious course i use fiscal year should bill says to me, for the new york place or so just giving me the shooting for my supervisor with you on a super rulings activities as ukraine's health minister can be inferred from this

ledger to from robot pope, director of the pentagon, the t r a division fee also to expedite work on transferring ukrainian labs to the control of us specialist common stems to achieve our joint objective analysis of highly dangerous micro organisms under consolidation in a single repository of the shop, below or below, especially insidiousness humor for, and probably a new and crime schemes to give me income. but again, i'm going to be honest with you much to cream, and you could see if you would use these kind of thing at some of the periods. and many of you are very similar from fish, give us cabala for the edge. come, what i mean, you can skip, i mean this, the total slope is this, the so you can good awesome, cuz to, for just keep up with me. i must keep seeing that my a bumble dyslexia. let me stop again. let me think about again, here's why me didn't though i, it isn't the see if they change them as to what you're saying. yeah,

well you my review of them supposed to shop. but if i'm going to go out there was the front of mind that somebody's the nick will use you, is the coolest illness boys, old laugh. and i'm going to no brain here because i'm a, i guess the for machine. you also the data, the worst company at the blue up it can do much. can we show fox cut them? but almost the front of mind. street, the window as that goes, don't keep bugging around a knock out. well, more difficult to use that on us. so i'm get a lot the court order, but i get, i want to show a center for controls of the blue. i didn't receive the see or the phone and get it and the fish i get a that's kind of great. new upset. i was no great here. got cut off, but i good. now, i mean, chief, the selected as a new mazda, the police, put the resilience, going to go on a franciscan detailed office, but there was a leading up in the going off with all appointments to see is on buying in the some of the companies in less than 3 years, almost all of ukraine's main to biological research station. this came under the

pentagon, run the agencies control company id cards to be honest, approved at this point, i should be assuming he's the one is the agreement news venue. let me look at, i'm still just professor pulling up juvenile abuto early to do to move kind of products a, give me a science at the bottom of the guns. the so you're sort of for me to do that 5 bit chinese view. simplest regina, most of lucy, your teeth, and this includes these 3 has not completed the test itself. they gave me a little bit of computers in your mouth, look across the board of the book and be able to use go to know with g, but the name is puts on the lowest pretty, but i'll definitely do the goose a lot. but what are some of these just lum boozy? what was the fix it on us because you show customers didn't make full shift because part of the sites still to me judging my name was encouraging to me. they kind of thought. so i thought about 50 gunther, so you know, there's not a for me to keep it, that's what i'm supposed to do. i will,

we need to shop the patients. we have done that, but i'm sold a lot of beautiful just the shows that the nation us again side to the for the most of just and you're going to shop. well, you mean fieldstone a say the only starter for me to get them could be up now. the billing is just gimme a little bit of the music just above assignment cadets use of for the head of what you meant by that. so sure. i did it to the computer of your took across what the city of the one you city where you may be able to stop in and show it to them for being a flight also you sure sort of can we can go they could. um, you mean up to doc? so usually most us to wayne up liam when she bit off. that's got a medium pony. but don't put any more than you pursue snail. chest able to boat, you at the end of some sort. and it said you may have to out of school, get points k in got that us k army age at the bottom. is any monies?

or is it a book you'd be able to use collateral? usually these put the name, you will not clearly explain us, which caused by army. you let us these, we can get to the setup both and lots of. then we are the simple 3 to start. team calculation is what a little bit onto the g. i will on people's gotten as long as they look, they all just go out of a visual pro. i think it's more truth and it will put them not necessarily management in the late 19 thirty's. the jump in these ami occupied hobbins on tokyo as old as a secret sense. it was opened to is such a new type of weapon deadly viruses for use against china on the soviet union. the desk went by weapons with tested on humans, was code named unit 731. so as i say this is dyllis. it is a facility on the measurements fluid measure. lucio and yes. louis that are still

at the move, the west that actually creates a large i need to be loaded, surely in yet or understood when you're blocking it. the natalie a listener, witness the terrible experiments. the japanese military performed on civilians and occupied china during world war 2. the recording, those horrible events is not easy for her know of any of that discounts? few survivors, the when the board dre the get an overlay. shes maternity, it was do a 7. she remembers black smoke billowing from the chimney above the building day and night. they incinerated victim, so it died during the run this experiments think of a similar up. so what i'll do,

i do, i guess there's a d, a show to a store where you 1st of all of the shows you got it efficient material. the museum exhibits reminded her again of those terrible moments from her childhood and of the fear of becoming one of the test subjects, the japanese scientists selected from the local population. that was the issue of because of the level of video and they need a medium in the lift beach clearly as cook with the values you. that as it is an angel, what is what they got some interesting thoughts to share an interesting sure. through just a whole book of mine. yeah. or middle kirkland cement mill at the pool. it's not the smart date here. so the days couple days, so i'm not sure yet they, but it should come through pretty really, really easy for me to just mute this then you because you what you do this needs to be just stealing states and if you're doing good. so if you keep the noodles keep speech is loss of use and you go to japanese. scientists working under general

shield ro, issues combined, worked out how microscopic viruses could become weapons of mass destruction behind unit 7. 3 one's bob, while they created, posted in bones filled with infected insects, capable of spreading fatal disease to thousands of people of their own level. mobile is typically on level, i'm with uh, a girl. no, it doesn't matter what the kids will move. it goes to the ball, most of somebody believes you unless you get the chance to get to them. in a short and many trauma tubes of the, at the demick spread unit 731 scientists disposed infected insects over chinese cities. one of these experiments killed more than 3000 people, is ation provence. before world war 2, there was a military unit,

and it was led by the scientists called is she. and the, in the course of their research base figured out how to use a flea or sometimes a different kind of insect as a delivery mechanism. and they could infect the insect or a fleet with a kind of virus or a bacteria. and it could be done delivered to head out a large area of to japan surrender unit $73.00 one's don't. is in general, issue liberal to the united states where they collaborated with former german military. don't us who had carried out similar research on known c concentration come prisoners. we know that the us government definitely we received this technology from imperial japan, in exchange for letting these scientists go and not trained them for their war

crimes. and the reason, of course, these biological laboratories appeared is because they wanted to sabotage socialist or communist, basically any country that did not tow the line for their imperial conquests. the war criminals knew home was the secrets, us only biological weapons center at fort detrick's, maryland. for newtonics at the summer, speaking of the view, go to the front of the study and literally on the she shoved you got the most can be always on the list. i fits there. person is kind of where i'm the collaboration between the us army and killer scientists. according to chinese journal, this would produce results less than 5 years after the end of world war 2. during the 1950 korean war, the radio

message date is february. the 22nd 1952 from china sing was state news agency, as our frontline correspondent reported from january 28th to february the 17th. the us address us warplanes systematically dispos stove, a korea one or 2 positions and in the rear large quantities of bacteria and various poisonous insects. on january, the 28th, southeast of ancient enemy aircraft dispos, 3 species of insects never before observed on the korean peninsula. but to me, if it's are no wonder, see new stuff here. i need it because the that those trying to think of my team that i'm going to port, how does that i'm with you please was still in the company in your companions and village square. it was in north south that's coming for us to the virtual college to no, no we should include which is do you need from us? you know, most of these just the seduce, the digits and scrubs for for the new f as is coming in from today. on obviously

you might on, if someone physical us up to multiple, originally calling this for them to complete the vision for time. the gentleman journalist on this road, this started for districts history, and the experiments carried out by the specialist in guatemala, having us, uh, d. i live on an annual board image there for this, behind of understaffed. on the next 10 minutes, you visit us in vickers. that's about us thing and due to us are from next on to a game of the the, what is part of is it that the employee would post good isn't the deepest view of us in that in the word part? is it something deeper, more complex might be present there? let's stop without cases. let's go out of it

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washington accuse is all t of sewing this gold and the vision rushes deputy and voice of the u. wednesdays. the allegation stem from fear over this tunnel and global viewership and it's refusal to, to the main stream. there's the current us administration is absolutely not interested in americans having access to any alternative point of view. since archie is still a very popular channel in the us and around the world, washington is trying to direct it to anger, specifically at r, t and other russian news agencies that are trying to convey the truth. we take a deep dive into the rims of so called russian. this information case is in the west. the west has. it's been all too willing to allege we did as oscar, who benefits from the.