bloodshed on its own territory, your brain volunteered to be the scene of the class of major, do a political golf trans, but how much longer is the west ready to a well off and pay for the sacrifice? well, to discuss that i'm now in joined by as the son of a retired major general in the indian army. darrow is great to see your again, thank you very much for your time. i'm speaking to you and your us now is this 3rd time we are discussing the conflict in ukraine and legally you observed that there has been a subtle, he has no toward the change in both the rhetoric and the dynamics on the battlefield. let's start with the letter. you say that it's more a war of attrition at this point than anything else. can you expand on that? let's see, let me give a bunk. that's good. that earlier than the water started the obvious back. that time initially in this special ministry operation, i'm going over the water for the most taken into account in a manner that's

a deep of gift to any. you claim that if you lost the laws that you claim had been very strong, defensive against on boss. and if you try to be objective, then perhaps i be of the defenses of would it be done that as it let it immediately, but to explain it the most simple language i would say that they will have to do before they go. so that will sources from people on board to the gym to be able to feel that even as a product you and that's why those little words were bigger. but as we did it, that was one that was uh, sudley. uh we had uh, had a life for what a simple reason. uh because then you'll get them to baird videos and they don't want a fair. in that case context, it pepboys, it flew up on that to you and ronald casualties at the same dining talk of him because you have a lot of infantry. so you were one of those the of bears up areas. and therefore,

it was thought that the must of why oh, why would it defense late to be there before that i'm going to go to that from the label over that kid above give for that one. the other side. same is that you have to be careful one, so that it became a viable and a strong defense lane performing for the fine 10 year old when you're talking about day you are talking about the russian leadership, the russian military leadership. right? yeah, that's right. so this was, this is all the same. oh, but it's just split up. and therefore once the volume bid off, there was that once you are the, that's you, i the library defense lane. and then you're going to do with your schedule receive . and then you're going to slowly, i don't can be, i should've a lot of here to present. why don't you know if there's a little bit of you and mafia on back of all of this in the manner that you have some video review of the, of the sources at the list of be conflict. and there you was

a lot of casualties animal. so you would have been in this area in of they've got it was much smaller, much smaller where, but a lot of edition closed. well let me, let me ask you about that. because typically when belligerence pursue a war of attrition, they tend to go all out in terms of causing the damage. and i'm not sure this is exactly what we are seeing on either the russian or the ukrainian side. i have an impression that both sides need to pretend or need to show that the war effort goes on that you know, they're making gains without actually putting a lot of resources into that or without actually even. um, trying to hold onto those gains. um, what's underneath the san, what sluggish or undecided war of attrition? uh, as of now you said one casualties. both sides are looking at least 10 buffer that's . that's done. that's by them is i have the stand over best buy goals and the less

of the one debt. and therefore, what does that mean? is that the will, this of the all positions becomes really good floor? and that is what we saw when the later part of the, you know, it is only last month that but at this present one for them to do some extra and uh was uh, uh, i'm frozen uh by uh, pretty cool, actually. good. but that gives us or dimensions uh into the coast. go to the gym. uh, that's that, that goes one. but then there again, there perhaps you'll claim as a thing that it's front lighting as it becomes slightly difficult for the deeper duration. uh, at the same time involve a 2 day work or she in at the gym from done boss that does not happen. can i ask you specifically about the ukrainian incursion into mainland russian because we seem various estimates. so how significant or insignificant it is on the one hand territorially, it seems to rather impressive around 1300 square kilometers. but on the other side,

russians seem to be very truly about it. they evacuated population from those areas and they're not putting a lot of resources into the quote unquote liberating it. how do you understand the rationale of those maneuvers on both sides, feet from the ship point of view? i think it makes sense that you did this on the dunbar for the gym and compared to the on the bus because they are very close to a my phone calls. so if they did that, then the consolidation of done by region would become easier to be just one of them off, but i still feel that is uh, will be able to, they worked at any of the phones this one day. uh them, not that i book and then be open, save and equal squeezen. so apparently what really happened is that the movie that the renters are about to go, let's do 2 months as a visualize, this will get the body of both of these them and uh, i confronted it more on the gone by the gym. i did often most of it was i didn't

that the resolution of ukrainians from the, from the, from the where the, me, well, you probably have to be easy because because of the left, apparently you greenville a problem of the men bought in men. fight is the most feel of the because between the 2 sides of their shows what the 3 days the men bottle for you. clean and the pain depend body is also a more know best skin supply in the us. let not ogen supply all kinds of ministry, hardware and software. but then the fact is, who's going to supply the people in the world to fight doing wrong so, so that is what it didn't dawn that guides so frequently as i, as a, we do like, especially since uh, as far as i understand the russian uh, thinking and they have absolutely no doubt that they will be able to retake those uh russian territories back from from the ukrainians. do you think there is any sort of any scenario in which ukraine can actually hold on to the land that it,

it is currently occupying in, in restaurant within one once. you cannot move the kind of defenses retarded blackboard on a gift. be going to fancy? well hope professional um, uh, if you were to call you in for the russians or don't for whatever they have dep toured any will cut in the most about 6 to 8 months to create a library defense lane on the home side of the bath as well as creating the minefield entered into the lane of my village. thank you. as odd, delta dental nichol stipulated. but what i, what it gives me, i mean its bang uh, getting info or category is, is easy, but it big staple. very defensive, the logistics and uh to be able to pull that the area. uh so apparently uh the rest. yeah. hes under the same on the website. but you know, man of that, if they can do the mean these data mantle just because that they must get done

bozza or they've been flooded over and gone by school premium is well established and visually without anything to do. i think that she has that the least mainly focused as well as your maintenance concern of it because they thought that they could flip some development in the amount of it get the letter i used to give them or is that the best deal? i love the equity. no, absolutely. for all the ones that has all, apparently there was that going to put you on the website? where did you pointed out the recently the western narrative has shifted from putting must lose to newton los northwind. while the commitments to ukraine have been refrained from, we will support the ukraine as long as that it takes to a less generous, as long as we can. uh, what do you think this uh, supple uh, shift through flats. uh seed be shipped to be brought by circumstances. if you

would have called. oh, then back 8. oh $61000000000.00 was of the stuck. uh when the congress that thing. uh your bedroom started thing. i very used to say very simple. do you agree and as long as they fix? and then when it got stuck, they started saying beautiful ford as long as we can, as it is also related to be kind of manufacturing this, the investment that of us will do it. i shall hold. i got their defense production by 400 percent, the westport, i only by 20 percent. so that is less. that was one of the reasons. now, 2nd part of the deck, i mean they have, they used to simple thing must lose. uh, but now be able to realize that the machine that you don't lose, it's a very large country with the largest on the middle of nuclear weapons. so losing is all the question, assuming that me accordingly, the still very much in far as far as all of us, the leaders i'm concerned, everybody's are struggling to remain in bar. so that'll be coming out a little. but under most of the realistic but at the, um, uh, uh,

towards the situation on the now i also heard you say in another interview then by large russia has accomplished is goals and has a clear upper hand on the battlefield that in terms ofa me durham term or long term resourcing of this conflict, is it ultimately in russia's interest right now to a, for a permanent and settlement is a permanent and settlement and possible at this point, given that the west is so infatuated with the berry of deflection tactics. if usually you know, stripe some agreement, the only way to advise them them later. so does that make sense for russia to try to put an out official answer this conflict or keep it be this current low level to decide on this vehicle? possibly see what was the amount on what they have achieved. the sheer name was that up under degree and was that they must s the parental investment expansion of my bu. uh now whatever not to act to expand damage vendor to learned is uh,

is it them, uh ukraine. uh, i don't think it will get included in into michael. it's a question my bet that they do get included or not, but there is no more school to offend now as well as bothered to gleam over there. she was gonna turn them back in. was that uh they must get done, boss. they must have a better daughter. i the pool gave me a. uh so that uh there was a landlord or uh, if possible, the in plus was if they can drain up the process, the green delivery level 3, and as far as black fee is concerned. now as far as what the water is concerned, i think that a she has a, has done this with a lot of, but the question is, and i'll be the most offensive, and i don't us to be getting not being completely in there. and it may be pretty mature as of now from the military point of view, or to go for a piece negotiation. they can still active underground war, well, a bank of bargaining position. and they must get the, the, your opinions out of maybe and immediately off of that. so as of now they be

complete. the game is not that you be able to keep most of it. now if you look at the other side, the other side, uh, if it goes part of it was usually devereux, standard the it as simple as that. so therefore they will not like to lose it. uh then secondly, if the american am was uh, have you also mentioned in the community uh that the water was one. the last would be on the industry must prosper and uh, be an option in pleasurable down and but this young lady for month flew into europe and invest. you'd also get it reduced if that was a then billed like, don't want the, you know, the, what i do that i, the dentist will do that all day in or do you getting his word angel? is that a lot of you putting him standing? they won't, mike won't be moving it unless it becomes economical or becomes a be going to be informed the other thing. so in my opinion, both sides bought on it was huge and helpful and he did were getting flushed. i don't think that's good. i think ross as of now, well, generally we have to pick

a very short break right now, but we will be back to this conversation in a few moments. stay tuned. the hello and welcome to across the full board. here we discussed some real in the mm. no better place to be the village in the some those beautiful features. there's a purely anarchist in the sense that there are no authorities within the city. everyone is their own citizen. half the people are here because of them there was to go and the other half here because they loved the place and there's nowhere else they'd rather be than here. but i always are going to explain. you just have to experience labs. and by doing that, you have to live here though, this lab right here in lagrange this is one of the dining homes. it was a mess all for 0 soldiers to place. you know,

several 100 people have passed through here. either underway somewhere else or provide safe space to abuse women, to elderly people, to men, to the people, to addicts, to children. you know, some cardboard checks, you know, but the cardboard shack is broke up for you. if you just been sleeping on the dirt . what are the basic rules, isn't sylvia. and if you ground, they'll find out the welcome back to was a part with as b, a span that a retired major general in the indian army general before the break. you mentioned

the issue of major, which is still the biggest allison thing, the room. so to say i'm president puts in a sub in several of these interviews. the he's american counterparts. american presidents can come and go, they can say whatever they want to. but the us post curve is a foreign countries, including russia, is determined by other forces. like, for example, the military industrial complex which relies on conflicts. okay, is that smells goes you. if the relies on conflicts, wars of choice to sustain itself, the one that strategy that the nato's expansive has been pursued by large for 30 years now by every single american president. since bill clinton, do you think the cranium conflict will be enough? if not to reverse and done it please, the nose plans on 2nd thoughts in the minds of american leaders as to how effective

that is. because clearly that strategy didn't work through the rush. i may have worked with other smaller countries with lesser military, but it hasn't worked out with russia. oh yes. i agree that uh they have fish problems with us. yeah. as what is this the study is concerned, but david is going to be new pro, lifting it. because uh, as far as us is concerned, the deep state that is beyond the industry. that was the shock. and what items industry to flourish, the laws must happen and you want it a lot more to happen. the person wants to be mean because it is the threat, which will says the, you, it'll be a good is to buy american equipment. uh, similarly uh, why after the data spending, if they say that it is a defensive, uh, but this is a defensive organization and that will, uh then uh, the reason is why they have to spend is uh, the more of the number of countries in not go more out of the,

the buyers of that on the industry for that investors are going to change. and that is the reason why what we call s 111.0 for 3. unless you add us it, which would have that uh, with the uh, the end of the 2nd order on it as being, it does one, do you new? unplug the new 2 o'clock and uh, i dont visualize that. this is still going to go down as what is uh, usa is going to, uh, as well as the other area. is that a concern? they have also started all the work move on to the, the china and did also uh there is a good or degree or does. uh, as there is uh, there are a number of countries. uh, which uh, also fees. uh, the chinese ignition uh is uh the info benefit of those countries. again, uh, i don't know like you onto this on the street and feel farms now uh, selling arms and fighting and actual war. uh, 2 different things. and i'm sure you know that the rest of the military doctrine

stays pretty clearly about if russia starts losing in the conventional war. it in towns to use tactical nuclear weapons 1st. and then if it's survival as a silver and state is threatened, it has the strategic nuclear weapons to rely on. and this is not just a declaration or strategy. moscow has invested diligently invested in more denies and it's nuclear potential, based on that fact. or i don't understand why would the rest of the feed or even deliberate weakening be in anyone's interest. what does that create the much larger problem for the us military industrial complex because it can produce arms. but if not quite sure, i am and please not quite clear and that it can actually slide wars, major wars with its own soldiers, with its own military person, out of the gums of smart enough that the devil stop before a new creat. i seem to start. uh so therefore uh, what they are trying to do is,

uh you see the conflict. uh it says you and you put in maybe the bedrooms wrong. uh there is a long that's the water between the restaurant and you'll get in contact under big water. but the bigger the water, the longer did not want that water between the us leg, not the address you originally put on there, the domain uh, particular domain or diploma. i did go in and the uh, cyber domain and information on here domain. now these are the goals, which there is i don't want to continue to fight. so basically, you did not play, but if they just cleared it up at the sure beautiful some of these countries listening physically for us to buy this euro is a, has one point. why is there that it was didn't, let's do this on that then. uh it would be a little for us here only because they have not prepared themselves or been oh, but a couple things you have that or full for the battery or dividers. yeah. uh as far as the information was made is one time. and that is why that it was due to

a certain amount of decision making by us it. so this is the kind of situation which, but as many companies in being booked as of it was the word fees. and that is verified apps. uh, they would be able to, uh, sell that off the spelling of the escalation that and escalation dynamics in a manner that does not go into a new plan. i hope also the new clinic in between usa and us. yeah. mm hm. now you mentioned your old friend, uh it is pretty the old areas that these conflicts gaming to be being because of the very divergent views on the security architecture in europe. and those agreements are still smoldering. there's very little trade or diplomatic activity between the russian western europe, but they are still neighbors. how do you envisage them living side by side and the day keeps to call and will it be more like india and pakistan or something else? the you going to, as me was so neighbors, little bit of india and therefore both have to exist angle investigative, that's

a complection. now how do equally exist? uh so as what, as of what day did you like it is as what is gonna show you what open concern the packers this actually, what do you want as it even that it is then the one is on the she comes out as a be uh you don't things that are still buying unless you know, it may not be directly working directly. uh, did i feel or not the i think it was used for long as she has that as well. is there as long you don't need to go. this was this uh, this partnership, this part, but she didn't all know the gauge as far as. but one thing we don't do certainly visualize that as part of, of the strategy. americans with mitchell and the ukrainians. and also a few of the family that unless approved, i shouldn't be the comes they have subsequently. uh they will make sure that there is some kind of insight in tea in the area as of on boss. add this into the mtv tv . and therefore in that context, you may find that day we are leaving the spot, this on the, the problem they're being brought to the water and we keep giving them warnings and

things of that something that you want to put them in place. but i'm understanding that that is the kind of relationship which we have leaving with maybe that it will give the proxy what i've been restored is also brought the looks the stand up for the relationship pick them up. but i think the drug will be also going to change the drug or the video games and also changing to some extent or the other. i don't visualize that be okay. and it will be exactly the same as it was earlier. and so it gets to be the relationship. now, this close, make these remarkable in many ways by the i thing, ukraine's willingness to endure all of that to most on the land. this amazing and the humongous and horrible. in many ways, bloodshed is free to striking into these de ukrainian officials proudly described the country as a testing ground for the most modern weapons, hoping perhaps the such a pitch would secure them and now support from abroad to me. and that's

a weird type of glory um, but do you seeing it's appealing enough to keep this one going? do you think the appetite of the military industrial, complex american, a western military industrial complex will run out at a certain point? is there a hope for that? i visualize that be meant by a problem of your glenville then all earlier then be min military industrial complex. that even is there to, in the industry of, on the left were led to sell as many weapons as they can. uh, the amount of images being given through your claim. everything is not here to do a whole lot of loans. i'm going to do that. you've been going to be that. so obviously there are some industries who would like to buy a certain the, the other state and boy, okay. man, perhaps both of them might have some kind of real estate as well. so that a lot of the interested in was uh, but as far as ukraine is concerned, uh perhaps you bring envelope or decide for themselves as to what they want to do.

uh, because uh, the other ones, what were last night doing and as far as the every day. oh uh, do you know this one has been done? i visualize that this upper date is where to go down. uh, utah pins. i have it as dr. lazy that they need to perhaps look at their invest flushed out soon as well. a number of countries are behaving in that manner. everybody is not on board. ahead of the uh, as far as the, uh, the industrial contractor is concerned to be able to do the cost benefit analysis, the debt a medical fees that they couldn't make any. and all of the out of getting the only we are losing don't. and it is to be in the big huge so then americans, we level combustion because if there is that is not beyond the money. sure. not a don't de la problem in south china sea. also in that there's also, there may be a conflict on the wheels the side or who are going on on the supporting the water to say, i didn't know if i may ask you one last question. as

a former military commander, you mentioned before that demand power is the is perhaps the issue that is going to decide the, the outcome of this conflict more than any type of weapon re. and we all assume that soldiers are ready to die for the countries. and does he have to be also whole, the, the, those sacrifices will be value and that then they would be worthwhile. and the people will not be thrown into, i mean, grind or for some unrealistic do a political initiative of some high minded individuals. now, when you look at the death toll on both sides, when you look at the rationale behind various maneuvers, when you look at the level of training that people undergo, what's, what's your take on that? how do you feel about it as somebody who i assume also have to, you know, be in charge of the face of many people. oh, see as far as be sort of do

a lot of concern. uh, i mean they're good as the administrator will fight for the country is always the subjects interest that bill beside they are including the uh, i mean of all the country. so we recently opened respect to everybody. uh, as far as the political game i was concerned. uh now a number of days. it just to happens that up order to go game of our country. uh or uh, the maybe of few leaders uh the was, will happen. and so what we have to be able to brand. uh so uh, a little bit of these, just the people in basel via the brand, obviously that your grievance, people, the kind of displacements we don't pick up the list of the kind of, uh, uh, and both sides. the last one that i should say, a number of casualties have taken place. so the, the water is a costly if you had one book. uh, as far as the, the dream demand part is going to and that is then,

is it going to be new positional? uh, because uh that is making a lot of difference. uh, you'll see uh, not book in an order to get an annual clean because if it does so, then as but i think on friday the 3rd word was to start. and denver, as you all would be inclined to use being a good option as well. that, that are, that are that i think would be a deadline. uh short of that the me allow them to use uh, long range weapons, etc, etc. but that, that doesn't change the dynamics of the problem is that the, uh, certainly the brand demand bought is important. the very thing is also important. and uh, as well as the, uh, the, what i was concerned a deck is also because the just lot of otherwise, uh, independence is, uh, is it deals with everybody. and that is wonderful if you have that 5 before. uh, but the problem is uh somebody else who does say that, ok, you can see that okay, i will. that thing was all the different numbers. yeah. but the lady is so much

worse dish to us and all that you will to bill, but then the other one plan you have to go and present it to not only the only parties, but also it will be a vision. also, the 25 being one's own entity. so these are the things which, but that's the a, you claim you as produce $115.00. what does that mean? if i do want that 8 was that otherwise? well, hopefully they, they will sooner or later fight for their own cause. this is the only thing that can actually solve this conflict the, please the, in my view, but we have to end up here. uh, thank you very much for being with us today. thank you. thank you. it was a pleasure talking to you a i'm thank you for watching hope this hearing young on was a part the,

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