the hello and welcome to cross bipolar design. peter lavelle, richard gate is back with a vengeance. the 3rd season of this delusion has premiered and viewing is mandatory also with russia again at the center of the current the election cycle. oh, is or should russia? we discuss these issues in more. i'm joined by my guess, jordan samuel in budapest, he's a pod cast with the capital which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri bob, which is deputy for an editor, uncomfortable sky, a problem that a week, or a gentleman crossed out girls in effect. and these can jump anytime you want that. i always appreciated. all right, let's. so now with george in budapest, the original original rush it gave originated in the around the 2016 election. we have the 2nd integration with the 2020 election. and now we have 2024. we have. we're actually gate 3 point. oh, um, i'm fully aware that we could split and par, sit and say 20182022 fine. but there are 3 major elements now in play.

and like i said, this 3rd season, his premiered viewership wasn't too great in the 1st 2 iterations. but i guess they filed the funds to continue with. joking aside, george, you're not surprised. this is happening, george? no, i'm not surprised to be to them because we were over is the expecting this and i was surprised that it was that he came as early as this. this is early september. and so one has to think that there are concerns about the harris campaign and its viability that they have to bring out the big guns facility is this, but this is the russian gate, or if it keeps the period gain of the game and the game that goes the original perpetrators and continuing, perpetrated, have never been published there being a help being held to account. still the same people keep coming forward with the same arguments as gives me a said many times before the, the so that's very,

very few russians in russia get and then you know, the way when we, we have it was 1st thrown at us about, oh, the russian it or is there is a feeling in the 2016 election and they want to get trump elected. and then, you know, the more we love with the more we found out that this was actually a deep state operation in order to discredit trump in order to set up a fake is within the trunk campaign. so just call the page and pull map report and the judge basketball players and, and, and then use that in order to destroy a trump. the something's very similar happens in rush. we get to what the did. we have the band a claim that the all t, as in following is huge amount of money to various don't give money to do, but i can send them in dollars, which is, you know, look, let's fix it. so not an insignificant so,

but i do do internet influence is but this is just simply a d o j clay. this is being a, this is the claim made by married garland. lisa monaco, um uh the, the f b i c i a, well the usual characters who are basically a searching this was the no evidence is presented and they like, you know, the proof of this is if they really wanted to present the case, the r t this listen for the supposedly malevolent the organization is engaged and that information will say, which is what they're saying. then indicted all to, you know, bring your case, which is, i haven't done that yet. it was very, you know, you know, they, they, they could to individuals, they know perfectly well and then we're going to have to, uh, the take. yeah. spend any time in court where they're outside of us, yours extra. it's never going to happen. but they're very careful not to do make the mistake the model i made. if you remember when he indicted the cocoa of

management, the cooperation is that once you start the cooperation cooperation can go in with the legal representative. now you have to put up or shut up, you have to present the case, of course. and while i put the president the case, so they move to dismiss the case. so something similar is happening get if you, if they really have the evidence of all to you was acting in this malevolent way wage and this information welfare against the united states. then brittany, okay, is bring your bring, bring your evidence of it happens. this is, i don't actually, i don't think it's good to go much further than this. the breaking news that we have a few days a just to make and it's a d, monique r t is banned in the united states. it's banned in the european union. i mean, hard to use the, the, a problem that they don't have to contend with as they define right, rushing media. and it's a potential influence. i mean, we also have the issue of it ran planes that around is influencing the, the, the, the campaign that there was this bizarre story about an assassination planned

possibly coming out of ran for. and then we have a real inflow alcohol or an influence like the apec and the is the israeli lobby base or nothing off of democratic candidates in primaries, but no, they have to circle back to russian. is it just because it's just something that reflexively people expect? i mean, given the pedigree of russia gate in 2016 in and in 2020 as well. you know, in groceries have a joke. a boss tells you subordinate the support as a says, i want to do the best way. and the boss says, don't do it the best way to do it the usual way, you know, good as it shouldn't be done, use it. so why in ran anything new, you know, uh, this is the 3rd the election which is dominated by and the steve or russian, natalie. and we have the same card with the same people. i mean, if uh,

these dollars from the new york times, but what, what is the prices for exposing the uh, between trump and russia great, they elect or compete despite the fact that the model are, you know, that prosecute that you remind you of him despite the fact that she specifically said there was no collusion these people, natalie jones at a price, you know, so why invest anything new? if you, you can do it with impunity again, you know, and if that's what the boss wants, you know, don't do it the best way to do it the usual way and how they do it. you know, let me quote a goober roches f, which means most the us and that's just a more sophisticated then it was the boss cycles. and then the warning was us intelligence i few show said want him to cock is a given just go well, be on the edge. what revealed by trusted spot, you know,

there is nothing here. the groups what basically shows that we don't know to show the drollest were just taken from the sea, and i'm so sorry. well, i don't think we ever will. i thought i'm not sure it's good to go any further. george and d moving get we, we keep going back to the dates of 2016, 2020, and 2024. told you the same dates where the democratic gum primary was wrecked. okay. there seems to be a very interesting parallel with democratic politics being rigged and brushing gate go ahead. that is absolutely right. event. this is, have been the 201620202024. this is the, the, the, the have a credit ring. the process and essentially cheated of the vote is out of any a real uh choice. um, but your once i have doing this time is attempting to discredit all of the trunk supports us and by implication of trump himself. so they've done this, you know,

and then go right away with this with some of these intellect influences that will vary right way, which they're not really. and they're all right, comfortable just which is a game or, you know, a mixed bag. and so by implication, they then want to suggest that the truck trump is somehow involved in all this, but why i was suggesting that they did that, then maybe this may be a deep state operation. is that 1st of all, there's a whole lot of money that is splashing around here. um and you and you have have to think if, if really the, you know, they, uh they, they suspect the rough rough shows and, well, they would have know very, very early on the rush. it was why when you have a great deal of money uh through the united states. but apparently this has been a, this has been going on um for a year. but also this is part of the modus operandi, which we knew from pressure gauge. um, and for both of those is originally it is of this with deep stayed operations. i mean, it just going back to russia gates

a 2 point. oh women. they use that. is that how that turn that around? is that the, this was the ult abiding laptop which is a s b i had since 2019. and then use that to go to the, the social media companies and say, oh, there's a russia operation that is own going. they are going to use you in order to interfere in the election of goes all this a while. we don't, we don't want to be thought of any russia operator. so there was, there was nothing in it. there was, it was, there was, there was a guy in delaware, the computer store owner will have the computer. he gave it to the f b. i roughly, they've been appear anywhere. and it was, it was the, the, the that if the intelligence ages occurred. yeah, just as that came up with the story that somehow russia was involved and that's and then because that met the more often to that letter assigned by 51 fuller intelligence officials, they've older. so slowly it locks a little russian. i the ration. i'm one to judge of the 51. they go assigned that

letter then with anthony blinking, which was leading the entire effort, i deem it ho, how russians react to this. i mean, a rush who really has an enormous simple and skilled from eric and politics. i mean, then having to vice and get elected in rustic and tubes. i don't know any sense at all in a rush, those get bored very, very quickly. you'll know that probably makes us different from, i don't know, some other nations because it's really boring. i mean, it doesn't sell in the media here. i mean, i would do those of stories every day. you know, a very different from a job that's how in the united states, the present off as being once in the election of this is an old story. i mean people have died. yeah. they were brother, read something about the stalls about mundane lives. you know? so, strangely, it's not the sort of story that is saying, well, you, uh,

but you know, there's one thing from the sleep all affairs about the rest of the people that told me, i think this story is going to be thorough because they have no facts. you know, and they both go absolutely wrong. what does he do? it can exist without facts. yeah. right. right. speaking of backs before we go to the break here. george, i sent you a link to last night and okay. everybody was from 0 head. so you don't get head, you bet. so if you want um, but you know, the office of the director of national intelligence claims and i looked at the document. i don't know if it's true or not. there's not, observe any foreign influence in the 2024. that's what's going on and the do by the administration here. i mean, the d o j makes this claim in the office that is actually supposed to be looking at this says the opposite. what do you make of it? and i think that's the thing. they have the script already written about the russian and this is, but they haven't, they haven't,

they actually managed to fill in the blanks. i mean, in that document they do bring up a t and the line influence of a t, even though at the beginning of this uh, this a report. they say that they have seen though is the phones of any of foreign abusive. it's a particularly a kind of causing awards on foreign um interference in the congress of the election. so it's how and what do they mean by the conduct of the election? i mean is, and so maybe they that because it may say there's no evidence anyone's interfering in the voting machines in the actual voting process. so it's a confusing um document. you can read it one way or another. so they bought it because they, even in the document, they do say that, well, these are really in very dangerous apps. you know, hard for the car is for a gentleman in the company and we're going to go to a quick break. and after that break, we'll continue on, especially on some really stay with not to

the russian states. never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send up the send. the $65.00 to $5.00 must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russia to day and supports the r t. suppose next, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the, the, the

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the creation of the task. ok. do you guys do you guys love us? is that possible with looking for so some people have more than enough storage air conditioning, whether it's a total on the 15. yeah. with the other stuff and they do see there that there's reason and they don't pay me in. yeah. mostly to visit that i've had or the the the welcome back across that bullhorn time peter, they'll hear we discuss some real news. let me go back to george in budapest,

there's a different angle to what's been going on, how russia is in the news, and that is something that president vladimir putin said and then he can on the conference. and he bought about stock. traditionally, let's go back to 2016. the epicenter of all of this, russian official them is basically been stand off base about their preferences, okay. you know, they'll deal with whoever is elected into the is and i'll be rated in january data on and get involved the internal affairs of another country. and we've heard this man from many times, but in this cycle, we heard something slightly different. and that, you know, the president was asked bill, you know, the support trump or, but i knew and, you know, we, we like predictability. we go with the democrats, which can be debated. okay. and sense of buying was crude by his own party, out of the primary we have to kamala harris. and he was asked about, do you support kamala or send, essentially paraphrasing yes. and he also made

a comment about her laugh. he did not use the word chuckle, laugh, go ahead, george. it would have to conclude that the pigeon was having fun at the expense of, um, americans who every 4 years are absolutely obsessed with the russian interference in the u. s. selections of who the russians prefer. to win, but it's a, it's a little surprised. maybe it's almost as surprising. i mean, the russians were clearly disappointed in trump. in 2016. i think they had great folks on him. they thought he was, somebody outside lives sort of the foreign policy establishment that they saw him as a business man or pregnant. this somebody who, who likes to make deals. and they saw somebody that he's just going to abandon the, the cold war obsessions a russell phone bet, and he'd be more interested in making deals. and we were disappointed. the truck

didn't have the the strength but didn't have the ability to overcome the resistance within the government to any improvements and russian relations. and as a result, the regulations really, really deteriorated drastically. during the trunk is of course they went on to terry drink on the bind them but not really so they make this kind of given off on trump, they have no real expectations that anything much will improve on the trunk. but what was surprising about clinton's comments by saying something terrible, he prefers the democrats, because the democrats are predictable in that. that's not really the history of the cold war. i mean, i don't think so. the good relations and the bad relation to the russia and the united states. well, the was precisely when the democrats were in tyler, then the relations were up. there was one another truman. but i mean, the, the cold war really kicked in. we have the berlin crisis, we have the war in korea,

and then it goes on the kennedy, united states and the soviet union over came to war over 2 bucks. yeah. and how the jimmy costs are again, very drastic. the declaration of the blank when the united states blake out the the, the moscow olympics. whereas on the republicans, those will take the heroes of. they told me in the 1st real they don't on the either how the spirit of camp david ever goes. the heyday of the told the on the nixon and then it goes, you have the, the reagan board, but you know, era of the believe $198.00 is. so it's strange for bolton, who are full, knows the csp, the suggest is how well that he prefers dealing with the democrats. that's not the district of but the kid, the way good is, goes for that. that's why in your team. i think that, um, this is kind of poking a new baby with the very popular phrase. don't poke the bear, but i mean, i don't know what the americans are, but they're being poked right now. and i think it's in the, in

a very kind of jocular way. i mean, like i said, if you're going to drag, i send you this selection again against our will. we'll comment on it. it's reverse psychology, i think. oh, i think so. who did was not joining, he was said to rise the situation because it seemed be funny. it's a sure it's dangerous, but it's also fine. and so uh, i mean, uh, the ideology of which is now guiding them. afraid budget is the 30 terrier. and this as it is predictable and what it does is make it good. so of course you understood that the democrats would expect him, you know, to support from the industrial. that would be a huge hold on for that, frankly, jet. and she didn't give them that, that bone, you know, if you pretend that was pretended to be, uh, before, uh, kind of effects again, uh the story about the sides of, uh,

russian american relations. uh, they're very much like super bowl statistics. you know, for the believers, they mean everything, you know, for the mobility was they don't mean anything. some people important for example, they say you can also get russia. they, they, uh, they partially be withdrawal on your trip to say, you know, on the democrats relations for bad, the problems that are there also are the cycles usually in the beginning or when your presidential term are always holds on both sides. so relations, but relatively good in the beginning of carpet ministration. right. you know, uh, honest reduction fee. just they were bad things out against the bulk of that impacts in moscow. they were the relatively good in the beginning of the oil, a bomb administrator. they were offered you the above, a demon on the why the, you know there was a gleam, so a whole good. remember that somebody in geneva. so a game by the also wanted to repeat the same directory and he repeated it by the

name is oscar. you know tragic weight. now the relation of said dangers get that. so yeah, i don't know if we'll have the zip beside your would you? it was not. it was north pole in the farm that's kind of i felt as personally, you know, but the tragedy is not in her. you know, the tragedy isn't that i the old you guys do my yeah. but all but also team a. i agree with the wouldn't principal, but george trump reported, but he is very offended by the gig of bodies endorsement. and i think that, given what you've just said, george is kind of returning the favor we had might be, we had some hopes for you, but you ended up being a probably the worst for us russian relations since the end of the cold war. so maybe it was just kind of a kind of a back handed way of demonstrating the displeasure. i obviously with the rest and political lead at the end of the day, nose,

the next president is going to be more or less the same as the current one. go ahead, charge $5.00. i think you're us there. right. be to, i think from the same book by the if it's because his stick has been very good relations with fulton and he will bring this war to an end really within 24 hours because he had very good relations with voted as well. you know, the, your says yeah, i was the toughest on russia that any president has ever been bought them the other hand, you know, put in respect to me and built in uh we gonna is ready to deal with me. so i think built in saying, yeah we, we, we prefer um, hires um hood same and, and either way it did, it does kind of on the cot his is position that these are l i o the, the he, he is the moss, the deal make it we can just sort of wrap things up very quickly, but i think they may is right. it is saying that this has made the case or the

democrats a little farther because they were hoping across all the media. so, you know, with russia and it was still insisting, absolutely combined, that the russians are supporting trial here though they kind of dislike any evidence but not on a risk that is holding trump. so, i mean, i think that we're hoping that the computer will again do something like 26 the and, you know, we, we, we, you know, trump, villa is a very colorful care. it's a, you know, we, you know, use somebody who's very interesting and exciting, but it's, uh no, no, no, you know, in a bite and does the oldest supporters to hit to support hires. and we, we've, we've following biden's lead. it's very, it's probably um, but i do, i do think that, you know, just kind of confused americans. they don't quite know now what to do with. i think trump, i think that way i think they, i'm a that's i confused. i think that's the intent. but me, female again, this may be a read share, but obviously i think it's assume that kamala harris would continue the by the

administration's policy. these would be great and it may be that this is the message that is being sent to the camella harris's president. um, we know what your policy is going to be, and it's very clear how we're going to move forward. that might be kind of best subliminal. what do you think to i think the point is she conducted by, by the, on the brand new office is extremely baker. so it's not acceptable. so uh, i don't think the, anyone in josh can sincerely say, oh uh we, we can predict the, uh, the action. so kind of what i, because we have seen what, what has been going on for 2 years. so we'll want that to continue. no, that's not the message for the rest of the day. but the problem is that the democrats would they have to send it, terry and i told you, you know, for them of the roads, a very clear cost. so if you remember when the trunk a met each and it helps it helps him get in uh, uh,

2018 sooner off because victory. uh, i remember sold the nice to meet and do, and i have to stay. this wasn't the last. what should drunk tell? who can, you know, she should tell we can look through and defeat an american elections. different school is looking for help and seem to win. so basically the message from brown cut to be something like. chris, stop telling you that by one second book helped me when the game serves. don't uh, during the game, you know, those. okay. so uh, of course, drunk was going to say that it's a, it was a big spectrum to say that but, but the media could page in, no, he, i see absolutely has to say this. not anything else. so the same so that we're rapidly running out of time intensive, slightly different here. half a o. c came out and attacked jill sign, adult jill stein and joseph, think we and this is the same time that and kamala harris is, has very weak supports and a lot of the battleground states. here we have rushing

a 3.0. introduce we also have, you know, the attacks on jo stein again of course, another prime one agent here. i mean, this shows, oh, renegade has always been about desperation. but i think you know, that this tactic of boeing after a compromising people some and integrity. this is all very focused right now, and it shows that the, they've been the campaign of jo i as in doing so well. go ahead. george, i think is a, as a right. i think that's what they're doing in the case of a jewel site, and this is an old, true that they've used against the time and time again. um and obviously they are concerned about iris has numbers which are very weak. and it's a way of discrediting the views that the you don't like. so any views that are in favor of peace, any views of the, suggesting that it doesn't make a lot of sense to have uh, to be on a wall like floating with a nuclear or a supervisor or a thing that says that, oh,

you're just repeating booked in stalking points, these a rush of the lines, the level, it's just a way of discrediting, and i think that's why russia gave a 3.0 is, is dangerous as, as previous durations are roughly good. but yeah, if you will describe this credit, think the legitimizing the real serious criticism that it's always useful as a political tool. gentleman, that's all the time we have one to take my guess in budapest, in here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember process was the what, the, this thing of the continental box. oh, send we into around with the rest of the world. we're going to relate to the wind in terms of donations on, in terms of tray assets,

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