presented a job, the hand of an african. it was not uncommon when drying to justify the use of the munition. the calling is to have your date of the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide. you know, late 20 years, the policy of the belgians lead to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocaust. the genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the greenest pages in the history of mankind. the hello and welcome to cross black boulevard design. peter lavelle, russia gate is back with a vengeance. the 3rd season of this delusion has premiered and viewing is mandatory

also with russia again at the center of the current the election cycle. oh, is or should russia? we discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, jordan samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast with the global which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet with bob. it's. he is deputy for an editor uncomfortable sky, a problem that a week or a gentleman cross that grows in effect and these can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated hardwood. so now with george in budapest, the original original russian gate originated in the around the 2016 election. we have the 2nd generation with the 2020 election. and now we have 2024. we have. we're actually gate 3 point. oh, um, i'm fully aware that we could split and parse it and say 20182022 fine. but there are 3 major elements now in play. and like i said, this 3rd season, his premier viewership wasn't too great in the 1st 2 iteration is,

but i guess they found the funds to continue with. joking aside, george, you're not surprised. this is happening, george? no, i'm not surprised. be to because we were over is the expecting this and i was surprised that it was a he came as early as this. this is early september. and so one has to think that there are concerns about the harris campaign and its viability that they have to bring out the big guns. um facility is this, but this is the russian date or if it keeps the period gain of the gain of the game . because the original perpetrators and continuing perpetrators have never been published. there being a hand will be held to account. this will the same people keep coming forward with the same arguments. and as you may have said many times before, the, the, so that's very, very few russians been russia good. and then, you know, the way when we, we have, it was 1st thrown at us about, oh, the russian,

it is very, to figuring in the 2016 election them, they want to get from elected. and then, you know, the more we live with, the more we found out that this was actually a deep state operation in order to discredit trunk in order to set up a fake. as within the trunk campaign, such as carpet page and pull map report and the george basketball players and, and, and then use that in order to destroy a trump in the something's very similar happened to investigate. you want to know that we have the band a claim that all t, as in following a huge amount of money to various in the town give money to, to, but i can tell them in dollars, which is, you know, look, let's fix it. so not an insignificant so, but i do internet influence is but this is just simply a d o j claim. this is being a, this is the claim made by mary garland. lisa monaco, um uh the, the f

b i c i a well the usual characters who are basically a sort of thing. this is the no evidence is presented. and the proof of this is definitely really wanted to present the case. the r t, this listen for the supposedly malevolent the organization is engaged in that information will say, which is what they're saying. then in dyke, i'd say, you know, bring your case, which is, i haven't done that yet. it was very, you know, you know, they, they think of 2 individuals they know perfectly well and then we're going to have to, uh, the take. yeah. spend any time in court with their outside of us. yours extra. it's never going to happen. but they're very careful not to do make the mistake the model i made. if you remember, when do you indicted the coke or management? the cooperation is that once you die, the cooperation cooperation can go in and visit a legal representative. now you have to put up or shut up, you have to present the case, of course,

and i like to be present the case. so they move to dismiss the case. so something similar is happening here. if you, if they really have the evidence of all to you was acting in this malevolent way wage and this information welfare against the united states. then brittany, okay, is bring your bring, bring your evidence of habits. this is, i don't actually, i don't think it's good to go much further than this. the breaking news that we have the last few days a just to make and it's a d, monique r t is banned in the united states. it's banned in the european union. i mean, hard to use the, the, a problem that they don't have to contend with as they define right. rushing media . and it's a potential influence. i mean, we also have the issue of a, it ran a claims that around is influencing the, the, the, the campaign that there was this bizarre story about an assassination plan possibly coming out of ran for. and then we have a real inflow l for an influence like the apec and the is the israeli lobby bass or

nothing off of democratic candidates in primaries, but no, they have to circle back to russian. is it just because it's just something that reflexively people expect? i mean, given the pedigree of russia gate in 2016 in and in 2020 as well. you know, in groceries have a joke. a boss tells you subordinate the support as a says, i want to do the best way. and the boss says, don't do it the best way to do it the usual way, you know, do it as it shouldn't be done, use it. so why you ran, it has been, you know, this is the 3rd election which is dominated by and the steve or russian, natalie. and we have the same card with the same people. i mean, if uh these dollars from the new york times, but what, what is the prices for exposing the uh, between the drum. but ross shed ring the electrical thing despite the fact that the

mall or a, you know, that prosecute that you remind you of him. despite the fact that she specifically said there was no collusion. these people, natalie jones, the price, you know. so why invest anything new? if you, you can do it with impunity again, you know, and if that's what the boss wants, you know, don't do it the best way to do it the usual way and how they do it. you know, let me quote a goober roches efforts mean it was through us and actually more sophisticated then it was the boss cycles. and annoying was us intelligent practitioners, said one of the congress. it could even just go well be on the edge. what revealed by trusted pop, you know, uh there is nothing here. the groups what basically shows that we don't know to show the drug. this will just take it from the sea and i'm so sorry. well, i don't know if they ever will. i thought i'm not sure it's going to go any further . george and d moving. if we keep going back to the dates of 2016, 2020,

and 20. 24. told you the same dates where the democratic gum primary was wrecked. okay, there seems to be a very interesting parallel with democratic politics being rigged and brushing gate . go ahead. say that is absolutely right. event, this is have been the 20162020 of 2024. these are the, the, the, the have a credit ring. the process and then essentially cheated of the vote is out of any a real uh choice. um, but your once i have doing this time is attempting to discredit all of the trunk supports us and by implication of trump himself. so they've done this, you know, and then go right away with this with some of these intellect influences. they're all very right way, which they're not really. and they're all right, comfortable just which is a game or, you know, a mixed bag. and so by implication,

they then want to suggest that the truck trump a somehow involved in all of this. but why i was suggesting that then that there may be, this may be a deep state operation. is that 1st of all, there's a no, a whole lot of money that is splashing around here. um and you and you have to think if, if really they, you know, they, uh, they, they suspect the rough, rough shoes and well, they would have known very, very early on the rush. it was wiring and a great deal of money uh to the united states, but apparently this has been a, this has been going on um for a year, but also this is mazda with the modus operandi, which we knew from pressure gauge. um, and for both of those is originally it is of this with deep stayed operations. nice and just going back to russia gates. uh, 2 point oh women. they, that is the how that turn that around, is that the, this was the ult abiding laptop which they, if the i pad says 2019,

and then use that to go to the, the social media companies. a say, oh, there's a russia operation that is own going, they're going to use you in order to interfere in the election of goes all this a while. we don't, we don't want to be thought of any russia operator. so there was, there was nothing in it, there was, it was, there was, there was a guy in delaware, the computer store owner will have the computer. he gave it to the f. b i rough or bidding appear anywhere. and it was, it was the, the, the, the intelligence ages, security ages that came up with the story that somehow russia was involved. and that's something because that meant the most into that letter assigned by 51, fuller intelligence officials. they hold it so slowly it locks a little russian, i the ration and wonder judge of the $51.00. they go assigned that letter. then with anthony blinking, which was leading the entire effort, i deem it ho ho. russians react to this. i mean,

a rush. you really has an enormous simple and so for me or i can politics, i mean, then how the job i can get elected. if russia can choose, i don't know any sense at all in a rush, those get bored very, very quickly. you'll know. that probably makes us different from, i don't know, some other nations because it's really boring. i mean, it doesn't sell in the media next year. i mean, i would do those and stories every day, you know, a very different from a job, but how in the united states, the present us as being once in the election of this is an old story. i mean people have died here. they were brother, read something about the stalls, about mundane lives, you know, so strangely, it's not the sort of story that is saying, well, yeah. but you know, there's one thing from the sleep, all that fast about the rest of the people that told me, i think this story is going to be the old because they have no facts, you know,

and they both go ahead. so you're wrong. what does he do? it can exist without facts. yeah. of course i just need to get back to before we go to the break here at georgia, i sent you a link to last night and okay, everybody was from 0 head. so, you know, you had, you bet, it'd be want um, but you know, the office of the director of national intelligence claims and i looked at the document. i don't know if it's true or not. there's not observe any foreign influence in the 2024. that's what's going on and the by the administration here, i mean the d o j makes is blame in the office that is actually supposed to be looking at this says the opposite. what do you make of it? and i think that the, they, they have the script already written about the russian and this is, but they haven't, they, haven't, they actually managed to fill in the blanks. i mean, in that document they do bring up a c and the line influence of a t, even though at the beginning of this uh, this

a report. they say that they have seen though is phones of any of foreign affairs of it. the peculiar kind of causing of woods on foreign interference in the congress of the elections. so how can, what do they mean by the conduct of the election? i mean is, and so maybe they then because then they say there's no evidence anyone's interfering in the voting machines in the actual voting process. so it's a confusing um document. you can read it one way or another. so before they, even in the document, they do say that, well, these are really in very dangerous apps. if you have a little hard for the course start gentlemen, i'm going to company and we're going to go to a quick break. and after that break, we'll continue on, especially on some really stay with not to the

russian states. never as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community best, most all sense and up the in the 6595 and speed. what else? suppose question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the state on rochester day, and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on you to the senior citizen. the question, did you say to stephen twist, which is the

same rom, just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support we choose to look so common ground the the welcome back across that bullhorn time peter, they'll hear, we discuss some real news. let me go back to george in budapest, um, there's a different angle to what's been going on, how russia is in the news. and that is something that president vladimir putin said and then he can on the conference. and he bought about stuck traditionally, let's go back to 2016. the epicenter of all of this, russian official them is basically been stand off base about their preferences,

okay. you know, they'll deal with whoever is elected in the is and i'll be rated in january data on and get involved the internal affairs of another country. and we've heard this man from many times, but in a cycle we heard something slightly different. and then, you know, the president was asked bill, you know, the support trump, or, i mean, you know, and, you know, we, we like predictability. we go with the democrats, which can be debated. okay. and sense of buying was crude by his own party, out of the primary we have to kamala harris. and he was asked about, do you support kamala or send, essentially paraphrasing yes. and he also made a comment about her laugh. he did not use the word chuckle, laugh, go ahead, george. what would it have to conclude that the pigeon was having fun at the expense of, um, americans who every 4 years are absolutely obsessed with the russian interference

in the us elections and who the russians prefer to win. but it's a, it's a little a little rascal. maybe is almost as surprising. i mean, the russians were clearly disappointed in trump. in 2016. i think they had great folks on him. they thought he was somebody outside that sort of the foreign policy establishment that they saw him as a business man or pregnant is somebody who, who likes to make deals. and they so somebody that he's just going to abandon the cold war obsessions a, russell phobia and he'd be more interested in making deals with disappointed that trump didn't have the, the strength, but didn't have the ability to overcome the resistance within the government to any improvements. and russian relations and as a result of risk relations, really, really deteriorate to drastically during the trunk is of course they went on to

terry drink on the binding. but nonetheless, so they make their life kind of given up on trump. they have no real expectations that anything much will improve on the trunk. but what was surprising about clinton's comments by things on what he prefers, the democrats, because the democrats are predictable in that. that's not really the history of the cold war. i mean, the phone think so. the good relations and the bad relation to the russia and the united states. well, the was precisely when the democrats were in tyler, then the relations were up. there was another truman. but i mean, the coal really kicked, then we have the berlin crisis. we have the war in korea. and then it goes on the kennedy united states and the soviet union, or was going to war over cuba in on, on the jimmy carter. again, very drastic deterioration of the blank when the united states blake out the the, the moscow olympics. whereas on the republicans,

those will take the heroes of they talk with the 1st real, they don't on the either how the spirit of camp david that because the heyday of the told the on the nixon. and then of course, you have the, the reagan go about, you know, era of the believe 198th is. so it's strange, fruit punch and horrible knows the history. the suggest is how, how will that be? he prefers dealing with the democrats that's not been destroyed. it, but it keeps the way good is goes for that. that's why i'm here in the team. i think that um and this is kind of poking a new baby with the very popular phrase. don't poke the bear, but i mean, i don't know what the americans are, but they're being poked right now. and i think it's in a, in a very kind of jocular way. i mean, like i said, if you're going to drag, i send you this selection again against our will. we'll comment on it. it's reverse psychology, i think. oh, i think, oh, who did it was not joining. she was said, your eyes situation because it's in deep funny. it's a yeah, sure. it's dangerous,

but it's also fine. and so for uh, i mean, uh the i dual and you, which is now guiding. i'm afraid the budget is to tell you, tell me any of this size is predictable. what it does make it good. so uh, fortune understood that the democrats would expect him, you know, to support the trial to industrial. that would be a huge hold on for that front agent. and she didn't give them that, that both, you know, if you pretend that was pretending to be uh before, uh, kind of effects. again, uh the story about the sides of, uh, russian american relations. uh, they are very much like to all statistics, you know, for the believers, they mean everything, you know for the mobility was they don't mean anything. some people, including, for example, they spell you can of can brush it. uh they, they, uh, they partially re withdraw it on your trip to say, you know, of the democrats,

your reasons for bad the problems bed or they're also all the cycles, usually in the beginning or in your presidential term. they're always holds on both sides. so relations, but road usually bought in the beginning of carpet ministration. right. you know, uh, obviously docs and be just there were bad things out against the inmates. in moscow . they were the relatively good in the beginning, all a bomb administration. they were also used to handle a bump. ringback a demon on the why the, you know, there was a gleam, so a whole good. remember that some it didn't do new york. so yeah, a game bar that also wanted to repeat the same directory and he repeated it by the, in a disaster. so you know, tragic weight now the relation so dangerous. get that or so. yeah, i don't know whether you guys have decided you all would do. it was not, it was not full of fun. it's kind of my practice personally, you know,

but the tragedy is not in her. you know, the tragedies in the old you guys do many of it all but also team a. i agree with the one principal, but george trump reported, but he is very offended by the bodies endorsement. and i think that given what you just said, george is kind of returning the favor. we have might be, we had some hopes for you, but you ended up being a, probably the worse for us restoral relations since the end of the cold war. so maybe it was just kind of a kind of a back handed way of demonstrating the displeasure. i obviously with the rest and political lead at the end of the day, nose, the next president is going to be more or less the same as the current one. go ahead, charge $5.00. i think you're us the right. be to, i think from the same foot by the it because his stake has been that way and very good relations with fulton. and he will bring this war to an

end reading within 24 hours because he had very good relations with both. and i said, well i, you know, the yours is yeah, i was the toughest on russia that any president has ever been. but on the other hand, you know, put in respect to me and built in when it's ready to deal with me. so i think built in saying, yeah we, we, we prefer um, hire as hood. same and as any other way it did, it does kind of on the caught his is position that he's so that he is the most, the deal maker who can just sort of wrap things up very quickly. but i think they may is right in saying that then this, this has made the case of the democrats a little farther because they were hoping, and of course, all the media. so, you know, with the frustrated that it was still insisting absolute in buying it. but the russians are supporting trial here though they kind of dislike any evidence but not on a risk that's it is holding trump. so i think i think that we're hoping that the computer

will again, do something like 2060 and, you know, we, we, we, you know, trump the laser very colorful carrots the, you know, we, you know, use somebody who's very interesting and exciting, but it's, uh no no, no, you know, in a binding the still, the support has to hit to support hires and we, we've, we've following biden's lead. it's very, it's probably um, but i do, i do think that, you know, just kind of confused america. they don't quite know. now what to do with i think trump, i think that way i think they, i'm a, that's a confuse. i think that's the intent. but me, female. again, this may be a read share, but obviously i think it's assume that kamala harris would continue the by the ministrations policy visa be ukraine, and it may be that is the message that is being sent to the camella harris's president. um, we know what your policy is going to be and it's very clear how we're going to move forward. that might be kind of best subliminal. what do you think to oh,

i think the policy that that by, by the, on the brand new office is extremely dangerous and its not acceptable. so uh, i don't think the 81 and drugs can sincerely say, oh, uh we, we can predict the, uh, the action. so kind of what i, because we have seen what, what has been going on for 2 years. so will love that to continue to know that that's not the message for rush, but with the appropriate ways that the democrats with their facilitator and i told you, you know, for them of the roads, a very clear car. so uh you remember when uh, a trunk a met each other in house in co sync it in, um, uh, 2018 sooner off because victory. uh, i remember sold the base to median. do, and i have to say this was that the loss would, should drop down. okay. you know, she should so we can look through the fee and american elections usual just looking for help in seem to in so basically the message from brown cut to be something like,

chris stopped telling you that by one second book helped me when the game serves i don't uh, during the game you know, those. okay. so uh of course trump was going to say that that gets upset. it was, it served to expect trump to say that both, but the media care page in no he, i see absolutely has to say this. not anything else. so the same so that we're rapidly running out of time. do slightly different here it will. c came out and attack deal side adult, and you'll stein and you'll stick with it. this is the same time that and kamala harris is, has very weak supports and a lot of the battleground states. here we have rushing a 3.0. introduce we also have, you know, the attacks on joe stein again of course, another gramlin agent here. i mean, this shows, oh, renegade, has always been about desperation. but i think you know, that this tactic of boeing after a compromising people's a and integrity. this is all very focused right now, and it shows that the,

the bid the campaign of jo i as in doing so well, go ahead. george. did i think is a, as a right. i think that's what they're doing in the case of a jo site, and this is an old, true that they've used against the time and sign it again. um, and obviously they are concerned about the harrises numbers which are very weak. and it's a way of discrediting the views that uh, that you don't like. so any views that are in favor of peace, any views of the, suggesting that it doesn't make a lot of sense to have uh, to be on a wall like floating with a nuclear silver. a thing that says that, oh, you're just with beacon built in stalking points. these are russia fed lines 11 level. it's just a way of discrediting, and i think that's why russia gave a 3.0 is, is dangerous as, as previous durations are roughly good. but yeah, if you will describe this credit, think the legitimizing the real serious criticism that it's always useful as

a political tool. gentleman, that's all the time we have one to take my guess in budapest, in here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember the process was the more expensive and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different by little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do the have the state department to see i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do, don't want my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the wayne state.

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