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led by the nazis in order to extra pay, the peoples of europe the we know how to do the thing they've been living with this situation since the negative that the india would leave with a 2 months to reduce and all that is not willing to cite a sion of etc alterations the damage itself was this, the other one published the kind of problem and it typical project. we have luck from russia. i mean, that wouldn't have come from any with is just directly, you know, really a job do it personally. and i think that is the source of great satisfaction for the to hello and welcome my name is on. if i'm kid,

if they come to the show better for the next hoffman odd or we will be talking all the things in the part of the very special guest is a form of northern army commander, known for it as distinguished service and expertise in military strategy. and national security, they come left and under the been the thing already. thank you. so why. so why the way it over here, so also on a to be talking to you left in a general depend to seeing who is a highly decorated former indian army officer with a career spanning 40 years he served as the northern army come on to from 2014 to 2016, overseeing the 2016 surgical strikes and practiced on other key military operations, particularly in jumbo and kashmir. he's also served in the united nation submission in ethiopia and eritrea. after retiring, he contributed significantly, shaping indian national security strategy by leading a congress appointed task force to develop a comprehensive security doctrine in 2019. so i grew up with the

amazing patriotic feelings. wonderful. and then what i see, and i mean off is that i feel like that'd be good. i was born after the 2 years of independence. do you see the same fashion for army and now among the common people? yeah, that is sort of yeah, that'd be yeah. if you, if you actually look at the way that it goldman drive, these are out of handling the numbers of people who come up, the kind of enthusiasm that is add to the find them and, and the 4th is, and i think over the years, what has not weakened is this, you know, the see, pause, pride in uniform, the desire to do well. so, i mean, these are, these are the shows that really, i think you, but i mean, really consistent then very good. i it isn't even for more device selector to india and so colored was, it was amazing. so, so bad. so when you go for the train, the way to do, do you finish reading? so i, it was exactly 16 year old when i joined the national defense,

i graduate and i, they moved right on the phone, but i was 60 years old. i mean, almost all of my life as being in uniform. and you would, you would also not the 1st person from the armed forces in your family, in my family, i was my father was in the army, my little brother was in the army. so this leg goes out of natural progression that utilize you hold so that the guy in the hour, but did you want to do something else? or you were happy to be here, you know, just just out of school and then straight into it. and the, and i saw the near the g might it's yes, it is amazing. it's unbelievable. it means a made elective. huh. so the, the, to a 2500 people get. it's sitting this straight, 1st of all, uh i, i usually use a lot of humor in my speeches, but to do it like that. so often the whole thing about to come on, you said it was a successful lecture. i said there was no reaction. you said nobody sleep, nobody slept. yeah, i think this takes me through all the major to success. that's amazing. how

successful and support are 40 or draining the t as in t, as in india, and then we do one year that i've made them. so i thought it was raining, redeem is for you as a new one in june can for the very, very important period of us knows how, how i just want to understand in a, in a situation that when you have to deal with people who are the enemies of the country and you have to strategize. what goes, what is the one point that goes on in your mind? so basically, i think, you know, that is i and you have a clear objective in the military that you have some listed to me. and i think that's remain so for most of all your planning my what do you, objective is very objective as to bring these finish out there to them and you're going this way then all your actions. i did that accordingly with that, with that single minded focus and object and not a good reason on the application has it really helped us with that. it does do

elaborate all sorts, as you know, whilst it was, have significant to be really significantly come down. i think the narrative that the india were delivered to constitutions which really wasn't possible within the state. you mind have youngest me, you having a separate constitution and a separate constitution for the country. some separateness tendencies that dental is because of this different constitutional arrangements. i think all of that has all that, all that is now gone and then there's some people who sort of we are in a free country. people have a of opinion about everything. but what do you personally feel when somebody criticizes me in the country? look, you know, you obviously, you obviously sort of feel bad about that. what i think we have professional enough to understand that, you know, as long as you keep doing and you all properly. but that's anyway i spent on. so i went to the list on nice, that's i personally sometimes you for you. hi. i mean i,

i was responsible for planning the so i did go strikes. yes. i remember. and later, you know, there was some questions raised. i still did it actually happened reddick? yeah. i'm politicians. yeah. so the position seems to be the new, the new really bad. but as i said, i just do it really uh, you know, do your job, do it professionally. and i think that is a source of great satisfaction for you. you've spoken to you how to against politicizing, military operations, what kind of damage do you think it closes people in size, they shut off with a tree, operations, the damage it sort of causes this. the other one, if i still have them, when you start sort of taking decisions based on what your thing is for the degree correct, rather then on what should be professionally the right way to go. which is, i think i understood universally among the many trees and which is why they keep themselves away from politics. and that did good motivator to obtain, start settled, impacting your professional approach. i mean we, i mean together professional opinions to the political leadership that sometimes

gets invited if you have any visibility shows out of political leading. and what is the role of media in integrating to the media today and particularly the, the social media. and you know how it is, lots of misinformation this information. but again, as i said, as uh, as professionals, i'm just, i'm show it as, as you will do it and the okay. yeah, is try instead of a detach yourself a little bit and try and sort of seek the truth. not always easy, but that's how it is i. so did you think that to be a control on it and not for sure to control on it, that has to be some regulation of the social media? i mean, you just can't relate to carry on the way it is and then some people talk about freedom of expression though there is. so i'm lines. i'm not saying we should apply . i'm don't know. i'm with you. i have yes, definitely. i believe that what you're saying is absolutely some, some, some sense of regulation, telemundo regulation. and i think the social media platforms are also understanding

that because their platforms are also being misused by a lot of people. me. and so i think some regulation does have nice to meet required . do you think india is still in the pots of non alignment? so uh, i think we have framed it differently at all. and we are saying it's pretty easy. good on to me that we will do things which i did not invest in actual interest. and we are not going to get aligned or become allies with one part of it. and, and you'll see that because it is growing tires when the us i'm growing tired also with the restaurant because we feel that whatever actions we take, if you have to buy a new supplies from russia party now moved, i've seen a nation in this and we will do it. so that's the sort of thought which we have been following. and really i think is, is right though some people say just a little sort of new on stuff put on to what's going on and like mendota. yeah. talk to who do you, you've created for this balance on the credit has to go to the leadership and the

people that they have. and we have a very small and you know that my understanding foreign minister and he's being in diplomacy for all his life and so that he, i typically the way he a position in the stands and the way he's able to be able to explain it. oh, i think we have a, we have a, we have a good fight. i'm going to stay here today. we, we, we do a lot of, uh, we have a lot of budget for roger defense forces and my new to do that. it's a required thing because we are surrounded by us. some people look at you look at the what your challenges, i was to go to the challenges. so you have focused on on one side which since independence has shown affility towards india. and we fought 3 plus one for the wifes i was playing with them. we have now a much larger, stronger neighbor in china. which since 2020, you know,

has been sort of attempting to use military caution on an unsettled load up. and then you haven't done and say go to the shows your mortgage way, the northeast. and so they just had a requirement of adequate forces to be able to deal with these challenges. and that automatically translates into a defense budget. that for me to feel no need to sort of have a i'm going to tell the size but also a quickbook properly. so that is capable of meeting and challenges. i'm undecided you can strikes when people by saying that they actually happened on the did not happen. um, this is my 1st time to get upset there. why wasn't it sort of toner, the faces of those people who was saying it that this is so? so let me tell you, i mean, frankly, when these things started coming out, i was personally of the opinion that we had videos. we had big chest which

subsequently when we leased by the government, i think after, after almost 10 years. so we did bibles a little bit at that time was that we should put these out so that any, you know, the track tubs and people who are saying hasn't happened, not only, not only from outside, would even focused on say, yeah, do going forward. i mean expos now, i didn't say nothing has happened at all. nobody has come. so i, i, anyway it, but you know that go to the decision that the government look at that time, not releasing though they did it later. but as i said, my personal opinion was it could have been done. i knew in june giving this to a patient as to is this. yeah. so i was the, i'll be going to that. right? yeah, i know that i said, i want to ask you so many questions about the board. all of that there's the planning, the whole the planning for the subject of the site was done in my headquarters. it would be. yeah. and we would responsible for that. and how much time did it take to the planet? so actually the planning started off to give us a little brief about. yeah,

so the trigger for the surgical side was the back on the what he got as an accident . and the bag, i'll know the guy this and the base on the 18th of september. and i think very quickly of the political leadership, military leadership, we all got together and decided that we need to respond to this. and we need to respond strongly. we cannot just put them to fight and say when say we will do anything in auto in tennessee. we go down to the previous government and none men going to yeah. and then what happened? yeah. that we had to go across and strike in camps with children focused on that issue. so that decision that they said was operating on the operation, went in on the night of the 28th. so within 10 days, we had planned, selected the people i launched them across and it was into a single operation. so i know there's a lawyer which is the made of. yeah. so if you chose one thing that nobody can actually went across and multiple places. okay, yeah, starting from across the movies into across catch me. so we had on the same night

we launched 5 populations and how much time did it take to complete these operations? so we went in, so it was at night we started just after it became climate labor. you at that time i wasn't much and as i was in the head board, the board room was on the, you know, yeah, it was, it was called an operations room and we were getting the, the feed from the lady then your own. we just up in the me that for you to is coming to my headquarters, we are watching. couldn't really see what to do because i was when you're watching . so we went in the and by about 7 in the morning, everybody was back. so it was, it was a night operation lit up, i think like we did not name it at all. ok. see we've already gone to is about to go to t and that the information about this or not leak out. just a handful of people in y headquarter also knew what i mean. not really what they didn't know about it. and so we decided deliberately not to give with the name of other people. so i don't your name then to rice what it is. and you wouldn't gloss

in touch with the parameters to do it up. and i will start blissfully in touch with the prime minister. that was, i say you need any yeah, they need the chief of all me stuff. okay. yeah, because i was in with them for okay. let's see for the for why we start with the navy. right. and yeah, he was, he was briefing that ridiculously and lot of the rest of the countries are not really very happy about either too much. like you to do your best and some countries want us to be always submissive and not so brilliant because i think this all see, you know, care in august on i 2 countries knew that. um, they sometimes feel that, you know, data behavior is the responsible and could lead into a much larger sort of conflict. we know how to do a pain via being living with this situation since independent and side to that is a great deal of maturity. and when we carry out the end,

we have the civilization. yeah. all not the means if you see this, so yeah, sometimes it's really, really angry with me and that does nodes and things like that. and they all, they sort of condescendingly, yeah. behaved to address that. i know you what i, what i think it, you know, uh we have clearly stated that the lot we will lose in our national interest and also the country has progress. why's looking the 5th largest economy in the was i think that is a growing state chap politically, diplomatically, economically. so i don't think got, you know, those boss pains and people who look down on, you would say whether this country of the button as well. even so i love the you as a single entity. i think those times i don't know a very, very calm the same thing. it's i think i'm sure it's or the peter of you is

that you have it and you how i mean people also automatically choose the right words it's it sort of impresses me and baffles me on. so there's not a single word which is which is the lose i have to think about a 1000 and thing don't. maybe i'm given my dialogue and i said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to live to live that yes, exactly. oh, i have live 545. yeah. yeah, that's yeah, i didn't have, i just had a strong military bond. how important and it's relationship. i bought it in the rush of relationship with north neil. i think it's, it has a long history behind it. there's a great deal of consistency in how russia has come to india as age when requires, i mean, 71 war for example. you had the kind of military equity fund that we had bought from russia, for example, new case of marines that they lead us. i mean the article thing wouldn't have come from anybody else. and so there is

a great deal of history behind the dye. what are the reason of this morning? me? is there any particular this? as i said, as i said, it's because the have sort of created us with a great deal of majority. they have looked at our national interest a number of cases where in the security council resolution that said, they have come to i hope there was a tree deal friendship in 1971. so in the american, uh, yeah, across carrier sale in uh into the there's a male thing on the sort of pressure that of the us. and then we will finding the bottom of this for me. it was, it was that i sions who sort of came to headphones had a we are there, so don't get, don't get pressure. i is by, by the us. so i'm think there is such a long history of, of post eyes. the fact that they have looked after the national interest,

which is why today you'll see in the i had sort of refused to try clicking them rush, actually doing that. you can watch. we have continued to pick out either do supplies and military equipment from them. and what is the make in india program done for pilots ministry? let me, let me put it this way. today we are the largest arms importer in the world. mm. okay. and yeah, and the other biggest sounds important in the world of accounting for almost 10 percent of global arms and boards. and if you want to be an industrial and scientific power this and i'm willing to follow this situation obviously is not good. and so we need to develop, i don't indigenous, capable of that enough time you suddenly get on google or defense industrial base from the ground up within india. but the policies that they have put in place, the processes that they have within place that slowly the villain does an ice and be able to produce ad on um sending copeland i think is an oak sending and it should have uh will it happen quickly? um, maybe not,

but the project and direction is optional to share. so i'm saying in the next 5 success you will see a strong enough defense industrial base and, and i think it's an excellent initiative by the government. they are completely telemundo bush and you've said that citizens that often for water and in the national security now to do what do you mean by that? see i, i go to a national security strategy and one pillar of died was predicting on people. the point i'm making is not shown securities, not merely about it. it's important to predict about us to make sure i think those figured is good. but ultimately, as the citizens of this country and, and why i am saying of protecting their it is because you have, it shows like the jobs you have, it shows like environment, time of change, how it is going to impact uh, organization is going to take place but i'm going to move from your knowledge is when it goes to towns,

how would you provide them the set of facilities that they need this also. so i think they should follow me in and to group out of how we look at our national security, which is why i said they don't. people also must be in the hospital 5 the scores and discussions on, on national security. yeah, that's i do me, vincent, but also it is even the detritus attacks the country. right. the decreased completely and there was a into them thing. i've said, yeah, so this is the political build things do? absolutely. i think you have the credit in this galvan for the approach that they have taken against terrorism within the country. and that's why it is focused on his concern that you know, we need to read off on this. and i think it's, it's working. as you said, the number of 10 of the setbacks within the country has reduced all the way they were happening all over the country. not only and double encourage me. yeah. even

within the on where they find that for that has. so the pressure, i think that the government has applied politically diplomatically in international circles. and the fact that there is somebody they must to use military force against bach. hassan, you don't of the n t take some more risk. and i think that that policy is succeeding. this is my personal personalized question. before that we finish, it's shot them. and the do, the condensation has happened, june or not this, we are in that time the biopics i made a on army generals and the kind of book that you have done if you're biopic was to be made. or if you write to not the bag of that for you, let me put it like that. what would you call it? the book that you write about your life if you ever taught. oh, that's the that's a difficult question. uh, what would i call a good i see a lot of jr. army officers,

i mean done those. i think the mom was now i already have and you have a very distinguished video and um for so i have and i, i don't know. so being with on or something like that, that is what i would say. okay. yeah, any particular actor you have in mind to apply to the 2nd you either you either you or the rest of us if there's quite a few our readings or when is that a viral one but for me as well. excellent. that's amazing. thank you. thank you. left engineer to defend the single got thank you so much for that and thank you for watching join me next week. as we uncolored a new lead and yet another debate and let's talk about it. i'm one of them. kids could buy the there is no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym,

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